From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #302 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Tuesday, April 17 2001 Volume 01 : Number 302 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:12:39 -0600 From: Kellene Adams Subject: Re: [AML] Richard DUTCHER, _Brigham City_ (REVIEW) I can't resist chiming in here because my sister is dorm mother at Ricks College and gets to dormsit more than 200 19-year-old boys, and the stories she tells makes this seem extremely believable--and even tame. Many of the stories she won't even provide details for, they're so disgusting. (Most, of course, are closely tied to bodily functions.) I don't want to start a "let's tell terrible 19-year-old boy tales" chain, but this seems entirely believable to me. In fact, although I served my mission years ago, I seem to recall a few elder photos that made the rounds in my mission that are about on this level. Kellene > At 02:47 PM 4/12/01 -0400, you wrote: >> and showing missionaries on the toilet with other missionaries taking >> pictures isn't weird? (which my just returned missionary daughter thought I >> was making up till her roommate told her that the elders were showing the >> Sister missionaries his photo album with pics of them on the toilet) >> Debbie Brown > > I doubt that's so much proof that LDS missionaries are weird as that they > are 19-year-old boys . . . > > (poe-tay-toe, poe-tah-toe) > > > -- Ronn! :) - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 04:28:18 +0900 From: "Andrew Hall" Subject: [AML] WOOLLEY, _Pillar of Fire_ (BYU Universe) First Book of Mormon fictional history hits the shelves By Melissa Burbidge NewsNet Staff Writer The character in Robert Frost's famous poem "The Road Not Taken" said when the road diverged in two that he or she took the road less traveled by, and that made all the difference. David Woolley, novice author of an unprecedented genre of LDS literature, did just that. With no pretenses or formal writing experience, Woolley bought a computer,engulfed himself in research and began a journey never taken before. This road led Woolley to write the first fictional history of The Book of Mormon, Another Testament of Jesus Christ to ever hit the shelves, he said. The book titled "Pillar of Fire" is the first of an expected nine-volume series Woolley plans to publish within the next 10 years, he said. What Woolley said "is the beginning of something," began almost seven years ago when the desire to read a fictional history of The Book of Mormon left him searching for something that did not exist, he said. Many authors had written fictional history, but no one had stepped in to the historical arena of The Book of Mormon era. "I wanted something authentic that told the Book of Mormon story and incorporated the things scholars have discovered about the time," Woolley said. "I could not sleep at night; story lines of characters kept running through my head. So, I decided I was going to write a historical fiction." A project he anticipated would take a month or two quickly turned into a seven-year endeavor. Woolley's book hit the shelves in October and has been overwhelmingly successful, said Nicole Martin, publicist at Covenant Communications. "The book has surpassed everyone's expectations," Martin said. The popularity of the book can be attributed to various factors, Martin said. However, one BYU professor notes Woolley's talent in creating the book. "Woolley's remarkable narrative skill integrates a voluminous mountain of detail into a vivid and lively story," said Richard H. Cracroft, the Nan Osmond Grass professor in English. Beyond literary skill, Cracroft said this unique story brings a fresh perspective to The Book of Mormon. "We fail to realize all of the complex factors in the human lives that comprise the Book of Mormon story, and this book imaginatively probes such possible complexities and thus makes the story come to life and the message more applicable," Cracroft said. With a doctorate in organizational behavior and professional leadership, and a master's degree in sports psychology, Woolley did not anticipate a literary career or prestige as author of a surprisingly successful series of fictional LDS history, he said. With a full-time position as director of a soccer club, "coach" is what many of his colleagues call him; however, Woolley now takes on a new face as his book soars to the top of the charts. This story was posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2001 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:10:06 -0500 From: Larry Jackson Subject: [AML] MN "Standing for Something" Still Tops LDS Bestseller List: Kent Larsen From: Kent Larsen To: Mormon News Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:20:00 -0400 Subject: MN "Standing for Something" Still Tops LDS Bestseller List: Kent Larsen 12Apr01 A4 [From Mormon-News] Bestsellers: "Standing for Something" Still Tops LDS Bestseller List NEW YORK, NEW YORK -- The paperback version of LDS Church president Gordon B. Hinckley's book, "Standing for Something" remained at the top of the LDS bestseller list, and the rest of the list remains basically the same, including new books by Neal A. Maxwell and James E. Faust. In addition, Elder Jeffrey R. Holland's most recent book joined the list. This