From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #449 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Saturday, June 30 2001 Volume 02 : Number 449 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 12:15:49 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: PAC Formed to Support Lock Up Public Lands from Public Use (fwd) Definitely effects hunting, fishing, logging, ranching, and you name it. From: Ambrovista@aol.com Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:20:02 EDT Subject: PAC Formed to Support Lock Up Public Lands from Public Use New PAC Formed to Support Lock Up Public Lands from Public Use http://www.reagan.com/HotTopics.main/HotMike/document-6.21.2001.4.html Will Be Patterned after "Emily's List" DATE: June 20, 2001=20 BACKGROUND: Wild PAC is a new political action committee that will "targe= t=20 key Congressional races" in 2001 and focus on each candidate's "depth of=20 their public lands and wilderness protection efforts."=20 TEN SECOND RESPONSE: Environmentalists demand that more and more lands be= =20 made "wilderness," which puts them off-limits to human use. I don't think= =20 American citizens believe "our lands" should be locked away from them so = they=20 can=B9t enjoy them.=20 THIRTY SECOND RESPONSE: I believe the American people want to preserve ou= r=20 lands, as do I. However, most Americans also believe that we can safely u= se=20 parts of these lands to obtain oil and gas. Today there are drilling=20 techniques that are environmentally-friendly and timber management has ta= ught=20 us that it is better to harvest some trees instead of letting them burn, = as=20 happened last summer.=20 DISCUSSION: Wild PAC will focus on local, state and national candidates a= nd=20 activate advocates to work on campaigns. It claims it will use "the same=20 successful techniques as EMILY'S list" in aiding candidates. It will targ= et=20 get-out-the-vote efforts in 2002 and help organize local fundraisers. To = find=20 out more about Wild PAC, go to http://www.wildpac.org . A list of sponsor= s is=20 available on the website at http://www.wildpac.org/whatiswildpac.htm but=20 there is no specific information yet on which candidates will be targeted= .=20 by Gretchen Randall, Director of Energy & Regulatory Affairs, The Nationa= l=20 Center for Public Policy Research=20 Contact the author at: 773-857-5086 or GRandall@nationalcenter.org The=20 National Center for Public Policy Research, Chicago office 3712 North=20 Broadway - PMB 279 Chicago, IL 60613=20 - --=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:12:47 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Fiedor Report on the News (fwd) From: Doug Fiedor Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:19:12 -0400 Subject: {NewsUCanUse} Fiedor Report on the News Fiedor Report on the News A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia June 24, 2001 #233 by: Doug Fiedor dfiedor@home.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------- WHATEVER HAPPENED TO INDEPENDENCE? This is the time of year when all good Americans should read the Declaration of Independence. Most people won't. But, a few good Americans will. It is worth reviewing why the Colonists declared their independence from England and went to war. They wanted freedom from the constraints of an over-intrusive central government -- much as many of us do again today. In fact, one clause of the Declaration of Independence is almost haunting when read in context today: "He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance." Would that we had it so good today! Today's federal government perpetrates the constraints of not four or five unconstitutional federal agencies on the people of the United States but the never ending regulatory excesses of one-hundred and thirteen independent federal agencies. Consequently, there are so many laws, rules and regulations controlling the lives of the American people that no person, in or out of government, knows even half of them. The "Father of our Constitution," James Madison warned us that(1): "It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man, who knows what the law is today, can guess what it will be tomorrow. Law is defined to be a rule of action; but how can that be a rule, which is little known, and less fixed?" The point is, when the volume of law enacted by government far exceeds the ability of the governed to comprehend, there is, in effect, no law. The unexpected consequence, then, is what we see today: selective tyranny. The Declaration of Independence also decries: "He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them." This closely sums up the relationship between the so called "sovereign" States and the federal government today. State governments are directly under the beck and call of all sorts of minor bureaucrats in the various federal agencies and departments. States' Rights were essentially abolished when FDR instituted socialism in the United States Another of the complaints the Colonists had with the Crown is again one of our most ominous problems today. The Declaration of Independence states: "He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation." Today, it's the United Nations interfering in our laws through both treaties and out and out demands for change. UNESCO constantly interferes with our private and public property through the U.S. and UNESCO Man and the Biosphere program and Heritage Sites. The World Bank, International Monitory Fund, Kayoto Protocol, NAFTA and dozens of other