From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #284 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Wednesday, March 21 2001 Volume 01 : Number 284 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:49:07 -0600 From: Linda Adams Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules Thank you, Rachel! This does help IMMENSELY. >If you had a "real" job, you'd have to do it each day, and it's the same >with writing. A regular time and a word (not time) goal can help you achieve >wonders. I've been trying (without a lot of success) to get stuff done in the morning and start writing from 1-4 each day, but it's not working. Putting it first thing in the morning in jammies sounds like it will work better for me; I'll give it a try. I like the word-count goal instead of time. Time, with interruptions, just doesn't work. >So where was I? Oh yes, delegation. My eleven-year-old son cleans two of our >bathrooms and the TV room every day. My nine-year-old daughter sweeps the >kitchen and entryway and then spot-mops the tile. Our other daughter who's >seven cleans the playroom, the mudroom, and puts away the clean dishes. Our >four-year-old helps with the playroom and organizes the toys I have in a >corner of my office. All of them clean their own rooms and fold and put away >their own laundry. Yes, even the four-year-old. I would really like to know your secret for HOW you motivate them to work. This may not be 100% AML-topic, but it's part of this whole deal. I also have chore lists and do chores with the kids to train them (mine are 10, 9, 8, 4, and infant); I give them things they reasonably can accomplish; but they almost never actually DO the chores unless I stand there and make them, like a policeman. If I move off to get other work done (computer or my own house chores), they stop working. I've tried positive rewards, negative consequences (I prefer positives and emphasize those much more), etc., and they just won't do it unless they're pushed. They don't seem to care much whether they get to watch TV or not, or play with friends or not, etc. >And guess what? The children really do a good job. They didn't at first >years ago, and it was very difficult to teach them responsibility, but I >don't have to worry about the house now. I even have time to dust the piano >on Saturdays. I should also say I've only been at teaching them the chore lists for a year or two, I'm a slow starter. Just never give up, right? Anyone have a good system that works for encouraging sluggish children? I didn't have chores growing up; I don't think it was useful not to, and want to change that for my children, but I also don't have a solid, built-in system I remember from childhood. My kids are expected to (daily) pick up one room each after school, their own rooms, help with dinner (cook's helper, set, clear, wash), and do two other cleaning jobs sometime during the week (doesn't have to be Saturday, but they can't play Saturday unless/until the weekly jobs are done.) They wind up in angst Saturday 5 pm when they're "finally" done with jobs that should take 1 hour (maybe two) and it's too late to play. Drives me nuts. Solutions? I'm positive it's not the jobs themselves, but the motivation. I've got something wrong somewhere that I can't place. I'm not a neat freak (good thing), I don't care much if people stop in and it's lived-in messy, but I do mind that I'm the only person in the house who seems to CARE whether the housework gets done or not. >12. Never write on Sundays. Never. I agree. I used to write on Sundays when it was a dream, a passing (I thought) hobby that wasn't going anywhere. It was, actually, restful and often inspirational. But I never do now that it's a "job" for which I receive payment (eventually). I can't write on Saturdays either, not for lack of trying, but it just doesn't work out. As for the shopping; I admit I'm a control freak when it comes to the grocery shopping. This is due to my hubby coming home with Weird Things when I send him to the supermarket. Weird meaning, things not on my list, brands I never buy for specific reasons, things that blow the budget, etc. It would take me more time to write out a store list specific enough to prevent all these Weird Things, than it would take to meet my week's writing quota. :-) Do I just learn to cope with it? He's also in night school two nights a week; another reason I'd rather not ask him to do the shopping. But shopping does take far more time than I like. Also, do you exercise at all, and where do you fit that in, if you're in your jammies all day? When do showers happen? As it is, most days I already live in sweats and hope to just brush my hair before my husband comes home. I'm spending too much time on this, and have to get back to my own book too. But it is helping me work out what kind of solutions I may need, here. I really appreciate your taking the time to write in, Rachel; I know time is precious, and when writing on deadlines, e-mail lists really have to