week Mormon News' LDS bestseller lists reflects sales from a total of 50 bookstores for the first time. Meanwhile, the two books that have stayed longest on the national lists, Stephen E. Ambrose's "Nothing Like it in the World" and Stephen R. Covey's "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People" actually expanded their presence on the lists. They were joined by Covey's son, Sean Covey, who's book "Seven Habits of Highly Effective Teens" appeared again on Publisher's Weekly's Children's lists. The current titles on US National bestseller lists are: Nothing Like it in the World, by Stephen Ambrose A history of the building of the transcontinental railroad in the US. Ambrose, a highly regarded historian, details the involvement of Mormons in building crucial portions of the road, including the driving of the "golden spike" in the heart of Mormon territory. Currently on the following bestseller lists: This Last List 26 27 Barnes & Noble (Apr 12) Top 100 28 23 New York Times (Apr 15) Non-Fiction Hardcover [Independents - 19] The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, by Stephen R. Covey This ten-year-old personal management classic is still selling strongly. Currently on the following bestseller lists: This Last List 15 15 Amazon.com (Apr 12) Non-Fiction Paperback 65 61 Barnes & Noble Top (Apr 12) Top 100 13 - New York Times (Apr 15) Paperback Advice [Chains - 8] 92 80 USA Today (Apr 12) 5 12 Wall Street Journal (Mar 30) Business Shadow of the Hegemon, by Orson Scott Card The second novel in Card's new series about Bean, Ender's shadow. In this novel, Bean is the tactical genius who wins the Earth for Ender's brother, Peter, the Hegemon. Currently on the following bestseller lists: This Last List 22 23 Amazon.com (Apr 12) Fiction Hardcover The Seven Habits of Highly Effective Teens by Sean Covey The three-year-old version of Stephen R. Covey's personal management classic, written by his son, still sells strongly, and appears on bestseller lists from time to time. Currently on the following bestseller lists: This Last List 5 - Publisher's Weekly (Apr 1) Children's Nonfiction Bestsellers Bestsellers in LDS Bookstores: This Last Title 1 1 Standing for Something: 10 Neglected Virtues That Will Heal Our Hearts and Homes by Gordon B. Hinckley Three Rivers Pr 2 3 The Promise of Discipleship by Neal A. Maxwell Deseret Book 3 2 GospeLink 2001 Demo Version Deseret Book 4 7 Expressions of Faith by Greg Olsen Deseret Book 5 4 Women of Destiny (CD) Deseret Book 6 6 The Teachings of Gordon B. Hinckley by Gordon B. Hinckley Deseret Book 7 10 Stories From My Life by James E. Faust Deseret Book 8 - Easter Dream (Video) LDS Church Distribution 9 14 The Kingdom and the Crown, Vol. 1: Fishers of Men by Gerald N. Lund Deseret Book 10 11 The First Vision by Cary Austin and Greg Newbold Deseret Book 11 5 Happiness: Finders, Keepers by Mary Ellen Edmunds Deseret Book 12 - The Message by Lance Richardson American Family Publishing/Origin Book Sales 13 8 By Small & Simple Things: Recognizing Greatness Day to Day by Anita Canfield Deseret Book 14 12 Of Souls, Symbols, and Sacraments by Jeffrey R. Holland Deseret Book 15 9 Mothers of the Prophets (Revised Edition) by Leonard J. Arrington and Susan Arrington Madsen Deseret Book LDS Books rankings reflect sales rankings at approximately 50 LDS bookstores, generally in the Western United States. Mormon News is actively seeking to expand both the quality of these rankings and the number of stores participating. Bookstores and other vendors of LDS books are urged to contact Mormon News at editor@mormonstoday.com to participate. >From Mormon-News: Mormon News and Events Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included Mormon News items may not be posted to the World Wide Web sites without permission. Please link to our pages instead. For more information see http://www.MormonsToday.com/ Send join and remove commands to: majordomo@MormonsToday.com Put appropriate commands in body of the message: To join: subscribe mormon-news To leave: unsubscribe mormon-news To join digest: subscribe mormon-news-digest ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:48:23 -0600 From: Thom Duncan Subject: Re: [AML] Richard DUTCHER, _Brigham City_ (REVIEW) Ronn Blankenship wrote: > At 02:47 PM 4/12/01 -0400, you wrote: > >and showing missionaries on the toilet with other missionaries taking > >pictures isn't weird? (which my just returned missionary daughter thought I > >was making up till her roommate told her that the elders were showing the > >Sister missionaries his photo album with pics of them on the toilet) > >Debbie Brown > > > > I doubt that's so much proof that LDS missionaries are weird as that they > are 19-year-old boys . . . Maybe that's more like it. I don't know if Ronn remembers this, but back when he and I and Scott Bronson enjoyed contract employment at the MTC, writing and directing training videos, I found myself in the food line with the missionaries. Immediately before us employee types were two sister missionaries and in front of them a string of Elder who were doing something rather infantile (can't recall what it was, after all these years). One of the sister missionaries turned to the other and said, "And we have to call them 'Elder.'" Thom - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:37:34 -0600 From: Margaret Young Subject: [AML] _The Other Side of Heaven_ (Movie) At least two of us on the list, Cory Maxwell and I, got to see the newly finished movie based on Elder John Groberg's book _In the Eye Of the Storm_. The new title (maybe not the final one)--_The Other Side Of Heaven_ is intended to prepare the viewer for a religious flick rather than a wicked storm capable of drowning George Clooney. My reaction: Wonderful. Richard Dutcher was at the showing too. (I know he and the film's director, Mitch Davis, are friends.) I think _God's Army_ told one sort of mission story--complete with the juvenile jokes and inner soul searching, and _The Other Side of Heaven_ tells another--the coming-of-age of a kid from Idaho who gets sent to an island in Tonga, where he is the only "palangi" and must learn not only how to survive, but how to love strangers in a strange land. The photography was superb, and there were some tremendously moving moments. I liked much of what Mitch did with Elder Groberg's book (consolidating characters, for example.) If you know John Groberg's Church talks (which I do, because I'm his proud niece and love listening to him), you will hear several titles in the dialogue: "The Lord's Wind" and "How Beautiful are the Feet." I got a report from Uncle John that on Wednesday, the entire First Presidency and most of the Seventy saw the movie in a private screening, and were universally moved. President Hinckley tapped Mitch Davis with his cane and said, "Well done, young man." Problems with the film? It is occasionally choppy. I had a particular problem with one missing transition where we think people are preparing for a feast and suddenly find ourselves at a funeral. Everyone in my family who attended assumed the wrapped object being buried was a pig for roasting. It took a few moments to realize someone had died, and then to realize who that someone was. (Sorry, I won't get more specific.) It perhaps attempts to cover too much territory--to many of Elder Groberg's wonderful stories--in so little time, but the overall effect is quite remarkable. The audience really feels they've participated in a Tongan mission. After the movie, my family (brothers and sisters, parents, etc--not Bruce, who was teaching) went out to dinner. My son asked my dad how John's feet had recovered from the terrible thing depicted in the movie. Dad said that John couldn't wear shoes for a long time after his mission, that he had a serious fungal infection. Very interesting. I hadn't known that. The other thing that struck me is that I'd be very uncomfortable sitting in a theater watching a movie about myself. John is such a humble man, I imagine it must've been a little hard to watch the actor portraying him so--well, dramatically. And the actor dances with such expertise! (I'd be shocked if my uncle even knows how to do the jitterbug.) My grandparents are briefly portrayed, and I found myself saying, "Wait a minute! That's not what they looked like back then!" One of the touching cameos is in the wedding scene, where the REAL Jean Groberg is smiling next to the actress portraying her. I'm excited for the rest of y'all to see this one. You'll have to wait until the fall. I am truly thrilled by what Mormon film makers are doing. Kudos to Richard Dutcher and Mitch Davis. [Margaret Young] - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:38:04 -0500 From: Larry Jackson Subject: [AML] MN Jan Shipps and the Study of Mormonism: Bloomington IN Herald-Times From: Mark Wright To: Mormon News Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:00:00 -0400 Subject: MN Jan Shipps and the Study of Mormonism: Bloomington IN Herald-Times 8Apr01 N6 [From Mormon-News] Jan Shipps and the Study of Mormonism BLOOMINGTON, INDIANA -- Jan Shipps is not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but she probably knows more about the Church than many members of the Church. A member of the United Methodist church, Shipps is generally regarded as the leading non-member authority on the Church of Jesus Christ. Shipps was first introduced to the Church and its members in 1960 when her husband Tony accepted a position working at the Utah State University library. While she knew little about the Church at first, the members she met piqued her curiosity and she began to research their lifestyle and denomination. As the years went by, her interest in the Church and its culture continued to grow. Many references to the Church and its history found their way into Shipps' graduate work on American history. After her stint in Utah, Shipps moved to Bloomington, Indiana in 1967 with her husband when he accepted a position as a librarian at Indiana University. Although she left the state of Utah, she never lost her fascination with the Church and its people. Generally recognized as the leading non-LDS expert on the history and doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ, Shipps is respected by scholars both within and without the Church. Her fair handed and unbiased writings on the Church reflect a careful balance between admiration for the Church and scholarly commentary on the historical perspectives of years gone by. The opinion of Bruce Olsen, managing director for LDS public affairs at Church headquarters