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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 00 08:36:11 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: The Liberty Group (TLG) in Congress-who they are! (fwd)
On Sep 18, josiebass@zxmail.com wrote:
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July 4, 2000
Dear friend of liberty,
Our liberty is being taken.
During my six terms as a U.S. congressman and during my years as a husband,
father, grandfather and practicing physician, I have seen our liberty being
taken, year after year, by our national government - elected officials and
career bureaucrats alike.
We are numbered at birth, educated by the state and seduced with the promis=
e
of cradle-to-grave care by the nanny state in exchange for our liberty. We
are allowed to keep only a portion of our earnings during our working years=
.
When we die, our property is divvied up - government first, families last.
As parents, we are told how to raise our children by so-called government
experts. As business owners, we are told how to run our business by
bureaucrats who have never had to meet a payroll. We are told day by day
that we, the people, get our rights from government instead of government
getting its limited authority from the consent of the governed. We are
considered subjects of the state instead of the state being subject to us.
I am sorry and dismayed that our liberty is indeed being taken. Regret and
disappointment, however, are not the same as surrender. We are not
surrendering - we are fighting back.
Who are we?
We are 16 members of Congress who have formed The Liberty Group (TLG). TLG
is a caucus, which I have organized, for the benefit of members of Congress
who want to explore a strict-constitutional approach to legislation and who
want the most compelling and relevant data available with which to take a
position for or against legislation based on constitutional principle. TLG
will initiate its own constitutionally-sound legislative agenda.
We are thousands of people throughout our country who have come together to
join The Liberty Committee. TLC is a nationwide, grassroots organization
which steadfastly supports legislation that defends and advances our libert=
y
and tirelessly opposes legislation that destroys our liberty.
A small group of men proclaimed in 1776 that =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6all men are =
endowed by=20
their
Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty
and the pursuit of happiness=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D and went on to become victor=
ious against=20
one
of the world=E2=80=99s great empires. Now, in 1999, a small group of men a=
nd women
have renewed that treasured proclamation and are determined to be victoriou=
s.
Please join us.
For liberty,
Ron Paul
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tp://
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weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 00 08:35:09 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: Into the belly of the beast: A report on the MMM convention (fwd)
Generate enough fear and you can controll people; Even those not direvtly
involved.....
On Sep 19, Jim Zoes wrote:
[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------]
[From Talk.politics.guns. Note that the founder of MADD, another
organization dedicated to eviscerating the Bill of Rights -- the 5th
Amendment in this case -- is a prominent leader of this group as well.]
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From: Dr. Michael S. Brown
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: [fwd] An interesting look at the MMM
Organization: Second Amendment Advocates of SW Washington
Reply-To: rkba2000@egroups.com
Message-ID: <0modssgkm2a9a61j0jakkar8hnkbok4kho@4ax.com>
Missouri Chapter
Second Amendment Sisters' inc.
NEWSLETTER
~~~********************************~~~
Greetings Everyone,
The following is an excellent read. Bob Glass is the editor for TRT..
If you've never heard of Rob Noel before...he's a radio talk show host
AND a founder/member of the colorado TRT aka Tyranny Response Team.
Here's the TRT website http://www.trteam.com/
and Rob Noel's Personal Site
http://www.eaglesup.com/
NOTE:MMM have been told to NOT (HA HA!) get into constitutional
debates..
Sincerely,
Kim
Missouri Coordinator
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Thoughts on the Million Mom March Convention in Denver
Exclusive to The Partisan by Bob Glass
The first Million Mom March National Convention took place at the
Hyatt Regency Hotel, in Denver Colorado on Friday September 15th and
Saturday, September 16th.. What we saw and what we learned , opened
our eyes wide, to the enormous threat that we are facing from those
who would trash the Bill Of Rights and take away our guns, in the name
of "protecting the children".
There were aspects of this gathering, that reinforced already-held
beliefs and suspicions about the Million Mom March and its agenda, and
we discovered new things that came as a complete surprise. Following
the cardinal rule of warfare, which is "know thy enemy", we had
members of the Tyranny Response Team pose as Million Mom wannabees,
and had them register for both days of the meeting.
