From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #288 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Wednesday, March 28 2001 Volume 01 : Number 288 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:37:43 -0700 From: "Scott Tarbet" Subject: RE: [AML] Mormon Reading of Poetry (was: Satire) > It is not weird. Enough people like the poetry in _Lord of the > Rings_ that > HarperCollins published a book of just the poetry from the > trilogy. The book > is nicely illustrated by someone named Alan Lee with those mystical soft > fuzzy pictures. My copy doesn’t have a US$ price, though, only pounds and > Aussie dollars. Hmmm, there must not be a market in the U.S. > > Bob Hughes Hadn't heard about this new book! Okay, I'm off to the bookstore to grab it . . . but not until I comment that Alan Lee's LOTR paintings are absolutely wonderful. One of several places online to get a feeling for some of them is http://anduin.eldar.org/artgallery/tolkien/alee/justpixs.html - -- Scott Tarbet - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:52:57 +0000 From: Jeff Needle Subject: Re: [AML] B.J. ROWLEY, _My Body Fell Off!_ (Review) Thanks for this review. I reviewed the book some time ago and found the astral projection part to be most objectionable. One can hardly expect young people to distinguish between one form of occultism and another. I'm really not an old fuddie-duddie, but I think we need to be careful how we let ideas clearly not within the bounds of the Gospel be introduced as somehow acceptable. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:54:10 +0000 From: Jeff Needle Subject: RE: [AML] Martindale Quote in Deseret Book Catalog They used one of my cites on a book about a year ago, I forget which one. They seem to like positive reviews, for some reason > At 11:07 AM 3/26/01 -0700, you wrote: >Yo, D. Michael, the blurb for "One More River to Cross" in the new Deseret >Book catalog begins, "Called 'The Color Purple for Mormons' by critic D. >Michael Martindale, Standing on the Promises . . ." > >Is that quote from you AML-List review? > >How often have publishers used AML-generated quotes (whether AML-List, the >annual, or Irreantum) in their marketing material? > >Chris Bigelow - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:07:31 -0700 From: "D. Michael Martindale" Subject: Re: [AML] Fictionalizing Reality Rose Green wrote: > > Here's a question for those of you who have done a lot more writing than I > have: How does one deal with the seemingly contrasting ideas of writing > from what you know, and the statement "the characters are fictional and any > similarity to real persons, either living or dead, is coincidental"? It > seems like if you are going to write about something that you 1) know about > and 2) really care about, there is going to be some kind of trace to a real > incident or to real people. Unless a character or event is openly meant to be the real thing (biography, historical novel, etc.), you'd better develop them to a level where they are truly not the starting point, or you are writing inferior fiction. People can already read about real people and real events in history books, newspapers, biographies, magazines, etc. What readers want from fiction is to learn more about people and events than they can from real life. That means you as a writer, even if you start from a real person or event, must develop these things so thoroughly and completely, infusing them with truthful insights about life that come from your fertile imagination, that the end product should bear little resemblance to the starting point. You the author can't know about real people or events well enough to write good fiction about them, therefore you are required to fictionalize them to make them real and insightful. Your end product should be so much more a product of your own creativity than a product of the real-life starting point that it is completely truthful to say "the characters and events are fictional and any similarity to real persons, either living or dead, is coincidental." If they aren't, you haven't developed them well enough. - -- D. Michael Martindale dmichael@wwno.com ================================== Check out Worldsmiths, the new online LDS writers group, at http://www.wwno.com/worldsmiths Sponsored by Worlds Without Number http://www.wwno.com ================================== - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:11:48 -0700 From: "D. Michael Martindale" Subject: Re: [AML] Martindale Quote in Deseret Book Catalog Christopher Bigelow wrote: > > Yo, D. Michael, the blurb for "One More River to Cross" in the new Deseret Book catalog begins, "Called 'The Color Purple for Mormons' by critic D. Michael Martindale, Standing on the Promises . . ." > > Is that quote from you AML-List review? Yes, that's from my AML-List review. > How often have publishers used AML-generated quotes (whether AML-List, the annual, or Irreantum) in their marketing material? Margaret may have been instrumental in geting that quote used. So I dont' know that it's representative of normal Deseret Book behavior. - -- D. Michael Martindale dmichael@wwno.com ================================== Check out Worldsmiths, the new online LDS writers group, at http://www.wwno.com/worldsmiths Sponsored by Worlds Without Number http://www.wwno.com ================================== - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:31:44 -0600 From: Larry Jackson Subject: [AML] Writing Schedules Annette Lyon: One year I got a big box of chocolates for Valentines, and my husband jokingly bet that I couldn't make it last more than a couple of days. I took the challenge, and allowed myself a single chocolate only on days when I wrote 2,000 words. I did it, and had nearly an entire novel completed by the time the chocolates were gone (on many days I surprised myself by getting in 3,000 words). _______________ Wow! A whole novel from a box of chocolates. Now that's creativity. Way to go! Larry Jackson ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:17:25 -0700 From: "Alan Rex Mitchell" Subject: Re: [AML] Alan Rex MITCHELL, _Angel of the Danube_ (Review) For the AML listers living on the Wasatch Front (or visiting conference weekend), Alan Rex Mitchell will be giving a reading sponsored by the BYU English Department on Friday March 30 at 12:00 noon in the JKHB room 2084. He will be reading from his novel, Angel of the Danube, discussing missionary fiction, and answering questions. Yeah, I know...it's not Las Vegas, but you have to go where sinners are. Alan PS. D. Michael, I wish you would have offered the Indian underware motif before I went to print--Barry could have used it. And stay away from my daughter. A. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:26:19 -0600 From: Larry Jackson Subject: [AML] MN LDS Columnist Wins Religious Journalism Award: Deseret News From: Kent Larsen To: Mormon News Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:00:00 -0500 Subject: MN LDS Columnist Wins Religious Journalism Award: Deseret News 24Mar01 B2 [From Mormon-News] LDS Columnist Wins Religious Journalism Award SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH -- For the second time in four years, Deseret News columnist, Jerry Johnston, has been awarded the Wilbur Award for outstanding religion columns by the Religion Communicators Council. The 2000 Wilbur will be presented to Johnston on April 28, 200l during the council's annual convention in Minneapolis. The Religious Communicators Council is an interfaith group that awards Wilburs to selected films, TV programs, broadcasts for the content of religious material "that recognizes excellence in communicating religious issues, values and themes in public media." The prize is named for Marvin C. Wilbur, who while serving as the Religion Council's executive officer for 27 years, was also the information officer for the Presbyterian Church. Johnston, 52, is a Brigham City native and a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He earned a bachelor's degree from Utah State and a master's degree from the University of New Mexico. His degrees were both in Spanish literature. He came to the Deseret News in 1976 as a sports writer and later was a feature writer and columnist for "Ideally Speaking" a weekly religion column. Johnston is the author of two books, "Spirits in the Leaves" and "Dads and Other Heroes." He has received numerous journalism and writing awards, including first place from the Utah Arts Council and the Utah Chapter of the Society of Professional Journalists. He won an Associated Press writing contest in 1995. Johnston received the Mark E. Petersen Excellence in Writing Award in 1979. "I think the best way is to tap into universal themes that all people can relate to their own lives," said Johnston of his award winning writing style. Rick Hall, Deseret News Managing Editor said, "Jerry somehow consistently puts a subtle but impossible to ignore touch on his column that makes reading it both entertaining and enlightening." "But, amazingly, you don't realize that until you're done. The delivery is so soft that you're finished reading before you know you've been hit. But there's no doubt about what he was trying to say. It's clear that he gives his writing as much attention as his message. And, somehow, neither overshadows the other. His column is just a great read," Hall concluded. Johnston recently suffered a heart attack while at the Dallas-Fort Worth Airport. "Because of my heart problems, I wrote fewer columns last year and readers seemed more please," he quipped. "I guess that means when the time comes that I don't write any, they'll be delighted." Source: News columnist wins 2000 Wilbur Award Deseret News 24Mar01 B2 http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,270007449,00.html? By Lynn Arave: Deseret News staff writer Prize recognizes excellence in religious writing >From Mormon-News: Mormon News and Events Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included Mormon News items may not be posted to the World Wide Web sites without permission. Please link to our pages instead. For more information see http://www.MormonsToday.com/ Send join and remove commands to: majordomo@MormonsToday.com Put appropriate commands in body of the message: To join: subscribe mormon-news To leave: unsubscribe mormon-news To join digest: subscribe mormon-news-digest - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:00:24 -0800 From: "TJ Nunes" Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules Beware, this is long. (If you remember, I am a novelist.) Linda wrote: > I've been trying (without a lot of success) to get stuff done in the > morning and start writing from 1-4 each day, but it's not working. I think writing first might