take bottom priority. (I haven't even checked mine in 3 days, since I wrote my original post to this thread.) Linda Linda Adams adamszoo@sprintmail.com http://home.sprintmail.com/~adamszoo - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:51:07 -0600 From: Ronn Blankenship Subject: Re: [AML] Where's the Little Brown? At 09:20 17-03-01 -0700, you wrote: >Thank you, Scott. I get my lefts and rights mixed up all the time. Bless >you! Marilyn > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Scott Tarbet >To: >Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 1:15 PM >Subject: RE: [AML] Where's the Little Brown? > > > > > Thanks for asking, Travis. It's the Little Brown Theatre, 239 S. Main in > > > Springville. Take Exit 263, go east, stop and Main street and > > > turn right for > > > one and one half blocks. Come! You'll love it! Marilyn Brown > > > > Minor detail: when you get to Main Street turn LEFT (rather than > > right) and go north one and a half blocks. The Little Brown Theatre is a > > storefront on the right (east) side of the street. > > > > -- Scott Tarbet (Van Daan) As the director was always yelling in my ear when I was running a camera (and as I did when I was directing): "Pan left. YOUR _OTHER_ LEFT!!" - -- Ronn! :) - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:53:03 -0600 From: Ronn Blankenship Subject: Re: [AML] Mormon Reading of Poetry (was: Satire) At 09:01 17-03-01 -0800, you wrote: > >> I wonder how 'mainstream' Mormon > >> readers would respond to the poem these days. > >Scott Tarbet responds: > >"Mainstream" Mormon readers don't read poetry longer than would fit into a > >greeting card. > >Are you distinguishing LDS readers from some other group? Hockey players, >perhaps? Three-legged people? Dog breeders? Presbyterians? > >Just curious why you'd specify mainstream Mormons in an accusation that -- >in my experience -- applies univerally. > >Moreover, blaming Mormons -- or anyone else -- for not reading something >that hasn't been popular -- or even available -- since Longfellow's time >seems a bit odd. Do you know any sane person who's been producing fabulous >must-read book-length poetry in the past couple of years? > >--lmg, greeting-card reader Other than the Moderator, how many here actually read the poetry in _Lord of the Rings_ the first time through? - -- Ronn! :) [MOD: I must confess: not me either. But then, I was 10 years old at the time...] - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:04:14 -0600 From: Ronn Blankenship Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules Just a couple of comments (or wisecracks): At 00:43 18-03-01 -0800, Rachel Ann Nunes wrote: >Give your children chores and allow your >husband do his share. What if you have no children old enough to help? I've tried asking the cats to help around the house, but they have been quite slow to learn even basic housekeeping. >3. Don't waste time doing things NO ONE should do. For example, wasting time >on the Internet, e-mail, or especially watching TV. The average person >spends seven entire years of their life watching TV. Can you believe that? >Think of everything you could do in seven years! Incredible. Successful >people rarely waste time watching TV. So what if you want to write for TV or film and want to see what is currently out there? (My particular answer is 3 VCRs and a TV near the computer.) >5. Wear modest pajamas when you are writing. This way you don't need to >interrupt your writing time to get dressed if someone pops in or if you have >to make a quick errand. And women carry an extra set of makeup in your >purse. This pretty much only works for women. When we men answer the door at mid-day in our pajamas, we are asked "Are you sick?" (The assumption being that you should be at a "real" job -- i.e., one not performed at home -- at least between 8 am and 5 pm weekdays.) Sweats are a little better, but you still look as if you are home sick (or worse, unemployed), especially if you have not yet shaved that day. I prefer putting a "NO SOLICITING -- Please do not knock or ring bell unless you have an appointment" sign on the door and then ignoring the doorbell unless I am actually expecting someone. (An idea I got from an "Ann Landers" or "Dear Abby" or some such advice column years ago, FWIW. It was on the intellectual page* of the local newspaper -- a good place to go for ideas or inspiration.) There _is_ a note pad and a pen on a chain beside the door if anyone wants to leave a message. Occasionally, I even look at the messages and, on even rarer occasions, reply. (*i.e., the comics.) >6. Learn to say no when it infringes upon your writing time. > >7. Tell people you are writing so they will let you write. This also gives >you more incentive to actually write. > >8. Tell people about your deadline--even if it's a personal deadline. You >must respect your time so that others will also. Again, especially if you are a man (and especially if you are wearing sweats and haven't shaved that