From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #283 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Tuesday, March 20 2001 Volume 01 : Number 283 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:03:39 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Satire Very interesting Craig. Are you new on the list? Can you tell us a bit more about yourself. I'm interested! Thanks for responding to Jacob's post. Marilyn Brown - ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Huls To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [AML] Satire [snip] > > To get back to the Lord's sense of humor. He called me out of a Bar to put me in > as a counselor in a Branch Presidency. I thought that was funny! It changed my > life. Later I worked with alcoholics in a ward, with first hand experience. > Where would I have been if God did not have a sense of humor? I shudder to > think. I believe we need to encourage all to think, satire does that. Perhaps we > should warn the audience first. > > > Craig Huls - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:06:10 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry This is great that you got her agreement, Chris! I for one would just like to know how she joined the church. I mean I think that might be a part of the interview--even her testimony, etc. Marilyn Brown - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:18:07 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Utah Arts Council Writing Competition Hooray! Congratulations to LuAnn Steheli and Paul Rawlins, whose names we recognize! Wonderful! Marilyn Brown - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:20:36 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Where's the Little Brown? Thank you, Scott. I get my lefts and rights mixed up all the time. Bless you! Marilyn - ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Tarbet To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 1:15 PM Subject: RE: [AML] Where's the Little Brown? > > Thanks for asking, Travis. It's the Little Brown Theatre, 239 S. Main in > > Springville. Take Exit 263, go east, stop and Main street and > > turn right for > > one and one half blocks. Come! You'll love it! Marilyn Brown > > Minor detail: when you get to Main Street turn LEFT (rather than > right) and go north one and a half blocks. The Little Brown Theatre is a > storefront on the right (east) side of the street. > > -- Scott Tarbet (Van Daan) - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:53:32 -0500 From: "Tracie Laulusa" Subject: RE: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry When I first started reading Anne Perry, it was her Charlotte and Thomas Pitt ones I read. In fact, that's how I figured out she was LDS. One novel centered around a woman (dead) who had been involved in a new religion. The C & T ones are dark as well. It is their enduring relationship that help lighten the tone somewhat. At least as I remember them. Tracie - -----Original Message----- Maybe the Charlotte and Thomas Pitt books are less dismal. I haven't tried them. I'm kind of afraid to. You all know I'm not a fan of the dark, dreary, dismal, and depressing in literature. barbara hume - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:01:23 -0800 From: "LauraMaery (Gold) Post" Subject: [AML] Mormon Reading of Poetry (was: Satire) >> I wonder how 'mainstream' Mormon >> readers would respond to the poem these days. Scott Tarbet responds: >"Mainstream" Mormon readers don't read poetry longer than would fit into a >greeting card. Are you distinguishing LDS readers from some other group? Hockey players, perhaps? Three-legged people? Dog breeders? Presbyterians? Just curious why you'd specify mainstream Mormons in an accusation that -- in my experience -- applies univerally. Moreover, blaming Mormons -- or anyone else -- for not reading something that hasn't been popular -- or even available -- since Longfellow's time seems a bit odd. Do you know any sane person who's been producing fabulous must-read book-length poetry in the past couple of years? - --lmg, greeting-card reader - --------- WHAT DO WE DO? We homeschool! Here's how: "Homeschool Your Child for Free." Order your copy today, from Amazon.com. - --------- . - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:05:21 -0600 From: James Picht Subject: Re: [AML] Brent HUGH, _Music of the Human Genome_ on Wired Brent Hugh wrote: > Right now, my recent composition "Music of the Human Genome" is at #32 out > of Mp3.com's approx. 1,000,000 MP3 tracks. Is this, perchance, the same music based on the human genome that was featured on NPR's morning news program? Jim Picht - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:32:55 -0700 From: LuAnnStaheli Subject: Re: [AML] Utah Arts Council Writing Competition Andrew, Yes. These were the winners for 2000. Thanks for noticing! Lu Ann B. Staheli Andrew Hall wrote: > I found this list of winners of the 42nd Utah Arts Council writing > competition on their web site. I assume these are for 2000. I recognize a > few of the names as peole we have seen before in the Mormon lit world, > including Kroupa, Staheli, Rawlins, and Fisher. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:22:48 -0700 From: LuAnnStaheli Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules Stephen King says he writes 10 pages a day every day until his current project has been rough drafted. He starts in the morning and doesn't stop until his quota is done. In his book On Writing he suggests a part-time writer might try five pages a day. I've been trying to write 5 pages a day while my 9th grade students are writing and so far it's gone fairly well. I missed a day or two, but last week I wrote 11 pages in one day! The new project is up to 68 pages already. He also suggests you only give yourself one season (three months) to finish a rough draft of a book. He feels it keeps the project fresh. When it comes right down to it though, the way we write is as unique as the things we write. Lu Ann Staheli - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:41:07 -0500 From: "Eric D. Dixon" Subject: Re: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry Chris wrote: >Go ahead and respond to the list in case your question ideas spark other >ideas. I will compile the questions for Anne's response. I'd like to give >the questions to her soon, so don't delay. I've always been curious to find out whether she saw _Heavenly Creatures_, and what her reaction was. For those who don't know, this film is an account of a friendship Perry had as a child in New Zealand in which she and her friend killed her friend's mother after finding out they were going to be separated. It's an amazing film, one of my favorites, and was directed by Peter Jackson, who's also directing the upcoming _Lord of the Rings_ film trilogy -- and Perry was portrayed by Kate Winslet (her first real film role, three years before _Titanic_). But from what I understand, a lot of the script was guesswork and artistic license, so I'd like to hear Perry's take. It would be interesting to see if this episode in her life is one of the reasons she chose writing murder mysteries as a career, and particularly interesting to see how or whether it played a role in bringing her to the church later in life. On the other hand, I would imagine there's a good chance she won't want to talk about it at all. Eric D. Dixon "And when the milkman comes leave him a note in the bottle Penguin dust, bring me penguin dust, I want penguin dust" -- Gregory Corso - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:01:53 -0800 (PST) From: William Morris Subject: Re: [AML] Richard Dutcher Interview >From the Richard Dutcher interview: "There's an idealism that I struggle with also. I think in our hearts we are all striving for the City of Enoch or Zion-which has to be an adult re-creation of the Eden we lost. I think there are a lot of people who really want to be a part of that Zion. There's a certain sadness that comes from being a part of a society where that's not really possible." I have mixed feelings about this observation. On the one hand, I think that I know what Dutcher is speaking about and believe that it could be a rich vein for Mormon literature to mine. The desire for Zion, the demands of the world---create a whole range of responses in Mormons. Exploring the reasons for and the ultimate ends of these responses could make for fascinating, vibrant reading, especially in a long-form text like the novel. On the other hand, this sadness, this yearning reminds me too much of all those sensitive young artists in literature who get crushed by the world----Goethe's _The Sorrows of Young Werther_ would be the prototype---because they live too much in the ideal (of beauty, of art) they construct, and it all falls to pieces when reality breaks rudely in. So my question is: Is there a way to deal with this sadness that Dutcher is speaking about without falling into the old dichotomies, the dashed Utopian dreams (either works that are already out there, or theories about how they could be produced)? ~~William Morris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:43:22 -0800 From: "Rachel Ann Nunes" Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules Okay! You convinced me. I'll tell ALL my deep, dark secrets about how I get my writing done. This is going to be one long e-mail, so beware. Keep in mind that I'm writing this at after midnight, and that I've been known to say funny (odd) things when I'm tired. Basically, I do my writing first thing in the morning after my husband takes the three oldest of our five children to school. I don't bother with the dishes or the laundry or ANYTHING else until I get my work done. The only exception is that I do stop to comfort, feed, play with, diaper my two little boys who are still at home. I don't answer the phone, respond to e-mail, or even get dressed. Many times I pick my children up at school and I'm still in my pajamas. So what? If you had a "real" job, you'd have to do it each day, and it's the same with writing. A regular time and a word (not time) goal can help you achieve wonders. Forget rearranging the desk or wiping off the counter. You can do that later. (Or better yet, get someone else to do it.) If I had no interruptions, I could finish writing in two hours, but it usually takes me five with all the times I stop to take care of the little ones. If I forget my rule and post on a e-mail list or answer the phone, or decide to go for a spontaneous