From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #442 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Friday, May 18 2001 Volume 02 : Number 442 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:15:40 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: 15 SIGNPOSTS TO SLAVERY (fwd) - ----- Forwarded message from ocs@xpresso.seaslug.org ----- From: BOBWORN@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:12:27 EDT Subject: 15 SIGNPOSTS TO SLAVERY 15 SIGNPOSTS TO SLAVERY #1- Restrictions on taking money out of the country, and on the establishment or retention of a foriegn bank account by an American citizen. #2- Abolition of private ownership of hand guns. ( ex. scraping of our Second Amendment Rights ) #3- Detention of individuals without judicial process. #4- Requirements that private finacial transactions be keyed to social security numbers or other government identifcation, so that government records of these transactions can be fed into a computor. #5- Use of compulsory education laws to forbid attendence at presently existing private schools. Also the arrest of individuals, and harassment of Home and Church Schools by Government Agencies. #6- Compulsory non-military service. #7- Compulsory psychological treatment for non-government workers or public school children. #8- An official declaration that anti-communist (Patriot) organizations are subversive and subsequent legal action will be taken to suppress them. #9- Laws limiting the number of people allowed to meet in a private home. Or laws limiting how many groups of people can meet together on street corners. #10- Any significant change in passport regulations to make passports more difficult to obtain. #11- Wage and price controls, especially in a non-wartime situation. Free Trade policies destroying the business's of small business people. #12- Any kind of compulsory registration with the government of where individuals work. ex. National I.D. Card needed for work. #13- Any attempt to restrict freedom of movement within the united States. #14- Any attempt to make a new major law by executive decree( that is, actually put into effect, not merely authorized as existing executive orders.) #15- Constant " Safety " traffic stops and searches by Law Enforcement Officers. Yes folks, I think that we have seen such abuses and many more. The question is " What are we going to do about it??? http://www.freedomfoundation.net United we Stand, divided we Fall!!!!! - ----- End forwarded message ----- - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:17:19 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Will Florida be the first state to disembowel the Bar? (fwd) From: Charles Nawrocki Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:11:50 -0500 Subject: {slick-d} Fwd: Will Florida be the first state to disembowel the Bar? >From: Harsha Sankar >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:56:47 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: Will Florida be the first state to disembowel the Bar? > > > From the April 2001 Idaho Observer: > > > > http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20010410.htm > > > > Will Florida be the first state to disembowel the > > Bar? > > > > Persistent grassroots activist may have started > > movement to end legal monopoly > > > > MIAMI LAKE, Fla. -- By persistently distributing his > > > > bumper stickers and pamphleteering in courthouses > > all over Florida, Robert Bertrand of the National > > Congress for Legal Reform has created a critical > > mass of public opinion that could result in the > > state decommissioning its Bar association. > > "We have started a movement that is spreading all > > over the country," said Bertrand. > > > > Bertrand, 61, who started his crusade in 1986 when > > friends committed suicide after lawyers took > > everything in their divorces, has perfected the > > manner in which the public can be educated about > > how lawyers have taken over all three branches of > > government. He suggests that people read the > > Federalist Papers, the Anti-Federalist Papers and > > the material on his websites. Then go down and > > get a rubber stamp that says, 'Help Save America, > > Don't Vote for Lawyers' and stamp everything you > > send out in the mail," Bertrand advised. > > > > Our nation, Bertrand explained, is suffering from an > > epidemic of "cognitive dissonance". Most people don't > > like lawyers, don't trust lawyers and tell lawyers > > jokes every chance they get -- but then they go down > > and vote them into public office. > > > > James Madison, one of the authors of the Federalist > > Papers, was charged with the task of creating a > > government with enough power to control, but not > > enough power to oppress. He stressed the importance > > of the separation of powers. He knew that a > > government where the same hands are allowed to make, > > interpret