From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #628 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Thursday, February 28 2002 Volume 01 : Number 628 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:32:30 -0800 From: "Susan Kroupa" Subject: [AML] Agent/Contract Question Hi. As some of you know, I work at Orem Library. I was contacted recently by someone who has sold a children's book to a local publisher, but has been offered one of this publisher's infamous writer-unfriendly contracts. (Let's just say that if this publisher was national, its contracts would be the kind writer's organizations such as the Author's Guild, SFWA and NWU would be warning its members not to sign.) She doesn't have internet access and was hoping to find some help before she signed the contract. Does anyone on this list know of any local agents I might recommend to her who specialize in contracts with local publishers? Or does anyone here have any advice I might pass on to her about negotiating contracts locally? If so, please e-mail me at susank@fiber.net. Thanks! Susan Kroupa - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:32:46 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Third Phase Margaret, we plan on ending the meetings at 4:45, which should give you ample time to get together before the buffet at 6:30. You can meet right there in the Gore auditorium if you'd like. Cheers for your fabulous work! Marilyn Brown - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:00:53 -0700 From: Kathy Fowkes Subject: Re: [AML] Agent/Contract Question Could this discussion about current publishing conditions and climate of the LDS market take place on the list along with sending her the replies? This is a subject I will be needing info on later this year as well. Kathy Fowkes [MOD: I see no reason why it couldn't. I also see no reason why we need to keep the publisher involved anonymous. If public shaming will do anything to change dubious practices, I'm all for it.] Original message from "Susan Kroupa" susank@fiber.net "I was contacted recently by someone who has sold a children's book to a local publisher, but has been offered one of this publisher's infamous writer-unfriendly contracts. (Let's just say that if this publisher was national, its contracts would be the kind writer's organizations such as the Author's Guild, SFWA and NWU would be warning its members not to sign.) She doesn't have internet access and was hoping to find some help before she signed the contract. Does anyone on this list know of any local agents I might recommend to her who specialize in contracts with local publishers? Or does anyone here have any advice I might pass on to her about negotiating contracts locally?" - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:05:30 -0500 From: "Debra Brown" Subject: [AML] Fw: MN Internet: Websites for LDS Musicians: Kent Larsen 25Feb02 US NY NYC I4 Websites for LDS Musicians NEW YORK, NEW YORK -- With the popularity of MP3 services, the growth of websites for individual artists has grown substantially. It seems every musician has his own website, and several services, including mp3.com, provide a way for musicians to post their own information. There are many LDS artists among the group. The sites we feature this week include several LDS musician's websites that have come to our attention recently, including two hosted on mp3.com. Also included is choir music publisher Copy Pack Music and Margo Edgeworth, a composer who won the New Era magazine's music contest six years in a row. Mormon Internet Information: Mormon-related domain names: at least 3,000 Estimated web pages mentioning Mormonism: over 500,000 Newly Listed Mormon Websites: Steven Stewart http://www.stevenstewart.com MP3.com-hosted website for LDS vocalist Steven Stewart. Site includes free mp3's, links to purchase albums, a schedule of live events and background information on Stewart. Copy Pack Music http://www.copypackmusic.com/ Choir music vendor that provides 'copyable' music - which can be copied for use by choirs. Site includes online electronic ordering, samples and information about the company. Margo Edgeworth http://www.margoedgeworth.com/ Composer Edgeworth won the New Era magazine's music contest six years in a row. Her site offers her album for purchase electronically, a biography, news, photographs and mp3 samples. Ellis Hadlock http://artists.mp3s.com/info/184/ellis_hadlock.html MP3.com-hosted website for LDS guitar player Hadlock. Site includes free mp3's, links to purchase albums, a schedule of live events and background information on Hadlock. >From Mormon-News: Mormon News and Events Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included Mormon News items may not be posted to the World Wide Web sites without permission. Please link to our pages instead. For more information see http://www.MormonsToday.com/ - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:06:31 -0500 From: "Debra Brown" Subject: [AML] Fw: MN Grammy-nominated artist releases patriotic Album, Plans National Tour: Covenant Communications Press Release 19Feb02 US UT SLC A2 Grammy-nominated artist releases patriotic Album, Plans National Tour AMERICAN FORK, UTAH -- Grammy-nominated pianist David Glen Hatch's new CD, Let Freedom Ring, is a collection of newly arranged patriotic songs that capture the American spirit. He will be showcasing these songs on a nationwide patriotic tour this fall. "September 11 left me with a desire to heal troubled hearts and to remind us all of the privileges of patriotism and the blessings of being an American. Music is my language to soothe the soul and make the heart soar," said David Glen Hatch, nationally acclaimed concert pianist. "With that in mind, I specifically chose songs that would show America's resilience through our tragedies and triumphs." Let Freedom Ring features traditional favorites, folk medleys, Broadway and pop hits, and original songs. "The tapestry of America is woven with the familiarity of Yankee Doodle and Battle Hymn of the Republic, the gentleness of the Shenandoah Valley and the exuberance of Dixieland, and with medleys that touch back to the Revolutionary and Civil Wars," said Hatch. "From a Distance became an anthem of the Gulf War and God Bless America defines us as Americans today." Two songs from the Broadway hit Les Miserable give unique perspective on America's stance after the September 11 attack. "Do You Hear the People Sing was written about the French Revolution and becomes a battle cry for Americans as we embark on our own war against terrorism. One line in the song was rewritten to better reflect our current struggle," said Rich Smith, vocal producer. "Bring Him Home is a plea for the safe return of those men and women who have left home and family to safeguard our freedom." "The sensitivity of Let Freedom Ring is astounding and gratifying," said Utah Senator Orrin G. Hatch. "The well-arranged songs and spectacular performances will stir patriotic feelings like no other CD." Senator Hatch, a talented musician in his own right, wrote the two original songs for the CD: Morning Breaks on Arlington and Heal Our Land. "Many people who know Senator Hatch politically don't realize that he has the special gift of capturing the thoughts and emotions we all feel and putting them to music," said Smith. "His ability to vividly show the feelings of sacrifice and reverence in Arlington Cemetery is particularly significant because his brother is buried there." "The variety of music allows everyone to connect with their patriotic feelings through a musical medium with which they are comfortable," said Phil Reschke, Managing Editor of Multimedia at Covenant Communications. "From sweeping orchestral pieces to Broadway hits, and from a top-40 tune to an American folk medley, there really is something for everyone." "David is a musical powerhouse who loves to write and arrange, but his passion is playing," said Smith. "He is a true pianist that people respond to because he plays from his soul." David Glen Hatch will be embarking on a national tour during the summer and fall of 2002 and will include the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in Washington D.C., George Washington University in D.C., The Arlington National Cemetery Ampitheater, and Carnegie Hall in New York City. "This is the largest project I have experienced in my 22 years of recording and I want to perform these powerful pieces in the national locations that are steeped in history." Let Freedom Ring, by David Glen Hatch, arrangements by Marden Pond and Richard Smith ($15.95 CD, $9.95 cassette) is published by Covenant Communications and is available at bookstores everywhere, or at www.covenant-lds.com. Founded in 1958 and headquartered in American Fork, Utah, Covenant Communications publishes more than 100 book, audio, and software titles annually, and is the largest independent publisher in the LDS market. ### About the Artist and Arrangers David Glen Hatch is recognized as a distinguished performer, recording artist, and educator. He has toured extensively throughout the United States, Canada, Europe, Russia, and the Far East. Dr. Hatch holds a Bachelor of Music degree from Brigham Young University, and both Masters of Music and DMA degrees from the Conservatory of Music, University of Missouri-Kansas City. He has been a semifinalist twice at the Gina Bachauer International Piano Competition, has received the LDSBA "Listener's Choice Award," and received two Grammy Award nominations. Dr. Hatch lives in Orem, Utah. Marden Pond received degrees from Brigham Young University, Arizona State University, and the University of Northern Colorado. He is the recipient of Utah's Composer of the Year award and winner of the Forte Music Composition Competition. Richard Smith is an award-winning composer and arranger who has worked with many