From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #435 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Wednesday, March 21 2001 Volume 02 : Number 435 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:57:21 -0500 From: "Chad Leigh, Pengar Enterprises, Inc & Shire.Net LLC" Subject: not to blow my own horn But, I typed my name in alta vista and looked at what came up. Here is something I wrote in 1996 that bears reading again: http://civic.net/civic-values.archive/199603/msg00284.html regards Chad Pengar Enterprises, Inc. and Shire.Net LLC Web and Macintosh Consulting -- full service web hosting Chad Leigh chad@pengar.com chad@shire.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 01 09:42:11 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Warning for Americans (fwd) On Mar 14, josie bass wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >http://www.eaglesup.com/warning.html > > A Warning for Americans: A Message from a South African > >People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the >Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so >did pornography and the gay* rights movement). > >Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western >world, for events in America reveals trends chillingly similar to those that >destroyed our country. > >America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your >free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore >politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the world operates. But >the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is >horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character. > >Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting >fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing >your Congressman -- that is what you know, and what you are comfortable >with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep >your country on track and to ensure political accountability. > >But woe to you if -- or more likely, when -- the rules change. White >Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to >challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of >the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with >the new rules of the game -- violence, mob riots, intimidation through >accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, >and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to >bludgeon treasure and power from the haves -- Americans, like others before >them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence >and ultimately their way of life. > >That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there >and I saw it happen. > >Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the sheer >terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African Nationa > >l Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to >achieve "peace." >Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are builders and >planners. But what we got was peace of the grave for our society. > >The Third World is different -- different peoples with different pasts and >different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the psychology of the >Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe are perfect examples >of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe -- >once thriving, stable Rhodesia -- is looting the very people (the white men) >who feed the country. Yet Westerners do not admit that the same kind of >savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type >assert themselves. The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World >exploitation of the Western conscience of compassion. > >Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and its >leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and savage >place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western politicians now >have a similar problem on their own doorsteps: the demand for power and >treasure from the non-Western peoples inside the realm. > >It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough >people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of >the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians >who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them a few more votes, a >few more days of peace. > >White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa >for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet >ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very >different from you. > >We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad (not >least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism," >and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many >Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his >belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your neighbor" philosophy -- >none of which are part of the Third World's history. > >The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western influence >throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's tyrants were >yesterday's mission-school proteges. Many dictators in Africa were men of >the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would deflect criticism and >obsfucate their real aims, which had nothing whatever to do with the >"brotherhood of man." > >Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled by the >whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After receiving the >best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust against their >benefactors. > > >From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will capitulate >just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They don't want to >quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They >like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise and be nice. > >A television program aired in South Africa showed a town meeting in Southern >California where people met to complain about falling standards in the >schools. Whites who politely spoke at the meeting clearly resented the >influx of Mexican immigrants into their community. When a handful of >Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted and waved their hands