really help you with the rest of the day. Some people are disciplined enough to write later (or even during the night), but I find that I have to be fresh in order to be in my best writing form. > I would really like to know your secret for HOW you motivate them to work. With each child the motivation is different. My oldest son (11) loves to play computer games and read books. More rarely, he plays with friends. So he has to get his chores done before he can do any of those things. Although sometimes when he's having a rough day (meaning a lot of homework), we'll compromise and give him an hour doing something he wants to do before hitting the chores--if he promises not to complain while he does them. (And sometimes when he has too much homework, I let him off chores altogether. After all, he's a year ahead in school already and I don't want him too stressed.) I find it helps for me to sympathize with him if he's feeling overwhelmed or simply doesn't want to do something (with the idea that every feeling is validated, but not necessarily condoned). Once he knows I understand his feelings, we'll commiserate together for a while and then he'll go and do exactly what he should. He even gets up early in the morning to practice on the piano so that he won't have to do it after school. I don't wake him up for this, but let him take full responsibility. If he doesn't get up, he'll have to practice later. After the first few weeks, he has never missed a morning. I tell him he must practice, but he chooses when. Now he even wakes up the girls so one of them has time to practice the piano before school as well. My oldest daughter (9) is motivated by a desire to play with friends. If she wants to play, she has to finish her chores and practice the piano first. And she has to do these things quickly in order to have time to play before Dad comes home and we have dinner. My only problem with her is getting her to do a good job, and I have to check her chores occasionally to keep her on her toes. I've been known to call out, "Play something of value!" many times as she practices on the piano because she has already sped through all her assigned songs. My second daughter loves to please, but she is a dreamer and I often have to remind her what she should be doing. For instance, she would never remember to practice the piano if someone didn't remind her. (She makes up wonderful songs, though, when she finally gets to the piano.) I used to sit her down every day after school and have a conversation like this: "So what are you going to do now, Catia?" "Change out of my uniform?" "Yes. And then?" "Go to the bathroom?" (Yes, she needs reminding still at age seven because she's in dreamland even when nature calls.) "And then?" "My chores." (Or playing the piano if she wasn't the one who practiced that morning.) "So we have uniform, bathroom, and chores, right?" "Right! And then I can play." "Yep. Go to it, then. And let me know as soon as you're done." (This so that she knows I expect results--she loves reporting back.) As the past two years have gone by, I no longer need to do this as much with her. She knows what needs to be done and does it--except for remembering her piano practicing on her own which we are still working on. She still likes to come and tell me when she's done. I think it has helped having her (and the other two) in school. When I used to homeschool them, I had to be more vigilant about chores because they were accustomed to me mandating everything. The school I send them to now has done a great job teaching them responsibility and duty. I understand that you are reluctant to use negative reinforcement. But taking away a privilege is not necessarily negative. I believe it teaches them cause and effect. Giving children a strong work ethic will only help them succeed in life, and if you don't do it, who will? It may sound cruel, but basically we have to find out what it is that our children care about and withhold that privilege if they don't cooperate. When they do participate, give them what they want (within reason, of course). What the privilege is will vary with each child, but I'm sure you can find something that will work. Be strong and firm. Don't be mean, but allow them to suffer the consequences of their choices. (Be sure they know what the consequences will be before you begin!) I would also suggest reading several child care books. This is how I have found many ideas that actually work with my particular children. I do give a lot of verbal positive reinforcement--and hugs and tickles. I also used to ALWAYS check chores when they were done and make them do it again when it wasn't right. Sometimes my oldest daughter would clean her room four times before she could go play. I had to keep coming back in to "help" her find the mess. (But it is important not stand over them every second or else they won't become self-motivated--if that makes sense. Leave for a while and come back in to give encouragement and then leave again, repeating as often as necessary.) Now I just have to ask if her chores are good enough to be checked and she knows exactly what that means. Another thing I did was to sit the children down at a special home evening where we wrote out all the chores on slices of a paper pie (pieces were of varying sizes to show the time it takes to do different chores). I included shopping, laundry, writing, and