We wanted to have a lot of people infiltrate their meeting, because as
we checked their schedule prior to the meeting itself, we learned that
they would break the main body of attendees (about 350) into separate
workshops and seminars. We wanted to be able to tape and take notes of
all of the various seminars, but because they ran five seminars
concurrently, we had to decide which ones were the most important.
They were charging $100. per head to attend the convention, and in
addition to the fact, that the notion of giving these Fascists even a
dime was repugnant, our finances are severely limited. Thusly, we had
to settle for only two. The idea was, that if one of our women got
into trouble, there would be someone else there to run interference
for her, or at the very least, give us a call and tell us what was
happening. This may sound a bit melodramatic, for if one or both of
our ladies got caught, the very worst that could have happened, is
that they would have been asked to leave. These women were showing a
lot of courage, and a little back-up never hurts.
The seminar attendees were given periodic breaks for meals and free
time, and as we had rooms in the hotel, we were able to meet with our
women periodically and debrief them, on what was going on.
There were moments, when each of them didn't want to continue. Their
emotions ran from fear to shock, to disgust, to outrage. They both
were afraid, that they would not be able to control themselves, and
might begin screaming and ranting at these women, they so
affectionately named, the "Commie Mommies.
They turned out to be real troopers, however, and each of them stayed
the course and played their role perfectly through the very end. They
even joked about how many new "friends they made, and who they
expected to get e-mail and phone calls from. Quite frankly, these
fine, courageous women of the TRT, who volunteered to do this thing,
ended up with some very strong conflicting emotions. Despite the fact
that the MMM convention reaffirmed how great a threat these statists
pose to our liberty, on a personal note, they took a strong liking to
many of the women, and felt a strange sense of betrayal, ingratiating
themselves to them, under such false pretenses. In addition, they felt
that even though these women are being utterly deceived and
manipulated by tyrants and power brokers, the women themselves, are
for the most part, well-intentioned ladies and the TRT women had
ambivalent feelings about gathering information about them, that
ultimately will be used to defeat them.
Having said, all that, the process of debriefing these gals, turned
into more of an emotional roller coaster, than any of us could
have foreseen. The main point that they both stressed from their two
day experience, was that the MMM is much better funded,
organized, motivated and connected, than any of us had imagined. The
sheer volume of literature that we collected would tend to confirm
this. The brochures were slick and very professionally done. Some of
them were in color and printed on heavy glossy paper.
They covered a wide variety of subjects including all aspects of the
gun control debate and every facet of fund raising, organizing,
dealing with the press, legal concerns, security matters, and more.
One of the things that our ladies found particularly worrisome is the
emphasis that the MMM are placing on our youth. Clearly a
disproportionate amount of their efforts are aimed at our young
people. Donna Dees Thomases, much to our surprise, was not
the center of attention. Despite her impressive credentials as a press
representative for CBS News and two Democratic Louisiana Senators,
Thomases was a nervous, pudgy middle-aged woman, who looked strangely
out of place in her ill-fitting blue jeans.
It appeared that Rebecca Brown, the very same Rebecca Brown who
founded MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Drivers), supplied both the
spiritual energy and certainly the lobbying experience and expertise
at their convention. She appeared quite tired, however and was noticed
taking Advil at the banquet. In a back handed compliment to the TRT,
she said that the MMM would make it a priority to "shame the TRT, in
the same way that MADD shamed drunk divers. Good luck, Becky. We
learned that the MMM is rolling in dough. They received a million
dollars from the Packard foundation and a staggering five million from
the Emma Goldman foundation, and a million dollars from.., not to
mention all of the ten and twenty dollar checks and cash that must be
flooding their post office boxes. They had to have raised about
$35,000. from the convention alone.
They had three professional video camera crews filming every facet of
their convention, as well as a still photographer who they contracted
independently. Their security man is a retired Secret Service agent
(much more on him to come soon), who in his brash arrogance, stressed
the point in his seminar on security to "know your enemy". I suppose
we were just following his advice.
The rest of his talk was classic threat assessment kind of stuff.
Despite the fact that they maintain a non-partisan political makeup,
in the end, the MMM clearly and enthusiastically endorsed the
candidacy of Al Gore"what a surprise. What truly was a surprise, is
that many of the Million Moms casually admitted that their husbands
owned guns, and in a few instances, so did they.