at them, the >whites simply shrunk back into their seats rather than tell the noisemakers >to shut up. They didn't want to quarrel. > >In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws. But >what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by court >rulings -- as in Zimbabwe? What will happen when the courts are filled with >their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition 187 has >already been overturned. > >What will you do when the future nonwhite majority decides to change the >names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer want to >use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white "racists" and slave >owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying the Confederate flag? What >about the national anthem? Your official language? > >Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first >targets were our national symbols. > >In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now >experiencing -- invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the decline in >health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the banishment of >your history from the education of the young; the revolutionization of your >justice system. > >In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murders end up in jail. Court >dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear. Magistrates can be >bribed as can the prison authorities, making escapes commonplace. Vehicle >and airplane licenses are regularly purchased, and forged school and >university certificates are routine. > >What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your neighbor's >backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that litter your >suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of witchcraft, in which >the parts of young girls and boys are needed for "medicinal" purposes? How >do you react to the burning of witches? > >Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today. > >Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in the >till will be punished. Excuses -- like the need to overcome generations of >white racism -- will be found to exonerate the guilty. > >In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial >solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites. When Ian >Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world, white South >African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring him to surrender. > >When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents, ignores >unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and siphons off >millions from the state treasury for himself and his friend, South Africa's >new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and declares his support. That just >happened a few weeks ago. > >Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In South >Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds such as old >age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply abandoned. > >What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either >destroyed from without, or transformed from within, used to suit the goals >of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror, as in Zimbabwe >today, or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain, or buy votes. Once power >is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or devotion to principle >from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the most surprising and tragic >components of the disaster in South Africa is how many previously anti-ANC >whites simply moved to the other side. > >Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting >it back again. > >Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot fight >terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You cannot fight >accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot appeal to the >goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises you for your >weakness and hacks off the arms and legs of his political opponents. >To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to people >from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting >only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail. > >Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They >care not for the high-minded ideals of Jefferson and Washington, and your >Constitution. What they want are your possessions, your power, and your >status. > >And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights >activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight >for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your >Christian charity, and your good will. > >They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses >well. >They know what to do. >Do you? > > >______________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, write to SLACenter-unsubscribe@listbot.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:27:45 -0500 From: "Chad Leigh, Pengar Enterprises, Inc & Shire.Net LLC" Subject: another old but good article My brother posted this in 1995. (For Utah folks concerns BYU). Worth reading http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Firearms/Essays/No%20Logic%20in%20Gun%20Control Pengar Enterprises, Inc. and Shire.Net LLC Web and Macintosh Consulting -- full service web hosting Chad Leigh chad@pengar.com chad@shire.