my husband's work, as well as all the other chores in the house. The children could clearly see how much work there was to do--impossible for one or two people. Then we talked about responsibility and how important it is that we all pull our own weight in the family. I made a very big deal out of the whole evening and even let the children pick out the chores they felt they could be responsible for. After that night, I noticed a big difference in their attitudes. Also, I have noticed that it helps when BOTH parents check up on the chores in the beginning and then later at least once a week. For us, having regular chores every day helps develop the habit of working. I don't change jobs weekly like some families because it never worked for us. On Saturdays, we all clean together and usually the children end up doing something other than their regular chores. I believe that children, like authors, need deadlines. On school days, chores have to be finished before Dad comes home. In the summer, they have to be done before noon and before other privileges (playing, computer, etc.). On Saturday mornings my husband and I work right along with the children to make sure it's done well because this is the day we're really teaching them HOW to clean. Once they finally understood that we were going to do NOTHING but clean until it was done well, they buckled right down and worked together to get it done as fast as possible. And also like writers, I believe children need a day away from work. So on Sundays, we have no official chores. We do pitch in to clean up after meals and to put away the three totes of Legos and blocks we customarily bring out for Sunday family play, but nothing else. I almost never use the TV as an incentive for doing chores, though I must say that I do let the little boys watch an hour or so of learning programs or certain videos while the others are at school. I especially love the animal show Zaboomafoo or whatever it's called. Not only does it teach, but it frees me to write uninterrupted for a half hour. (Yay!) After a time chores will become a habit. One day you'll look up and say, "Wow, they're actually helping!" Of course, we still have moments when I have to lock myself in my room and calm down before I say or do something I might regret, but mostly life with my crew is pretty organized . . . and even fun. But it does take a long time. I would really recommend the special family night and that you involve your husband so that they understand how important this is to the whole family. > As for the shopping; I admit I'm a control freak when it comes to the I know this is one of the hardest areas for women to relinquish. But unless your husband is totally unable to do it, I say let him go shopping on his way home from work. Perhaps go with him the first few times and talk about why you don't buy certain brands, etc. But the bottom line is that you will save hours of precious writing time, and he will get it done much quicker than you can with the kids. He may even enjoy it. I found that my husband did come home with some interesting things at first, but after a while he was better at finding the deals and knowing a good price than I was. It's sort of like the chore thing--you just survive through the first few months and life will get better. If your husband doesn't have time then that's another issue, but if he's willing to try, I say give him a few months to learn how to shop. If he blows the budget, then serve him beans and rice from your storage, with a side dish of whatever weird thing he bought. (Now, if he's habitual spender, this might not work, so use your own judgment!) > Also, do you exercise at all, and where do you fit that in, if you're in Aaaah, exercise. The bane of my existence. This is probably more than anyone on this list wants to know but . . . I love to fit into my clothes. Every time I have a baby, I exercise and watch what I eat religiously until the weight is gone--usually about three months. Imagine my surprise when I still couldn't get rid of the weight from baby number five after a grueling six months. I finally gave up and decided to worry about the extra pounds after I weaned the baby. Well, after about 15 months of simply not eating at the computer, the weight came off. But I am left with flab--AND LOTS OF IT! With a three-week trip to the European coast looming this summer, I have become newly enthused at becoming fit. So now each week I do three or four sessions of walking and three of horrible/grueling/painful toning exercises. The walking I do at night, usually with my dog and one or two of my older kids or a neighbor. That's no problem. But the toning exercises are another story. These I detest utterly and that means I have to do them first thing in the morning--before I give myself excuses not to do them. Once I start, I don't have a problem finishing, but starting is pure torture! In a way it's like writing. I love to write, but sometimes I hate the idea of turning on the computer and sitting in one place. Or I get nervous about the house and yard or about the errands I need be doing. But I have learned that I need to write first or I may never get to it at all. That's why I write first thing in the morning (or second thing on the mornings I've scheduled to do those stupid toning exercises--YUCK!). But this is simply the way I work. You may be different. I don't