such "agreements" all work to redistribute our wealth overseas and adversely impact on our personal liberty. The Founding Fathers reacted to a few spurious import and export taxes. Today, Americans are registered with the federal government at birth so government agents may track, and tax as appropriate, every activity in life. We must pay taxes if we give our children money. There is an income tax fine on marriage. All of our personal income is taxed throughout life, then the government takes half of the after-tax money we have saved when we die. Yet, few of us complain. Federal taxes, laws, rules, and regulations considerably increase the cost of all intra and inter state products. And, the federal government even interferes in the personal and business affairs of those of us who never even leave our State or deal with businesses in another State. Today's federal government is comprised of over 1.8 million bureaucrats and another shadow government of over 5.5 million in the federal contracted corps. Most in this army of 7.3 million government workers (one for every 20 American taxpayers) exert control over some part of our personal freedom. So, yes, we should all read and understand the Declaration of Independence. Because, two-hundred and twenty-five years ago our country's Founding Fathers went to war for much less than we Americans grumble about regularly today. We definitely need a resurgence of liberty. - ----------------------------- 1. The Federalist Papers No. 62 SOCIALISM, GUNS AND POLICE It appears that keeping the people disarmed hasn't worked out very well. Not since the immigrant influx, anyway. In fact, the lack of the means of self protection has become darn right dangerous for the average folk, and the police. And, yeah, I know, it's not nice to poke fun at 'em while they're down. But, they've been saying all sorts of cruel things about us lately, so they deserve it. Besides, if the truth hurts, good! Let's call it "tough love," or something. Anyway, according to the June 17 Sunday Times (London), they've got themselves into a bit of a problem over there. In a country where the people are not allowed to own guns, let alone carry a handgun, only the crooks now have guns. Oh, and the gang bangers . . . street punks and drug dealers have guns, too. According to the Sunday Times, guns "are being carried almost as fashion accessories by young men in inner cities, creating a more volatile atmosphere." Of the 42 murders reported in London in April and May, thirteen were by gun -- many by punks emulating Jamaican "Yardie' gangsters." Over the last year, there were many other reports of young thugs breaking into homes almost at will. If the residents complain, they are clubbed and the punks take what they want and move on to another home. What's to stop them? The British, of course, do not want this information disseminated in the United States -- stiff upper lip, and that sort of thing, you know.(1) First, they would like to see the American people disarmed and this information most certainly does not support that action. And second, they are embarrassed because a lot of their crime is by "minorities." Even hinting at the real source of the problem is very politically incorrect to the socialists over there. We're not politically correct on this end, though. We say street punks are street punks, no matter what their race, color, creed, or national origin. Out here in the Foothills of Appalachia we have sort of an unwritten rule: Anyone assaulting another with a gun or other deadly weapon probably needs to be shot. Apparently, the police in and around London are realizing that now. They have also noticed that having the means of self defense on ones person can also be damn handy at times. Necessary, too. According to recent reports from Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary, firearms were issued to officers in 10,915 cases last year, which was nearly three times more than in 1991. Some areas now arm foot patrol officers -- which means that, for the first time, the Bobbies are carrying guns. It gets better, though. The Sunday Times reports that, "police forces have quietly armed their officers with a new high-powered armour-piercing assault rifle in an attempt to retain the upper hand in an arms race with criminals." Besides handguns, police are now getting the Heckler & Koch G36K, a high-velocity military assault rifle used by some special forces. Special ammunition, too. And, lots and lots of body armor. But, the bad guys over there have body armor, too. So, the Bobbie's new guns will use bullets that are "narrower and longer than the standard 9mm" and contain more gunpowder to make them effective over greater distances. Of course, they'll have the laser sights, too. So, in effect, the Brits are setting up many, many SWAT teams around their country. You see, over there guns are illegal for the normal people so only crooks and street punks have guns. The police and the crooks are in an arms war. The people are caught in the middle. Unarmed. However, there's even more to this story. The British police are also having the same problem with their SWAT teams as we have here: You cannot put a squad-fire team out on the street all psyched up and armed with all sorts of fancy weapons and not expect them to start looking for someone to shoot. They are trained to kill people -- shoot first and ask questions later -- rather and be a peace officer. And, kill people they do. Unarmed people, too. There is already alarm in England over the innocent people killed by these squad-fire teams. So, some Bobbies may soon find their firepower cut back to glue guns, tasers, beanbag guns, and "green lasers" that can be used to blind people. That's "Third Way" socialism. The bad guys will still have guns and the people will remain sitting targets. - ----------------------------- 1. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/html/cjusew96/crvs.htm A CLOG IN THE SOCIALIST MACHINE One usually unspoken truth is that liberalism is little more than a tool for concealing the truth. They can't let their useful idiots in the proletariat know that, of course. Instead, they gussy up all the far-left programs and present them as being necessary to help the poor and "promote diversity" -- or their new mantra: "for the children." The far-left groups have been working on their methods for nearly a century and have gotten very proficient. Today, they are so good at the propaganda that even major political leaders fail to realize that it's all just a scam; a means of dividing so as to conquer and control. In the United States, we fall into their ploys by allowing them to continue causing racial tensions, spout environmental lies as truth and promote an ever-expanding central government's control of everything. Freedom of speech means they may lie as much as they wish, no matter how much civil strife they cause throughout the country. Control of the Democratic Party gives them a platform with which to use to trash our Constitutional form of government. And, their friends in the national media outlets allow their devious propaganda messages to be presented as truth. Their plan worked smoothly for the past 70 years. Even many Republicans in government capitulate and vote to approve socialist programs. The truth is, we have been totally indoctrinated and nearly two-thirds of us now accept some quite unconstitutional socialist federal programs as "normal" government -- medical programs, welfare, gun control, education, etc. So, one would think, the schemers controlling the far-left would be happy and celebrating their success. But, one would be wrong. Because, there's an itsy-bitsy little clog in the gears of the socialist machine that could soon kill their whole program completely. Besides the fact that socialism, in any form, does not work and any country that has tried it for any length of time has gone belly-up, there's a much more immediate problem looming. That is, the American people are starting to catch on to what's happening. And, they are not at all pleased. Yeah sure, most Americans don't quite know "exactly" what is happening. But, what they are starting to realize is that few politicians can be believed. People are starting to see that politicians are either actually creating crises or claiming there is one just to put in place more socialistic programs as a fix. For instance, the decline of our inner cities is a direct result of the LBJ "Great Society" programs and the medical insurance problem and the energy crisis in California are the result of governments' interference in the free market. The American people have not started taking the politicians to task yet, but that's right around the corner. All that is needed is a popular national leader with the ability to "explain" the problem properly. When that happens, many political heads will roll. Meanwhile, numerous American people are quietly disregarding the propaganda arm of the socialist trinity: the national media. Americans from coast to coast are realizing that the national media are very, very biased in favor of socialism. Those in the national media showed their true colors during the Clinton administration when they started coming out against our Constitution and the Founding Fathers. That caught the collective attention of millions of Americans and tended to cause them to start looking at media bias across the board. Not knowing exactly what to do about this strong media bias, Americans started using a very old, and proven, method for correction: shunning them. The result was slow, but palpable nonetheless. Many newspapers began losing revenue and quite a few required new capital and major lay-offs to stay afloat. We look for two or three of the major liberal newspapers to go bankrupt within the next couple years. Yet, the conservative publications are doing quiet well. On the Internet, the very left Salon Media Group, Inc. went from a healthy stock to actually being kicked off the Nasdaq when their stock fell to just pennies. Last January, the TV networks started laying off. NBC trimmed it's staff by 600, CNN fired over 1,000 and the others are following suit. Advertisers are starting to learn that Americans are totally fed up with the socialist bias in the news. In fact, many Americans have joined together to make sure advertisers know. Take a close look at the new group, Citizens Coalition For Responsible Media(1), and check their results. Then, consider helping. - ----------------------------- 1. http://www.fairpress.org/ ~ End ~ - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:17:15 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: VIN -- "Patients' Bill of Rights" (fwd) FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Watch out for politicians promising us new 'rights' Even liberal Michael Kinsley, formerly of the New Republic and now editor of "Slate," expresses astonishment at the way the Republican Party - -- onetime purported champion of limited government -- is going along with the heavy-handed notion