and enforce the laws is a government that > > will oppress its people. "The enemy is us, we have > > allowed lawyers to take over control of all three > > branches of government," said Bertrand. > > > > Bertrand is considering the possibility of promoting > > a bill that would make reading the Federalist Papers > > and the Anti-Federalist Papers a requirement of > > graduation from public school. Once students read > > the Federalist Papers, 95 percent of them agree that > > lawyers should not be allowed to occupy positions in > > the legislative or executive branches of government > > (the other five percent are the sons and daughters > > of attorneys). Bertrand even sent a comprehensive > > and extremely well documented report on the price > > Floridians have paid for lawyer-occupied government > > to all of the state's officers and legislators. He was > > in the capitol building when (attorney) Speaker of > > the House Tom Feeney stood up and said, "Legislators > > are guilty of treason." > > > > His outburst was in response to a chronology > > contained in the report that details how, since > > 1938, lawyers have been systematically empowered > > to effectively, "privatize", the judicial branch > > of state government. > > > > Bertrand's tactics have been having an impact. In > > 1986 when he began, 46 percent of the state Senate > > was comprised of lawyers and 32 percent of the > > House of Representatives were lawyers. Today, 30 > > percent of the Senate and 18 percent of the House > > are lawyers. > > > > "I want ordinary citizens to see that there is > > hope -- that we can do something without spending > > a lot of money", said Bertrand. > > > > Though many courthouses throughout the land post a > > sign that says, "We who labor here seek only the > > truth,", lawyers, unlike citizens, can lie without > > fear of prosecution. If you provide > > evidence to the Bar that a lawyer has lied, the Bar > > will not prosecute him because lying is a lawyer's, > > "stock in trade". State attorney generals and the > > U.S. Department of Justice will not prosecute lying > > lawyers for much the same reasons. > > > > Several of the nation's most knowledgable people > > support Bertrand's efforts. Dr. Steve McGee, chief > > economist for the University of Texas in Austin has > > studies that show that every lawyer in the country costs > > the American people a minimum of $1 million in lost > > productivity. With a million lawyers, we can estimate > > that lawyers cost us $1 trillion annually, commented > > Bertrand. > > > > Dr. Gary Green, chief criminologist of the University > > of Georgia in Albany and author of the book, "Occupational > > Crime," has published the results of studies which prove > > that the legal profession is by far the most corrupt > > industry in America. > > > > Dr. David Levy, president of the Children's Rights Council > > in Washington, D.C., states that 30 percent to 40 percent > > of the cost of medical care in this country is due to > > excessive, lawyer-induced litigation. > > > > But the role lawyers have had in the destruction of > > the American family is arguably their worst crime. As > > goes the family, so goes the nation. The concept of > > the no-fault divorce was born in Russia to facilitate the > > creation of a communist state. The intention was to make > > divorce easy so as to destroy the family and thus gain > > control of individuals and their children. It worked > > beautifully in Russia. With the help of lawyers, it is > > working beautifully in the U.S. > > > > If we can educate people about the separation of powers > > and then remove lawyers from the legislative and > > executive branches of government, I believe a lot of the > > problems we have in our country will begin to fix > > themselves, said Bertrand. > > > > In a coming edition of The IO, we will significantly > > expand on this exciting and obviously doable arena of > > activism. If you want to know more about how Bertrand > > and his group have become so effective, call David > > Calhoun at (305) 534-1362. You can also read the > > material found at the following websites: > > > > http://www.constitutionalguardian.com/ > > http://www.calhounreport.com/ > > http://www.americans4legalreform.com/ - ----- End forwarded message ----- - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:21:37 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: ANSWER: Re: Time has come to end the U.N. (fwd) - ----- Forwarded message from ocs@xpresso.seaslug.org ----- From: Rich Martin Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [richslick] ANSWER: Re: SlickMisc: Time has come to end the U.N.= =20 From: "Committee to Restore the Constitution" =20 Subject: ANSWER: Re: SlickMisc: Time has come to end the U.N.=20 Rich Martin,=20 "Time has come to End the UN" prompts support response ....=20 Please repost the following "Rules of Engagement".