worry about scheduling exercise when I have an pressing deadline. With me, exercise is always the first thing I throw out if I need more time. If I get around to it, that's fine, but I'm not going to lose sleep over the issue. Because of the steady way I work, though, I seldom have deadlines that demand more than normal day's work. I know many authors who indulge in a feast or famine way of writing, but that has never appealed to me. I guess it's a matter of finding how you work best. Linda, your baby is still small so don't be too hard on yourself. You'll have a lot of time to worry about exercise when your hormones return to normal. (And after your children start taking responsibility for their chores.) Take a walk when you can, but for now you had probably better concentrate on your baby and your novel--in that order! Hope this helps, Rachel _______________________ Rachel Ann Nunes (noon-esh) Best-selling author of the Ariana series and This Time Forever Web page: http://www.rachelannnunes.com E-mail: rachel@rachelannnunes.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:05:39 -0700 From: "Alan Rex Mitchell" Subject: [AML] Depictions of Jesus Jonathan, I know this is and old topic, and I hate to bring it up, but... The BBC has come of with there own version of what Jesus looked like. Find it at http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/tv_and_radio/newsid_1243000/1 243954.stm To me, He looks quite Arabic other that the green eyes, which I endorse because they are the same color as mine. Alan Mitchell - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:11:56 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Fictionalizing Reality One of the best pieces of work I've ever seen is I CANNOT TELL A LIFE, which takes reality through a person's eyes, though the person can't get it right all the time. (So is that fiction?) We clearly said in the front that this was a "novel" biography. Oh well, we were threatened with a law suit. I don't think our culture is ready for it. Marilyn Brown - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:16:23 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Las Vegas Booksigning FUN! Oh, for a brave mother! Marilyn Brown - ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret Young To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [AML] Las Vegas Booksigning > How wonderful, Linda! I remember so well when I had a baby with me during a > book signing. It was my first signing, and Julia was only two months old. Of > course, I didn't get nearly as much attention as the other writer > there--Barbara Barrington whatever-her-last-name-is. She had a crowned, > mini-skirted beauty queen with her. Barbara was doing make-overs, and I was > just sitting there trying to look professional. My mother came by and said > loudly, "This is the best book in all of Mormonism. I'm so thrilled to meet > you, Sister Young!" A few minutes later, another lady came by and said, "Well, > I don't usually buy fiction, but I heard someone say this was the best book in > Mormonism, so I'll buy it." - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:39:38 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules Good, Kellene. I got up at 4:30 in the morning. Marilyn Brown - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kellene Adams > For the past four years, I have written after my children go to bed. Some > night I crawl into bed at 4 p.m. [MOD: I assume a.m. is meant here and in > the following sentences.] Some nights I'm in bed by 2 p.m. And other > nights when I can't even prop my eyes up with toothpicks, I'm in bed by > midnight. By probably 80 percent of the time, I'm up until 2 p.m. or later > writing. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:54:05 -0700 From: Thom Duncan Subject: Re: [AML] Orson Scott CARD, _Ender's Game_ (Review) "D. Michael Martindale" wrote: > > I'll tell you what's not to like. In the short story, and even more so > in the novel, Card horribly telegraphs the surprise ending, making it no > surprise at all. One of the reasons why I can't see why the short story won a Hugo. The novel and its sequels are great and succeed on many levels, but the short story's popularity has always been a mystery to me. - -- Thom Duncan Playwrights Circle an organization of professionals - -------------------------- Shameless Plug - ------------------------------- Don't miss the Playwrights Circle Summer Festival at UVSC! *J. 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I'm defining 'inspirational' as follows: = a work that confirms what I already know or believe to be true, but which = motivates me to live my life more in keeping with I already think is true. = And 'interesting,' I define as: a work that tells me something I didn't = already know or hadn't already thought of, which causes me to rethink = previously held convictions and live my life accordingly. Bad definitions, probably, and also probably a false dichotomy. Still, I = think there's some value in this. What I suspect is that for most Mormons = 'inspirational' is very high praise indeed, and 'interesting' is pretty = luke-warm. But there also exists a certain kind of Mormon, I think, who is = essentially immune to inspirational works, and for whom 'interesting' is = the highest praise possible. I'm certainly in that camp. I think the = last time I was ever inspired by