of a "Patients' Bill of Rights." "Republican complaints about the Democratic bill are limited to the issue of lawsuits. It's hilarious -- and, I suppose, inspiring -- that no major Republican is out there saying, 'No. This violates my most basic free-market principles. Insurers should be free to offer any deal they want and consumers should be free to take it or leave it,' " Mr. Kinsley writes in his weekly column for The Washington Post. Mr. Kinsley also correctly diagnoses the sleight-of-hand now at work in disguising the true costs of this newest layer of government meddling, and who will pay them: "Nobody denies that the cost of these new benefits will ultimately hit the beneficiaries in the form of higher insurance premiums. But nobody who supports the bill plays this up, either." In fact, what we are seeing in this (really extremely limited) debate over a new form of government meddling in the health care industry is just another demonstration of von Mises' Law. The celebrated Austrian economist figured out decades ago that government interventions in the free market only trigger strings of unintended consequences, which inevitably lead for calls for new government interventions to fix the problems caused by the initial government meddling ... et cetera ad infinitum. During and immediately after the Second World War, the United States government froze most wages in this country, supposedly as a measure to limit war "profiteering." (This from the government that appropriated the design for the Jeep from those who invented it, let the Jeep contracts to well-heeled corporate campaign donors, and allowed the firm whose engineers invented the Jeep to build ... little trailers to be pulled behind the Jeeps.) In fact, of course, trying to halt employers from bidding competitively for the most desirable employees is like passing an ordinance that makes it illegal for bricks or other dangerous objects to fall from great heights. American employers simply lured away the employees they wanted by offering them an additional value the government had forgotten to freeze -- health benefits. Thus were health benefits inextricably bound up with the American workplace, where previously Americans had paid for their own doctors visits out of pocket -- or gathered together in fraternal organizations to contract with provider physicians, a strategy which the American Medical Association long and vehemently decried. So now, congressmen score political points by shouting that they're shocked -- shocked! -- to learn that Americans can lose their health coverage when they lose or change their jobs, insisting that something be done. That something turned out to be the Health Maintenance Organization, of course, a business enterprise with which no one is actually obliged to contract, but which will generally insert in its contracts (in order to hold down costs) a method for resolving disputes over "refusals to provide coverage" other than going to court. What? Expect sick people to be bound by some "contract"?! So here comes Congress again, riding to the rescue, attempting to dictate whether and when such contracts should be binding, and when patients should be allowed to go play the lawsuit lottery ... no matter what so-called "contract" they've signed. A better solution, of course, might be to allow health care consumers to form negotiating units based on something other than the workplace -- buying their health care with the strength of numbers provided by the Elks, perhaps, or the Moose, or the Odd Fellows or the International Order of Foresters. Oh wait, that's the way it used to be done 90 years ago, before the AMA went to the government and lobbied against such "prepaid health care," insisting that the only route to quality was "fee-for-service." Isn't it? Government will never repair its meddling in the health care field with more meddling. The problems will only be solved by collapsing the whole charade, like the riggers dropping a circus tent after the last performance of the night. Let the doctors charge cash, if they want, offering stout discounts for patients "who don't make us bother with insurance companies." Let them prescribe whatever drugs they want, instead of maltreating chronic pain based on the perverse and fantastical premise that "We're going to pretend mankind has never discovered the opiates." Let insurers compete in a free market, offering as much or little coverage as they like. Government's only role should be to prosecute outright chicanery and fraud. Food is necessary for health and survival, too. Are Americans starving because Congress isn't rushing to pile more regulations on our "Nutrition Maintenance Organizations?" Or do all us "amateurs" just pick a free-market supermarket of our choice, and get along just fine? Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Subscribe to his monthly newsletter by sending $72 to Privacy Alert, 1475 Terminal Way, Suite E for Easy, Reno, NV 89502 -- or dialing 775-348-8591. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926) "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken * * * The Vinsends list is maintained by Alan Wendt in Colorado, who may be reached directly at alan@ezlink.com. The web sites for the Suprynowicz column are at http://www.infomagic.com/liberty/vinyard.htm, and http://www.nguworld.com/vindex. The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:55:45 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Lying with statistics? (fwd) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 03:50:44 -0400 From: kurt Subject: Lying with statistics? >Lying Statistics > >"Every year since 1950, the number of American children gunned down has >doubled." Did you know that? It is just as well if you did not, because it >is not true. > >http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20010628.shtml > >-- >Bob Mueller >Media Relations Chair >Ohioans For Concealed Carry >www.OhioCCW.org Anyone do the math on that? Assuming only one child was shot in 1950, doubling the number each year... we should expect 1,125,899,906,842,620 (1.12 quadrillion) children to be killed this year by guns. Never mind that this number represents more than 200,000 times the world population! So if you suddenly notice that more than 35 million children are being shot every SECOND of every day, 24 hours day, 365 days a year, you'll know this statistic is true! By the way, if the shooters use one bullet per kid, at 200gr. each, the bullets alone - not including the cases, primers or powder, would weigh on the order of 16 billion tons. So be sure to buy lead futures! (The total amount of lead mined since 1970 is just under 2.5 million tons, so we'll be using 160,000 times as much lead as we normally do - what with all the kids being shot.) To get an idea of how much lead this is, 16 billion tons would be about 50,624,000,599 cubic feet of lead... a sphere nearly 4600 feet in diameter. The entire population of the world would fit into a volume about 2/3 that size.) By contrast, if we assume that the average car uses 2000 pounds of steel, the U.S auto production for an entire year utilizes less than 1 millionth this much steel by mass. Placed side-by-side (assuming .45 cal bullets) stream of bullets would reach from the earth to the moon and back more than 16,000 times... with enough left over for a few round trips to the sun. Ain't math fun? Kurt - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:04:21 -0400 From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Re: Lying with statistics? (fwd) > > > >Lying Statistics > > > >"Every year since 1950, the number of American children gunned down has > >doubled." Did you know that? It is just as well if you did not, because it > >is not true. > > > >http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20010628.shtml > > > >-- > >Bob Mueller > >Media Relations Chair > >Ohioans For Concealed Carry > >www.OhioCCW.org > >Anyone do the math on that? > >Assuming only one child was shot in 1950, doubling the number each >year... we should expect 1,125,899,906,842,620 (1.12 quadrillion) >children to be killed this year by guns. Never mind that this number >represents more than 200,000 times the world population! > >So if you suddenly notice that more than 35 million children are >being shot every SECOND of every day, 24 hours day, 365 days a year, >you'll know this statistic is true! > >By the way, if the shooters use one bullet per kid, at 200gr. each, >the bullets alone - not including the cases, primers or powder, would >weigh on the order of 16 billion tons. > >So be sure to buy lead futures! (The total amount of lead mined >since 1970 is just under 2.5 million tons, so we'll be using 160,000 >times as much lead as we normally do - what with all the kids being >shot.) > >To get an idea of how much lead this is, 16 billion tons would be >about 50,624,000,599 cubic feet of lead... a sphere nearly 4600 feet >in diameter. The entire population of the world would fit into a >volume about 2/3 that size.) > >By contrast, if we assume that the average car uses 2000 pounds of >steel, the U.S auto production for an entire year utilizes less than >1 millionth this much steel by mass. > >Placed side-by-side (assuming .45 cal bullets) stream of bullets >would reach from the earth to the moon and back more than 16,000 >times... with enough left over for a few round trips to the sun. > >Ain't math fun? > >Kurt - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:20:23 -0400 From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Re: Lying with statistics? (fwd) At 04:04 PM 6/28/01 -0400, you wrote: >> >Lying Statistics Ooopps, was supposed to go to another list. Sorry, Tom - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:10:19 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: FYI Traffic Tickets (fwd) OT, but good news for many..... From: Steve Moser Subject: {SD-2} Fw: FYI Traffic Tickets Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 22:01:18 -0500 FYI Traffic Tickets ACCURACY IS OUR ONLY WEAPON, if we are not accurate, then we are not truthfull. "Education is a Weapon - Facts are the Ammunition. Share what you learn - Others ARE listening!" From: Margi Crook Subject: Traffic tickets Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 5:06 PM Just thought I would share this with you, as I work in the ticket enforcement division and in the course of my investigation into "fines, their payment methods, and how points are assessed against drivers licenses" we discovered something very interesting. If You Get A Traffic Ticket, this has been tried and it works..... I tried to send this to everyone I know. I know that for a fact this works, so if you ever get in this situation, you have an out. We discovered that this procedure works in every state. Read it and try it, you have nothing to lose but the points on your license. This is how it works: If you get a speeding ticket or went through a red light or whatever the case may be, and you are going to get points on your license, then there is a method to ensure that you DO NOT get any points. When you get your fine, send in the check to pay for it and if the fine is say, $79, then make the check out for $82 or some small amount over the fine. The system will then have to send you back a check for the difference, but here is the trick! ***DO NOT CASH THE REFUND CHECK!!!