=20 Thank you.=20 Col Roberts=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 RULES OF ENGAGEMENT=20 SURVIVAL OF THE REPUBLIC IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT=20 Transform 'spectatorship' to 'participation' in the struggle to restore a= nd=20 defend basic principles originally embodied in the Constitution of the=20 United States.=20 Our enemy is the 'secret government of monetary power', and their agents,= =20 who are engaged in a criminal conspiracy to overthrow the Constitution of= =20 the United States (and its protective covenants) and establish a 'world=20 government' administration on ruins of the Republic.=20 Thousands of 'patriot forums' in the United States offer=20 education/information on the threat to America and her people. Few provid= e=20 a solution to the problem.=20 The more daring instruct their readers to "write a letter to your=20 Congressman", a person more likely than not to be an agent of the mattoid= =20 elite who have seized control of policy-making and conflict management in= =20 the United States Government.=20 The result is a neutralized community convinced that resistance to tyrann= y=20 is futile. Socialist moles in some organizations encourage this defeatist= =20 attitude.=20 It must be clear, however, that a population under siege and perpetually = on=20 defense is doomed to ultimate subjugation. Somewhere, somehow Americans,=20 victims of unending social, economic, political and media attack, must=20 counter-attack.=20 Final transfer of the United States and her people into a United Nations=20 world government managed by alien administrators is happening in your=20 lifetime. (See European Union and EU monetary system.)=20 Impending political/economic disaster demands intelligent acceptance of=20 facts behind the crisis. And, it requires courageous marshalling of men,=20 women and resources to take whatever action is necessary to expose and=20 neutralize the sick-brained personalities who have sentenced our people t= o=20 a socialist animal farm.=20 HERE IS YOUR TACTICAL OPERATION TO CRIMINALIZE THE MEN AND THE SYSTEM=20 HERDING AMERICAN CITIZENS IN A MINDLESS MARCH TO NATIONAL OBLIVION.=20 Committee To Restore the Constitution, Inc. offers you a citizen-initiate= d,=20 State legislative program to defeat the United Nations plot to reduce you= =20 and your descendants to landless serfs in a communized America.=20 Lacking your participation in the "war we are losing" America will become= a=20 land of 'yesterdays people'.=20 APPLICATION OF THE REMEDY=20 Committee to Restore the Constitution operations are constructed on the=20 premise that the sovereign State has the authority to 'criminalize'=20 usurpers of State powers and fine the guilty $20,000.00, or imprison each= =20 for twenty years, or both. UNITED STATES CODE, Title 18 Section 2384.=20 THE STATE, a Principal in the Constitution Contract, is legally responsib= le=20 to direct its Agents in Washington to confine the functions of government= =20 to limitations defined in the Constitution, or be subject to 'corrective=20 action' for failure to follow instructions from their Principal. (See=20 Articles 1, II and III, Constitution of the United States.)=20 Only the States which won their independence as Sovereign Nations as a=20 result of the "Treaty of Peace" that closed the Revolutionary War can be=20 the source of power in the Federal Agencies - which they later created by= =20 the Constitution Contract. Each succeeding State entered the Union of=20 States on an equal footing with the original thirteen Nation States.=20 THE CITIZEN, source of all political power, is required to instruct local= =20 and State officials to honor their oath of office, "=8Ato defend and pres= erve=20 the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and=20 domestic=8A".=20 You must generate appropriate response from your State lawmakers to defen= d=20 and preserve freedoms of person and property guaranteed to you by your=20 State and Federal constitutions.=20 * * *=20 RULES OF ENGAGEMENT to remedy criminal acts by Federal and/or State=20 officials follow.=20 OPERATIONS PACKET: $10.00 from COMMITTEE TO RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION, Inc= .=20 Archibald E. Roberts, LtCol, AUS, ret, Director - Post Office Box 986, Fo= rt=20 Collins, Colorado 80522 - (970) 484-2575.=20 1. Sample 'letter of instruction' to your State legislator(s) - for adaptation.=20 2. Supporting documents:=20 a. "United Nations Plans for America", October 2000 Bulletin #467 - wit= h:=20 "Model State Bill to Investigate the Legality of the Action of Feder= al=20 Agents With Regard to the United Nations Organization"=20 and=20 "Model State Bill to Provide for the Enforcement of the Constitution= of the United States With Regard to the So-Called United Nations=20 Organization"=20 (provides `criminal snactions')=20 Both State Bills prepared by Attorney T. David Horton, Counsel,=20 Committee to Restore the Constitution, Inc.