From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #103 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Monday, July 17 2000 Volume 01 : Number 103 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 11:24:38 -0600 From: "Terry L Jeffress" Subject: Re: [AML] Review Archive Announcement Richard Johnson wrote: > It is not a big deal, but I don't appear on the list of reviewers at all. > One of my reviews _Statehood_ is there, but in the early days of the list I > reviewed four or five books. One of them was _Before the Blood Tribunal_ > one of the books about the young men in Germany at the beginning of the > war; one was an Anne Perry novel. I'm scratching my head about the others > because they were done before my retirement on a machine that belonged to > the university, and, in order to find the titles I will have to schlepp > through a pile of zip disks with which I backed up my old computer, and my > lack of memory was one of the incentives I had to retire. The archive contains three reviews by "Richard B. Johnson": _The Gathering_ by Maurine Proctor _Statehood_ by Marilyn Brown _A Sudden Fearful Death_ by Anne Perry I just downloaded the entire AML-List archive (61MB) and searched for Wobbe's _Before the Blood Tribunal._ I found sample pages, but no review by you, Richard. If you do come across that review, please post it to the list again, and I will gladly archive it. Since I now have the list archive on my machine, I can quickly search for any missing reviews you might report, so just send me a quick note with your name and either the title or author of the work you reviewed. I'll look for it in the archive and report back to you. I have decided that I will scour the list archive to make sure that all reviews have been represented. This might take some time -- it took us 6 years to produce all that text. I'm sure that Benson has scanned the archives several times for reviews, but I'll see what else I can find. - -- Terry Jeffress - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 11:32:15 -0600 From: "Cathy Wilson" Subject: [AML] Vitality Expo [MOD: Sorry this didn't get out earlier.] This is so unliterary that it probably doesn't qualify for AML-List, but it's worth a try. . . This weekend is a Vitality Expo at the Salt Palace. I'll be there doing a book signing for my book on essential oils, called _Simple and Essential_. I'm also going to give two sessions, one at 11 on Saturday and one at 1 on Sunday, called "Choosing A Health Modality." I know this sounds dry but I hope it's going to be fun and elegant and scintillating and. . . .ah well. . . . Cathy (Gileadi) Wilson Editing Etc. 15 East 600 North Price UT 84501 - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:12:03 -0700 From: Jeff Needle Subject: Re: [AML] Review Archive Announcement >> 1. Jeff Needle (35) >> 2. R. W. Rasband (25) >> 3. Harlow Clark (23) >> 4. Katie Parker (14) >> 5. D. Michael Martindale (11) >> 6. Benson Parkinson (11) > >I don't suppose I can convince Jeff to quit reading until I pass him >into first place, can I? Hee hee hee. Probably not. My life situation right now is that I have more time than ever to read, so I guess I'll keep going. Sorry about that. I should make a statement here about how grateful I am to everyone in AML and here on list for their welcome over the years. As a non-member, it's been a wonderful experience to read so many good LDS works, and to share ideas here about these books. I really have learned so much from all of you. My appreciation is great. - --------------- Jeff Needle jeff.needle@general.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: (No, or invalid, date.) From: "Marilyn & William Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Re: Writing About Religion Sorry, but I must ask--were you in an accident, Eric? So sorry about the = pain killers.( Well, so sorry about the pain, and hoping the killers are = killing it and not you.) Marilyn Brown - ---------- > Eric Samuelsen (who is on lots of painkillers right now, so inclined = to > ramble.) > - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:03:46 -0600 From: "Bruce Grant" Subject: [AML] eBook Query Dear List, I need to pub a textbook on Chinese (Sino-Korean) Characters, for members of my classes. The best format for it is electronic, eBook perhaps, because of its length and complexity, and because only several dozen will sell each year. Adobe Acrobat with Web Buy and Adobe PDF Merchant would keep the book from being copied illegally, but PDF Merchant costs a cool $5,000. Microsoft's MS Reader is not yet available for PCs, and I don't know what MS's equivalent of PDF Merchant will cost. Have any answers? Thanks. Bruce Grant - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: (No, or invalid, date.) From: "Marilyn & William Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] What Can AML-List Do for Me? So yea! I need some novels to publish this next year (at least one). I = can do it almost painlessly. And a good job, too. So we'll talk sometime.