leading studios, including The Walt Disney Company and Warner Bros. Pictures. Source: Grammy-nominated artist releases patriotic Album, Plans National Tour Covenant Communications Press Release 19Feb02 A2 >From Mormon-News: Mormon News and Events Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included Mormon News items may not be posted to the World Wide Web sites without permission. Please link to our pages instead. For more information see http://www.MormonsToday.com/ - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:08:41 -0500 From: "Debra Brown" Subject: [AML] Fw: MN News Briefs: Director Chosen for Film of "Edgar Mint" Director Chosen for Film of "Edgar Mint" NEW YORK, NEW YORK -- Hollywood film studio United Artists has hired director Michael Cuesta to direct an adaptation of Mormon author Brady Udall's novel, "The Miracle Life of Edgar Mint." Cuesta, who is currently being considered for six IFP/West Independent Spirit Awards for his debut film "L.I.E.," will adapt the novel for film along with his brother, Gerald. "Edgar Mint," which was pursued by numerous directors, became something of a cult favorite when it was published last year. Udall was even compared to John Irving and even Charles Dickens because of the book. The story tells of a half-Apache youth who is run over by a mail truck, is raised by a Mormon foster family and joins the LDS Church. The film version is produced by Single Cell Pictures partners Michael Stipe and Sandy Stern. Source: Cuesta pulls off 'Miracle' for UA, Cell Daily Variety 14Feb02 A2 >From Mormon-News: Mormon News and Events Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included Mormon News items may not be posted to the World Wide Web sites without permission. Please link to our pages instead. For more information see http://www.MormonsToday.com/ - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:38:43 -0700 From: "Eric D. Snider" Subject: Re: [AML] Lime Jello and Cultural Imperialism I don't see much church-related Jell-O anymore, either. And this topic reminded me of something else: All the articles about the church from "outsiders" lately have mentioned the odd notion of us calling non-Mormons "gentiles." But does anyone in the church actually use this term anymore? Or do the non-Mormons just think we do? This may be another thing that, like Jell-O, has become more stereotype than truth. Eric D. Snider - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:27:35 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] YOUNG & GRAY, _Bound for Canaan_ (Review) An excellent review, Jeff. I am excited about reading BOUND FOR CANAAN. I loved ONE MORE RIVER TO CROSS. There was not one "false move" in it musically. (The way I judge excellent writing.) Thanks! Marilyn Brown - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:53:31 -0500 From: Richard Johnson Subject: [AML] _Angels in America_ on HBO? I finished my diatribe a few moments ago (almost one oclock our time) and staggered to the bedroom without logging out of my ISP,etc. My wife had left the TV on and Diane Sawyer was guest on Larry King live. She announced that her husband's (Mike Nichols) next project is a multi part version of Angels in America for HBO. I may be the only person on the list who doesn't know that, but I found it very interesting. HBO may finally get me (If I can't go over to someone else's house to watch). Richard B. Johnson Husband, Father, Grandfather, Puppeteer, Playwright, Writer, Teacher, Director, Actor, Thingmaker, Mormon, Person, Fool I sometimes think that the last persona is the most important http://www.PuppenRich.com - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:24:40 -0800 From: "jana" Subject: Re: [AML] Lime Jello and Cultural Imperialism I have yet to attend a Mormon funeral (inside or outside of Utah) without several varieties of jello. When I lived in student housing at the U a few years ago, I had neighbors who bought jello by the case (watermelon seemed to be the favorite flavor). Jana Remy - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:34:13 -0700 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [AML] Lime Jello and Cultural Imperialism Do you have your clump of over-sized plastic grapes? If not, shame on you, Steve! Marilyn Brown - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:27:15 -0600 From: Jonathan Langford Subject: Re: [AML] Re: Cultural Imperialism (Apologies to Richard for using his post as a jumping-off point for a rant of sorts. His comment touched off some thoughts and responses that have been bubbling around for a while.) Richard Johnson (in a post with a number of excellent points and examples) wrote that cultural imperialism >is, like many terms, one of >those coined by academia: 1. to limit the discussion to the initiated, or >2. to create a term that can be perjorative by its very use, or 3. To write >about something old that has been written over and over but if one uses >new