From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #179 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Wednesday, October 25 2000 Volume 01 : Number 179 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:18:26 -0700 From: "Christopher Bigelow" Subject: [AML] Mormon Writers' Conference The Association for Mormon Letters is pleased to announce our Second Annual MORMON WRITERS' CONFERENCE November 4, 2000 Utah Valley State College, Student Center Orem, Utah Featuring seminars on fiction, nonfiction, film and theater, the craft of writing, poetry, music, and more, plus some special performances (Scroll to the end of this message for info on registering in advance or at the door. Please forward this message to anyone who might be interested.) 9:00 Extending the Culture Plenary session with Gideon Burton, Neal Kramer, and Eric Eliason 10:00 Breakout sessions: Is it okay to write about God? Personal essay Songwriting Characterization and dialogue Literature readings 11:00 Breakout sessions: LDS fiction: What's the next phase? Writing family histories Poetry: What's the point when no one reads the stuff? 1,000 ideas in an hour 12:00 Lunch break (optional lunch available) 1:00 Plenary session with novelist Dean Hughes 2:00 Breakout sessions: Faith meets fantasy: The Harry Potter syndrome Self-publishing and electronic publishing Appealing to the LDS audience Plot and structure Performance: "I Am Jane" 3:00 Breakout sessions: Historical fiction Separating gospel from culture: How to criticize LDS culture without losing your temple recommend Writing scripts for film and theater How to publish the next LDS blockbuster Literature readings 4:00 Extending the Depth and Breadth of Our Culture Plenary session with Margaret Young and Darius Gray - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ADVANCE REGISTRATION (Print and mail this form) ( ) Yes, please register me for the Mormon writers' conference on November 4. I've enclosed $30 (or $25 for full-time students and AML members) ( ) I would like to join other conference participants for lunch. I've enclosed an additional $10. ( ) Please send me a sample copy of IRREANTUM, the AML's literary quarterly. I've enclosed $4, which includes postage. (The current 96-page issue features in-depth, intimate interviews with filmmaker Richard Dutcher and novelist Robert Van Wagoner, as well as fiction, poetry, reviews, literary news, and more.) NOTE: Registration at the door for the conference will be $35. Your name and address: ______________________________ ______________________________ ______________________________ Please make check payable to the AML and mail to: AML, 262 S. Main, Springville, UT 84663. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:09:44 -0400 From: "Debra L. Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] What Lies Beneath - The Movie Is this statement the same as saying there is no such thing as a bad Shania Twain song? Debbie Brown - ----- Original Message ----- From: Thom Duncan To: Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:01 PM Subject: RE: [AML] What Lies Beneath - The Movie > For the record. > > No film in which Michelle Pfeiffer stars can ever stink. > > Thom Duncan - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:29:31 EDT From: "Rex Goode" Subject: Re: [AML] What Lies Beneath - The Movie Cathy, Not that it's often good to be formulaic about things, but the old gothic romance formula specifically calls for the elements you didn't like about the movie. I, too, normally dislike wimpy women in movies, but a gothic romance like "What Lies Beneath" is not a gothic romance without a woman trying, sometimes ineptly, to unravel the secret of a big old house. She must be confused about the source of the evil. In fact, she almost MUST be wrong until the end. Usually, she mistrusts the wrong man. All characters in a gothic romance must be brooding, not just the houses. I thought Harrison Ford brooded well. Pity that the old gothic romances gave way to the new smutty romances. I was glad to see a short-lived comeback. As a teenager, I would often feign superior intelligence over characters in scary movies, but then more recently came to realize that the only reason I thought I'd be smarter in the same circumstance was that I was watching the movie and knew more than the characters knew. My kids do the same thing I did. Rex Goode _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:55:09 -0600 From: "Thom Duncan" Subject: RE: [AML] What Lies Beneath - The Movie >Gory movies are trash. Yes and no. As a guilty viewer of every Halloween and Friday the 13th movie, I am not going to make any attempt to defend them as quality movies (except the first Halloween, genre creator that it was.) These kinds of movies are usally plotless, poorly acted, and poorly directed. But at a certain technical level, they can be entertaining. (How did they make that guy's head explode?) Other than those technical aspects, I'll agree that gore films are pretty much useless. Thom Duncan - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Snow Subject: Re: [AML] What Lies Beneath - The Movie Cathy wrote: <> Actually, I disagree. I think there was sufficient sneaky foreshadowing that he would be a diabolical creep. Consider the following: (i) plenty of clues he was an egomanical workaholic who neglected his wife (in other words, pure evil), (ii) he even had his laptop in bed with him, typing away to win a Nobel prize or something, while his wife sought some relationship building chit-chat (heinous), (iii) he demanded that his wife say how wonderful he was (Hitler used to do this to Maria Braun, I'm sure of it), (iv) he was working on some yellow, goopy pharmacuetical (Ibsen's gun on the wall that would sooner or later go off!!) that immobilized mice (post-Stuart Little--this is a dead give-away!), and (v) when his wife assumed the dead women's personna, Ford "kicked" her into the air and onto the floor (not a very considerate thing to do--you should first try to repeat what the possessed person's point of view is so that they know you understand them, then you let them know how it makes *you* feel). Ed Snow ===== Among best sellers, Barnes & Noble ranks _Of Curious Workmanship: Musings on Things Mormon_ in its top 100 (thousand, that is). Available now at 10% off http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=5SLFMY1TYD&mscssid=HJW5QQU1SUS12HE1001PQJ9XJ7F17G3C&srefer=&isbn=1560851368 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:31:58 -0500 From: Jonathan Langford Subject: [AML] Published Books by AML Event Authors Folks, I've had inquiries from a bookstore owner who's scrambling to get books ordered in for the AML conference (Margy Layton, of The Read Leaf in Springville). She wanted to know if any of the following have actual published books she can order so they'll be available for selling. I'll compile the responses and forward them to her. Scott Bronson Richard Dutcher Shanna Nelson Scott Parkin Elbert Peck Steven Kapp Perry (anything besides CDs and sheet music? Is he the same Steve Perry that might have written a Star Wars novel?) Natalie Prado Eric Snider Sally Taylor Emily Watts Jonathan Langford AML-List Moderator - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:01:40 -0400 From: Richard Johnson Subject: Re: [AML] Mormon Music At 10:07 AM 10/24/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Richard says: > >That said, I have a stack of MoTab albums which I play >often-especially in >the Christmas season. I have one recording which no one else seems >to have >of the MoTab singing Beetoven's Ninth and it is breathtaking. (Among >my >very favorite choral works is the Ninth, and _Carmina Burana_-- I >think I >would kill for a MoTab _Carmina Burana_ with a good orchestra.). I > >Roy responds: > >With all due respect, I disagree. Unfortunately the choir sang under >the direction of Eugene Ormandy, who conducted the Ninth like he was >conducting a funeral dirge. Of course that was typical Ormandy. It is >THE most awful rendition my ears have ever been subjected to (except >for a $1.99 version I picked up at Media Play). While the choir does >some things well, most of the time they sound like the Lennon Sisters, >everything sounds like everything else they do. > Diferent strokes for different folks. That's what my whole post was really about. Richard B. Johnson Husband, Father, Grandfather, Puppeteer, Playwright, Writer, Director, Actor, Thingmaker, Mormon, Person, Fool I sometimes think that the last persona is the most important http://www2.gasou.edu/commarts/puppet/ Georgia Southern University Puppet Theatre - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:26:46 -0600 From: "D. Michael Martindale" Subject: Re: [AML] E-books renatorigo wrote: > What do you think about the e-books revolution into the > publishing market? > Do you have this in the US? All over the place. Whether it will ever catch on is open to heated debate. For years computer experts have been predicting something like the Internet connecting everyone in the world together. It kept not happening and not happening, then suddenly WHAMMO! In a couple years everyone was on the Internet. E-books have been another big prediction that has stubbornly refused to come true. It may still not become popular for years. But I wouldn't discount it, even though right now it appears that e-books will never replace regular books. The right combination of things could come together to suddenly make e-books all the rage, like HTML, easy-to-use web browsers, and visually interesting web page design came together to make the Internet suddenly popular. Personally, I don't think the right combination is pending yet. Not for books, anyway. Short stories perhaps. - -- D. Michael Martindale dmichael@wwno.com ================================== Check out Worldsmiths, the new online LDS writers group, at http://www.wwno.com/worldsmiths Sponsored by Worlds Without Number http://www.wwno.com ================================== - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #179 ******************************