The leadership bent over backwards to emphasize and re-emphasize the
fact that the MMM does not want to confiscate all guns. They did
however, admit that certain actions taken in California, did result
in the banning and confiscation of a number of guns labeled as
"assault rifles". They claim to simply want to outlaw what they call
"junk guns" and "assault rifles". They want gun owners to be federally
licensed, photographed, finger printed and regulated. They want
federal legislation, because of how easy it is for people to cross
state lines and buy guns in states with more liberal laws than their
own. This point in particular, was driven home by women from
Westchester, New York, who also noted how different the gun culture
was in Colorado than in their home state.
Despite their reasons for federal legislation, they are somewhat
inexplicably focusing on state lobbying efforts. Clearly the majority
of the seminars, as well as the literature given to all attendees was
geared for organizing and lobbying on a state level. In private
conversations, there were some women who confessed to wanting
an end to all private gun ownership, but astonishingly enough, most of
the women favored strict control, licensing and regulation, as opposed
to outright prohibition and confiscation.
It is interesting to note, that in their talking points, they made it
clear that the Second Amendment, was to be skirted, or better
yet, ignored altogether in debate. They advised the Million Moms to
veer away from Constitutional arguments, and drive home
the point that gun violence is a social issue, and like cancer is a
social disease, which we as a society must deal with collectively.
It is therefore not too surprising that a disproportionate number of
attendees were in the health care profession, from nurses, trauma
counselors, psychologists and so on. They emphasized that the
term "well regulated" in the Second Amendment didn't mean well
stocked (as we know it did, from a myriad of sources) but rather, it
meant well controlled by the government, which is what they claim
gives them license to enact their entire agenda, and encourage their
flock to fall back on, when challenged by pro gun rights people. What
seemed to have an ironic sense of justice to it, is the fact that many
of the Million Moms were victims of their own propaganda. They were
busy making jokes about the TRT, how we must have eaten lead paint as
children, and our parents are related by blood, and we are the
products of inbreeding and a shallow gene pool and all of the other
mindless, evasive humor they love to belittle their opponents with.
They truly believe that we are red neck Neanderthal types, truly
incapable of reason, articulation and cognitive reasoning.
The majority of them are physically afraid of us, and a story was told
about how some Million Moms in Kentucky were intimidated by some
people they described as NRA militia types, menacingly patting their
hips. It was quite evident throughout the weekend, as we walked
through the hotel with our TRT T shirts on, that all the Million Moms
who saw us, were physically intimidated. In once case, a Commie
Mommie, who was waiting for an elevator refused to go inside, when one
of our guys got in, wearing his T-shirt. He held the door for her, but
she shook her head and said condescendingly, that she would just a
soon wait for the next one.
Towards the end of the seminar, they gave time tables for how long
they estimated it would take them to achieve their three main
objectives, of national registration, federal licensing and the
outlawing of "junk guns and "assault rifles. They said that they felt
six to eight years was realistic, with an outside chance of four
years, if a few things went their way. One of the things that was
repeated over and over, was how the media ate up everything that they
did, and how cooperative and sympathetic the media was in all of their
events and press conferences. Motherhood and protecting children is a
great glove to put over the fist of tyranny that is about to smash the
last vestige of the Second Amendment.
What the women both mysteriously said, was that by the end of the two
days, they both felt "brainwashed. I was perplexed and a little
frightened by what they meant by that, and asked each one, if they had
doubts, or second thoughts about the stand of the TRT. They both
emphatically said "No, but that they felt like they had come out of a
Tony Robbins seminar, or an Amway seminar, or an other cult like
atmosphere. They said that the Million Moms left the seminar
completely psyched and ready to do battle. Perhaps this is all in
preparation for yet another sequel to The Stepford Wives.
All of their media people, lobbyists, speakers, organizers,
photographers, are seasoned professionals. They literally have the
very best that money can buy. They are stacked with folks who have
worked in many, many liberal causes and campaigns and take many years
of experience with them to the political arena. The Million Mom March
is anything but a grass roots group of angry housewives and mothers,
wanting to protect the children.