terminology, the triteness of the topic and tratment is hidden. While I can see where Richard is coming from, I think this is to some degree an unfair caricature. Yes, that's one side of the academic equation, so to speak: the self-interest and ego games one finds, in one form or another, in any profession. But the other side is the (in my opinion) attempt to do something inherently difficult, perhaps impossible: that is, to look past one's own cultural and intellectual blind spots to see what's been left out. Yes, there's a lot that goes on in the name of cultural criticism that's questionable, and indeed from what we have seen this approach is just as liable as any other, when in the ascendancy, to the kinds of abuse of authority described in D&C 121. Still, that's not a reason to throw out the entire approach, or what good things can be learned from it. I'm bridging back here, somewhat, to the thread on agendas in literature classes, except that really what I'm talking about is political agendas in literature departments. Personally, I've decided that there's no one right way to read, interpret, and teach literature, but that there are many different approaches, each of which (so far as I can tell) embeds some fundamental assumptions that are at odds with what we as Mormons believe to be true (based, of course, on my understanding of what that truth is), but with significant areas of agreement as well. I see no reason why Mormons can't be good members of the Church and at the same time engage in Marxist criticism, feminist criticism, deconstructionism, archetypal criticism, textual criticism, composition theory, structuralist criticism, or any other brand to which I've been exposed or which that individual might come up with on his or her own--so long as we remember that (as I think Elder Holland once put it, back before he was "Elder" Holland) our membership is in the Kingdom and our passport is to the realm of academic study, not the reverse. I've seen the English department at BYU all but literally (well, I guess literally, when I consider some of what's happened there) split apart by arguments over what are fundamentally the doctrines of men--in large part, I think, because members of the department were unwilling to allow goodwill, spiritual soundness, and intellectual integrity on the part of those whose approach to literary studies differed from their own. (At least that's how it appeared to me as a graduate student, and through my ongoing contacts with department members and students who have been there since.) I'm not speaking of any particular side here, but of all sides in the discussion, from what I could see (though by no means all individuals). Which is a tremendous shame, because I think the result has been that at BYU, which should be a center of talking about what the gospel means in literary terms--with an openness to a variety of different approaches and the insights they can offer--what I see is more a matter of armed camps, with little cross-conversation, and not even that much discussion of how the gospel relates to literature within any of those camps. Though perhaps that's changed of recent years. Gideon, you others who are there: has it? I would be so pleased to hear that it has. And so I feel very strongly about this matter of allowing validity to all different approaches, even if we may not see their value at first; even if we may see the sorts of abuses of our own position that make it difficult not to be angry and take to our own tents. Dialogue and conversation mean not just the freedom to speak, but a sense that one is listened to and heard. My appeal is that we be willing to listen. (Well, I certainly went off on it that time. Never did get to my thoughts about how the "imperialism" fits into cultural imperialism. Another post, perhaps.) Jonathan Langford Speaking for myself, not AML-List jlangfor@pressenter.com - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:04:10 -0700 From: "Marianne Hales Harding" Subject: Re: [AML] Lime Jello and Cultural Imperialism >Have I simply chosen the jello-less wards of Zion? Or is this a joke that >grew far beyond it's base in reality? I think the joke has definitely grown but it is also a part of our heritage. I mean, I hardly ever eat jello in day-to-day life but I have fond fond memories of my grandmother fixing dinner and placing jello, each piece seated on a bed of lettuce because it was, after all, a jello *salad*, in a bowl at each of our plates. Some form of jello is often eaten at extended family dinners too because it's so darn easy to make. So perhaps the jello does not run as freely as the water in Cedar City's gutters but it's still out there. And I'm glad it does because it makes my Green Jello Olympic Pin more valuable.... :-) Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:48:00 -0700 From: margaret young Subject: Re: [AML] Third Phase This seems like a really logical, good