From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #460 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Saturday, August 11 2001 Volume 02 : Number 460 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 22:29:04 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: New Policy on Firearm Background Checks (fwd) From: DAnde1706@aol.com Subject: New Policy on Firearm Background Checks Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 21:55:14 EDT In a message dated 8/4/01 12:52:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hirider@wt.net writes: > Please excuse if this is a duplicate, but it's important, IMO-- > > Carolyn > > > Important: Please send your comments to Attorney General Ashcroft. > Contact info is at the bottom of the page. > > New Policy on Firearm Background Checks > United States Attorney General John Ashcroft is seeking public > comment > on a > new policy involving firearm background checks. Our rights under the > Second > Amendment have been abused by retaining our personal information long > > after > our background checks have proven us to be "clean". > > Previously, under the Clinton administration, background checks were > retained for up to 90 days with out reason. Mr. Ashcroft wants > Instant > Background checks to return to what they were supposed to be, > Instant. > Under > the new policy background checks will be deleted within 24 hours. > > The Attorney General is accepting public comment until September 4th, > so > > please let him know that we as sportsmen and firearm owners support > his > > new > policy. You should state that you feel applications should be > destroyed > immediately. > > To reach Attorney General John Ashcroft you can e-mail: > askdoj@usdoj.gov > or > call (202) 353-1555. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:52:24 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Socialism Is A Disease, Not A Cure........ (fwd) From: BOBWORN@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:20:01 EDT Subject: Socialism Is A Disease, Not A Cure........ But will the sheeple, the dumbed-down-by-the-public-fool-system masses, ever realize this? I THINK NOT! Bob Socialism Is Not The Cure by Rob Moody Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. ~ Frederic Bastiat Last fall, I heard at least one politician criticize his opponent for voting against federal funding for breast cancer research. "This unenlightened boob [pun intended] voted against funding for breast cancer research! He must want women to die!" The implication is that unless the federal government funds the research, it won't be done. After all, who would have a financial incentive to find a cure for cancer? My neighborhood recently held an auction, the proceeds from which went to the Avon Breast Cancer Crusade. Similar fundraisers are held all the time. The local news often covers walks or runs that benefit research for a specific disease or disorder. Sometimes someone will even send me a letter asking me to sponsor her in a walk or run. Additionally, the country is currently debating whether the federal government should fund stem cell research. I have yet to hear anyone argue that such research would be best left to the private sector, assuming that it did not involve the taking of a human life. Fundraisers continue to be held (which makes the participants feel good about themselves) and money continues to flow from the federal government (which makes the politicians look good). Yet after a number of decades and billions of dollars, we still don't have a cure for many diseases. This approach of providing donations or federal funding to researchers who do not work for a private company is a huge waste of time and treasure, and doomed to failure. All you have to do is look at the financial incentives these people have. If the federal government hired you to help find a cure for cancer, paid you $100,000 a year and provided you with a nice office in an air conditioned building, what would your incentives be? If you worked long and hard and eventually found a cure for cancer, you might be rewarded for it by losing your job. As long as you didn't find a cure, you could continue to earn a nice living while proudly telling your family and friends that you were "looking for a cure for cancer." The primary goal of every bureaucrat is to keep his or her job by ensuring that the funding for it continues to flow from the government. If that means taking your time to find a cure for cancer, so be it. If we were really serious about results instead of our own self-esteem or the popularity of politicians, we would get the government out of the medical research business and let the private sector work its magic. Government research tends to crowd out private research by reducing the odds that a significant discovery will be made. Additionally, after the federal government basically forced a private company to share its map of the human genome, there is now much greater uncertainty about how much a company would be able to benefit after investing years and millions of dollars in research and development. Why go to all of that trouble and expense if the federal government is going to be waiting for you at the end of the process with a deal that you literally can't refuse? Certainly medical research should receive