=20 b. "Constitution Day", November 2000 Bulletin #468=20 c. "United Nations is the Greatest Fraud in All History - It's Purpose=20 is to Destroy the United States", Congressman John E. Rankin - flyer=20 d. "State Action to Restore the Constitutiion", July 2000 Bulletin #464= =20 e. "Should the United States Participate and Encourage Development of=20 the United Nations", July 1986 Bulletin #289=20 f. "Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace", August 1986 Bulletin #290=20 g. "United Nations Threat to Sovereignty", A Study and Commentary by th= e=20 Alabama Legislative Commission to Preserve the Peace, March 1998 Bulletin= =20 #433=20 NOTE=20 A finding by any State Legislature that the United Nations seeks to=20 overthrow the sovereignty of the United States and its constituent States= =20 can be used by any other State legislature as a basis for adopting State=20 Statutes printed in Supporting Document `a'.=20 h. "Roberts Goal: Preserving the Constitution", March 1993 Bulletin #37= 4=20 i. "The New World Order", April 1994 bulletin #387=20 j. "To Support and Defend", October 1995 Bulletin #393=20 k. "Who Commands United Nations Military", June 1997 Bulletin #425=20 l. United Nations Charter 99 - A Charter for Global Democracy"=20 m. Committee book list, Betsy Ross Press, PO Box 986, Fort Collins, CO 80522=20 Citizens may help finance Committee operations by making a tax-free gift = to=20 THE FOUNDATION FOR EDUCATION, SCHOLARSHIP, PATRIOTISM AND AMERICANISM,=20 Inc., a Texas tax-exempt charitable organization founded 1960. IRS ID=20 #74-605 2458.=20 FESPA operates under provisions of Section 501 (c) (3), Internal Revenue=20 Code, and is registered in the State of Colorado. ID #98-03053.=20 Write for U.S. Treasury Department 'determination letter', dated 3 April 1963.=20 FESPA brochure included.=20 FOUNDATION FOR EDUCATION, SCHOLARSHIP, PATRIOTISM AND AMERICANISM, Inc.=20 Archibald E. Roberts, LtCol, AUS, ret, President, PO Box 986, Fort Collin= s,=20 CO 80522=20 - ----- End forwarded message ----- - --=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:22:59 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Gun poll (fwd) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:26:05 -0400 From: Brad3000 Subject: [Fwd: Gun poll] FWIW... - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Gun poll Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:13:01 -0400 From: "press@gunsafe.org" Reply-To: press@gunsafe.org Organization: Gunsafe (www.gunsafe.org) To: "Gunsafe members" Do you support a three-day waiting period for buyers at gun shows (McCain's bill)? As always, if we win the poll, we'll never hear about it again, but if we lose... This morning, we're losing. Way down on right side. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/ - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:26:39 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: BOY SCOUTS ALERT: SENATE VOTE PENDING!! (fwd) From: Charles Nawrocki Date: Wed May 16, 2001 9:29 pm > From: autosend@grassfire.net (Grassfire.net) > * * * * * * * * * * * > GRASSFIRE.NET BOY SCOUTS ALERT > MAY 16, 2001 > * * * * * * * * * * * > > --SENATE VOTE ON SCOUTS IMMINENT! > > --READ BELOW AND FORWARD TO 5 FRIENDS > > > Dear Richard, > > A few weeks ago, you helped Grassfire.net flood Congress with > more than 12,000 Western Union mailgrams urging Congress to > introduce legislation supporting the Scouts. > > Great news=E2=80=A6 It worked!!! > > On Monday of this week, Sen. Jesse Helms introduced an > amendment on the floor of the U.S. Senate to protect the Scouts > from discrimination! > > It's called the "Boy Scouts of America Equal Access Act," and the > vote will likely take place in the next two weeks! > > Click here for details on the "Scouts Equal Access Act": > > http://www.grassfire.net/mailgraminfo2.asp?rid=3D324132 > > (AOL Users click the line below: ) > Cl= ick > here > > Now that the legislation has been introduced, we must act right > away to register our support and ensure that it gets passed! > > Grassfire.net is moving quickly to gather an additional 70,000 > petitions so we can deliver 350,000 to Sen. Helms' office in > support of the Scouts. But we need your help to ensure that every > Senator feels the heat from thousands upon thousands of citizens > who support the Scouts! > > Here's what we need you to do: > > #1 -- SEND A MAILGRAM TO YOUR TWO SENATORS AND > YOUR REPRESENTATIVE IN SUPPORT OF THE "SCOUTS > EQUAL ACCESS ACT". > > For just $12, Grassfire.net will get your letter of support HAND- > DELIVERED right away to your two U.S. Senators and your > Representative! These mailgrams get the message across loud and > clear that you support the Scouts and want this legislation > passed. Click below to read the actualletter and send your mailgram: > > http://www.grassfire.net/mailgraminfo2.asp?rid=3D324132 > > (AOL Users click the line below: ) > Cl= ick > here > > #2 -- CALL YOUR SENATOR AND URGE THEM TO > SUPPORT THE "SCOUTS EQUAL ACCESS ACT" AS > INTRODUCED BY SENATOR HELMS. 