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 01 16:45:18 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Clinton Land Grabs Will Stand - Unless You Act Now!!!!! (fwd) On Mar 15, Swftl@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Subj: APC Sledgehammer Alert! Date: 03/14/2001 4:22:53 PM Eastern Standard Time From: apcalert@americanpolicy.org (APCalert) To: apcalert@americanpolicy.org *********Sledgehammer********* ACTION ALERT www.americanpolicy.org >From the American Policy Center Tom DeWeese, President American Policy Center 13873 Park Center Road Herndon, VA 20171 703-925-0881 FAX: 703-925-0991 apc@americanpolicy.org March 14, 2001 Action Alert! Action Alert! ***CLINTON=E2=80=99S LAND GRABS WILL STAND=E2=80=94UNLESS YOU ACT NOW! Secretary of the Interior, Gale Norton, has said that Clinton=E2=80=99s las= t-second monument designations will stand because there has been no outcry from property rights advocates. In fact, the American Policy Center has receive= d word from a White House insider that property rights advocates are going to be rolled on the monuments issue unless the White House and Gale Norton hea= r from the grassroots in a major way=E2=80=94NOW! The greens have a massive = effort underway to pressure the White House to make certain that Clinton=E2=80=99s monuments stand. You simply must make your calls! Call NOW! Call EARLY! Call OFTEN! These land grabs must be reversed. These monuments shut the American publi= c out of their land. Permanently! These monuments kill local industries, seal off valuable natural resources, cripple whole towns, and rape private property rights. But Gale Norton and others won=E2=80=99t act unless they = are pressured from property rights advocates. As of today, we are failing in our efforts. You must make the two phone calls below. If you don=E2=80=99t, the adminis= tration will not act=E2=80=94plain and simple. We will be handing the radical environmentalists a victory. A VICTORY THAT THEY DON=E2=80=99T DESERVE! If you care about the rapid decline of property rights in America, it is imperative that you follow the =E2=80=9CAction to Take=E2=80=9D below. If = not, the greens will set the agenda for the Bush administration=E2=80=94starting with the p= ermanent designations of the Clinton Monuments! **Action to Take 1. Call the White House and urge President Bush to REVERSE the Clinton National Monuments. Explain that the monuments shut us out of our land! Also, let the President know that the monuments devastate local industries. White House phone number: (202) 456-1414. 2. Call Secretary of the Interior, Gale Norton, and urge her to repeal the Clinton Monuments for the reasons stated above. Sec. Norton=E2=80=99s phon= e number: (202) 208-7351. ***PLEASE SEND TO AT LEAST FIVE MORE PEOPLE*** [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:50:34 -0600 From: linzellr@datastar.net (Robert Linzell) Subject: [Fwd: ALERT: Medical Privacy] - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ALERT: Medical Privacy Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:00:23 -0500 From: "The Liberty Committee" Reply-To: "The Liberty Committee" To: "Liberty Activist" March 15, 2001 Dear liberty activist, High-paid lobbyists and special-interest groups are working feverishly to make us live by their rules; their definition of privacy. Only in Washington do words loose their meaning and, often times, start to mean the exact opposite. The so-called "medical privacy rule" recently adopted by the federal government gives us less privacy - not more. This new, 367-page-tiny-print regulation actually gives us less access and control of our own medical records while giving federal, state, and local governmental agencies - including law enforcement and research organizations, along with insurance companies, HMOs, drug companies, marketing companies and others - greater access and more control of our personal medical records. It's now time for average citizens to have their say. H. J. Res. 38 - "The Medical Privacy Protection Resolution" was submitted this morning by Congressman Ron Paul, a practicing physician for over 30 years. Dr. Paul's resolution, if passed and signed into law, would repeal the Department of Health and Human Services so-called "medical privacy rule." The resolution will be considered under the Congressional Review Act of 1996 that allows Congress to repeal a federal agency's regulation on an expedited basis. Please urge your U.S. representative to cosponsor H. J. Res. 38 today. Remember, the regulation is scheduled to go into effect next month - April 14th. Click the following link to send your message: http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/alert/?alertid=17514&type=CO . You may add your own comments to the suggested message. Please act today as you did twice last year when you helped stop the "unique health identifier" mandated by H.I.P.A.A. Now we need stop this 367-page invasion of our personal medical records. H. J. Res. 38 will do it, but only with quick action by you and your representative. Take action now. Go to http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/alert/?alertid=17514&type=CO . If you want more details about this issue, read "The Final Medical Privacy Rule: Myths and Facts" by Institute for Health Freedom. http://www.forhealthfreedom.org/Publications/Privacy/MedPrivFacts.html Please forward this message to a few friends. Kent Snyder The Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org - -- Bob in Mississippi - State Motto: Virtute et Armis ("By Valor and Arms") My PGP Public Key(s): RKBA! - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 01 16:14:12 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: SRA - IL News: Illinois State Rifle Assoc. Report. (fwd) On Mar 17, Brad3000 wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FYI - Via GONJ. In case anyone hasn't read it yet. ISRA: RULING WILL ALLOW CHICAGO TO REGISTER GUN OWNERS LIVING IN ALL 50 STATES CONTACT: Richard Pearson, President, Illinois State Rifle Association, (815) 635-3198 Web Site: http://www.isra.org CHICAGO, March 9, 2001 - - The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA): The ISRA is condemning a recent federal court action as a serious threat to the privacy of law-abiding gun owners. On March 8, 2001, U.S. District Court Judge George Lindberg ordered the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) to release federal gun purchase records to lawyers for the city of City of Chicago. The records in question consist of "multiple purchase" forms filled out when one person legally purchases more than one handgun during a 5-day period from a single federally licensed dealer. Lawyers for the City of Chicago demanded the release of the records to support a lawsuit against gun manufacturers. In that lawsuit, Chicago contends that firearm manufacturers encourage Chicago residents to commit crime by "flooding" the city with handguns. The BATF opposed release of the information out of privacy