funding. The question is, which research should receive how much funding, and from whom? In a free market, entrepreneurs and investors decide these questions. Since their own time and money is at risk, they carefully determine which research is most likely to produce results, and which research would provide the most benefit to the greatest number of consumers (i.e., which research would be the most profitable). If they fail, only they are held responsible. In a planned economy, politicians and bureaucrats decide which research receives how much of the loot that has been confiscated from others. The primary consideration is whether it will make incumbent politicians look good and help them get reelected. If a cure isn't found, that's even better, because then the politicians will have a permanent constituency of researchers and their families who are dependent on them. In a planned economy, failure is prima-facie evidence of the need for even greater funding instead of an incontrovertible signal to pull the plug on the whole operation. No amount of federal funding is ever going to find a cure for anything. If you want to promote medical research, here are some things you can do. First, stop electing politicians who vote to provide government funds for medical research. Second, start a medical research company or start working for one. Third, buy shares in medical research companies when they go public, or buy their bonds when they issue debt. Finally, start or contribute to a fund that will award a monetary prize to the people who find a cure for a particular disease or disorder. Socialism is what ails us; it's not the cure for anything. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:53:11 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Glad To Post It Again, Bill...... Our "Gate Notice". (fwd) From: BOBWORN@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:24:23 EDT Subject: Glad To Post It Again, Bill...... Our "Gate Notice". N O T I C E THE OCCUPANTS OF THE PROPERTY ONTO WHICH YOU ARE ABOUT TO ENTER HAVE A GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO BE FREE AND SECURE IN THEIR PERSONS, HOUSES, PAPERS AND EFFECTS. IF YOU ARE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF THE COUNTY OF UPSHURE, AN AGENT OF A LOCAL NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION WISHING TO ENFORCE WHAT YOU THINK IS A LAW BASED IN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, YOU ARE MOST WELCOME AS A VALUED NEIGHBOR. PLEASE READ, AS A MEASURE, THE FOLLOWING AS PERTAINS TO WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS LAW AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY LAW. IT IS IMPORTANT TO YOUR WELL BEING AS WELL AS OURS. BOB & MARIE WORN 1811 SHAMBURGER ROAD PRITCHETT, TEXAS 75645-2759 903-734-6970 LAW OF THE LAND The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the Land. The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows: The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted. Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it ... A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the lend, it is superseded thereby. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it. Sixteenth American Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 256 - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:53:09 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: The Local Police are Not the Military - Get it Right! (fwd) From: Swftl@aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 03:42:35 EDT Subject: The Local Police are Not the Military - Get it Right! The Local Police are Not the Military ... Get it Righ Lubbock's Lessonhttp://www.lewrockwell.com/elkins/elkins47.html =20 =20 Lubbock's Lesson by Jeff Elkins It's become a commonplace event - a domestic dispute turns ug= ly=20 and the police are called. Matters escalate and a desperate, armed man=20 barricades himself in his home. The patrol officers back off and establis= h a=20 perimeter, waiting for the specialists, the men in the black ninja suits.= =20 That was the scene in Lubbock, Texas on a sweltering July=20 morning. Richard Robinson, an unemployed mechanic, had been out of work s= ince=20 the state had taken his car and body shop through an act of eminent domai= n,=20 paying him a year's salary, $45,000. Robinson and his wife Laura had argu= ed=20 the previous day about his unemployment and the police were called. The=20 patrol officers resolved that dispute with no charges being filed, but th= e=20 emotions still simmered below the surface. They argued loudly yet again t= he=20 following day, and the police returned. Robinson refused to leave his hou= se=20 and speak with the patrol officers. Robinson did not respond to negotiators' attempts at contact=20 until 12:30 p.m. When he was contacted, Robinson was "distressed and=20 emotionally volatile," according to police spokesman Bill Morgan. Robinso= n's=20 moods were described as "agitated and almost manic at times." After several hours of "negotiations," the SWAT team initiate= d a=20 "break and rake" maneuver in which windows are knocked out and curtains a= re=20 cleared away. However, as team members broke the first window at 3:18 p.m= .,=20 the disturbed individual the boys in black were attempting to "rescue" op= ened=20 fire. "He (Robinson) fired through the walls and the windows from the sha= dows=20 of the house," Morgan said. "As soon as he cut loose, an officer went dow= n=20 with a head wound." Lubbock police Sgt. Kevin Cox died from that gunshot wound to= the=20 head soon after arriving at Lubbock's University Medical Center, Morgan s= aid.