From xmission.com!zorn-list-digest-request Sun May 19 12:31:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from xmission.xmission.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0uLEBP-0003vrC; Sun, 19 May 96 12:30 PDT Received: (from root@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id NAA00180; Sun, 19 May 1996 13:26:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 13:26:02 -0600 (MDT) From: zorn-list-digest-request@xmission.com Message-Id: <199605191926.NAA00180@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: zorn-list-digest Digest V96 #23 X-Loop: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com X-Mailing-List: archive/volume96/23 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com Status: RO ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain zorn-list-digest Digest Volume 96 : Issue 23 Today's Topics: Re: Hat prices at Tower [ "R. Lynn Rardin" ] Re: Zubi Zuva, PSF, & FW III [ john shiurba ] Re: Zubi Zuva, PSF, & FW III [ "Patrice L. Roussel" ] Re: Buckethead [ jeffs@hyperreal.com (Jeff Spirer) ] Naked Kermit City [ "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" < ] Re: Toy Factory Records [ "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" < ] Re: Naked Kermit City [ john shiurba ] Re: mr. bungle [ ANTROBUS23@aol.com ] Re: Naked Kermit City [ IOUaLive1@aol.com ] Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny [ SlapBuddha@aol.com ] Re: Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny [ Wlt4@aol.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:55:10 -0500 (EST) From: "R. Lynn Rardin" To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Hat prices at Tower Message-id: <01I4QFDMFEXE8WYKJ4@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU> Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I wrote: >>Unfortunately, the Cadence/North Country Hat Hut sale has been over for >>awhile now. But it's worth the $$ even at full price. Tower may still >>have their Hats priced cheap. It would definitely be worth checking >>there. Glenn replied: >I picked up Gerry Hemmingway's "Demon Chaser" (Hat Art) a few weeks back >for $13.99 at Tower. I believe they marked them down permanetly. At least >that's what I heard. I believe the markdown is only permanent until Bayside runs out of Hat Hut stock. At that point, Tower will have to obtain Hat CDs from another distributor like North Country and prices are sure to shoot back up when that happens. -Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 09:33:35 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" To: Damien Cassidy/Acton/NFSA Cc: zorn-list , proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: Mike Patton Question Message-Id: <9605151633.AA28455@pdx144.intel.com> On 8 May 96 10:21:41 EAT damien_cassidy@nfsa.gov.au wrote: > > >I got ADult Themes for Voice today, and it has a little bio on Mike and says > >" Mike hasworked with various ensembles and composers such as Mr. Bungle, > >Kronos Quartet, Faith No More, Bob Ostertag, Arto Lindsay, Bil Laswell, > >Boo-Yaa Tribe, Rova Saxophone Quartet, David Shea, Sepultura and John Zorn." > >I was wondering about the many projects and what was available on CD and how > >to get it all (the ones that aren't the obvious). If anyone knows, please > >post here and/or e-mail myself. Thanks. Does anybody know about the following tape? Review of a tape by Mr. Bungle in Option March/April 1987 (pp. 23): *** - THE RAGING WRATH OF THE EASTER BUNNY: Mr. Bungle (1987 (?) - Ladd-Frith (USA), ??? (CT) I don't remember any Mr. Bungle fan mentioning it and I even wonder if it is really a tape by Mike Patton's group. Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:18:00 +0000 From: john shiurba To: zorn-list Subject: Re: David Shea and other collaborators Message-ID: <3199BD68.4CF8@sfo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit N Vassiliou wrote: > > On different note, has anyone listened to volume 1 in the Sub > Rosa/Subsonic series(Fred Frith/Marc Ribot)?I am really interested to know > if it is any good. this is an interesting disc. at first i was disappointed because i thought it was going to be guitar duos, instead there's a frith solo acoustic piece and a piece for multiple overdubbed electric guitars by frith. the ribot stuff is in the vein of the "shrek" cd on avant. there's one piece where ribot simultaneously plays guitar and Eb horn. he should've gone on letterman with this. overall i'd say good, perhaps not essential. shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:22:46 +0000 From: john shiurba To: zorn-list Subject: Re: Zubi Zuva, PSF, & FW III Message-ID: <3199BE86.6432@sfo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Keffer wrote: > Lastly, Filmworks III (on Toys Factory or evva) has 56 tracks. the first > 12 are Masada, one of which has QUine playing with them and is > fantastic. There is one track of cartoon cues from "cynical hysterie > hour" or something like that. one track? so this probably isn't the same as the cbs cd of "c.h.h"? > THere are about 12 tracks of Zorn/Ribot > duets, which are also spectacular. THen there are about 30 pieces of > music for a commercial advertising firm, which are a mixed bag of tricks. > (the liner notes are in english). sounds good! shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:34:33 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" To: john shiurba Cc: zorn-list , proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: Zubi Zuva, PSF, & FW III Message-Id: <9605151834.AA23443@pdx144.intel.com> On Wed, 15 May 1996 11:22:46 +0000 shiurba@sfo.com wrote: > > Dave Keffer wrote: > > > Lastly, Filmworks III (on Toys Factory or evva) has 56 tracks. the first > > 12 are Masada, one of which has QUine playing with them and is > > fantastic. There is one track of cartoon cues from "cynical hysterie > > hour" or something like that. > > one track? so this probably isn't the same as the cbs cd of "c.h.h"? > > > THere are about 12 tracks of Zorn/Ribot > > duets, which are also spectacular. THen there are about 30 pieces of > > music for a commercial advertising firm, which are a mixed bag of tricks. > > (the liner notes are in english). > No THE ELEGANT SPANKING? Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:15:16 -0400 From: jk@ritz.mordor.com (jonathan kaye) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: summerstage Message-Id: <199605152315.TAA21603@ritz.mordor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" today's new york times listed the summerstage schedule for this summer. for those of you outside new york city, summerstage is new york's premier free concert series held on weekends in central park. included in the schedule were the following listings: july 6: yoko ono, cibo matto, john zorn's masada july 13: bill laswell with praxis, jah wobble, nicky skopelitis, the last poets many other wonderful shows but these are the most relevant to this list. jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:11:40 -0500 From: "Wilson, King of Prussia" To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: mr. bungle Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Does anybody know about the following tape? > >Review of a tape by Mr. Bungle in Option March/April 1987 (pp. 23): >*** - THE RAGING WRATH OF THE EASTER BUNNY: Mr. Bungle > (1987 (?) - Ladd-Frith (USA), ??? (CT) > >I don't remember any Mr. Bungle fan mentioning it and I even wonder if it is >really a tape by Mike Patton's group. Mr. Bungle has a few demo tapes floating around. I have "Raging Wrath" (or used to) which has mostly demo versions of songs off their first albums. The different arrangements make it worth getting, though. It has one or two new songs, including a really good song called OU818, ten minutes of pure, unreleased bungle. I have heard one other demo tape of theirs, too, but I can't recall the name. I have been told their are four tapes floating around.... read icculus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 18:45:59 -0700 From: jeffs@hyperreal.com (Jeff Spirer) To: jk@ritz.mordor.com (jonathan kaye), zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: summerstage Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 4:15 PM 5/15/96, jonathan kaye wrote: >today's new york times listed the summerstage schedule for this summer. for >those of you outside new york city, summerstage is new york's premier free >concert series held on weekends in central park. included in the schedule >were the following listings: > >july 6: yoko ono, cibo matto, john zorn's masada > >july 13: bill laswell with praxis, jah wobble, nicky skopelitis, the last poets This was called off last week but reinstated this week with a somewhat smaller crew of artists. I hope to have the exact lineup in the next few days and will post at the Axiom Web Site (URL below.) Jeff jeffs@hyperreal.com http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 23:17:18 -0400 From: IOUaLive1@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: "make the subject relevant" Message-ID: <960515231717_536190725@emout07.mail.aol.com> Allright, allright, now I am the last person who would make a suggestion on proper posting etiquette (or "netiquette", if you like), but if I open a piece of mail with the subject "crimson vs. the dowtown scene", then damnit thats what I want to read about! :) Just like a recent post with the subject "Marc Ribot", and it had nothing to do with him. I was crushed. If I reply to a post but the subject matter has completely changed, then I change the "subject". Now I sound like a whiner, but lets all comply, or else. I also hate posts that have nothing to do with the list in general, so now I must come up with something relevant to talk about.... Does anyone know how long Kermit Driscoll played in Naked City? IOUaLive1@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 23:48:44 -0400 From: PQuig99164@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: summerstage Message-ID: <960515234843_536213759@emout17.mail.aol.com> Unfortunately, Axiom (Laswell's WWW page) notes that the 7/13 Summerstage show with Praxis has been cancelled. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 00:06:10 -0400 From: SadMcBain@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Buckethead Message-ID: <960516000609_492043082@emout18.mail.aol.com> anyone know where i might be able to order Deli Creeps and Giant Robot from? I'm very very interested in them. thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 00:07:23 -0400 From: SadMcBain@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Toy Factory Records Message-ID: <960516000722_492043826@emout15.mail.aol.com> Does someone have the address/catalog/phone number/www address whree i can look and order CDs from this label? I really want to get ahold of Filmworks 3 and other cool goodies. thanks tons. matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 00:10:52 -0400 From: SadMcBain@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Mike Patton Question Message-ID: <960516001052_492046024@emout14.mail.aol.com> that would be a demo that Bungle recorded back then. i think that they sold it in San Franciscan record stores @ the time they put it out. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 00:14:26 -0400 From: SadMcBain@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Cibbo Matto/Zorn Connection Message-ID: <960516001424_492048074@emout16.mail.aol.com> I remember Matt Plinkton on Mtv's 120 Minutes mentioning somehting about John Zorn doing something with the girls known as Cibbo Matto... I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the connection there or what.... matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 23:54:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Me To: Zorn Digest Subject: Re: summerstage Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 May 1996, jonathan kaye wrote: > july 6: yoko ono, cibo matto, john zorn's masada Well now, I'm going to be in New York from July 3rd-7th (mainly to see the Mothership return on the 4th) and I was really dissapointed to find out that I would miss Laswell & Co. on the 13th. I still am, but I suppose seeing John Zorn live for the first time will make up for that. Or, to put it another way: YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! Ah, that felt good. Seven weeks from today I'm on the plane East... Thanks for the info, Paul wesley@interaccess.com Orgasming all over myself (no, not literally!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 07:10:52 -0700 From: jeffs@hyperreal.com (Jeff Spirer) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Buckethead Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >anyone know where i might be able to order Deli Creeps and Giant Robot from? >I'm very very interested in them. thanks There are no released recordings of the Deli Creeps. _Giant Robot_, the Bill Laswell-produced CD, is out of print. There may be copies available but I haven't heard of any for a while. Giant Robot, the band (Buckethead and Brain), have a pre-release cassette that is sold at Buckethead shows. There may be a CD pressed, but there is no distribution in place. Jeff jeffs@hyperreal.com http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 15:44:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" To: IOUaLive1@aol.com cc: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Naked Kermit City Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Who oh who is Kermit Driscol, and when did he play with Naked City? -jascha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 15:47:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" To: SadMcBain@aol.com cc: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Toy Factory Records Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Does someone have the address/catalog/phone number/www address whree i can > look and order CDs from this label? I really want to get ahold of Filmworks 3 > and other cool goodies. thanks tons. Yeah, i'd like to know, too. Does anyone know if FW3 will get reissued on Tzadik, or some other nice, friendly non-import label for those of us living in N.A.? -jascha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 13:08:51 +0000 From: john shiurba To: zorn-list Subject: Re: Naked Kermit City Message-ID: <319B28E3.412@sfo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n wrote: > > Who oh who is Kermit Driscol, and when did he play with Naked City? kermit driscoll was the bass player the bass player in bill frisell's group from about 85-95, and still plays with "new & used". i hadn't been aware that he was in naked city. he seems much too low key for the group, but then again you might say the same of frisell. shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 16:36:29 -0400 From: ANTROBUS23@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: mr. bungle Message-ID: <960516163628_295714764@emout15.mail.aol.com> wrath was there first demo. i just read so guy saying he had heard it and them decribed there fourth demo 0U818. there first demo is by far my favorite. it is hard core death metal with insane screaming by patton. very hard to come by. worth checking out ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 22:45:23 -0400 From: IOUaLive1@aol.com To: jwnarves@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca cc: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Naked Kermit City Message-ID: <960516224522_296027433@emout13.mail.aol.com> Yes, Kermit was the bassist in Bill Frisell's various bands over the last decde. In my opinion he is a very underated player. I know that he played with Naked City at the Saalfelden Jazz fest on 8/26/88. But they also played festivals in Europe a few months after that and Frith was there, so I guess Kermit just filled in? Or maybe 8/88 was around the time Naked City first played live and Kermit was the first bassist.. IOUaLive1@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 04:05:13 -0400 From: SlapBuddha@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Message-ID: <960517040512_492886809@emout19.mail.aol.com> Yes this is indeed a demo tape by Mr. Bungle. I've heard it, but on a intolerably bad bootleg. I believe this was the first Bungle demo. The music is death metal mostly, at incredible speeds, with some ska, yet like most Bungle it's all irreverent. I 've read interviews with the band about this period, and they said one of their main objectives with death metal music was to piss people off and start fights. Here's the list of tracks as I have seen it: Grizzly Adams Anarchy Up Your Anus Thighs of Death Hypocrite Evil Satan (which also appears on the Bowel of Chiley demo) Bunglegrind Raping So, to answer your question, yes it is real. On another note, has anybody heard David Shea's Tower of Mirrors? I'd like some more info on that. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 15:21:03 -0400 From: Wlt4@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Message-ID: <960519152102_304631325@emout13.mail.aol.com> If this is the tape i'm thinking of, it was released by Ladd/Frith in the mid-80s and is not a demo but a tape-only release. The L/F label was one of numerous cassette labels (aka home tapers, etc) that thrived then. Lang Thompson http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm -------------------------------- End of zorn-list-digest Digest V96 Issue #23 ********************************************