The Million Mom March is a very well organized, extremely well-funded,
professionally coached and directed group that is not about to go away
any time soon. They make great efforts to stack the deck with a
Republican here, and a gun owner there, but there is no question that
the rank and file of the MMM consists of the liberal wing of the
Democratic Party, and despite specific protestations from Donna Dees
Thomases to the contrary, there is little question in my mind, that
the Million Mom March's agenda is being carefully orchestrated from
the DNC (Democratic National Committee), if not the White House,
itself.
We are up against a formidable foe, indeed. This is no collection of
naïve, Alice in Wonderland, women with Tie died T-shirts and granny
glasses, tip toeing through the tulips. This is a professional,
seasoned, well-oiled political machine, that is connected to the
highest echelons of power, and has an apparently inexhaustible source
of funding. In addition, the Million Mom March can tap into a deep
well of easily emotionally swayed women foot soldiers, who are
enthusiastically prepared to do their bidding for them.
They are playing to a very sympathetic, if not complicitous media,
having their strings of motherhood and maternal concern, pulled by the
best politicos and lobbyists that money can buy. The Million Mom March
is opening new chapters around the country faster than Starbucks. The
right of the American people to keep and bear arms is under the
greatest assault since the birth of this nation. Under the guise of
motherhood and protecting the children, those who want to destroy the
Second Amendment and our way of life, have found the perfect useful
idiots to wage their war for them. Those of us who make fun of, or
belittle the Million Mom March, do so at our own risk. Their leaders
know how to manipulate the media, lobby the politicians, and
assassinate the character of their opposition. They learned their
trade, after all from the master, Bill Clinton. I don't know what else
I can say, to prod those of us who cherish our freedom, to get off our
ass and take notice of what is going on. Our ladies went straight into
the belly of the beast, and stared directly into the face of evil.
Just seeing the expressions on their faces, as they poured out the
details of their two day adventure, made my blood run cold. This is
for real,folks. They have no intention of giving up. We will have
further detailed reports on the Million Mom convention shortly.
The time for complacency is over
Editor
Bob Glass
Dr. Michael S. Brown - Director
Second Amendment Advocates of SW Washington
(360) 574-2675
rkba2000@home.com
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RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA!
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An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 00 16:40:23 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: Re: URGENT!! Pro-sovereignty Bill before Congress (fwd)
On Sep 20, Charles C. Carter wrote:
[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------]
> From: Norval Hardy [mailto:nlhardy@compuserve.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 7:04 AM
> To: Able 1
> Subject: URGENT!!
>
> FROM: INTERNET:DLewis6118@aol.com
> DATE: 9/20/00 2:54 AM
>
> Re: URGENT!!
>
> ====================================================
>
> The following alert is from From the American Policy Center
> Tom DeWeese, President
>
> American Policy Center
> 13873 Park Center Road
> Herndon, VA 20171
> 703-925-0881
> FAX: 703-925-0991
> apc@americanpolicy.org
>
> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> < > <>
>
> September 18, 2000
>
> Action Alert! Action Alert!
>
> ***Pro-Sovereignty Bill Needs Your Immediate Action!
>
> One of the biggest pro-sovereignty and private property rights bills in
> recent history will be voted on in the Senate Energy and Natural
> Resources
> Committee on Wednesday, September 20. The American Land Sovereignty
> Protection Act (S.510) would protect
>
> national sovereignty and private property rights by requiring
> congressional
>
> approval before United States land can be declared a U.N. Biosphere
> Reserve
>
> or World Heritage Site.
>
> Currently, over 51 million acres of U.S. land have been designated U.N.
> Biosphere Reserves and World Heritage Sites-WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL
> APPROVAL!!!
>
> Congress MUST be given the power to prevent the U.N. from inflicting any
> more
> pain and suffering on U.S. landowners.
>
> Through its Biosphere Reserves and Heritage Sites, the United Nations
> has
> been successful in kicking property owners off their land, stifling the
> mining industry and crippling timber companies.
>
> SINCE WHEN DOES THE U.N. HAVE MORE OF A SAY IN UNITED STATES LAND POLICY
> THAN
> U.S. LAND OWNERS?!