walk with the boys, I might have to leave the computer on until three when I pick up my children from school. If not, I could have time to run to the store or the post office before I have to collect them. (Yes, I would change out of the pajamas for this, but not for the bank because they have a drive-up.) If I organize my day in this way, there is plenty of time for cleaning, homework, and hobbies after the older children come home. It's important also to delegate. I know you can clean, cook, and doing almost everything else in the house better than your children (and probably your husband), but DON'T DO IT. Give your children chores and allow your husband do his share. I have to pause here and add a disclaimer since my husband always does his share, or more. He's also a great cook, while I burn almost everything I make. Since I'm home, though, I'm the one who usually throws the meal together. The entire family cleans up together after dinner. So where was I? Oh yes, delegation. My eleven-year-old son cleans two of our bathrooms and the TV room every day. My nine-year-old daughter sweeps the kitchen and entryway and then spot-mops the tile. Our other daughter who's seven cleans the playroom, the mudroom, and puts away the clean dishes. Our four-year-old helps with the playroom and organizes the toys I have in a corner of my office. All of them clean their own rooms and fold and put away their own laundry. Yes, even the four-year-old. This basically leaves everything looking clean except the counter which is my domain.(I hate anything on the counters!) To top off the week, on Saturday we all spend two to three hours cleaning the entire house together. This is when we show the kids how chores are really supposed to be done during the week. Dresser tops, closets (in bedrooms), the garage, bathtubs, and infrequently used rooms in the house are also included. We feel that learning to work in this manner is an important part of our children's education. And guess what? The children really do a good job. They didn't at first years ago, and it was very difficult to teach them responsibility, but I don't have to worry about the house now. I even have time to dust the piano on Saturdays. The point is, you have to write. Even when the words aren't coming. I firmly believe that until you actually have enough on computer to tempt the muse, he won't be visiting with great ideas. About the ideas not keeping you awake at night as they once did. That could be a problem. Perhaps try thinking about the story after you get into bed at night. Plot out a direction to see where the story might go, or create a dialog in your mind. Keep pencil and paper handy just in case you get a new idea you're afraid of forgetting, but mostly use this time to encourage your subconscious to work on the problem/plot while you sleep. Then in the morning, you are raring to go. Hopefully. Now I'm going to include some tips here that are on my website. You can't imagine how many people ask me how I find the time to write, so I posted a few suggestions on-line. I actually added a few and expanded as I went through them tonight before sending this to the list. These tips may or may not apply to you, depending on where you are at in your writing career. I also have some tips for avoiding writer's block on my website. To see them visit http://www.rachelannnunes.com and click on "For aspiring writers." Good luck ladies (and gentlemen). I hope something I've said helps. If you have any specific questions or need clarification, I'd be willing to answer as long as my writing goal is finished for the day! By Rachel Ann Nunes A big misconception people have is that you have to have a lot of free time to write. Ha! What it takes is weeding out the unnecessary stuff in your life so you can make time for writing. I know many talented people, both men and women, who say they long to write but don't (not even a little) because of family or work concerns. They think that someday they'll have time, someday they'll get it done. The truth is that your kids'll grow up, but you'll still be busy. Your deadlines at work aren't suddenly going to change. If you want to write, YOU MUST WRITE--even if only a few minutes a day. Children can learn to respect your few hours at the computer, especially if they know you're there for them if they really need you. Or if you're employed outside the home, maybe you can get up earlier in the morning to write before you go to work. The rewards will far outweigh the loss of sleep. I think a lot of reluctance people have is the fear of failure. I know that for me, it was very frightening to stare at that first blank computer screen and realize that now I had no excuses. I would fail or succeed. Remember that if you don't try, you've already failed. And make it a good try, not some half-hearted wimpy thing. If you don't give up, you will succeed. Try these timesaving tips: 1. Don't waste time doing things that others can do for themselves. A. Grocery shopping. Your spouse might be able to get it done a lot quicker on the way home from work. B. Ironing. Send it out, let your spouse do it, or wear it wrinkled. C. Children should learn to clean up after themselves. 