=20 Undercover Officer Jonny Hutson suffered a superficial head wound after h= e=20 was "ticked by a bullet passing through his hat," Morgan added. Robinson's weapons were at least semi-automatic and possibly=20 fully automatic, Morgan said. An astonishing 369 rounds were fired during= the=20 pitched battle, that Robinson initiated with a 20 or 30 round burst of=20 gunfire. About an hour after the gunfire had ended, Richard Robinson,=20 crawled wounded from his house to the porch after the SWAT team fired tea= r=20 gas into the home. Robinson, who suffered a gunshot wound to his left sid= e=20 during an intense exchange of gunfire, was charged with capital murder. B= ond=20 was set at $1 million. A commonplace story in today's armed America, right? Perhaps = more=20 than we know. Actually, the story is riddled with lies and distortions, f= rom=20 start to finish. Richard Robinson was unarmed and never fired a single sh= ot.=20 Miraculously, he survived an attempted assassination by a police murder s= quad=20 in which through ineptitude, they killed one of their own and wounded=20 another. Charges against Robinson have been dropped and the Lubbock polic= e=20 department is in disarray, with Police Chief Ken Walker suspended. Charge= s of=20 an attempted cover up swirl through the community, and a copy of Walker's= =20 2000 job review cited "Aggressiveness of the SWAT team" as an area of con= cern. Perhaps Lubbock can learn a lesson from this debacle. First a= nd=20 foremost, why in the world does a small Texas community require its own a= rmy?=20 The Lubbock SWAT team responded in full battle gear, armed with fully=20 automatic weapons, armored personnel carriers, flammable CS gas - the ent= ire=20 panoply of tools for the modern infantryman.=20 In a perfect example of the militiarization of Mayberry,=20 Lubbock's police have been converted from protectors of the peace to a=20 veritable standing army. Instead of guarding their flock from the wolves,= the=20 common constables are now warriors for the state, ready to murder those t= hey=20 swore to protect.=20 A wise step for Lubbock City Manager Bob Cass would be the=20 immediate suspension of SWAT operations, in their entirety, in addition t= o=20 the suspension of Police Chief Ken Walker. Let Lubbock take the lead and = get=20 rid of the fully automatic weapons, armored personnel carriers and flamma= ble=20 CS gas. If the citizens of Lubbock are wrongfully denied fully automatic=20 weaponry, the local police should be denied it as well.=20 In a free republic any insurrection requiring massive militar= y=20 firepower should be the business of the Governor of Texas and properly=20 regulated citizen militia, not ill-trained and aggressive local police.=20 Certainly not in response to a domestic dispute. Let Lubbock mandate that all police officers wear either prop= er=20 uniforms or normal plainclothes, depending on their duties. No more black= =20 uniforms and masks, no more ninja outfits. Let the citizens of Lubbock se= e=20 who they've hired to "Protect and Serve", rather than be confronted with=20 frightening and un-American thugs who instead have a mission to "Punish a= nd=20 Suppress." If the city fathers of Lubbock show some wisdom, they can tur= n=20 this horrible incident around and perhaps even start a national trend.=20 Unfortunately, if past actions are indicative of the future, a useless=20 commission will issue a useless report, the inept police chief will be=20 replaced with someone just as inept and things will go on as before - unt= il=20 the next killing.=20 August 6, 2001 Jeff Elkins [send him mail] is a freelance consultant and wri= ter=20 living in North Central Florida. His personal website is located at=20 www.elkins.org. Copyright =A9 2001 LewRockwell.com Jeff Elkins Archives=20 - --=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= - --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:39:03 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Why I'm a Right-Wing Extremist (fwd) From: Carl William Spitzer Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:13:37 PDT Subject: {slick-d} WS>>Why I'm a Right-Wing Extremist by Chuck Morse - Published: 02.15.01 The term "right-wing" makes me uncomfortable for good reason. As a Jew, naturally, I'm not sympathetic to Nazism given Hitler's Holocaust against the Jews. Members of my grandparents family were liquidated by the Nazi's. Nazism and Fascism are referred to as "right-wing," yet, in this country, the label is applied to libertarians, conserva- tives, and even, in certain circumstances, to liberals. How could the majority of Americans who generally advocate limited government, self rule, liberty, sovereignty, private property, religion, a moral code etc...be lumped in with Fascists who advocate the exact opposite? After all, last I checked, Hitler wasn't exactly known for his respect of private property ownership. My relatives could've attested to that had they survived. Neither was Mussolini famous as an