morning), the response will be something along the lines of "You're not _working_ (or "You're not doing anything _important_"), you can do that later," or "So when are you going to get a real job?" (translation: "One that you do somewhere other than at home, like I and other normal people have. And actually get a regular paycheck from.") >9. Don't answer your phone That's what answering machines/voice mail are for. Besides, 9 times out of 10, it's a #$%^^&%$$#?!! telemarketer, anyway. And half or more of the time, those calls turn out to be machine-generated, so all you hear if you do pick up is some funny clicks and squeals, then nothing. BTW, caller ID can be counter-productive if you're the kind of person who, when you find a missed call from a number that you don't recognize who didn't leave any message, you wonder about who might have called until you call them back (and find out it was a wrong number). Gotta work on that . . . >11. Don't ever give up. Goes without saying. >13. Pray. Tell your Father what your goals are and ask him to help you reach >them. Of course, you should be praying about everything in your life anyway (Alma 34:19-37). The _hard_ part is listening, believing, and doing. >See, it's all a matter of priorities. If it doesn't say Mommy and it's not a >deadline, it can probably wait. Sometimes it says "meow" and knocks fragile things off a shelf (or jumps on top of your keyboard) to get immediate attention. And if it doesn't get it, it . . . uh . . . expresses its disappointment in a manner that requires immediate, unscheduled scrubbing of household furnishings. (Those who have cats will know what I mean.) Dogs are worse, as they have to be walked frequently, or similar incidents will occur. - -- Ronn! :) - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:19:57 -0800 From: Dana Eccles Subject: [AML] Re: [AML-Mag] Writing Schedules As I am yet unpublished (though not for lack of trying--I'm not bitter!) you may want to avoid putting too much credence in the method to my madness but here goes.... My alarm rings @ 4:30 am. I get up, pray, read a chapter or 2 of Scripture, pray again and then force myself to write a minimum of 3 full pages every day, regardless of time needed . Usually "force" is the operative word & much of what I write is proof of that. I commute to work & this allows me to continue my writing to & from work, giving me up to 4 hours of wastable time. Eventually I take my rambling, disjointed attempts at prose & edit for coherence. Someday it will become the great american novel or kindling. [Dana Eccles] Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:26:02 -0700 From: "Eric D. Snider" Subject: Re: [AML] Fame and Ego (was: Satire) I can't speak about David Letterman from first-hand experience, but I do know that what the public perceives as aloofness or snobbery on the part of celebrities is often just shyness, tiredness, or some other perfectly legitimate reason why they don't feel like socializing with strangers at that particular moment. I think the curse of celebrity is that people expect you to always be "on" -- to always be funny if you're a comedian, to always be pretty if you're a model, etc. -- when in reality, you're just a person who is not "always" anything. What I know of Letterman, in reading interviews and hearing people who know him talk about him, is that he's a very private, shy person. I'm the same way -- and people have often mistaken my being reserved as meaning I didn't like them or thought I was too good to talk to them. Does being an artist automatically mean you have to accept celebrity-hood with it? Is it all part and parcel, or are we allowed to choose whether we'll become celebrities? It seems like a lot of artists have celebrity thrust upon them. They do what they do because it brings them joy, and the fame comes along with it, whether they like it or not. Is that fair? Is it just the price one has to pay? Eric D. Snider - -- *************************************************** Eric D. Snider www.ericdsnider.com "Filling all your Eric D. Snider needs since 1974." - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:42:50 -0800 From: Dana Eccles Subject: [AML] Re: [AML-Mag] Influential Authors (O.S. Card) As a prelude, here's my top 10: 10 Kurt Vonnegut 9 Hunter S Thompson 8 C. S. Lewis 7 Robert Anton Wilson 6 Darles Chickens (hats off to Tony M Nyphot on that one) 5 William S Burroughs 4 Jack Kerouac 3 Thomas Pynchon 2 Seamus Joyce 1 Tom Robbins I listed these for a chance to bring a quote from Tom Robbins into the ongoing discussion re: satire/irony/humor/etc: "Important humor is liberating and maybe even transformative. Important humor is also always inappropriate--if a joke is appropriate, you can rest assured it is unimportant. But a joke in the _wrong_ place at the _wrong_ time can cause a leap in consciousness that is liberating to the human spirit. In regards to the above list as with many eclectic readers, especially those few of my generation (X), it