>
> The following Senators in the Energy Committee are straddling the fence,
> and
> have not committed to supporting this vital piece of pro-sovereignty
> legislation. They are:
>
> Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL): (202) 224-2854
> Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA): (202) 224-5824
> Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-NM): (202) 224-5521
> Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND): (202) 224-2551
>
> If we don't pass S. 510 before the October 6 recess-WE WILL HAVE TO
> START
> ALL
> OVER AGAIN IN THE NEXT CONGRESS!!
>
> **Action to Take
>
> 1. Call the members of the Energy Committee listed above, ESPECIALLY
> SEN.
> FITZGERALD, and urge them to support the "American Land Sovereignty
> Protection Act."
>
> 2. It is also urgent that you CALL BOTH OF YOUR SENATORS and demand
> that
> they cosponsor S. 510. Also, urge them to ask Sen. Majority Leader
> Trent
> Lott to bring S. 510 to the floor for a vote before Congress adjourns on
> October 6. Capitol Hill Switchb
>
> oard: (202) 224-3121. (Simply ask for your Senator by name)
>
> ***PLEASE SEND TO AT LEAST FIVE MORE PEOPLE***
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RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA!
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An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 00 16:38:50 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: Another day in eternity (fwd)
On Sep 21, John S wrote:
[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------]
This one came from another list, but has a special mening for us Floridians.
:) The rest of youse might enjoy it too.
JohnS.
Faith is a VERB! (So get busy and DO something!)
> Castro Goes to Heaven
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> Fidel Castro dies and goes to heaven. When he gets there, St. Peter
> tells him that he is not on the list and that no way, no how, does
> he belong in heaven. Fidel must go to hell.
>
> So Fidel goes to hell where Satan gives him a hearty welcome and
> tells him to make himself at home.
>
> Then Fidel notices that he left his luggage in heaven and tells
> Satan, who says, "No hay problemo. I'll send a couple of little
> devils to get your stuff."
>
> When the little devils get to heaven they find the gates are locked
> - St. Peter is having lunch - and they start debating what to do.
> Finally one comes up with the idea that they should go over the wall
> and get the luggage.
>
> As they are climbing the wall, two little angels see them, and one
> angel says to the other, "Geez! Fidel hasn't been in hell ten
> minutes and we're already getting refugees!"
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RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA!
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An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 00 20:24:29 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: The Coming UN Gun Ban (fwd)
On Sep 21, Archibald Bard wrote:
[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------]
Archibald Bard
Pro Libertate - For Freedom
ICQ 83834746
Get US Out of the United Nations!
http://www.jbs.org/un/
BUCHANAN-Reform
http://www.buchananreform.com/default.asp
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From: "The Republican"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 2:29 PM
Subject: The Coming UN Gun Ban
> The Coming UN Gun Ban
>
> FrontPageMagazine.com
> September 19, 2000
>
>
> http://www.frontpagemag.com/archives/gun_rights/metaksa09-19-00.htm
>
> HOW MANY AMERICANS living in America read the International Herald
Tribune?
> My guess is not many and even fewer gun-owning citizens. Yet, on January
> 26th of this year an article authored by Mark Malloch Brown and Janyantha
> Dhanapala was required reading for American gun owners and those who
> believe in our national sovereignty. The point of view they expressed will
> surely affect Americans' Second Amendment rights in the years to come.
>
> The title of the article was, "Let's Go Out Into the World and Gather Up
> Small Arms." The authors are both employees of the United Nations. Mark
> Malloch Brown is the administrator of the United Nations Development
> Program and Janyantha Dhanapala is the UN undersecretary-general for
> disarmament affairs: two influential people prominent in the global gun
ban
> movement.
>
> The article tells the story of how the UN Department for Disarmament
> Affairs visited Gramsh, Albania to "help broker an agreement by which
> community services would be delivered in proportion to the volume of arms
> and ammunition turned in." In other words until the citizens of Gramsh
> turned in their firearms, medical services and other essential services
> would be withheld by the great humanitarian organization, the United
> Nations.
>
> Brown and Dhanapala call for, among other items, destroying surplus,
> confiscated or collected small arms, legislation to monitor, trace, and
> police legal arms transfers, and international guidelines for tracing
> weapons and ammunition through serial numbers and transit guidelines.