advocate of limited government. How could it be then, that libertarian/conservatives such as myself are spoken of in the same breath as those who advocate the exact opposite of everything we believe in? The answer can be found in the way the left deals with opposition. Anyone who opposes a left-wing agenda, however it is defined at a given time, risks being placed into the "right wing" bin. To the left, the term right-wing applies to anyone who is not left-wing. This has even included devout Marxists who may have deviated from the party line. Marx himself invented the term "capitalism" as a derisive reference to the emerging free market of the nineteenth century. His attempt at defamation was turned into a badge of honor. The term capitalist today is synonymous with freedom. The same should apply, in the US, to the term right-wing. The American Revolution was a war against a right-wing British monarch who was imposing absolute tyranny over his colonies. The colonists rejected his European conception of hereditary aristocracy, the divine right of kings, a state church, and a mercantilist economic system where charters are granted to monopolies. Jeffersonian libertarianism called for an aristocracy of ability, a government serving citizens under a Constitution, freedom of religious expres- sion, and free enterprise. American's were never right-wing by the classic definition of the term. The European right and left were two types of tyranny. The right used the church as a tool of authority while the left used atheism in the same manner. The right gravitated toward a hereditary aristocracy while the left looked to a "dictatorship of the proletariat" under a "hero of the people" such as Stalin. The right viewed property as a servant of the state while the left sought outright control over property for "the common good." The right was hyper nationalist while the left practiced world conquest through "struggle" and subversion. The right sought earthly utopia through racial and ethnic purity while the left sought the same through the elimination of economic class and those who refused to conform to political correctness. Both systems, to the degree they were enthroned, led to holocausts, forced starvations, and, in the case of the left, the murder of hundreds of millions of people worldwide. European right-wing conceptions never took root in the US to any significant degree. Nazi's, Klansmen, Aryan Na- tion, and Christian Identity, for examples, are on the fringe of American life. Concepts of theocracy and ethnic purity generally don't resonate. American ideas of progress have been to move away from such primitive socialistic conceptions. Of course, the left has gone to great lengths to exaggerate the influence of the European right here while falsely tarring the American right, which is most of us, with the European right-wing brush. European left-wing conceptions, on the other hand, have taken deep root in the US, primarily among the leisure class. The left has developed a homegrown movement connected philosophically and in some cases literally with it's Euro- pean counterpart. They have obtained enormous influence in areas such as the academe, the media, foundations, business, entertainment, and government itself. The deeply entrenched left today represents the vanguard of a European style authoritarian movement. They seek to erode religion, the family, private property, and privacy in general, replacing these with the authority of the state in an attempt to undo the spirit of the American Revolution. The American right, as opposed to the European right, opposes authoritarianism in favor of small government, liberty, and the free market. I'm proud to be right-wing if this means an insistence that the government operate strict- ly under the Constitution. I'm proud to be right-wing if this means espousing moral values, individual responsibili- ty, the family, God, and basic patriotism. Given the domi- nance of the left today, these positions are now considered to be extreme. That would make me a right-wing extremist. http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/morse/2001/feb/edcm021501.htm - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:39:52 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Klamath Falls A Call to Arms by JJ. Johnson- SierraTimes.com.htm] (fwd) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 19:45:39 +0000 From: "Charles C. Carter" Subject: Fwd: Klamath Falls A Call to Arms by JJ. Johnson- SierraTimes.com.htm] Great article below in the Sierra Times, by JJ Johnson. Isn't is a travesty that the major media reports very little about the Klamath land and water takeover by the U.S. government??? Join the Klamath convoys, you and your neighbors rent a large U-Haul, clean out your garages, closets, pantries, load up and head out to Klamath Falls, OR the weekend of Aug. 21st to save the citizens and farmers of Klamath and help get their water back to grow their crops!!!!! Pres. Bush, you need to do something!!!! Char Carter, Monterey, CA From: LIBERTYLADY@webtv.net (HELEN FRENCH) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: Klamath Falls A Call to Arms by JJ. Johnson- Sierra Times.com.htm From: "Art Sutton" Subject: Klamath Falls A Call to Arms by JJ. Johnson- Sierra