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And please remember to forward this message to > your friends who support the Scouts! > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > CLICK BELOW TO SEND THREE HAND-DELIVERED > MESSAGES TO CONGRESS SUPPORTING THE > "SCOUTS EQUAL ACCESS ACT." > > http://www.grassfire.net/mailgraminfo2.asp?rid=3D324132 > > (AOL Users click the line below: ) > Cl= ick > here > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, CLICK HERE TO > JOIN THE 280,000 WHO HAVE SIGNED THE > GRASSFIRE.NET PETITION IN SUPPORT OF THE SCOUTS: > > http://www.grassfire.net/scouts.asp?PID=3D324132 > > (AOL Users click the line below: ) > Click her= e > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > Mr. Richard Thompson's Boy Scouts > Grassfire Network: > > Friends you inspired to support the Scouts: 24 > Number of states your influence has reached: 10 - --=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:27:42 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: U.N. Aims To Banish Groups - Thursday, May 17, 2001 (fwd) From: "Barb Alford" Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:59:16 -0700 Subject: [harpazo] U.N. Aims To Banish Groups - Thursday, May 17, 2001 http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20010517-2367676.htm U.N. panel now aims to banish groups By Betsy Pisik THE WASHINGTON TIMES NEW YORK -- The U.N. oversight committee that booted the United States fr= om=20 the U.N. Human Rights Commission is trying to ban several private human=20 rights advocacy groups from participation in the United Nations. Those=20 targeted include Freedom House, the Baptist World Alliance, the Simon=20 Weisenthal Center and the Family Research Council. "First, they silenced the United States=B4 voice on the human rights=20 commission. Now, they are going after U.S.-based human rights advocacy=20 groups," said Freedom House President Adrian Karatnycky. The effort is being orchestrated in a 19-nation subcommittee of the=20 54-nation U.N. Economic and Social Council (Ecosoc), which has become=20 increasingly polarized between democratic nations and others such as Suda= n,=20 Sierra Leone, China and Cuba. The subcommittee is responsible for accrediting nongovernmental=20 organizations (NGOs) and renewing accreditation every four years.=20 Accreditation is needed for NGOs to participate in U.N. discussions. Accusations that the United Nations is targeting private human rights gro= ups=20 come at a time of growing congressional impatience with the world body. The House last week voted to withhold $242 million in U.N. dues next year= =20 unless the United States gets back its seat on the U.N. Human Rights=20 Commission. In a secret vote by the full Ecosoc committee this month, the= =20 United States lost its seat for the first time ever. Freedom House, an NGO group founded by Eleanor Roosevelt in 1941, lately = has=20 upset Russia by questioning its military actions in Chechnya, angered the= =20 Chinese with criticism of religious intolerance, alienated Cuba by pressi= ng=20 for freedom of speech and enraged Sudan by challenging its bid for=20 membership in the Security Council on human rights grounds. All four governments are represented on the NGO subcommittee, and each ha= s=20 challenged Freedom House and other prominent human rights groups in their= =20 efforts to either win accreditation or renew existing credentials. "It is inappropriate," said Robert Maginnis, vice president for policy of= =20 the Washington-based Family Research Council, whose application for=20 accreditation has been deferred for the third time. "We are a pro-life,=20 pro-faith, pro-family organization that has shown a commitment to human=20 rights," he said. At an Ecosoc subcommittee hearing last week, Mr. Maginnis said, the Famil= y=20 Research Council representative "was on the hot seat for an hour and a ha= lf"=20 defending the group=B4s positions against abortion and sex trafficking. The subcommittee recommends which groups should be recognized to particip= ate=20 in U.N. forums and meetings. The recommendations then are forwarded to th= e=20 full Ecosoc committee for a vote. Longtime observers say it=B4s getting harder for bona fide human rights=20 advocates to win accreditation with the current composition of the Ecosoc= =20 subcommittee. They note that Russia will challenge any group criticizing its actions in= =20 Chechnya, China will automatically block any group that characterizes Tib= et=20 or Taiwan as independent of Beijing and Cuba opposes any group that=20 criticizes the Castro regime. Last week, for example, Cuba=B4s representative accused Freedom