concerns. The ISRA considers the records release an invasion of the privacy of persons who lawfully acquired handguns that were subject to the multiple purchase reporting requirements. Making the judge's decision even more troubling is the fact that gun purchase records from all 50 states will now be handed over to Chicago's attorneys. Given Mayor Daley's attitude about gun owners, there is no guarantee that the records will remain confidential and certainly no guarantee that Daley will not commence a campaign of harassment against persons whose names appear on the released records. "We're not talking about criminals buying guns here," commented ISRA president Richard Pearson. "We're talking about people who passed background checks and adhered to all federal and local laws. Thanks to Judge Lindberg's decision, their names, addresses, phone numbers, and other sensitive information will now be turned over to individuals and organizations openly hostile to the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms." "Let's not forget Mayor Daley's declaration that, if it were up to him, nobody would own guns," continued Pearson. "The actions of Daley and his associates over the past few years have made it clear that they will gladly skirt Congress to impose Chicago-style gun control nationwide. Judge Lindberg's decision flings opens the back door to nationwide gun registration something Congress has wisely refused to institute. If Judge Lindberg's decision isn't overturned, gun owners from Duluth to Daytona, from Boston to Bakersfield, can rest assured that someone deep in the bowels of Chicago City Hall will soon be keying their names into Daley's registry of American gun owners." The ISRA is currently considering legal options to halt the records release. ****** The ISRA is the state's leading advocate of safe, lawful, and responsible firearm ownership. For nearly a century, the ISRA has represented the interests of over 1.5million law-abiding Illinois firearm owners. ****** IN-10\A0\30-08 * * * * * * I S R A Information Notice No.01009 * * * * * * Capitol Commentary By Todd Vandermyde March 9, 2001 - Right to Carry Advances & Preemption bill goes to full house for a vote. Another week of activity at the capitol as both sides started to line up their agenda. The week started off with the Senate Judiciary sub-committee on crime meeting and discussing a couple of gun bills. SB-256 which would define any gun show as if it were 2 or more people gathered to sell guns, and require all gun shows to conduct background checks on all firearms transfers was defeated. Shortly there after, SB-139, one handgun per month was brought up. Senator Cullerton opened with a short statement and the Chairman then allowed us to present our comments, asking us to keep it brief, as it was almost 6:00PM. Feeling a little under the weather, and having sat through almost 4 hours of law debates so far, we explained that it somehow seemed un-American that the government takes 30% of our income as it stands right now, and now Senator Cullerton seemed to want to dictate to us how we would spend the rest of the 70% of our income the government so graciously allows us to keep. The bill was defeated. The Senate is off next week and will return the week of the 20th. It appears that there will be a move to try and run the Senate version of the Daley package that week in committee. Having started off on a good note, Wednesday had us before the House Judiciary Civil Law Committee. The first bill was HB-906. This bill would require the notification the state police and local law enforce- ment of all persons who attempt to purchase a firearm without a FOID card. The bill came out of committee with an agreement for the sponsor to hold the bill until we can re-write the bill and address our concerns. The next bill up was HB-1789. This bill would allow for criminal charges against the person who sells a gun if the gun is used in a crime within one year. The term is "vicarious liability". Most law school students spend weeks debating the subject. It usually deals with the fact of should the get-a-way car driver be charged with murder, if the bank robbers kills someone during the hold up? In this instance, if you fail to withhold the delivery of a firearm by one hour, 23 instead of 24 hours for a rifle or shotgun, and then the person goes out 350 days later and kills someone with the gun you sold them, you can be charged with murder and face life in jail. If you fail to keep a written record as required under the FOID card act, a class A misdemeanor, you could then be facing a class x felony and 25 years at Stateville. The bill passed out of Committee by one vote when Rep. Jay Hoffman voted with the anti-gun Chicago democrats. Hoffman, a down-state democrat, has been a supporter of Illinois gun owners but for some reason decided to toss the other side a bone. Looks like we got our first floor fight ready. Thursday brought a little different atmosphere. As we headed to the Judiciary Criminal Committee. There our bills were pending in the sub-committee on firearms. With four of five members present, our bills were called. HB-403 - Jones, J, would preempt home rule units of local government from banning or regulating rifles and shotguns in any way beyond those restrictions in 24-3.1 of the deadly weapons code. Passed 4-0. HB-542 - Righter, would require every municipality to forward any and all ordinances pertaining to firearms to the State Police and require the State Police to publish a complied list of those ordinances. Passed 4-0. HB-414 - Reitz, would prohibit any unit of local government from registering firearms or their owners. Passed 4-0. HB-401 - Brunsvold, the right to carry bill was discussed and debated for about 10 minutes before being voted out 5 to 0. While our opponents continue to wring their hands over access to firearms and people running amuck killing each other if this bill should pass, the committee clearly saw through the rhetoric. As we kept our remarks short, to the point and to the contents of the bill, we fielded questions from committee members refuting the assertions espoused by ICHV. Normally, sub-committees are used