choice. Copying this to Darius. Shall we just do it? It would mean that we wouldn't get refreshments at Nan's place and we wouldn't be able to see the decor of Michael's or Clive's homes, but this seems like an obvious solution. List members should already be there. I'm in favor. Brown wrote: > Margaret, we plan on ending the meetings at 4:45, which should give you > ample time to get together before the buffet at 6:30. You can meet right > there in the Gore auditorium if you'd like. Cheers for your fabulous work! > Marilyn Brown > > -- > AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature > - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:57:09 -0700 From: margaret young Subject: Re: [AML] Third Phase Darius Gray has just confirmed that he can be present at 5:00 in the Gore auditorium for our "third phase" discussion--if there's interest. Let's do it. I hope there's enough interest and enough people present for us to have a really good discussion. And dear Marilyn, thank you so much for your kind words. Brown wrote: > Margaret, we plan on ending the meetings at 4:45, which should give you > ample time to get together before the buffet at 6:30. You can meet right > there in the Gore auditorium if you'd like. Cheers for your fabulous work! > Marilyn Brown > > -- > AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature > - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:33:48 -0700 From: "Annette Lyon" Subject: [AML] Finnish Saunas (was: Cultural Imperialism) Richard Johnson wrote: Soon you become part of the Sauna Culture which is Finnish, but not limited to Finland and not the same in every place, but it is moral and common. (While I was in Finland, President McKay went to the sauna-- Not the same one _I_ went to but, non the less a sauna - with sauna ladies.) In my first city, our Relief Socity President was a Sauna-lady, who often expressed her frustration that none of the missionaries would ever come to her sauna (we weren't "completely" in the Sauna Culture after all- difficult to stand up and preach to a woman, not your mother or wife, who has seen you as nature created you). In defense of a country and custom I love, I must say that in the three years I lived in Finland, I *never* heard of or saw sauna ladies, and can guarantee that none of our missionaries went into a sauna with them. Even public saunas are segregated by gender. I know of at least one general authority and his wife who tried the sauna (a private one--he went twice, she only once, as she was self conscious without clothing and feared for her perm), but both times the men and women went separately--as Finns generally do. The only time I am aware of that Finns mingle the sexes in the sauna is between couples and families with small children. My mother (born in Helsinki), once she came anywhere near puberty, didn't go to the sauna with her father present. Missionaries are welcome to enjoy the sauna (in fact, they often have their first experience their first night in the country, and a their final one the night before they leave--both in the mission home), but the sisters and elders are never together. Finns, like most Europeans, are far more relaxed about the body and nudity, but they still have propriety, and the missionary rules are universal. From my perspective, either things must have changed significantly since Richard was there regarding mission rules, or his mission president was unaware of sauna ladies being with his elders "as nature created" them. Annette Lyon - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:39:06 -0700 From: "Marianne Hales Harding" Subject: RE: [AML] Compensation and Art >But modern sensibilities just can't support a system of direct >patronage, anymore (a fascinating illustration of this takes place in >"The Philadelphia Story"), mainly for purposes of pride and the >near-universal suspicion of wealth. >So we don't have direct patronage, for good or ill. Personally, I'm not >sure if a reintroduction of direct patronage would be a good thing or >not. Probably not. Frankly, as a free-market capitalist, I'd say that >the absence of direct patronage indicates that the problems entirely >outweigh the benefits. I pondered this very problem in my last subsistance job since, truly, the only reason I was there was for the money & the health insurance and the company I was with spent far more than my salary in charitable pursuits across the country every year. I wrote a particularly glorious proposal for Corporate Patronage (in color and everything :-), with all of the problems of accountability, representation etc. figured out. I have to brag because I do think it was a good idea, not an idea any corporation would buy but still a darn good idea. Basically the company would provide a basic admin assistant-type salary with health insurance benefits in exchange for things like a logo in the program/on posters/published plays/movie credit, recognition of