2. Put your priorities in line. A. Who cares if the floor needs to be mopped or your oil changed? Get your writing done first when you are fresh and then do the things that don't take much thought or inspiration. B. Dinners can be quick and nutritious. C. The bottom line is what you care most about will get taken care of. So ask yourself, what do you care about most? 3. Don't waste time doing things NO ONE should do. For example, wasting time on the Internet, e-mail, or especially watching TV. The average person spends seven entire years of their life watching TV. Can you believe that? Think of everything you could do in seven years! Incredible. Successful people rarely waste time watching TV. 4. Let things go that don't really matter. For instance, I've decided that it's okay for my small children to dress themselves in mismatched clothes while they're in the house. As long as they're clean and we're not going anywhere, what does it matter? And I no longer worry about things I can't change. It's not worth my time. 5. Wear modest pajamas when you are writing. This way you don't need to interrupt your writing time to get dressed if someone pops in or if you have to make a quick errand. And women carry an extra set of makeup in your purse. 6. Learn to say no when it infringes upon your writing time. 7. Tell people you are writing so they will let you write. This also gives you more incentive to actually write. 8. Tell people about your deadline--even if it's a personal deadline. You must respect your time so that others will also. 9. Don't answer your phone or check your e-mail while you're writing. Don't waste writing time cleaning your screen or doing anything but writing. 10. Set a word count goal for first drafts and page goals for rewriting. Then stick to it. These goals must be realistic yet also inspiring. Spencer W. Kimball once said, "A goal never written is only a wish." So even if your goal is later adjusted, set a goal. I use a goal sheet for each book, on which I have daily, weekly, and entire book goals clearly stated, as well as space to write what I actually accomplish. 11. Don't ever give up. 12. Never write on Sundays. Never. 13. Pray. Tell your Father what your goals are and ask him to help you reach them. Oh, a few more comments. I do take Fridays off if I've already reached my weekly goal. If I didn't, I DON'T force myself make up for it the next week. I do keep it in mind and try to write accordingly, though, because I still have my overall book goal to shoot for. "Write accordingly" means maybe a hundred or so extra words for the next few weeks. Or maybe I need to readjust my end goal slightly. In the summer I often have much lower goals so that I can spend more time at the pool or the park with my children. I don't grow a garden except for a few tomatoes bushes (my husband plants other things which I don't take care of), and yes, my flowerbeds are pitifully bare. Lastly, it took me two years to buy curtains for our front room (we call it the piano room), but since I've never gotten around to buying a couch or chairs for the room either, we never really cared. See, it's all a matter of priorities. If it doesn't say Mommy and it's not a deadline, it can probably wait. Rachel _______________________ Rachel Ann Nunes (noon-esh) Best-selling author of the Ariana series and This Time Forever Web page: http://www.rachelannnunes.com E-mail: rachel@rachelannnunes.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:50:17 -0800 (PST) From: Stacy Burton Subject: [AML] Re: Questions for Anne Perry Perry has two Victorian series. The Monk/Latterly series begins in the 1850s, the Pitt series in the 1880s. Perry's command of historical context is impressive. If the books are at times grim, I think it is because she's writing about crime (and, often, related hypocrisy) in nineteenth-century London. Their most insistent themes, I would argue, are about faith in the value of honest human relationships and in the possibility of a society in which all citizens have equal rights. The Pitt series is decidedly lighter in tone, the Monk/Latterly series richer in terms of social complexity. Stacy Burton - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:06:30 -0700 From: Christopher Bigelow Subject: [AML] AML Awards (Deseret News) >From the Deseret News, Sunday, March 18, 2001: Pres. Hinckley wins award for book President Gordon B. Hinckley of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints recently received the 2000 Award in the Essay from the Association for Mormon Letters for his book, "Standing For Something." The award was given at the association's annual conference last month at Westminster College. The literary group commended President Hinckley's unflinching stand on moral issues and the unprecedented phenomenon of an LDS Church leader's book achieving national renown and discussion across the United States. Accepting the award for President Hinckley was his daughter, Virginia Pearce. The Association for Mormon Letters, celebrating its 25th year, also honored playwright Margaret Young for her play, "I Am Jane," about early African-American Latter-day Saint Jane Manning James. She was also recognized for her novel, co-written by Darius Gray, "One More River to Cross," the first book of a trilogy relating the history of African-American Latter-day Saints. Other awards were given in devotional literature to Patricia Holland for "A Quiet Heart"; in short fiction to Darrell Spencer for "Caution: Men in Trees" (also a winner of the prestigious Flannery O'Connor Award); in filmmaking to Richard Dutcher for "God's Army"; and in literary criticism to Benson Parkinson for pioneering electronic discussion of Mormon literature. In addition, literary critic Richard H. Cracroft was given lifetime membership for his many years of contributions to reviewing and promoting Mormon writings. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:24:52 -0700 From: "D. Michael Martindale" Subject: [AML] Last of the Red-Hot Mormon Lovers With Eugene England being on our minds recently, I have wondered about the girl long ago I had the hots for whose last name was England. I'm about eight-five percent sure her first name was Kathy. There can't be that many England's in the country, cane there? It's an unusual surname. I wondered if they might be related somehow. Kathy England was a girl I crossed paths with a few times while growing up in Minnesota. It was around 1970, and she lived in a little town called Northfield, I believe, and attended a small branch of the church there. She had an exotic look to her--especially her eyes--that appealed to me greatly. Being the sniveling coward around girls that I was back then, I did nothing about my attraction. Jump to 2001. At the AML conference I picked up Gideon Burton's collection of Eugene England essays called "Why the Church Is As True As the Gospel." (The title essay, by the way, is a remarkably insightful eye-opener to the inspired organization of the Church.) As I read the first essay this morning, I came across this passage: "In 1970 I accepted a position as Dean of Academic Affairs at St. Olaf, a Lutheran liberal arts college in the small town of Northfield, Minnesota, and within a week of arriving was called as president of the little Latter-day Saint branch in that area." I about fell out of my chair. I don't know how you could clinch something better than this, except to also verify that Eugene has a daughter named Kathy (does he?) So I was in love with the daughter of Eugene England all those years ago? And this on the heels of confessing to AML-List about my crush on the daughter of the recently deceased Karl Sandberg somewhere around the same time period in the same state? What is it with me, Minnesota, and the daughters of prominent figures in LDS literature? Is this some kind of bizarre coincidence, or some equally bizarre synchronicity of fate that was foreshadowing my future involvement in LDS literature? I'm going to have to investigate what other prominent figures lived in Minnesota in the late 60's, early 70's, and which of them had attractive daughters of adolescent age at the time. If I find any, I'll better dollars to (Krispy Kreme) doughnuts I had a crush on them. - -- D. Michael Martindale dmichael@wwno.com ================================== Check out Worldsmiths, the new online LDS writers group, at http://www.wwno.com/worldsmiths Sponsored by Worlds Without Number http://www.wwno.com ================================== - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:34:45 -0700 From: "Cathy Wilson" Subject: Re: [AML] Utah Arts Council Writing Competition Nancy Takacs, who won first place for individual poem as well as poetry collection, teaches here at the College of Eastern Utah, not LDS. A wonderful teacher and writer and person. Her husband, Jan Minich, is also a fine poet. Cathy (Gileadi) Wilson Editing Etc. 1400 West 2060 North Helper UT 84526 - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:05:23 -0600 From: Linda Adams Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules At 05:24 PM 3/16/01, you wrote: >I know Rachel Nunes has made a kind of science of working writing into her >schedule; she even provides an outline of a typical day on her website >(www.ranunes.com). But she's got a bunch of kids and still writes multiple >books every year. And she says her house is clean, too. > >My question to Rachel, and anyone else in a similar situation, is: How much >time per day, generally speaking, do you spend writing? Okay, Rachel, cough up! We all want to know. How do you DO IT ALL? (Assuming she's still on the List, of course...) As for me, on a typical day, like 0 minutes. (Unless you count writing e-mail, maybe 15 minutes, unless I'm writing a post I have to edit a lot before sending out, and I try to limit those to the "rare" category lately.) On a good day, what I call a "writing day" where I can set everything aside, I have no appointments to make which stress me out, I can write from 2-6 hours and in that time get about a whole chapter written. I can manage "writing days" at least once, sometimes 3 times a week. Never weekends. It's hard to juggle all the responsibilities. Right now my dh is microwaving leftovers for us for dinner. I'm supposed to be cooking Something Healthy with Side Dishes... So, even with a supportive spouse who knows how to and DOES housework, I still can't get a lot done. Much of my problem boils down to being able to come up with the necessary focused concentration (editing previous work requires less, for me), and being able to