is subject to change in random & unpredictable ways. [Dana Eccles] Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:10:02 -0700 From: "D. Michael Martindale" Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules Linda Adams wrote: > All we've got so far on this thread is more people with my original > question! Help us, somebody, please! :-) I'm not sure what you're looking for, Linda. If you don't have enough time, there is literally only one solution. You've got to start trimming things out of your day that are less important than writing, period. No one can conjur up more hours in the day for you. You may need a paradigm shift that will redefine some of the things you're spending time on as less important than writing. You may need a disciplined schedule that will group those 15 minute slots into one larger time period so you can write. You mentioned something about stressing out over appointments. What the heck are these? I hope you're not letting others dictate your schedule for you. If you had a "real" job, you would just tell people no, you can't come during those hours. Set hours for your real writing job and tell people no during those hours. - -- D. Michael Martindale dmichael@wwno.com ================================== Check out Worldsmiths, the new online LDS writers group, at http://www.wwno.com/worldsmiths Sponsored by Worlds Without Number http://www.wwno.com ================================== - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:07:28 -0600 From: "Rose Green" Subject: Re: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry Oops--that should have been Die Rettung DES Koenigs, published by Wilhelm Heyne Verlag, Munich, 2000. (The French Revolution mystery by Perry). Grammar turns off when my brain is tired. Rose Green _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:42:07 -0700 From: Thom Duncan Subject: Re: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry Stacy Burton wrote: > > Perry has two Victorian series. The Monk/Latterly series begins in the > 1850s, the Pitt series in the 1880s. I've read one Pitt book and, quite frankly, it caused me some to reassess a position I've maintained with some vehemence on this list. In this book, an actress prides herself in stretching the envelope of acceptability in her performances. She laughs in the face of critics who question her morality and the effect of her works on the audience. She makes a great case during the book for freedom of expression, things that, today, we would call, First Amendment issues. Until her adult son is discovered to be a murderer, having been indirectly influenced into a lifestyle of debauchery by his own mother. This caused me to question my long-held position of "Damn the audience! Full steam ahead!" I've said before that if someone were wrongly influenced by something I wrote, then it would be entirely their fault. On the other hand, if that someone turned out to be one of my children ... I'm not so sure anymore. - -- Thom Duncan Playwrights Circle, an organization of professionals Read about the Playwrights Circle Summer Festival at UVSC: http://www.playwrightscircle.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:44:40 -0700 From: "bob/bernice hughes" Subject: Re: [AML] Mormon Reading of Poetry >Scott Tarbet: > >"Mainstream" Mormon readers don't read poetry longer than would fit into >a greeting card. >LauraMaery (Gold: Are you distinguishing LDS readers from some other group? >Hockey players, perhaps? Three-legged people? Dog breeders? Presbyterians? > >Just curious why you'd specify mainstream Mormons in an accusation that >--in my experience -- applies univerally. Scott’s probably right. The gentile Barnes & Noble in downtown Salt Lake has about 8 stacks (32 shelves?) of poetry. The Deseret Book in downtown Salt Lake has 2 shelves of poetry. If anyone does have an interest in poetry, and you are in New York in April, and you have some spare time (I think that eliminates everyone), you might drop by Poet’s House (www.poetshouse.org). Poet’s House was established by Stanley Kunitz (current US Poet Laureate) as a poetry gathering place. During April they have their major annual events. Lots of readings this April, including Kunitz, Seamus Heaney, Anne Carson, and others. They also exhibit most of the poetry books published in the U.S. in the past year. And they include a handful of internationally published books, too. Look for my book, _Behind Blue Eyes: Sonnets from the Vietnamese_ in that latter group. Laura, send me your mailing address and I’ll send you a copy of my book. I’ve received some reader comments from some of your old Hong Kong acquaintances and they thought it captured the expat life quite well. Bob Hughes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:09:49 -0700 From: "Christopher Bigelow" Subject: RE: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry So what question(s) would a good Anne Perry interview include? - -----Original Message----- From: "Tracie Laulusa" =20 