>
> If anyone thinks that Brown and Dhanapala are just whistling in the wind,
> they better think again. Next year the UN is convening its first
> international conference on the "illicit" trade in small arms and light
> weapons - a watershed event. As I mentioned in my last week's article on
> FrontPageMagazine.com, ("Global Gun Grab," 9/13/00) the United Nations has
> been slowly and steadily working towards this international conference
> since 1995.
>
> A very large group of non-governmental organizations (NGO) are supporting
> these UN employees and diplomats in their effort to ban guns across the
> globe. Most of these organizations have worked in the disarmament movement
> for years and learned their political lessons in the successful effort to
> get a United Nations treaty that bans land mines. Although the United
> States has yet to ratify the land mine treaty, most of the other nations
> are signatories.
>
> Most of these NGOs get their funding from organizations, foundations, and
> other groups that would be considered politically to the extreme left of
> center. They are a cohesive group which has been meeting together
regularly
> for years and have developed a well-connected and well-funded network,
> which tends to meet most often in conjunction with UN workshops on
> disarmament and small arms at various venues.
>
> Additionally, there is a US small arms working group (USSAWG), which
> includes such anti-firearms notables as Michael Bears of the Coalition to
> Stop Gun Violence, Tamar Gabelnick of the left-wing Federation of American
> Scientists, and Natalie Goldring or some other designee of the British
> American Security Information Council (BASIC). I have copies of notes from
> several meetings of the USSAWG detailing the incestuous relationship these
> groups have not only with UN personnel, but also with national government
> officials across the globe.
>
> The anti-firearms NGO's and other informal groups are supported by
> governments such as Canada, Belgium, and Japan. For example, according to
> the notes a meeting of the USSAWG was held in Canada "with support from
the
> Canadian Ministry of Foreign Affairs." A BASIC press briefing held in
> Washington featured Joost Hiltermann, an Organization of American States
> (OAS) official and the South African Ambassador.
>
> According to meeting notes of a June 1998 meeting of these groups, the UN
> Group of Governmental Experts on Small Arms "requested a meeting with a
> number of NGOs to discuss the next stage of the process." The meeting was
> held at the Quaker United Nations Office and representatives from BASIC,
> Federation of American Scientists, and Center for Defense Information
> attended. Although the National Rifle Association's Institute for
> Legislative Action (NRA/ILA) was an accredited NGO, all requests for a
> meeting with the UN Group had been denied.
>
> It is evident that even as early as 1998 the US NGO anti-firearms
community
> was hard at work drafting strategy to include more and more like-minded
> organizations in their push for global gun control. They were making
> overtures to the World Council of Churches, the Arias Foundation, Human
> Rights Watch, and Amnesty International and inviting their representatives
> to meet and discuss tactics.
>
> This careful planning behind closed doors had an ultimate goal: the
> creation of a huge umbrella group to coordinate the international global
> gun-control efforts in support of the UN conference in 2001. The leading
> anti-firearms and peace operatives across the globe met in Brussels,
> Belgium in October 1998 to develop the ground work, an international
> network with leadership and staff dedicated to this one issue: elimination
> of the private ownership of small arms across the globe. Maybe we all
> should read the International Herald Tribune - our rights are in the
> balance.
>
>
>
> Tanya K. Metaksa is the former executive director of the National Rifle
> Association's Institute for Legislative Action. She is the author of Safe,
> Not Sorry, a self-protection manual, published in 1997. She has appeared
on
> numerous talk and interview shows such as "Crossfire," the "Today" show,
> "Nightline," "This Week with David Brinkley" and the "McNeil-Lehrer Hour,"
> among others.
>
>
>
> [Forwarded For Information Purposes Only - Not
> Necessarily Endorsed By The Sender - A.K. Pritchard]
>
> ------------------------------
>
> A.K. Pritchard
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> "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm
> only those who are neither inclined nor determined
> to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who
> have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of
> humanity...will respect the less important and arbitrary
> ones... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted
> and better for the assailants, they serve rather to
> encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed
> man may be attacked with greater confidence than an
> armed man."
>
> Cesare Beccaria's "On Crimes and Punishment", 1764,
>
> translated by Jefferson and copied into his "Commonplace
> Book" of great quotations.