come "back out" of the world I'm writing to real life. Many times I don't sit down to write because I don't have a large enough block of time. I struggle with making good use of 15-minute chunks. Editing my work I can do that way; but the original copy takes too much out of me to really work in small increments. I have to find ways to mentally be able to do it. All we've got so far on this thread is more people with my original question! Help us, somebody, please! :-) Linda Linda Adams adamszoo@sprintmail.com http://home.sprintmail.com/~adamszoo - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:18:22 -0300 From: "renatorigo" Subject: [AML] Fame and Ego (was: Satire) > I think this is an excellent subject for a mormon discussion... In our lives I think the greatest challenge we have is to get to controll our ego...and let god=B4s commandments guide our lives... We spend our lives searching for money, sucess,fame etc And after getting these thing people usually have to search for themselves.... Only my simple opinion.. Renato Rigo S=E3o Paulo - Brazil > David Letterman--Ah, I remember him well as the sportscaster and sometimes > weatherman at my old Indiana home station. Every since I met him in Los Angeles, > before he became a "star" I haven't cared for him. Very stuck on himself at even > that time. Too bad what fame can do to a person's ego. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:27:32 -0700 From: Steve Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules Rachel, Thanks for taking time to write this all down. (Actually, it probably saves you time since you can just forward it to anyone who asks!) It was a fun read and a good battery recharger for me meeting my current music writing goals! Best to you and yours, Steve - -- Steven Kapp Perry, songwriter and playwright http://www.stevenkappperry.com http://www.playwrightscircle.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:17:02 -0700 From: "Alan Rex Mitchell" Subject: Re: [AML] Last of the Red-Hot Mormon Lovers D. Michael, Stay away from my two daughters. Alan Mitchell - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:10:13 +0000 From: Jeff Needle Subject: Re: [AML] Last of the Red-Hot Mormon Lovers Sheesh. What a post. I also was a friend of Karl Sandberg. What a great friend he was. He is sorely missed. I last saw him when I had breakfast with him at a Sunstone symposium in Salt Lake City. He has given so many good talks there, in particular one titled "Jacob and the Angel." If you can get it on tape, do it, by all means. Now, one of Gene's daughters gave a rollicking talk at Sunstone a few years ago. I don't recall her first name. I do remember thinking, "She's a knockout!" I was head-over-heels in love. If she's the same person, I understand completely your feelings. [Jeff Needle] - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:38:09 -0700 From: Gerald G Enos Subject: Re: [AML] Last of the Red-Hot Mormon Lovers I don't know about England being an uncommon name. I met a kid in 6th grade whose last name was England and that was in Pocatello, ID. (It was in the 70's.) Konnie Enos ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:06:32 -0600 From: "Rose Green" Subject: Re: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry Another difference between the Pitt and the Monk series is that in some ways, the Monk series is a bit more believable. The Pitts seem to have an inordinate amount of close relatives who have become victims of murder, whereas the Monks deal with it in mostly in terms of who they meet in their profession. I admit to prefering the Monk series. I like the development of an unlikeable main character into a more human one. Not a major question, but I'd like to know when her novel during the French Revolution will be published in English. I read it in German last year and found it interesting (called something like Die Rettung der Koenig). I'd heard that maybe it would also develop into a series. Is that true? And of course, I'd like to know more about the Tathea sequel. Rose Green Rose _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:21:07 -0700 From: "Rob Lyon" Subject: Re: [AML] Satire "our leaders are serious men, and to emulate them requires that we be serious, too. " I'm not sure which leaders you refer to, but many of the leaders I am aware of have a great sense of humor. We recently had Elder Holland at our stake conference, and the man was a crack-up, especially at the Saturday leadership meeting (which is a bit more casual than the actual Sunday conference session). Elder Oaks, although he can look quite stern (especially with his bald head), is hilarious. And President Hinkley himself is very funny on a regular basis, as are Elders Maxwell and Monson and . . . you get the idea. Joseph Smith has already been brought up in this area, too. The point is that humor has a proper time and place. Some members may assume otherwise, since the leaders are generally formal, although I recall several moments of laughter even during General Conference in recent years. There ARE situations where humor is out of place. Laughing in sacrament meeting is inappropriate, for example, and I can picture President Hinkley giving a good look to quiet those deacons. But in other settings, I'm