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:53 AM To: aml-list@lists.xmission.com; dlaulusa@copper.net Subject: RE: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry When I first started reading Anne Perry, it was her Charlotte and Thomas Pitt ones I read. In fact, that's how I figured out she was LDS. One = novel centered around a woman (dead) who had been involved in a new religion. The C & T ones are dark as well. It is their enduring relationship that help lighten the tone somewhat. At least as I remember them. Tracie - -----Original Message----- Maybe the Charlotte and Thomas Pitt books are less dismal. I haven't = tried them. I'm kind of afraid to. You all know I'm not a fan of the dark, dreary, dismal, and depressing in literature. barbara hume - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:39:08 -0700 From: "Eric D. Snider" Subject: Re: [AML] Satire >"our leaders are serious men, and to emulate them requires that we be >serious, too. " > >I'm not sure which leaders you refer to, but many of the leaders I am aware >of have a great sense of humor. Unless I'm very much mistaken, the statement was meant to be ironic, since all of the men he referred to specifically after that are well-known for their senses of humor. > Laughing in sacrament >meeting is inappropriate, for example, and I can picture President Hinkley >giving a good look to quiet those deacons. Wow! That's a sweeping assertion. Laughter is NEVER appropriate in sacrament meeting? I assume you're talking about teens giggling about unrelated matters from the congregation, and not when the speaker uses humor as a part of his talk. Eric D. Snider - -- *************************************************** Eric D. Snider www.ericdsnider.com "Filling all your Eric D. Snider needs since 1974." - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:00:08 -0500 From: Richard Johnson Subject: Re: [AML] Last of the Red-Hot Mormon Lovers At 08:38 PM 3/19/2001 -0700, you wrote: >I don't know about England being an uncommon name. I met a kid in 6th >grade whose last name was England and that was in Pocatello, ID. (It was >in the 70's.) > >Konnie Enos > I had a debate partner named England in Pocatello, ID. (that was in the - -sigh- early 50's) so it may be rare many places, but not in Pocatello, Idaho. Richard B. Johnson Husband, Father, Grandfather, Puppeteer, Playwright, Writer, Director, Actor, Thingmaker, Mormon, Person, Fool I sometimes think that the last persona is the most important http://www2.gasou.edu/commarts/puppet/ Georgia Southern University Puppet Theatre - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:53:43 -0700 From: Thom Duncan Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules In my opinion, people who ask, "Where do you find the time to write?" are really asking, "Which of the other necessary things of everyday life are you letting slip?" You have to set priorities. A man who works all day may have to steal time at night. If he's hooked on the TV shows, he needs to get a VCR and tape them. A woman writer is going to have to let some housework fall by the wayside until a later time. There's just no other way to do it. Rachel says: > The point is, you have to write. Even when the words aren't coming. I firmly > believe that until you actually have enough on computer to tempt the muse, > he won't be visiting with great ideas. I couldn't agree more. I don't do this as often as I should, but everytime I've sat down at the computer and said, "I'm going to write that chapter, or that scene, no matter, what happens," it happens. And most of the time, what I end up with is not what I thought I was going for when I started. My problem is I have multiple interests. I write novels, plays, screenplays, lyrics, and short stories. I have ideas hopping around in my head all the time. At this moment in time (and this is just off the top of my head), I have ideas for at least 6 novels, four or five plays, the same amount of screenplays, etc. If I started writing now and didn't have a new idea, I would be busy for the next three years. I find myself flitting back and forth between the various media. One thing I've not been able to do, like Rachel has, is to maintain interest in one genre for a great length of time. My three novels were written fifteen years apart, with several plays in between. - -- Thom Duncan Playwrights Circle, an organization of professionals Read about the Playwrights Circle Summer Festival at UVSC: http://www.playwrightscircle.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:55:22 -0700 From: Thom Duncan Subject: Re: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry Linda Adams wrote: > > I own one of hers but haven't had time (made time?) to get around to it yet. > > My question is, I'd like to know her writing schedule, has it changed since > she joined the Church, and does she have any young'uns at home? :-) (you > know that's been on my mind.) She's unmarried. - -- Thom Duncan Playwrights Circle, an organization of professionals Read about the Playwrights Circle Summer Festival at UVSC: http://www.playwrightscircle.