to kill bills off. But this committee was made up of pro-gun legislators, it seemed that things were a little different. Then we got to pop a little surprise on the anti-gun crew and the city of Chicago. HB-482 started off being a preemption bill for all firearms. Late Wednesday, we filed an amendment and the committee accepted it. The amendment did two things. One was to move the preemption clause out of the FOID card act and put it in the deadly weapons act under 24-3.1. The preemption clause was also for concurrent preemption. Meaning that the municipalities could regulate firearms, but only as described in 24-3.1. They could duplicate state law, but not go past it. They could prohibit felons, drug addicts and the like from possessing guns, but that's all. The real kicker for the amendment came with a new act to license gun dealers. Unlike Daley's bill, this amendment mirrors the federal license requirements and rules. It does not contain the warrantless searches, registration and the other goofy stuff Daley has tried to hide in his bill behind the cloak of "licensing gun dealers". So this puts a bunch of anti- gun types in a trick bag. They can vote for licensing gun dealers - our way, and thus give us preemption. Or they can vote against the bill, and suffer all the public criticism about how they voted against licensing gun dealers. The same thing the Dems pulled on republicans last fall. Many of our suburban supporters who took it on the chin in the last election for voting against Daley's package, will be able to hold out a vote for licensing gun dealers, all the while voting for preemption. The City did not get a chance to see the amendment before hand, and while still opposed to it, got caught with their pants down. The anti-gunners and a few others are going to have a bunch of explaining to do as they will have to argue against the licensing of gun dealers. It should prove to be interesting as we hopefully will have them caught in the switches. They will be forced to argue or at least have to explain why they feel the need for warrantless searches, registration and the other hidden dirty tricks they have attempted to pass under the guise of licensing gun dealers. Next week we will have the show down over the Daley gun bills. Rep. Hoffman remains the key player in this. If he stays on the committee, we should be able to kill the bills. If they replace him, the bills will be headed to the floor for a fight. Later next week we should also see the Right to Carry bill come out of committee along with the rest of the pro-gun bills in the Jud 2 committee. The senate is out next week, so we get a bit if a rest. If you have time, come by the capitol this week. We have been warned that the Jud 1 committee may meet twice so no one knows when the bills will be called, whether it would be Wednesday morning or another time. But if you happen to have some time and want to come down and fill out witness slips, feel free. We are usually in the caferia in the Stratton Building around 7:00. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:40:06 -0600 From: linzellr@datastar.net (Robert Linzell) Subject: [Fwd: Claremont Institute Precepts: Introducing FoundingFather.com] - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Claremont Institute Precepts: Introducing FoundingFather.com Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:10:09 -0800 From: precepts@claremont.org To: linzellr@datastar.net The Claremont Institute--PRECEPTS | | March 19, 2001 Visit | | No. 266 Claremont Institute Precepts: Introducing FoundingFather.com America's Founders believed that limited, constitutional government, and the free society it gives rise to, demands the highest kind of civic education and civic virtue among its citizens. We agree. Unfortunately, civic education today is in a state of decline. Our educational establishments are dominated by the doctrines of modern philosophy -- doctrines that rest upon the assumption that there is no such thing as an objective moral truth. The reigning educational wisdom is that there are only moral preferences or prejudices, or what we sometimes call moral "values." What is right or wrong depends entirely on where or when one lives, the color of one's skin, one's sex or sexual habits, or the amount of money one earns. Our schools no longer teach truth or goodness, because they no longer believe in such things. This can be seen most visibly in the failure of schools to teach young Americans about the principles of their own country. And this represents nothing less than an educational crisis, and in particular a crisis of civic education. In light of this crisis, studies in statesmanship might be the thing most needful today. By examining the heights of human greatness -- demonstrated in men such as George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Winston Churchill -- students and citizens might get a glimpse of that human potential they might not otherwise have realized on their own. And by reflecting on that human potential, students and citizens will likely learn something about human nature, and about themselves. The Claremont Institute has produced a new multimedia website to meet this need. Foundingfather.com is dedicated to the life and lessons of our first president, George Washington. It teaches Washington not merely as a historical figure, but more importantly as a man of great character. In this way, Foundingfather.com illustrates the indissoluble union between civic virtue and self government. 