Times.com.htm Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:23:26 -0400 Klamath Falls: A Call to Arms by JJ. Johnson- Sierra Times.comCan we make a differnce? Art An Internet Publication For Real Americans Home >> Editorials >> Commentary Klamath Falls: A Call to Arms By J.J. Johnson 08.09.01 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ladies and Gentlemen: We are at War. Even though this war is not being fought with bullets, there are casualties, and there will be more. The logistical operation being set in motion at this time will follows the rules of any battlefield condition. This is a test, America. The results from this phase of the battle in Klamath Falls may determine the future destiny of the Western Lands of North America and its people. The mission is clear: To provide logistical support for over 1400 encampments in a place called Klamath. There, thousands of our compatriots, battle-tested, have been involved in a struggle for their lives since April 6, 2001. They are the ones in the trenches (irrigation canals) Our goal is theirs: to resume the regular flow of irrigation water and bring life back to these farms - in the face of an enemy at the gates. Let the Convoy Roll... There are convoys preparing to depart from several states in the West. Our test will be to see if we can resupply these 'troops' for the autumn and winter campaigns against this enemy. If we are successful, our brethren on the battlefield will not be forced to abandon their camps. We are doing this not just to bring attention to the situation, but to feed, clothe and defend those who have led the fight, and have suffered greatly because of it. Let it be known that we did not start this war, but having no choice but to wage it, let us wage it well. The forces against us claim they are trying to save fish. We are trying to save humans. In our minds, the most threatened species in the Klamath Basin is man himself. This may become one of the greatest rescue and resupply operations ever - - and more important than the Historic Berlin Airlift. Let the Convoy Roll... We don't take suckers here. These dedicated warriors now loading up their gear to resupply our side of the battle lines take their own risks. Many of them leave their families and local battles at home to join what could be (if successful) a battle which will be the turning point of this war. Accidents can happen on the road. Things back home are left unattended. No one is paying them to do this. No one is ordering them to do this. These dedicated warriors are answering the call to arms. With the command and control center of this operation at the Head Gates in Klamath, those in charge pledge to deliver the supplies to where they are needed most in the Klamath Battlefield. They too stand ready for the war. If you are concerned about the ranchers and farmers in this area, and are willing to help, then you too are a warrior and welcome to join us. There will be no medals handed out, no service pay, no rank given. But victory in the battle will reap rewards unimaginable. Failure in the mission means our compatriots in the battlefield may be forced to sell their land. Most have made the statement: NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE. They need help to make that stand. Let the Convoy Roll... Our enemy at the gates is more than just a few federal agents encamped there. It is the apathy in many hearts around the nation, and those who simply disagree. For too long we have lobbied government for a solution to a problem they created. America: We have to solve this problem. We have to fight this battle. We must win this battle. As I write, those wishing to do away with the human element are petitioning the court to stop the water flow. Without a solid defense, they will succeed. We must allow those fighting on the front lines to hold that line until the waters flow freely. This can only be done with your help. We cannot even expect this call to arms to be carried by the regular media channels. We must pass the word to our friend and neighbors ourselves. I believe we can do it. I believe we can succeed. I have faith we will be victorious. Do you believe? Any donation, no matter how small, can help. Convoys may be rolling through your town en route to the battle. These are the supply lines for the Great Western Battle - the war to determine who will own the land; who will feed our fellow Americans in the future, and if American can stand on its own two feet. We must supply these troops in the field with goods and supplies now, else future generations may be force to supply more than that to troops in the field. Let the Convoy Roll... As we pray it does not come to this, we must take steps for this long term engagement. Both sides have entrenched themselves for the long fight. Our enemy uses our tax dollars, junk science, and bad law as their weapons. We must fight back with compassion and resolve in our hearts - and we must do so for the long term. This is not a new kind of war with new rules - just different rules of engagement. Posted at the Klamath Head Gates now is a cross in memory of those brave firefighters who died in Washington because they could not have the water they needed to do their jobs. All this because of the rules of engagement of our opposition. Remember them when you see the convoys roll by. We're