House of=20 lending its accreditation badges to Cuban dissidents. Beijing=B4s representative criticized the group for failing to say in its= =20 reports that Taiwan is a province of China. Joanna Weschler of Human Rights Watch said that repressive governments we= re=20 emboldened two years ago, after Sudan successfully won the ouster of=20 Christian Solidarity, the group that buys and then liberates Sudanese=20 slaves. "Complaints are rare, but they are increasingly growing and intensifying,= "=20 said Ms. Weschler, who said that Human Rights Watch was denied accreditat= ion=20 for several years in the early 1990s. Freedom House=B4s Mr. Karatnycky praised the U.S. counselor on Ecosoc, Ri= chard=20 Williams, for battling to renew the group=B4s accreditation. But Mr. Maginnis of the Family Research Council, which is applying for=20 accreditation for the first time, said he wishes U.S. delegates would hav= e=20 defended his group more vigorously against what he views as political=20 attacks. "Because we are . . . perceived to be aligned with the Bush administratio= n,=20 and given the situation on the human rights commission and the backlash=20 against President Bush, we were a handy whipping dog to go after," he sai= d. A State Department official said problems arose with the Family Research=20 Council=B4s application for accreditation. "They=B4re hung up on procedural issues. There are no substantive objecti= ons=20 within the committee," said the official, who spoke on condition of=20 anonymity But some characterize procedural objections as a fig leaf to hide an atte= mpt=20 to stifle criticism of human rights abuses. "The complaints against us are largely procedural, like the allegation th= at=20 we improperly obtained a certain translation service for a meeting in=20 Geneva," said Michael Goldfarb, Freedom House=B4s spokesman. "They are seizing on alleged technical infractions as a means of censurin= g=20 organizations. At heart, it=B4s really a freedom of speech issue. There s= eems=20 to be a climate of stifling open legitimate and substantive debate of=20 important human rights issues and abuses," he said. Several groups, such as the Simon Weisenthal Center and Baptist World=20 Alliance, didn=B4t even realize that their applications were in danger of= =20 being rejected. "I suspect they only want more information," said George D. Younger, the=20 U.N. representative for the Baptist World Alliance. "Our operations are=20 transparent and not politically motivated." The group, based in McLean, Va., represents 162,000 churches in 116=20 countries. "To the credit of the U.N. system, the staff are extremely sympathetic to= =20 NGOs, and the Secretary-General [Kofi Annan] stresses the importance of=20 hearing the views of civil society," said Mr. Karatnycky. "But the member= s=20 of Ecosoc are another story." =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." --Jesus= =20 Christ, John 8:32 "We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth... For my part, I am= =20 willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it= ."=20 - --Patrick Henry - --=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:28:47 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: S.A.S. REGARDING THE MMM ANNOUNCEMENT THAT IT IS JOINING FORCES WITH UN (fwd) From: Steve Moser Subject: {SD-2} Fw: S.A.S. REGARDING THE MMM ANNOUNCEMENT THAT IT IS JOIN= ING FORCES WITH=20 Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:41:21 -0500 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D NEWS FROM THE SECOND AMENDMENT SISTERS 900 R.R. 620 S Suite C101 Box 228 Austin, TX 78734 World Wide Web: http://www.2asisters.org Toll-free phone/fax 877-271-6216 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE May 13, 2001 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D For additional information, contact Maria Heil National Press Coordinator/Spokesperson PRESS ONLY: 877-797-4857 E-mail: press@2asisters.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D REGARDING THE MMM ANNOUNCEMENT THAT IT IS JOINING FORCES WITH THE UNITED NATIONS Austin, TX -- Second Amendment Sisters (S.A.S.) is extremely dismayed by the announcement on Thursday May 10, 2001 that the Million Mom March (MMM) will be joining forces with the United Nations (UN) to become the Billion Mom March (BMM). See the announcement at http://www.billionmommarch.org =93We proudly joi= n with you=85we love our children more than the gun lobby loves it guns!=94 Stated Mary Leigh Blek, President, Million Mom March. Participants in the press conference were Under Secretary-General Jayantha Dhanapala, UN Department of Disarmament, Donna Dees Thomases, founder of the Million Mom March, USA, and Elvi Ruottinen, spokesperson for the Billion Mom March. =93In the past year the MMM has stated over and over again that they are NOT for the banning of firearms. Yet they are now apparently changing their minds, as they are joining forces with the UN and the UN Department of Disarmament,=94 stated Juli Bednarzyk, President, Second Amendment Sisters. =93To ignore the number of lives saved by the presenc= e of guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens is terribly irresponsible.