in Salt Lake City, is representative of the high opinion most members of the Church have for Shipps. "Jan Shipps is an excellent scholar and has treated the church honorably and fairly for many years," he said. A more tangible expression of appreciation for Shipps' work was evidenced by a standing ovation given to Shipps by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir during a recent visit to Temple Square for a Choir rehearsal. Shipps and a close friend were enjoying the rehearsal when the Choir director suddenly stopped rehearsal and read a short tribute to Shipps. It was then that the members of the Choir joined in a standing ovation for the 71-year old Shipps. Given her long exposure to the Church and its doctrine, many people wonder why Shipps is not a member. Simply put, Shipps is very happy in her own faith, and after 40 years studying the Church and its history, she respects the Church but remains a staunch Methodist. The other thing that sets Shipps apart from many others who have studied and commented on the Church is that Shipps refuses to exclude Mormonism from the community of Christian faith. In her opinion, "There's no supreme court on Earth that says this is Christian and that is not," she explained. "I say Mormonism is a legitimate way to be Christian. It's just not my way." Shipps' first book to focus solely on the Church was entitled "Mormonism: The Story of a New Religious Tradition," and was published in 1985. Many colleges still use Shipps'. book as a textbook for various religious studies courses. Her most recent work, "Sojourner in the Promised Land: Forty Years Among the Mormons," continues to blend her previous research with her ongoing encounter with the Latter-Day Saints. As a faithful observer for many years, Shipps has carefully presented an unbiased view of the Church that offers a unique perspective that would be absent otherwise. Hopefully, Shipps' respectful attitude and well-researched understanding of the Church can be successfully transferred to others. Source: Researching religion Bloomington IN Herald-Times 8Apr01 N6 http://www.hoosiertimes.com/stories/2001/04/08/lifestyle.010408_SH_J1_CMK 95645.sto By David Horn: Hoosier Times Local Methodist woman is well-regarded among Mormons >From Mormon-News: Mormon News and Events Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included Mormon News items may not be posted to the World Wide Web sites without permission. Please link to our pages instead. For more information see http://www.MormonsToday.com/ Send join and remove commands to: majordomo@MormonsToday.com Put appropriate commands in body of the message: To join: subscribe mormon-news To leave: unsubscribe mormon-news To join digest: subscribe mormon-news-digest - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:11:27 -0600 From: Thom Duncan Subject: Re: [AML] Richard DUTCHER, _Brigham City_ (REVIEW) Kellene Adams wrote: > > I can't resist chiming in here because my sister is dorm mother at Ricks > College and gets to dormsit more than 200 19-year-old boys, and the stories > she tells makes this seem extremely believable--and even tame. Many of the > stories she won't even provide details for, they're so disgusting. (Most, of > course, are closely tied to bodily functions.) A missionary prank I didn't mention in my last post about this subject was when I snuck into the bathroom while my district leader was taking a shower. I pull back the curtain, he turns around, and I get a great shot of his hiney. At the time, we all thought it was hilarious. You mention above that Dutcher's scenes are very tame. He mentioned that himself in one interview, that he DIDN't show some of the grosser stuff. - -- Thom Duncan Playwrights Circle an organization of professionals - -------------------------- Shameless Plug - ------------------------------- Don't miss the Playwrights Circle Summer Festival at UVSC! *J. Golden* - a one-man play by James Arrington, starring Marvin Payne *SFX5* - 5 original short science fiction plays *Peculiarities* - a new full-length play by Eric Samuelsen For more information about the Playwrights Circle and our summer festival: http://www.playwrightscircle.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:07:30 -0600 From: Boyd Petersen Subject: Re: [AML] BECK, _Expecting Adam_ (Review) on 4/13/2001 1:00 PM, Morgan Adair at MADAIR@novell.com wrote: > I don't know if you respect my opinion or not, but I'll give it anyway. My = > wife read the book and passed it to me to read the parts that talked about = > the Nibley household. I took a couple classes from Hugh, and find him to = > be a fascinating person. Beck's descriptions of what it was like growing = > up a daughter of Hugh Nibley rang true to my impressions of him. She = > described a home where ideas and critical thinking were valued above = > everything, including basic hygeine. Her tone was warm and humorous, = > without a trace of criticism. I would recommend the book on the basis of = > the parts that I read, alone, and intend to read the entire book soon. > > MBA > I have truly enjoyed reading this thread about Martha's book and am very impressed by the perceptive readers we have on this list. I really haven't wanted to step into this discussion because I don't want my comments to be taken in