= MB - ---------- > Marilyn Brown wrote: > > > I am SO MUCH looking forward to seeing your novel. I am > > always hungry to read a good novel written by a Mormon I > > trust. If nobody wants to publish it, let Salt Press do > > it. Okay? Marilyn Brown > > Uh oh, the pressure's on now! What if you don't like it? > > If my novel ends up being rejected by everyone because they think there > isn't a big enough audience for it (as opposed to they think it's > garbage) I was planning on self-publishing through some print-on-demand > thing. Letting Salt Press do it would be much preferable, since > self-publishing is still considered suspect. > > -- > D. Michael Martindale > dmichael@wwno.com > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Check out Worldsmiths, the new online LDS writers group, at > http://www.wwno.com/worldsmiths > > Sponsored by Worlds Without Number > http://www.wwno.com > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > - > AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature > http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm > - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:14:00 EDT From: Larry Jackson Subject: [AML] Review Archive Announcement Michael Martindale: I don't suppose I can convince Jeff to quit reading until I pass him into first place, can I? _______________ Maybe a church calling would slow him down a bit? :-> <-: :-> Larry Jackson (Just funnin' here. Let's not restart the "convert Jeff" thread again.) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:03:55 -0600 From: "Annette Lyon" Subject: [AML] Great Authors After reading Tony Markham's post about who he considers to be the top 4 greatest writers, I'm curious about what others think. (About his list and about who they personally think is great.) I can agree with Tony that Shakespeare and Milton are two of the greatest writers of all time. But Yeats and Faulker? Give me a break. Sure, Yeats has some great poetry, but I don't think he is in the same league as Milton. (I think Wordsworth and Tennyson are far better.) And Faulkner is so long winded that I've always been surprised how much acclaim he gets. My gosh, almost the entire first page of _The Unvanquished_ was ONE sentence! Try writing those kinds of sentences and see if any editor will give you anything but a printed rejection slip. Faulkner did deal with some real issues, and his Yoknapatawpha County (sp?) is very real for many readers, but that doesn't make him one of the four greatest writers of all time. A good writer, maybe. In the top ten? Not even close. Another thought--since styles and perspectives change, how can we really pick the best "of all time" when we're stuck in our own views of what works today, in the year 2000? What worked well in 1800 didn't even sixty years later (think Jane Austen versus Charles Dickens, but both considered great authors of their day). Someone mentioned the opinion the _The Great Gatsby_ was considered good at the time because it appealed to the short attention span of its current audience. So what makes an author great? Longevity? The effect on the culture/world at large? Skill at producing the current style or appealing to the current audience? Somehow I don't like any of those possibilities. Annette Lyon ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:13:27 -0600 From: "Annette Lyon" Subject: [AML] Genre It seems to me that genre classification is sometimes arbitrary, that while some books clearly follow certain boundaries and conventions and can easily sit in a certain genre, others don't, yet are categorized in the same way. The discussion of _Tathea_ makes this point: it's been shelved with mysteries and fantasies, and yet it doesn't fully fit either description. In my own experience, I had to laugh at two rejection letters I received for the SAME manuscript: one editor said that the competition in my genre, romance, was extra fierce, but keep trying. The other suggested I try my hand at the romance genre. Go figure. In my mind, the book wasn't a romance, but it did have a romantic element. In the LDS market, it seems that if a book has even a glimpse of a romantic relationship, it is classified at a romance. The biggest example is Rachel Nunes's _Ariana_ series, which the "Romance Lady" picks all the time, yet the focus of the books is not romance. (Take the first book: yes, she eventually finds a great guy and marries him, but he doesn't even show up until the last third of the book, after Ariana has dealt with drugs, death, and a whole host of other issues, none of which are "romantic". The major theme of the second book is AIDS, yet it is still classified as a romance. Whatever. ) Perhaps the books sell better with the romance label. Just a thought Annette Lyon ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:14:53 -0600 (MDT) From: katie@www.aros.net Subject: [AML] Re: ADAMS, _Prodigal Journey_ Quoting Linda Adams : > I wrote: > >I am much more a character-based than plot-based author, and I don't like > >wading through long descriptions or paragraphs of philosophy any more than > > >the next person, so there isn't too much of that in it either. > > Ack! What a horrible run-on sentence. I meant, not too many descriptive or > philosophical passages. There IS a plot. Yes, there really is! Whoops! > Yeah, I was going to chime in something to this effect too. Don't let Linda fool you! This book has *quite* a plot! Congratulations to both Linda and Richard! If this book is any indication of what Cornerstone will produce, I think I'm going to have to read everything it comes out with. This is really exciting, guys. - --Katie Parker - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #103 ******************************