=94 In the Preparatory Committee for the United Nations Conference on The Illicit Trade in Small Arms And Light Weapons in All Its Aspects, 36th meeting on March 26th, 2001 the committee addressed =93=85 measures to prevent arms falling into arms of children; surplus of light weapons; disarmament, demobilization and reintegration; the role of civil society; confidence-building and exchange of information on exports and imports=85 Changes were also proposed to address laws and administrative procedures, their implementation and enforcement; penalization of certain activities connected to illegal trafficking; the promotion of steps toward prohibition of trade and private ownership of light weapons; and the culture of non-violence.=94 Emphasis ours. Clearly, the MMM is now in support of taking guns out of the hands of all private citizens. SAS is protecting the basic human right of self-defense. # # # - --=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:55:37 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Ford Motor hints that they will apply pressure on media (fwd) From: Rich Martin Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [News2U] Ford Motor hints that they will apply pressure on media From: "Jay Walley" Subject: Ford Motor hints that they will apply pressure on media to block publication of article on thier funding of Audubon and Earthwatch. From: J. Zane Walley To: fordfund@ford.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: Second request for interview,! May 17, 2001 Sandra E. Ulsh Ford Motor Company Dear Ms. Ulsh, I requested an interview with you on Ford's Five Million dollar relationship with the Audubon Society and Earthwatch, and instead I was contacted by Brook Galibraith. Ms. Galibraith had no information other than "no comment" and proceeded to interrogate me as to where this article will be published and which TV networks and national talk shows would air it. Because of her agressive tone, it is my personal opinion that she was "fishing" for information, so that Ford could put pressure on the media that dares publish and/ or air this rapidly growing story. Is this really the message you want to send to the buying public? Tomorrow morning I depart for Washington and Saturday I will be speaking to over 400 leaders of grassroots organizations. Outside of your "form" letter that you send to every person who contacts your office; what am I to say to these folks that represent 17% of America about Ford funding organizations that put rural America out of Business. Again, I request a "real" interview today. I will not be available tomorrow. J. Zane Walley Jounalist 505-653-4024 _________________________________________________________________________________________ Recent Real damages by the Audubon Society Letter from a List Member Dear Ms. Ulsh: I see where you have given the Audubon Society and the Earthwatch $5 million each. I must tell you that the Audubon Society has joined other environmental groups (probably including Earthwatch), in sueing the US Government to (1) stop the building of a cemetery on Fort Huachuca, AZ in which to bury veterans of WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and the Gulf War; (2) stop the building of an airport on Fort Huachuca to be used by the city of Sierra Vista, AZ to attract businesses to improve the economic viability of this area; and (3) to force the closing of Fort Huachuca, the lifeblood of what's known locally as the Greater Huachuca Area. Should these lawsuits succeed, Sierra Vista, AZ will become another western ghost town with no property values left to sustain the few people who won't be forced to move out to obtain work elsewhere. While your motives may be altruistic or simply to get the environmentalists of your backs, you are in effect helping them to destroy this small town of about 35,000 hard working, productive people, many of whom own Ford vehicles. I myself own two Mercury Grand Marquis LS vehicles. Allow me to assure you that I will NEVER AGAIN buy another Ford product, plus I will send this e-mail to everyone on my e-mail list and ask them to keep the message to Ford circulating. Since you are apparently attempting to destroy Ford's customer base, I will help you do just that. Thanks for nothing. Sincerely, John - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have thoughts on Ford's relationship with Audubon Society and Earthwatch, Mrs Sandra E. Ulsh may be emailed at fordfund@ford.com Please send a cc: to me for my records. Jay - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #442 *************************