the wrong spirit, but I really can't pass up commenting on the point Morgan has raised here. Please note that I have nothing against Martha, and I only respond here because of the perception that Morgan gives that her book portrays accurately what it was like growing up in the Nibley family. Martha is not at all kind in the way she portrays her family, and to say that there is no trace of criticism is to read the text very superficially. Taking a few classes from Hugh would not really place one in a position to know his homelife. While parts of Martha's portrayal of her family may be "true," they are only half true. And sometimes they are completely false (e.g., my wife assures me that the only person who ever used the word "idiot" with any frequency was Martha herself; Hugh only used it frequently when speaking of Orrin Hatch). I do think Martha paints her father in a much kinder light than she does her mother, but neither comes off looking like the kind, generous people they are, but rather like caricatures that are obsessed with knowledge to the exclusion of everything else. Hugh and Phyllis were never, to my knowledge, judgmental about Martha's baby. In fact, they love him and treated him as well or better than they did any of their grandchidren. Additionally, Hugh's brother Reid has a Down Syndrome child and Hugh and Phyllis have always treated her with love, kindness, and great respect. I believe Martha projects a lot of her own misgivings and prejudices onto her parents and I suspect she does the same with the people at Harvard. Martha assures us in both the first chapter and in the "author's note" at the end of the book that this is not a work of fiction, that she is telling the truth, that the material has come straight from her journals, that she has had others read the book to assure that the facts are straight, and that she has been trained by Harvard to accurately tell "just the facts." Have you ever read any other memoir that goes this far out of its way to assure us that it's telling the truth? I have to wonder if it's really her readers that she's trying to convince of her words' truth. To put it mildly, this is revisionist history. The most significant of the many untruths in this book is the fact that, at the time Martha was experiencing everything that led up to and immediately followed Adam's birth, she was a very devout Mormon and saw all these events in very Mormon terms. I know because she confided all this quite intimately to my wife (her sister). However, since breaking with BYU, her "family of origin," Mormonism, and Utah, Martha has revised her past considerably. Since my wife grew up in the same house as Martha (she was so close in age and emotion to Martha that they were like twins) I'd be happy to ask her to share her take on Martha's book and what it was really like growing up in Hugh Nibley's family, if anyone's interested. - --Boyd Petersen - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:19:20 -0600 From: "Tyler Moulton" Subject: Re: [AML] Publisher's Weekly Article on LDS Publishing I obviously can't speak for the article as a whole, but what she says = about Covenant seems fairly accurate. She pulled her quotes from the = interview she had with our VP of marketing, Robby Nichols.=20 Tyler Did the writer present an accurate picture? Did he or she interview the = people quoted and then quote them correctly? barbara hume - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:01:45 -0700 From: "Rachel Ann Nunes" Subject: [AML] Ghost Writer Wanted I've been contacted by a person who would like to have someone write a book for her. Does anyone on this list do that sort of thing? If so, please contact me and I will forward you their e-mail to see if you might be interested. Rachel _______________________ Rachel Ann Nunes (noon-esh) Best-selling author of the Ariana series Web page: http://www.rachelannnunes.com E-mail: rachel@rachelannnunes.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:14:37 -0600 From: Thom Duncan Subject: Re: [AML] WOOLLEY, _Pillar of Fire_ (BYU Universe) Andrew Hall forwarded: > > First Book of Mormon fictional history hits the shelves > By Melissa Burbidge > NewsNet Staff Writer > The first? I don't think so. - -- Thom Duncan Playwrights Circle an organization of professionals - -------------------------- Shameless Plug - ------------------------------- Don't miss the Playwrights Circle Summer Festival at UVSC! *J. Golden* - a one-man play by James Arrington, starring Marvin Payne *SFX5* - 5 original short science fiction plays *Peculiarities* - a new full-length play by Eric Samuelsen For more information about the Playwrights Circle and our summer festival: http://www.playwrightscircle.