willing to wager all the higher-ups crack jokes, or at least laugh at others' jokes. Our leaders are not serious old coots, and we don't need to be, either. Annette Lyon - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:48:42 -0600 From: Linda Adams Subject: Re: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry I own one of hers but haven't had time (made time?) to get around to it yet. My question is, I'd like to know her writing schedule, has it changed since she joined the Church, and does she have any young'uns at home? :-) (you know that's been on my mind.) To make that an intelligent question, does she feel any shift in her career emphasis since joining us? i.e., subject matter, muse, schedule--is any of that different; has gaining a testimony changed what she wants to write about or how she does it? That kind of thing. Linda Adams adamszoo@sprintmail.com http://home.sprintmail.com/~adamszoo - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:57:00 -0700 From: "Scott Tarbet" Subject: RE: [AML] Mormon Reading of Poetry (was: Satire) > >> I wonder how 'mainstream' Mormon > >> readers would respond to the poem these days. > > Scott Tarbet responds: > >"Mainstream" Mormon readers don't read poetry longer than would > fit into a > >greeting card. > > Are you distinguishing LDS readers from some other group? Hockey players, > perhaps? Three-legged people? Dog breeders? Presbyterians? > > Just curious why you'd specify mainstream Mormons in an accusation that -- > in my experience -- applies univerally. > > Moreover, blaming Mormons -- or anyone else -- for not reading something > that hasn't been popular -- or even available -- since Longfellow's time > seems a bit odd. Do you know any sane person who's been producing fabulous > must-read book-length poetry in the past couple of years? > > --lmg, greeting-card reader If you'll read back to the question to which I quipped a response, you'll see that the Mormon part of the answer was inherent in the question. I didn't single us out. Like you, I don't think we're much different than the general population in that way. Having said that, there's quite a bit of excellent poetry out there -- there might not be much of it that's epic, but there's an awful lot of it that's longer than fits in a greeting card. Whether or not the poets who are producing it are "sane" is another question altogether. - -- Scott Tarbet - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:13:48 -0500 From: Merlyn J Clarke Subject: [AML] Eugene England Status >X-Originating-IP: [161.28.61.31] >From: "MARK ENGLAND" >To: mjc@csrlink.net,=20 >Subject: genes health 4 >Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:44:30 -0700 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2001 01:44:30.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=3D[4E9EA7F0:01C0B0DF] > > [Forwarded with permission] >March 17, 2001 >Dear friends, >I had hoped that by now there would have been something concrete to repo= rt=20 >to you on Genes condition, but we have yet to receive any further news=20 >concerning the pathology. We still don=92t know what caused the tumor an= d so=20 >far all scans and examinations have not revealed anything suspicious. We= =20 >don=92t know how to put this in perspective or if it is even possible to= gauge=20 >other than they know that cancer cells were in his bloodstream and may b= e in=20 >other parts of his brain. They are starting five weeks of medium level=20 >radiation treatment on all of his brain in order to kill any errant cell= s.=20 >He will lose his hair and it will make him very tired again which is=20 >disappointing now that he is regaining his strength. He will have to be=20 >closely monitored from now on just in case something flairs up. In the m= ean=20 >time dad is working very hard at physical rehabilitation, learning how t= o=20 >use his left side again. He spends about six hours a day working on=20 >different functions so he is very exhausted at the end of the day. He=20 >worries a lot about whether he is making progress, which he is, but it i= s=20 >hard for him to notice it. His spirits fluctuate between a strong=20 >determination to work as hard as he can to feeling like it is going nowh= ere.=20 >Yesterday,he came home for Sunday dinner and walked across the room with= =20 >someone helping him keep his balance. He can lift his left arm and pull = in=20 >his four fingers. All of this if very encouraging to us, but at the same= =20 >time we all feel overwhelmed at the long road ahead. He should be out of= =20 >Rehab in about a week and hope that he is walking on his own in about si= x=20 >weeks. For myself, I have gained a much greater appreciation for the=20 >situations and tragedies of other people who have had to deal with great= =20 >challenges in their lives. I appreciate those people who have shared the= ir=20 >own experiences and feelings with me as well as those who have been so=20 >generous with their help. Almost every time I see dad he tells me how mu= ch=20 >he appreciates and needs the prayers and faith of people to help him thr= ough=20 >this and that he truly feels blessed and strengthened because of them. > > > > > > - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #283 ******************************