sponsorship in all bios, ads & introductions, a thank you in any awards acceptance speeches etc. Other basic sponsorship stuff like tix to opening night, coming to opening night galas (and being recognized for sponsorship there), doing promo appearances for the company. Your basic lovey-dovey-big-sponsor relationship. In the proposal I thought of every objection they might have and tried to resolve the concern. Alas, the sticking point, I think, was the uniqueness of the idea and the fact that they had no guarantee that I would "hit the bigs." After all, that's where those sponsorship perks would really pay off. Their logo in the program doesn't really do anything in communities where they don't build homes. And they could get good press from their other, less expensive charitable endeavors. I think if I were working there today they might sponsor individual shows but the patronage thing was too big of a gamble. Which bums me out. Because I truly hate the office grind, but not as much as I hate starving or being without medical care. And if anyone out there is the owner of a company and is thinking "I like this idea; I'd like to sponsor this inventive wonderful playwright" then please contact me as THE OFFER IS STILL OPEN. Marianne Hales Harding _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:58:22 -0700 From: Kathy Fowkes Subject: [AML] Subcontracting Art? (was: Compensation and Art) I'd like to take this in a slightly different direction, if only to satisfy my curiosity and justify my ire. Here in Arizona there's a little town called Sedona where many artists ply their trade. One in particular stood out when I was up there with my husband a few years ago. He had his work in every little tourist shop in Arizona, and I wondered to my husband how he could produce so much. He said the artist doesn't produce it all. He does the "prototype" and has a huge group of hirelings who "hand" make all the rest of it, and he essentially signs his name to it. This struck me as extremely unethical. Mass production of art? How can that be called art anymore? But, not being an artist, I just shrugged, shook my head, and let it go. Then recently I heard a new one along the same lines, this time with regard to writers. Very successful writers. Even a couple of LDS writers. I've always wondered how some authors can crank out 2 or 3 full-length fiction or some non-fiction books a year, and have heard that some are managing to do this with committees of unknowns who do their research (which I don't object to at all--that's a logical use of staff, if you've got the money to pay them) and then actually write entire chapters, subject to the boss's approval, the boss being the one whose name goes on the cover as the author. Is this a practice that is occurring in publishing today? If it is, am I the only one who thinks it is unethical? How can someone claim authorship of a novel he has only overseen the production of, while maybe doing a little editing along the way, and still live with himself? Is the financial compensation worth the lie? Is it even a lie to put one's name on a book one didn't actually labor over with sweat and tears? Or is this rumor false? Does anyone know? Kathy Fowkes, Mesa, AZ kathy_f@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:20:10 -0500 From: "Amelia Parkin" Subject: Re: [AML] _Angels in America_ on HBO? You are not the only one who didn't know that, Richard. Does anyone know when it will be aired? Is this a near-future or distant-future thing? I wrote my thesis on _Angels_ and would very much enjoy seeing it produced (I think). amelia parkin - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:25:37 -0700 From: Steve Subject: Re: [AML] Fw: MN Grammy-nominated artist releases patriotic Album on 2/26/02 9:06 PM, Debra Brown at debbro@voyager.net wrote: > "The sensitivity of Let Freedom Ring is astounding and gratifying," > said Utah Senator Orrin G. Hatch. "The well-arranged songs and > spectacular performances will stir patriotic feelings like no other > CD." Senator Hatch, a talented musician in his own right, wrote the > two original songs for the CD: Morning Breaks on Arlington and Heal > Our Land. > > "Many people who know Senator Hatch politically don't realize that he > has the special gift of capturing the thoughts and emotions we all > feel and putting them to music," said Smith. "His ability to vividly > show the feelings of sacrifice and reverence in Arlington Cemetery is > particularly significant because his brother is buried there." Because Senator Hatch is so well-known, people almost without exception neglect to mention his co-writers. In this case, both "Heal Our Land" and "Morning Breaks on Arlington" were co-written by Janice Kapp Perry. I haven't heard this album, so I cannot comment on it, but these two songs mentioned were originally released on the albums, "Heal Our Land," and "Freedom's Light," by Prime Recordings, 1-800-377-6788. My