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:23:50 -0700 From: eedh Subject: [AML] Re: DUTCHER, _God's Army_ These references to GOD'S ARMY remind me of something I'd meant to post at Christmas time. We were watching GOD'S ARMY at my brother-in-law's house. He's an oncologist. I told him AML-list had been discussing whether the elder had thrown his pills in the sink because they might have impaired his ability to give a blessing. My brother-in-law knew exactly what the pills would have been, down to the dosage for the day. He said that they would not have impaired his ability to give the blessing. However, by not taking the medicine he could well have brought about his death. (It's interesting to me that Dutcher appears to have done his homework so well: the number of pills was exactly right for the real dosage of this particular medicine.) Beth Hatch - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:12:00 EDT From: Turk325@aol.com Subject: Re: [AML] BECK, _Expecting Adam_ (Review) [MOD: Folks: I find the current discussion fascinating, and do not want to discourage anyone from sharing information that can help to forward the conversation. However, as moderator I feel the need to remind everyone that this is a *public* forum. Electronic posts not only go out to several hundred subscribers, but are also listed permanently as part of the AML-List Archives, and have been periodically distributed in that format on CD as well to libraries and such. In short, do not share information here that you would be unhappy to see quoted in other settings. Thanks.] In a message dated 4/16/01 12:11:26 PM, bpetersn@burgoyne.com writes: << Since my wife grew up in the same house as Martha (she was so close in age and emotion to Martha that they were like twins) I'd be happy to ask her to share her take on Martha's book and what it was really like growing up in Hugh Nibley's family, if anyone's interested. >> Please do. Kurt Weiland - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:12:44 -0600 From: "Sharlee Glenn" Subject: Re: [AML] BECK, _Expecting Adam_ (Review) Boyd Petersen wrote: > Since my wife grew up in the same house as Martha (she was so close in age > and emotion to Martha that they were like twins) I'd be happy to ask her to > share her take on Martha's book and what it was really like growing up in > Hugh Nibley's family, if anyone's interested. Yes, we are interested! And thank you, Boyd, for taking the time to respond to this thread. Sharlee Glenn glennsj@inet-1.com - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:19:58 -0600 From: Thom Duncan Subject: Re: [AML] BECK, _Expecting Adam_ (Review) Boyd Petersen wrote: > > Since my wife grew up in the same house as Martha (she was so close in age > and emotion to Martha that they were like twins) I'd be happy to ask her to > share her take on Martha's book and what it was really like growing up in > Hugh Nibley's family, if anyone's interested. And on what basis may we assume that your wife's account wouldn't also project her own reality on the truth? My point being that perhaps neither Martha's nor your wife's account could be considered entirely accurate on its own. My wife, for instance, has a very different understanding of what it was like to grow up in the Bromley household than does her sister, who proclaims to this day that her parents were "perfect." I remember being shocked as my adult children would recount to Margie and I what it was like to grow up in the Duncan household -- while some things rang true, much of it was a different place than I remember. I would be interested in hearing what your wife might have to say but, frankly, I would not consider it any more definitive than I would Martha's. - -- Thom Duncan Playwrights Circle an organization of professionals - -------------------------- Shameless Plug - ------------------------------- Don't miss the Playwrights Circle Summer Festival at UVSC! *J. Golden* - a one-man play by James Arrington, starring Marvin Payne *SFX5* - 5 original short science fiction plays *Peculiarities* - a new full-length play by Eric Samuelsen For more information about the Playwrights Circle and our summer festival: http://www.playwrightscircle.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:51:30 -0500 From: Larry Jackson Subject: [AML] re: _The Other Side of Heaven_ (Movie) Margaret Young: At least two of us on the list, Cory Maxwell and I, got to see the newly finished movie based on Elder John Groberg's book _In the Eye Of the Storm_. ... If you know John Groberg's Church talks ... It perhaps attempts to cover too much territory--to many of Elder Groberg's wonderful stories--in so little time, but the overall effect is quite remarkable. The audience really feels they've participated in a Tongan mission. _______________ Elder Groberg's talk this past conference included a powerful mission experience that is also in the book. I read _In the Eye Of the Storm_ because I heard about the movie (on this list) and wondered how a book about a mission to Tonga could be made into an interesting film. I was stunned. I am trying to put together a brief review of the book to post to the list for the review collection, but my draft of only the most exciting parts is still 11 pages long. (Fear not--I know better than to deliver a review that long to this group of distinguished writers.) I am truly struggling to shorten it. I expect the filmmakers had the same problem. The film could include less than half of the wonderful stories in the book and still be full-length and marvelous. I look forward to seeing it. (And my very short book review, I promise.) Larry Jackson ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - - AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature http://www.xmission.com/~aml/aml-list.htm ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #302 ******************************