*** Throw it away!! Points are not assessed to your license until all financial transactions are complete. If you do not cash the check, then the transactions are NOT complete. However, the system has gotten its money and is happy and will not bother you any more. This information came to our attention from a very reliable computer company that sets up the standard database used by each states' DMV. Good luck and share this with all your friends and other family members, as well!!! **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only. [Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 02:22:34 -0500 From: "Ira Wilsker " Subject: HOAX - Re: FYI Traffic Tickets (fwd) This is an OLD HOAX that has been circulating around the net for years! DETAILS: http://urbanlegends.about.com/science/urbanlegends/library/blpoints.htm - ----------- FYI Traffic Tickets ACCURACY IS OUR ONLY WEAPON, if we are not accurate, then we are not truthfull. "Education is a Weapon - Facts are the Ammunition. Share what you learn - Others ARE listening!" From: Margi Crook Subject: Traffic tickets Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 5:06 PM Just thought I would share this with you, as I work in the ticket enforcement division and in the course of my investigation into "fines, their payment methods, and how points are assessed against drivers licenses" we discovered something very interesting. If You Get A Traffic Ticket, this has been tried and it works..... I tried to send this to everyone I know. I know that for a fact this works, so if you ever get in this situation, you have an out. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:35:05 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Fiedor Report on the News (fwd) From: Doug Fiedor Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:26:30 -0400 Subject: Fiedor Report on the News Fiedor Report on the News A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia July 1, 2001 #234 by: Doug Fiedor dfiedor@home.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------- THEY SHOULD OBEY THE LAWS Four years ago, Congress passed a bill requiring them to obey all laws, rules and regulations, just like normal citizens. Therefore, we offer a few selected excerpts from Title 48, Volume 1, Parts 1 to 51 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Revised as of October 1, 1996, for your reading enjoyment. This is good stuff. Because, if everyone on Capitol Hill (and those in all executive departments) are legally bound to obey each and every one of their laws, rules and regulations, our question is this: Where do we go to file charges!? Almost everyone in Congress is in violation of these "Standards of Conduct." So are their staffs. On the slim chance this regulation could be enforced, the halls of the Capitol Building would be rather empty. Of course, those elected to federal office are above all this. They give lip-service to obeying all laws, then totally disregard anything too restrictive for them. Nevertheless, it is fun to wave this stuff in their faces, if only just to tell them we notice the blatant violation. We might also add that, since elected Americans can pick and choose which laws they wish to obey, why shouldn't ALL Americans do the same? On that note, you may wish to send a copy of the following to your Members of Congress. Their reply should be interesting. ................................ Title 48, Volume 1, Parts 1 to 51 of the Code of Federal Regulations(1): This part prescribes policies and procedures for avoiding improper business practices and personal conflicts of interest and for dealing with their apparent or actual occurrence. 3.101 Standards of conduct. Government business shall be conducted in a manner above reproach and, except as authorized by statute or regulation, with complete impartiality and with preferential treatment for none. Transactions relating to the expenditure of public funds require the highest degree of public trust and an impeccable standard of conduct. The general rule is to avoid strictly any conflict of interest or even the appearance of a conflict of interest in Government-contractor relationships. As a rule, no Government employee may solicit or accept, directly or indirectly, any gratuity, gift, favor, entertainment, loan, or anything of monetary value from anyone who (a) has or is seeking to obtain Government business with the employee's agency, (b) conducts activities that are regulated by the employee's agency, or (c) has interests that may be substantially affected by the performance or nonperformance of the employee's official duties. . . . Gratuity or other thing of value includes any gift, favor, entertainment, or other item having monetary value. The phrase includes services, conference fees, vendor promotional training, transportation, lodgings and meals, as well as discounts not available to the general public and loans extended by anyone other than a bank or financial institution. Influencing or attempting to influence, as used in this section, means making, with the intent to influence, any communication to or appearance before an officer or employee of any agency, a Member of Congress, an officer or employee of Congress, or an employee of a Member of Congress in connection with any covered Federal action. Person, as used in this section, means an individual, corporation, company, association, authority, firm, partnership, society, State, and local government, regardless of whether such entity is operated for profit or not for profit. - ----------------------------- Perhaps, we should also take the time to define a couple legal terms that are more or less common practices within the federal government.