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:15:18 -0500 From: Richard Johnson Subject: Re: [AML] Mormon Reading of Poetry (was: Satire) At 10:53 PM 3/19/2001 -0600, you wrote: > > >Other than the Moderator, how many here actually read the poetry in _Lord >of the Rings_ the first time through? > > >-- Ronn! :) > >[MOD: I must confess: not me either. But then, I was 10 years old at the >time...] I confess that I can't imagine reading the _Lord of the Rings_ without reading the poetry. My children got so involved with the poetry that they recited it around the house. At least one of my sons went to the back of the books and learned the Runic language. (They tell me that he caused some real excitement at the Epcot center where they had a -I can't think of the word, I want to call it an ansible, but that's not right, but a gismo that changed sound and light as you moved in proximity to it-- gismo--Theramin? because he got into chanting runes and making mystic movements to change light and sound. Richard B. Johnson Husband, Father, Grandfather, Puppeteer, Playwright, Writer, Director, Actor, Thingmaker, Mormon, Person, Fool I sometimes think that the last persona is the most important http://www2.gasou.edu/commarts/puppet/ Georgia Southern University Puppet Theatre - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:48:33 -0700 From: Eileen Stringer Subject: Re: [AML] Questions for Anne Perry Eric Dixon wrote. >I've always been curious to find out whether she saw _Heavenly Creatures_, >and what her reaction was. Having been to a reading/book signing of hers a couple of times and heard this come up both times, she has stated that no she did not see the movie and had no desire to. It is a part of her life that she has put behind her and does not really like to dwell on. >On the other hand, I would imagine there's a good chance she won't want to >talk about it at all. Indeed that has been her request. It is something akin to having to relive all your past sins at every interview. Eileen Stringer eileens99@bigplanet.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:43:07 -0800 From: "Frank Maxwell" Subject: [AML] Mormon Arts Festival 2001 To the list: I received the following note regarding the Mormon Arts Festival. So there won't be any gathering this year in St. George, as was announced last year. - ---------- From: Doug Stewart Subject: RE: Mormon Arts Festival 2001 Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 6:34 PM Dear LDS Artist, The Mormon Arts Festival, originally scheduled for 2001, has been postponed indefinitely, at least in its current form. The Board of Directors is re-evaluating the mission of the Festival to serve the LDS artist, and how best to achieve that. A group of full-time professional LDS artists will be meeting in April to discuss the best direction to go. We have you on file and will let you know how things unfold. If you have participated in the past, we express appreciation for your support. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:13:48 -0700 From: "Brent J. Rowley" Subject: Re: [AML] Satire Rob Lyon wrote: > "our leaders are serious men, and to emulate them requires that we be > serious, too. " > > I'm not sure which leaders you refer to, but many of the leaders I am aware > of have a great sense of humor. We recently had Elder Holland at our stake > conference, and the man was a crack-up, especially at the Saturday > leadership meeting. > > Annette Lyon There's an article in the March, 2000 Ensign, written by Brad Wilcox, titled _If We Can Laugh At It, We Can Live With It (Humor can improve our perspective and lighten our load)_. He does an excellent job of summing up everything we've heard and read in this thread. And apparently the Powers-That-Be thought it important enough to include in the church magazine for all eleven or twelve million of us. One quote in particular that caught my attention was by Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, who taught, "Jesus found special joy and happiness in children and said all of us should be more like them--guileless and pure, quick to laugh." - -BJ Rowley - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:15:26 -0600 From: Jonathan Langford Subject: [AML] re: Questions for Anne Perry Folks, we're at the 30-post limit for the day now--and as I said before, I'm going offline for several days tomorrow morning. However: to summarize several posts from Chris Bigelow that there isn't space to forward now, in all the topics we're discussing about Anne Perry, please consider whether there's a question that would be good for an interview. You might want to consider looking at previous _Irreantum_ interviews (for those of you who have a copy--and for those who don't, go out and buy one!)