doing this for them, and to prevent such tragedies from happening in the future. Think of the child whose school will close in the Klamath Basin. The veteran who can't pay the mortgage without water, the dying eagles in the refuge, the thousands of proud Americans forced to cry out for help. Let us not let their voices go unheard. This is War: Let us meet this challenge like the Real Americans we are. Let that Convoy Roll... This may be our one chance to let the world know that, once again, a sleeping giant has been awakened. There is at least one person wishing a thousand people could be there on August 21. There are thousands hoping at least one more person can attend. That difference is you, American. To our brethren in the Klamath Basin: You shall not stand alone. You pain is our pain. We are affected by the same bad laws and policies. Your fight is our fight. You have fought the battle bravely, and help is on the way. If that convoy comes through your town, meet and greet that convoy, giving whatever you can. If it's not coming through your town, then go find that convoy or start one of your own. Climb on board. Join up with the others. These people are not just going to a rally - they are going to war - right here on American soil. Our goal is to prove, to Washington D.C. and the world, that we are NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE. We are God's people - and as God people we must stand on our own two feet. ...and crawl before no one. Let That Convoy Roll. J.J. Johnson Previous Articles Going Corporate? 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Johnson Enterprises, Inc. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:03:03 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Go Ahead and Smile - YOU'RE Next.... (fwd) From: BOBWORN@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 01:33:53 EDT Subject: Go Ahead and Smile - YOU'RE Next.... Springfield News State takes newborn from mom Wednesday, August 8, 2001 By ROSS GRANT He was laying on my stomach, taking a pacifier. They said they were going to check his vitals and they took him.Diana M. Ross WARE Two months after a rottweiler killed her 5-year-old son while under foster care, Diana M. Ross has lost her third child to the state, just a day after he was born. Ross, 27, of Ware gave birth to 7-pound, 4-ounce Aaron Anthony Ross Sunday at 7:30 a.m. By Monday afternoon after someone complained that Ross was mistreating the newborn police arrived at Mary Lane Hospital in Ware with a court order to take him away. Social workers placed the infant with a new family immediately. "He was laying on my stomach, taking a pacifier. They said they were going to check his vitals and they took him," Ross said yesterday. "I'm barely getting any sleep. I get too upset." Ross was told that she hadn't been feeding her baby properly, and that he was going to live in a foster home with his 3-year-old brother, Damien, she said. Ross will have to wait until tomorrow to argue for the return of her child in Hampshire County Juvenile Court. The state took the newborn after a "credible source" filed a report saying the child was at risk of being abused or neglected, said Carol A. Yelverton, public affairs director for the Massachusetts Department of Social Services. Department workers brought the complaint to juvenile court, which instructed them to take the child from his mother. "We feel for her. This is a terrible situation for her and we understand that. But we are mandated to take care of the safety of children," Yelverton said. Taking a newborn child away from his mother is "very uncommon" for the department, she said. Still, in this case, Yelverton said it was justified. "It was a court order. The DSS has done its job. We have ensured the safety of a child when there were concerns raised about his safety," she said. But Ross and her high-profile Springfield lawyer, Alan R. Goodman, question the timing of the state's action. How could a mother mistreat her 1-day-old child in the protective environment of a hospital? they asked. Rather than the safety of the newborn, they think the move is the state's reaction to Ross' intention to sue it for the wrongful death of her 5-year-old child while in foster care. "This child was pulled from the loving arms of his mother," Goodman said yesterday. "This appears to be a retaliation by the state." Kyle Anthony Ross was mauled to death by a rottweiler on June 9, while under the care of his Springfield foster mother, Linda McNeil of 25 Redden St. The dog was later put to sleep. The Hampden County district attorney's office refused comment yesterday on whether any criminal charges will be filed in connection with the rottweiler attack, except to say the incident is still under investigation. But Yelverton said there is no connection between Kyle's death and the state's action this week. "We have had concerns about Ms. Ross' abilities to parent her children safely. No matter what happened in June no matter how tragic that was we have a responsibility to respond to a report if we get one," Yelverton said. "This is very serious stuff. These are not arbitrary questions. The court has to show that someone is not fit to take care of children," she said. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #460 *************************