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Users can also listen to Hillsdale College President, and former Claremont Institute President, Larry Arnn explain the significance of certain key events throughout Washington's life. * The Washington Collection: The Gilder-Lehrman Collection, in cooperation with the Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History, has provided the Claremont Institute with documents and images from the American Founding period. Users can view digitized images of various artifacts from the American Founding, and read the text of original documents related to the life of George Washington. * Search Engine: All sections of the site can be searched with a powerful search engine, making Foundingfather.com a useful research tool for students and scholars. According to an ancient maxim, the noblest duty of the statesman is to teach. We at the Claremont Institute are not statesmen. We cannot teach as statesmen do. But we can do the next best thing -- we can teach about statesmanship. And there is no better way to understand statesmanship than to understand America's first statesman, the Father of this great nation, George Washington. We encourage you to visit the site today, located at www.foundingfather.com. - -------- Bob in Mississippi - State Motto: Virtute et Armis ("By Valor and Arms") My PGP Public Key(s): RKBA! - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:34:49 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Vance Subject: Fagafornia learns lessons from Rome; The Barbs are here (fwd) F >From rkba@xpresso.com Tue Mar 20 20:27:26 2001 From: Bill Vance Message-Id: <200103210427.UAA18218@xpresso.com> Subject: Fagafornia learns lessons from Rome; The Barbs are here (fwd) To: fap@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), noban@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), roc@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), 4-19@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), ocs@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), rap@xpresso.com (Bill Vance) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:27:26 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F >From slk@xpresso.com Tue Mar 20 20:06:19 2001 From: Bill Vance Message-Id: <200103210406.UAA18177@xpresso.com> Subject: Fagafornia learns lessons from Rome; The Barbs are here (fwd) To: 4-19@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), ocs@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), rap@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), roc@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), rkba@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), fap@xpresso.com (Bill Vance), noban@xpresso.com (Bill Vance) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:06:19 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] F >From johngalt!boing.topica.com!list-errors.1600021790.0.1610942910.006 Tue Mar 20 20:03:32 2001 To: Dave Kuehne From: dkuehne@erols.com Subject: {SD-2} Open hostilities by Mexicans throughout southern California Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:26:01 -0800 Message-ID: <0.1600021790.1823524209-212058698-985145161@topica.com> Reply-To: Slick-D@topica.com ~~~ forwarded message ~~~ News & Commentary By: Hal Turner Los Angeles, CA -- While the rest of America is being told to "celebrate multiculturalism," some of those we've welcomed to this nation have a very different idea. It isn't being given any coverage in the local newspapers. You certainly won't be seeing it on television. But thousands Mexicans living in Los Angeles are aggressively bashing the United States with illuminated L.E.D. car signs that read: "Fuck You, this is still Mexico." Photos posted on web site below: Open hostilities by Mexicans throughout southern California http://www.halturnershow.com/mexico.htm F F F - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:43:46 -0600 From: linzellr@datastar.net (Robert Linzell) Subject: [Fwd: ALERT: Medical Privacy Deadline] - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ALERT: Medical Privacy Deadline Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:20:10 -0500 From: "The Liberty Committee" Reply-To: "The Liberty Committee" To: "Liberty Activist" Dear liberty activist, Liberty cannot exist without the right to privacy. What part of our lives deserve privacy more than our personal medical history? Should federal, state, and local governmental agencies (including law enforcement) along with banks, insurance companies, HMOs, drug companies, marketing companies, researchers, foreign governmental agencies and others have access to your medical records WITHOUT your consent? Under the final medical privacy rule adopted by the Department of Health and Human Services (H.H.S.) and published in the Federal Register on December 28, 2000, your consent will NOT be required for a variety of people to read your personal medical history. Last year, during a seven-day period in February, over 12,000 of you sent comments to then-Secretary Donna Shalala objecting to the proposed federal medical privacy rule. Your efforts in February of 2000 significantly helped delay the implementation of these so-called medical privacy regulations. On December 28, 2000, the federal privacy rule was published in its final form. However, the new secretary of Health and Human Services Tommy Thompson is allowing one more opportunity for citizens to present comments to his department. Comments must follow strict guidelines on form and content. H.H.S. is not accepting comments by telephone or fax. To help you comply with these guidelines, we are providing a petition (http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/medprivacypetition.htm) that addresses the most serious flaws of the final, 367-page rule. Please sign the petition by 1:00 p.m. ET, Friday, March 30th and I will deliver your petition in person to Secretary Thompson's office before 5:00 p.m. that day. Every American needs to know what we know. Please help with this nationwide, grassroots effort. Sign the petition at http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/medprivacypetition.htm and ask others to do the same. If you need additional information about this issue, go to Institute for Health Freedom at http://www.forhealthfreedom.org/Publications/Privacy/MedPrivFacts.html . We now have two opportunities to protect our medical privacy: 1. passage of H. J. Res. 38 and 2. action that Secretary Thompson can take. Please go to http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/medprivacypetition.htm now. Kent Snyder The Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org - -- Bob in Mississippi - State Motto: Virtute et Armis ("By Valor and Arms") My PGP Public Key(s): RKBA! - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #435 *************************