--and think about questions that might provoke interesting, thought-provoking answers. Chris has given us a chance to put in questions for one of the most popular Mormon authors. Let's take advantage of the opportunity! Jonathan Langford AML-List Moderator - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:36:38 EST From: Turk325@aol.com Subject: Re: [AML] Last of the Red-Hot Mormon Lovers In a message dated 3/20/01 9:32:39 AM, kdenos@juno.com writes: << I don't know about England being an uncommon name. I met a kid in 6th grade whose last name was England and that was in Pocatello, ID. (It was in the 70's.)>> The SLC phone book lists 75 Englands. Kurt Weiland - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:23:48 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Utah Arts Council Writing Competition Cathy, thank you for giving us a bit about Nancy. I am very impressed, as I saw her name TWICE on the winning roster! Do you know her very well? What does she teach? Etc. Did they go to any Utah schools before teaching? Where did they come from? Thanks! Marilyn Brown - ----- Original Message ----- > Nancy Takacs, who won first place for individual poem as well as poetry > collection, teaches here at the College of Eastern Utah, not LDS. A > wonderful teacher and writer and person. Her husband, Jan Minich, is also a > fine poet. > > Cathy (Gileadi) Wilson > Editing Etc. > 1400 West 2060 North > Helper UT 84526 - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:18 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules Rachel writes: "so I can spend more time at the pool or the park with my children." That's how I wrote THE EARTHKEEPERS. I sat by the pool and wrote while the children hit each other with marco polo balls. Marilyn Brown - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:19:29 -0700 From: Eileen Stringer Subject: Re: [AML] Mormon Reading of Poetry (was: Satire) Other than the Moderator, how many here actually read the poetry in _Lord of the Rings_ the first time through? - -- Ronn! :) [MOD: I must confess: not me either. But then, I was 10 years old at the time...] Well I read the poetry the first time and each and every time I read the Lord of the Rings. The poetry is part of the story. I enjoy reading poetry and believe reading a poem a day may help keep me sane. :) Eileen Stringer eileens99@bigplanet.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:19:46 -0600 From: Jonathan Langford Subject: [AML] AML-List Going Offline Folks, There are about 30 posts in the in-box right now. I'm going to go through and send out most or all of them, then shut down the List until next Monday, March 26. Have a good rest-of-the-week! Jonathan Langford AML-List Moderator - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:43:37 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Richard Dutcher Interview I think your key is the words you used: TOO MUCH. If they didn't live TOO MUCH in the ideal, etc., would there be more of a possibility for joy and art to exist together? This is a good question, William, and I propose that you are gearing yourself up to write a paper for "Walking . . . a tightrope." We'd like to see that paper read at the March 2 AML meeting! Marilyn Brown - ----- Original Message ----- > >From the Richard Dutcher interview: > > "There's an idealism that I struggle with also. I > think in our hearts we are all striving for the City > of Enoch or Zion-which has to be an adult re-creation > of the Eden we lost. I think there are a lot of people > who really want to be a part of that Zion. There's a > certain sadness that comes from being a part of a > society where that's not really possible." > > I have mixed feelings about this observation. On the > one hand, I think that I know what Dutcher is speaking > about and believe that it could be a rich vein for > Mormon literature to mine. The desire for Zion, the > demands of the world---create a whole range of > responses in Mormons. Exploring the reasons for and > the ultimate ends of these responses could make for > fascinating, vibrant reading, especially in a > long-form text like the novel. > > On the other hand, this sadness, this yearning reminds > me too much of all those sensitive young artists in > literature who get crushed by the world----Goethe's > _The Sorrows of Young Werther_ would be the > prototype---because they live too much in the ideal > (of beauty, of art) they construct, and it all falls > to pieces when reality breaks rudely in. > > So my question is: Is there a way to deal with this > sadness that Dutcher is speaking about without falling > into the old dichotomies, the dashed Utopian dreams > (either works that are already out there, or theories > about how they could be produced)? > > ~~William Morris - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:39:42 -0700 From: Gerald G Enos Subject: Re: [AML] Mormon Reading of Poetry (was: Satire) I read the poetry in Lord of the Rings the first time through. It help to inspire me to write my own fantasy. Konnie Enos ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #284 ******************************