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 00 12:47:26 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: What is Citizens Of America? (fwd)
On Sep 22, Weldon Clark wrote:
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What is Citizens Of America?
In Sierra Times by editorial staff
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Editor's Note by Weldon Clark If you're going to VOTE this November, you may as well register to get a nice PRIZE for doing so. Check this out. Register to vote on line by printing out a form and mailing it.
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/ leads to http://www.fec.gov./votregis/vr.htm Or go to www.NRAILA.org then click on onlinedemocracy.com and follow prompts.
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In a recent article titled "My Southern Vision", SierraTimes.com editor J.J. Johnson stated, "The [news/mass communications] media has always been a first- strike weapon of governments with a lust for more power.
Other conservative movements (both past and present) can testify to this." The founders of Citizens Of America couldn't agree more. COA is a California tax exempt non-profit corporation that is running a national pro-gun rights, pro-self defense media ca
"If you're an average citizen, you've never seen or heard anything like our ads," says COA president Brian Puckett. "We go for the emotional jugular first, and follow with an appeal to reason." A good example is their radio ad called 911 Hell.
"On the surface, COA ads are about the right to own and carry guns," Puckett continues, "but the underlying messages are issues that seize everyone's attention, no matter what their political inclination - the right to self-defense, the impossibility of r
selfishness of politicians elevating their own lives above the lives of other citizens."
COA ads are intended for the general public. "We don't preach to the choir by putting ads in gun magazines, we don't give money to elected politicians to keep supporting the Constitution, we don't hire lobbyists to plead with any public officials to obey
COA believes that even if the ads don't completely convince voters that guns are good, they can still effectively alter the political equation, "Basically, our ads can help move guns off voters' and politicians' radar screen. For a closer look at this str
Even though COA isn't yet a year old, and has yet to take in even a fraction of the funds that established gun rights organizations bring in, they have an impressive track record. Their ads have run in 43 states on well over 300 radio stations. The ads ar
hosts continue to run the ads free of charge as public service announcements. The publisher of one multi-state outdoor news tabloid, Vilcom Outdoor News, has voluntarily run COA print ads in several issues.
"Anyone can download our publication-ready print ads or our broadcast-quality MP3 ads right off the internet and use them. In fact many radio stations have done just that, and we've found out later that they ran the ads as PSA's. Of course some radio stat
Individual gun rights activists across the country raise funds locally to run COA radio or print ads in their own area, usually with a further infusion of funds from COA itself. "This is extremely helpful, as we can't possibly raise enough money at this p
towns for ads, so they get active and do it themselves."
Aside from citizens donating anywhere from $2 to $1,000,COA has received public relations support from a number of individuals and organizations since it's creation eleven months ago, including Guns and Ammo Magazine; Jon Dougherty and Geoff Metcalf, Worl
funding at this time - though we hope to in the future."
This lack of big-bucks funding has kept COA true to its original goal of efficiency. "We run a lean, mean organization," Puckett says. "Donated office space, a small, dedicated board of directors, subcontractors for production and administrative work, don
mainly internet-based, and have no plans to get into costly snail mail fundraising from individuals. People who want to donate to this national campaign can go to our homepage and scroll to the bottom, where they can donate by credit card or other interne
Puckett concludes, "We'd like to have millions of dollars available to turn the tide of public opinion, which we think is absolutely possible. But everything we've done so far has been accomplished on less than NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre'
months. We're very proud of that." (Editor's Note by Weldon Clark COA is doing public pro-gun ads NRA is not doing. The comparison with the Executive Vice President's salary is presented to show the relative scale of the two efforts. We need to support
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WHAT IS CITIZENS OF AMERICA?
COA is a non-profit organization that is running a NATIONAL PRO-GUN MEDIA CAMPAIGN that reaches ALL Americans, not just gun owners. Read the last section of this email for more information.
AND NOW THE NEWS:
**** COA ads CONTINUE to run as frequent public service announcements on WYDE 850AM, Birmingham, Alabama with heavy play throughout morning drive by Alabama's most popular morning AM team, Russ & Dee Fine.