(2) Malfeasance: "The unjust performance of some act which the party had no right, or which he had contracted not, to do." Misfeasance: "The performance of an act which might lawfully be done, in an improper manner, by which another person receives an injury." Nonfeasance: "The neglect or failure of a person to do some act which he ought to do. The term is not generally used to denote a breach of contract, but rather the failure to perform a duty towards the public whereby some individual sustains special damage, as where a sheriff fails to execute a writ. "When a legislative act requires a person to do a thing, its nonfeasance will subject the party to punishment; as, if a statute require the supervisors of the highways to repair such highways, the neglect to repair them may be punished." Every member of every level of government takes an oath to support and defend our Constitution, as written. Any government official who does not is in violation of the supreme law of the land. - ----------------------------- 1. http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/multidb.cgi 2. "The Cyclopedic Law Dictionary" by James C. Cahill, dated 1922. This dictionary was chosen because it was published before American law was corrupted by the FDR administration. MALFEASANCE IN WASHINGTON "Congressional Responsibility" is almost an oxymoron. They pawn-off everything they can to boards, commissions, agencies, and what have you. To make a decision, to actually take a stand on an issue, is to loose votes. And, that could put them out of a cushy job. Professional politicians will do everything possible to stay in power. Therefore, they must pick and choose their "positions" very carefully. That is also why they do not pay much attention to that paper document known as the Constitution. To do so would not always be politically expedient. So, it's with pleasant surprise that "The Congressional Responsibility Act of 1997," received some attention. The purpose of the act was, as the name implies, to force Congress to comply with its Constitutional role. As Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) stated in his "Freedom Watch Update" newsletter: "Article One of the Constitution limits the power to make certain laws solely to Congress. But the [current] practice has been very different. Congress has all but abdicated the real law-making authority to the alphabet soup of federal agencies. These agencies -- like the IRS, the EPA, the Department of Education, Health and Human Services, the Labor Department, etc. -- make rules which carry the full effect of law. These rules affect the minute details of the lives of individuals in every aspect of life, yet no elected official -- accountable to the voters and taxpayers -- sees the rules or has any part of the process. It's now time for this to change. These bureaucratic dictators need to be reigned in; and only Congress can do it. "This legislation will end the arbitrary rule-making authority of agencies. When an agency decides a rule is 'needed' for whatever reason, they will be required to submit that rule to the House and Senate. Those two bodies will debate the rule, just like any other piece of legislation, and then vote on it. If it passes, the rule goes into effect. If the vote fails, the rule does not go into effect." Of course, the bill didn't pass. But, it is needed. It is hard enough to keep up with what the conniving socialists in Congress are doing. It is impossible for citizens to keep track of the lawmaking of thousands of control-freaks working in at least 112 different federal agencies, too. Yet, each and every action of any and all of these bodies can adversely affect our lives. According to the Constitution, Congress, and no one else, is responsible for making law. Worse, we are legally bound to obey all these stupid rules and regulations, even the hundred or more that contradict other agency rules and/or federal laws. This is definitely not what was intended by the Founding Fathers; and, everyone in Washington knows that. While we're at it, there is a law already on the books that Congress is skidding away from like a hot coal sliding down an icy hill. This one is the "Congressional Review Act." The 1996 Congressional Review Act gives Congress the ability to scrutinize and expunge all new regulations, rules, policy statements, and guidelines issued by executive agencies. Except, no one in Congress has ever used it! To do so might require that some of them make a decision. For instance, there are at least forty Members of Congress publicly against the new (and totally ridiculous) EPA clean air regulations. But, not one Member of Congress is actually working to stop this new round of oppression. Not one. "Malfeasance," it's called. And, malfeasance is a crime. Everyone in government takes an oath to support and defend our Constitution. According to the U.S. Supreme Court(1), when we have a question as to the exact meaning of any part of the body of the Constitution, we may look to