anything I read or heard was 1977, when I = read President Kimball's talk "A Gospel Vision of the Arts." Greatest = talk since the King Follett discourse. And it was mostly inspiring = because it was so darn interesting. Anyone else feel the same way? =20 Eric Samuelsen - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:43:30 -0500 From: Richard Johnson Subject: Re: [AML] Orson Scott CARD, _Ender's Game_ (Review) At 01:28 AM 3/22/2001 -0700, you wrote: Let me emphasize again, if you >haven't read it, do so at once. Order it anonymously online if you have >to. They'll protect your identity, and your shameful secret will be >safe. > >-- >D. Michael Martindale >dmichael@wwno.com Hanging head in desolation. I am a Card fan. I read all the Alvin Maker series, _The Lost Boys_ (for which I wrote a review for the list, but didn't send it when someone else beat me to the punch) and one of my favorite books, of which I have purchased more than a dozen copies which I mailed to my children and to my Stake President etc. is _A Storyteller in Zion_ but, for whatever reason, I just never had a copy of _Ender's Game_ in my hands. This last Christmas, one of my sons gave me a copy of _Ender's Shadow_ which he had finished on the plane coming home for Christmas. I didn't read it instantly because my wife picked up the book first, and we have a rule in our house that no one starts a book while someone else is still reading it, so I waited for her to finish. FINALLY, I read the book. It took a couple of days, then I bought _Ender's Game_ at Goodwill, finished it in about a day, and am now in the middle of _Speaker for the Dead_ but indeed, some of us are a little slow. [MOD: Let me clarify here that multiple reviews of a book are accepted, indeed encouraged! Richard, if you're reading this post and if you still have the review, please feel free to post it.] Richard B. Johnson Husband, Father, Grandfather, Puppeteer, Playwright, Writer, Director, Actor, Thingmaker, Mormon, Person, Fool I sometimes think that the last persona is the most important http://www2.gasou.edu/commarts/puppet/ Georgia Southern University Puppet Theatre - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:53:27 -0800 (PST) From: William Morris Subject: [AML] Writing Groups All of this talk about writing schedules has raised the following question for me: Do any of you who are writing on a regular basis use a writer's group or some sort of peer response set-up? The reason I ask is that writer's groups proliferate like rabbits here in the Bay Area (a by-product of all the would-be published authors who swarm to the region, no doubt) and all the non-Mormon writers I know here swear by them, wouldn't dare try and publish work without them. Generally they meet weekly or bi-monthly either during the lunch hour or on a weeknight. I know that D. Michael runs a fairly active Web-based peer review group---how do the rest of you get feedback? Is it a 'must'? If so, how much time should you allow in your writing schedules for such activities? I welcome all comments, commentary, anecdotes, complaints and venting. ~~William Morris, who flirted with a couple of local writer's groups but never committed. What a tease. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:22:45 -0800 From: Ronn Blankenship Subject: Re: [AML] Writing Schedules At 01:07 PM 3/21/01 -0700, Kellene Ricks Adams wrote: >For the past four years, I have written after my children go to bed. Some >night I crawl into bed at 4 p.m. [MOD: I assume a.m. is meant here and in >the following sentences.] Some nights I'm in bed by 2 p.m. And other >nights when I can't even prop my eyes up with toothpicks, I'm in bed by >midnight. By probably 80 percent of the time, I'm up until 2 p.m. or later >writing. "Sunrise is nature's way of telling you it's bedtime." [Ronn] - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:44:09 -0700 From: LuAnnStaheli Subject: Re: [AML] Fame and Ego Eric, Of course you can satarize people's work, when it's a fair comment about the work. You slammed "Soldier of Love" in that column as I recall. That particular song was # 2 on Billboard and went to #1 in Europe. The three songs that followed all landed in the top 5 on Billboard and higher in Europe. His earlier songs did well and were appropriate/comparable to the songs of their time. I'd hardly say Donny's career deserved the tone of the comments you made as I read them to be intended. Perhaps that wasn't your intention at all. We all know how "tone" can be misread in print. In any case, the new CD of Broadway songs is great! (Much better than the ones Barry Manilow did a few years back, and I like Manilow's music, too.) Lu Ann - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:48:41 -0700 From: LuAnnStaheli Subject: Re: [AML] Fame and Ego Marilyn, Of course I was referring to YOU! I really enjoyed your presentation at the Spanish Fork Arts Council Writer's Workshop. The board keeps asking me to do another one of those days, but since I'm now the mother of two and the Vice-President of the Utah Council of Teachers of English (and in charge of their fall conference) finding the time to do one and a whole Saturday to commit to it is impossible. Lu Ann - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:15:38 -0700 From: Steve Subject: Re: [AML] Depictions of Jesus on 3/27/01 7:05 AM, Alan Rex Mitchell at alan@trilobyte.net wrote: > I