**** We are gearing up to run RADIO and/or PRINT ads in ATLANTA, GA, and WASHINGTON DC. Both have large populations of our Black brothers and sisters. We'd love for them to hear this ad:
I'm No Slave, RealPlayer: http://www.citizensofamerica.org/Imnoslave.ram
I'm No Slave, MP3: http://www.citizensofamerica.org/Imnoslave.m3u
If you like the idea of our ads running in the nation's capital -- then SUPPORT US! Go to the homepage and scroll to the bottom: http://www.citizensofamerica.org
**** We are also about to run a heavy PRINT and RADIO ad campaign in the San Francisco Bay/Silicon Valley area. This huge concentration of Americans, many quite affluent, VOTE. We need to remind them forcefully of why they should support pro-self-defense
**** The COA radio ad campaign on the most powerful FM radio station in the U.S. -- KRUZ in Santa Barbara, California, which covers a 180-mile stretch of the central CA coast -- continues for the next few weeks. But we don't have as many ads on the air a
college votes -- so we need more people voting PRO-SELF DEFENSE this November. Help us get the word out by supporting COA.
COA IN THE NEWS
**** An article on Citizens Of America that appeared in the internet news source SIERRA TIMES (show above) can be read at: http://www.sierratimes.com/psabp082300.htm
**** An article on the current NRA management, written by COA president Brian Puckett, appears on the gun rights super website www.KeepAndBearArms.com. It can be read at:
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=468
**** HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: An article on computer programmers and engineers (which prominently mentions San Jose, CA COA Coordinator Michael Pelletier) can be read on the website DigitalMass.com at:
http://www.digitalmass.com/news/daily/08/28/geeks_with_guns.html
ITEMS OF INTEREST TO GUN OWNERS
**** Want to continue keeping up with the latest news and articles from the most comprehensive gun rights website? Then SUPPORT the organization that provides them: SUBSCRIBE to KeepAndBearArms.com -- it's $30 for the
year, and worth every penny. This site has the best, most thought-provoking gun rights articles on the net. http://www.keepandbeararms.com/President/
**** Sierra Times, one of the most popular internet NEWS sites, gives you news of interest to those interested in freedom issues, Constitutional issues, and gun rights issues - - among other things. Check them out and sign on for their free news service:
**** Have any LIBERAL or ANTI-GUN FEMALE friends?
Send them to this site. The short, clear homepage presentation alone is worth the visit. http://www.geocities.com/customsites4you/NoMoreGunContr
olMain.htm
REMINDERS
**** We have raised the minimum COA donation to receive a
FREE Springbok Kydex holster to $100. Check out the
Springbok offer -- and other such offers:
http://www.citizensofamerica.org/programs.htm
FINAL REMARK FROM COA CREATIVE DIRECTOR JIM HOUCK
"I am much more afraid of living under the rule of a man than I am of picking up my rifle and going to war for the Second Amendment." --Jim Houck, armed American, Founder, Creative Director, Citizens of America Citizensofamerica.org
WHAT IS CITIZENS OF AMERICA?
COA is a non-profit organization that is running a NATIONAL PRO-GUN MEDIA CAMPAIGN that reaches ALL Americans, not just gun owners. Read the last section of this email for more information.
With elections approaching, we need to get the PRO-GUN message out to ALL Americans. LEARN more, SEE and HEAR our ads at http://www.citizensofamerica.org
COA is funded solely by your donations -- which we are constantly SPENDING. We run an efficient organization -- everything COA has accomplished in the last eleven months (as recorded in our series of COA NEWS AND UPDATES, and see our station play list at
http://www.citizensofamerica.org/medialist.htm ) -- has been done on less than FIVE MONTHS' WORTH of NRA executive vice-president Wayne LaPierre's reported PERSONAL salary.
COA needs your CONTINUED SUPPORT. To understand
the political effect we can have, finish reading this update and then read "What Good Are COA Ads?": http://www.citizensofamerica.org/whatgood.htm
Donate to COA via credit card, check, money order, PayPal, or e-Gold by scrolling to the bottom of our homepage: http://www.citizensofamerica.org
Or send checks to:
Citizens Of America, Inc.
2118 Wilshire Blvd. #447
Santa Monica CA 90403
COA is a California non-profit public benefit corporation. Donations to COA are NOT tax-deductible.
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RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA!
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An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!
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