mother, Janice, doesn't actually care much about credit, but it really bugs me that reporters and reviewers always leave her off the credits since she's "only the composer of the music and co-writer of the lyrics" and not a US Senator. :-) Steve - -- skperry@mac.com - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:19:09 EST From: DiannRead@aol.com Subject: [AML] Re: [AML-Mag] _Angels in America_ on HBO? Please keep us posted as this progresses. I'd like to see it, too. Diann Read San Antonio, TX - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 19:14:56 -0500 From: Richard Johnson Subject: Re: [AML] Finnish Saunas (was: Cultural Imperialism) I confess that many things have changed since I was a missionary, but I should clarify that the Sauna Ladies (When I was there they were often called "Sauna mummot" or "Sauna tatit" [my computer does not willingly make the two dots over the a in tatit] which means Sauna Old women or Sauna aunts, though many of them were not "all that old") They were not participants in the sauna they were the attendants who cleaned up, picked up towels, and as I said "scrubbed" the patrons for a small charge, usually a couple of Finnmarks (Though when I first arrived in Finland one finnmark was 100 finmarks.). They worked only in the larger public saunas. Those saunas too were gender separated, men separate from women participants. When I returned to Finland with my family for a Fullbright, in 1967 I never attended a public sauna. My family had a saunavuoro or turn every Wednesday in our apartment building in Puotila. I confess that our family went altogether in our altogethers,( the oldest was seven--eventually eight, he was baptized in Finland) but there were no attendants. My wife was invited to Sauna at the Helsinki Saunakerho which is a rather elite, membership only sauna, and she did get a scrub while she was there. That is the same facilty attended by Pres. McKay. I have been jealous of that invitation for years. As far as changes go, I have mentioned some before because, as I stated in my rant, when cultures mix, things change. Missionaries in my time frequently skiied (sp), boated a bit, and even went to movies on free days. I bought and read a _Time_ magazine almost every week. Speaking of _Time_ magazine there is a lovely article in one of the 1952 issues (during the Finnish Olympics) where one of the _Time_ reporters tells of his scrub in a most enertaining way (I didn't read the issue but it is quoted in one of the tourist flyers from the late fifties.) I assure you that the Mission Presidency knew of the Sauna Ladies. President McKay while he was there (Dec 1954 I think) suggested to the missionaries that getting a "scrub" was probably not a good idea, and he said it in just about that tone. I was there to hear it. Richard B. Johnson Husband, Father, Grandfather, Puppeteer, Playwright, Writer, Teacher, Director, Actor, Thingmaker, Mormon, Person, Fool I sometimes think that the last persona is the most important http://www.PuppenRich.com - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:00:31 -0500 From: Richard Johnson Subject: Re: [AML] Cultural Imperialism At 11:27 AM 2/27/2002 -0600, you wrote: >(Apologies to Richard for using his post as a jumping-off point for a rant >of sorts. His comment touched off some thoughts and responses that have been >bubbling around for a while.) > What should a rant bring about but another rant. I have, by the way, had no experience at BYU either in the English department or out, but I have experienced almost everything you discuss in other areas of academe and at other institutions (if you modify the LDS context a bit). I agree that I was, perhaps, throwing the baby out with the bathwater (to a Punch puppeteer that has special meaning) in my rage against some elements of the academic process, but when I left being director of theatre because I felt that my six children had reached the ages when they needed more than a father who left for work daily at 8:00 A.M. and except for being home the occasional supper hour returned from work at 11:00 PM. (and spent most of the rest of his time being Branch President. I shifted back to Communication (PhD Speech Communication _and_ Theatre)and grabbed all the appropriate journals to try to bring myself up to speed. I was dismayed to see that I had already read and already knew most of the content of the current scholarship, all that had changed was the vocabulary. It was an irritating and frustrating experience which resulted in last nights rant (as well as a few at various Speech and Speech Communication and Communication conventions.) Richard B. Johnson Husband, Father, Grandfather, Puppeteer, Playwright, Writer, Teacher, Director, Actor, Thingmaker, Mormon, Person, Fool I sometimes think that the last persona is the most important http://www.PuppenRich.com - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #628 ******************************