The Federalist Papers as an authoritative source: "The opinion of the Federalist has always been considered as of great authority. It is a complete commentary on our constitution; and is appealed to by all parties in the questions to which that instrument has given birth. Its intrinsic merit entitles it to this high rank; and the part two of its authors performed in framing the constitution, put it very much in their power to explain the views with which it was framed." Public officials not conforming to the Constitution, as written and explained in the Federalist Papers, are intentionally guilty of malfeasance: "The unjust performance of some act which the party had no right, or which he had contracted not, to do." - ----------------------------- 1. Cohens v. Virginia, 19 US 264, 1821 http://laws.findlaw.com/us/19/264.html PAYOLA AND PAYBACK It's kind of funny to watch the press and members of both political parties carry on the way they do. Outwardly, they are expressing horror that the Chinese may have tried to use covert campaign donations to influence American policy and political campaigns. What a bunch of hypocrites! How many countries continually meddle in our political affairs? Israel spends at least $100-million annually lobbying Congress and the executive branch through various Washington law firms. Japan Inc. spends millions, too. And don't forget Taiwan, Mexico and many South American countries. Those are the more obvious countries competing for American lawmakers' attention using trips, favors and laundered campaign contributions. Most countries are in that mix somewhere, and with some amount of money. And how has the United States been meddling in other nations' internal affairs over the years? Whew! Wouldn't that be a long list. . . . In every budget, Congress appropriates hundreds of millions of dollars in covert and overt money to use in influencing domestic politics abroad. The CIA alone spends $30 million a year supporting things like political parties, dissident movements and labor unions in dozens of countries -- including China. There's no telling how much of that is out and out bribes or political pay-offs. So, is there any surprise when the money trail leads both ways? Most foreign governments and businesses have become quite good at laundering money to "contribute" to our public officials in Washington. It's all technically illegal, of course. But, as the Democrats are so fond of saying lately: "So what! Everyone does it." And indeed, it's true. Most politicians are very willing to take illegal money. All they look for is a respectable cut-out (like a D.C. lobbying firm) as a front organization so they can have "plausible deniability." To politicians, the end justifies the means. This is politics American style. Laws? All government workers get a pass on many laws. Some public officials get a pass on most laws. That's one of the perks of the position. But now China might have spoiled it for some. China didn't use enough "cut-outs" -- adequate layers of money laundering in between their government and our politicians -- to make the money look respectable. Worse, they gave a lot of the money directly to two moles they had working in our government. One would think that the Chinese would at least be bright enough to hire a few lobbyists (Washington lawyers or ex Congress critters), and set up a couple front organizations, like other governments do. There are two other major problems, too. First, China is the only avidly Communist country attempting to effect our elections with political payola. And second, China is the only country powerful enough to sustain a war with us that is also buying influence with our politicians. These reasons alone tend to bump the Chinese contributions from the "so what" to the "serious problem" column in Washington. But the fact still remains: Many foreign governments, and many foreign business concerns, lobby Congress and the executive branch every day. Ninety- percent of them also contribute heavily to political campaigns, and whatever. Ten to one, we do the same in their countries too -- even though that too is a violation of our law. With China, we gave the Chinese Army owned businesses all sorts of trade breaks not available to their competition. That, in itself, is amazingly stupid! China gets away with that by allowing the families of members of our government special trade arrangements and "investment" positions in Chinese government controlled concerns that are sure to pay off. Some major media personalities are involved in a couple of those deals, too. Even Roger Clinton was involved in that. Congressional investigators said they found at least $250-thousand in unexplained traveler's checks that Roger Clinton cashed. They came from Hong Kong, China and Venezuela. Not bad for a common lounge lizard, eh? As the story on the street goes, on one of his Presidential visits, Bill Clinton made arrangements with the Chinese for his brother to be one of their principal agents in the United States. There's no telling how much payola Bill and Hillary Clinton received, too. Anyway, it's outrageous, hypocritical, and down right funny, when politicians and the media point the finger at China without so much as a mention of the other countries and their permanent Washington lobbies. Oh, and by the way, it is supposedly illegal for a foreign government to lobby our government, except through diplomatic channels. ~ End ~ - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #449 *************************