know this is and old topic, and I hate to bring it up, but... > The BBC has come of with there own version of what Jesus looked like. > Find it at > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/tv_and_radio/newsid_1243000/1 > 243954.stm > To me, He looks quite Arabic other that the green eyes, which I endorse > because they are the same color as mine. What it really looks like is the face of the filmmaker, author, whose picture appears below the reconstruction picture. :-) Steve (Who also votes for, and with, green eyes.) - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:19:34 -0800 (PST) From: "R.W. Rasband" Subject: RE: [AML] Martindale Quote in Deseret Book Catalog My review of Ann Edwards Cannon's "What's a Mother to Do?", which can be found in the AML-List review archive, is quoted on the Signature Book web page that features Cannon's book http://www.signaturebooks.com/reviews/whats.htm ===== R.W. Rasband Heber City, UT rrasband@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:47:33 -0700 From: Steve Subject: Re: [AML] Orson Scott CARD, _Ender's Game_ (Review) on 3/27/01 2:43 PM, Richard Johnson at djdick@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu wrote: > FINALLY, I read the book. It took a couple of days, then I bought _Ender's > Game_ at Goodwill, finished it in about a day, and am now in the middle of > _Speaker for the Dead_ > but indeed, some of us are a little slow. I had to work to get through _Ender's Game_ for the same reason I don't like video games. I wanted to have all the gaming strategy edited out so I could enjoy the story. Obviously, millions disagreed with me and more power to them! However, I really enjoyed all the sequels, _Xenocide_, _Children of the Mind_, and another I can't remember because my brain just froze and I'll have to reboot. [MOD: Perhaps _Speaker for the Dead_, the first sequel, or _Ender's Shadow_, not technically a sequel at all but with the same set of characters and events, told from a different viewpoint--or _Shadow of the Hegemon_, the sequel to *that* book.] Steve - -- Steven Kapp Perry, songwriter and playwright http://www.stevenkappperry.com http://www.playwrightscircle.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:38:36 -0600 From: Larry Jackson Subject: [AML] MN Anticipation High Surrounding Release of Next "Mormon Film": Zion Films Press Release From: Zion Films Press Release To: Mormon News Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:00:00 -0500 Subject: MN Anticipation High Surrounding Release of Next "Mormon Film": Zion Films Press Release 20Mar01 A2 [From Mormon-News] Anticipation High Surrounding Release of Next "Mormon Film" SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH -- Anticipation is high surrounding the release of the latest "Mormon film" from the director of the independent hit film GOD'S ARMY. Richard Dutcher's latest film, BRIGHAM CITY, will open in select theaters nationwide on April 6. The world premiere will be held in Salt Lake City on April 4. In a departure from promotions for Dutcher's previous film, there are no planned public screenings of BRIGHAM CITY. A handful of select press screenings will take place approximately a week before the film opens. GOD'S ARMY was screened to the public sometimes up to a month before the movie opened in a town. Dutcher has only revealed that BRIGHAM CITY is a whodunit, a murder mystery set in the small (fictional) Mormon town of Brigham. Dutcher has also been quoted as saying that the murder mystery only serves as the skeleton of the plot, and that the meat of the story is in how the deeply religious and sheltered characters in the film deal with the horrific crime. During filming in Mapleton, UT last October, cast and crew members reported that access to the script was extremely limited. Actors were only given those pages of the script that contained their scenes, and most of the crew were not told how the film would end. "I have two theories about who the murderer in the movie is," says Jack North, an actor and longtime resident of Utah who plays a supporting role in BRIGHAM CITY. "I'll just have to see it when it comes out in theaters to know if I'm right." Secrecy surrounding the film has only heightened interest. Thousands of new visitors daily are visiting the movie's official web site (http://www.brighamcitythemovie.com ). Dutcher plays the county sheriff (and Mormon bishop) who discovers and must investigate the murder. Also returning to the screen is MATTHEW A. BROWN, better known for his starring role as Elder Allen in Dutcher's film GOD'S ARMY. Brown plays Dutcher's young deputy. BRIGHAM CITY is as yet unrated by the MPAA. Some close to the film are speculating that the nature of the subject matter may possibly lead to the film being given a controversial PG-13 rating. >From Mormon-News: Mormon News and Events Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included Mormon News items may not be posted to the World Wide Web sites without permission. Please link to our pages instead. For more information see http://www.MormonsToday.com/ Send join and remove commands to: majordomo@MormonsToday.com Put appropriate commands in body of the message: To join: subscribe mormon-news To leave: unsubscribe mormon-news To join digest: subscribe mormon-news-digest - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #288 ******************************