From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #725 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Tuesday, May 28 2002 Volume 01 : Number 725 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:40:44 -0600 From: "Thom Duncan" Subject: Re: [AML] Conservatism in Fantasy > Lefties mean > well, they're just misguided, etc. Lefties, on the other hand, tend to > demonize conservatives. Bush KNEW that they were going to bomb the WTC. > You are as off kilter wrt defining leftists as you claim Jonathan is in defining social conservatives. "Ultra" leftists may KNOW what was in Bush's mind, etc. True leftists just WANT to know what Bush knew. Big difference. And you had the gall to say that Conservatives demonize the left. Except for the above, and a few other swipes at leftists, I agree with your assessment of where fantasy sits on the social/political scale. Thom - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:20:45 -0500 From: Jonathan Langford Subject: [AML] Moderator Message on Politics Folks, I've recently allowed through a couple of posts that made some off-topic/disrespectful statements about political philosophies with which the authors disagreed. I didn't want to send these back for rewrite, since these were largely comments in passing. However, I do need to add at this point that we really need to be careful about characterizing those positions with which we disagree, particularly in the political arena. Okay? Keep in mind: we have both (self-described) leftists and conservatives on this list, as well as libertarians, probably greens, and goodness knows what else. Arguing about politics is off-topic for AML-List, although political views are *sometimes* relevant to the degree that they inform literary views. However, quick, easy, and potentially insulting characterizations of someone else's position are never appropriate for AML-List. To the degree that I've let these through, due to laziness on my part, I apologize, and share with you my resolution to be more careful in this area in the future. Jonathan Langford AML-List Moderator - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 20:19:52 -0500 From: "Angela Hallstrom" Subject: Re: [AML] Baby Exhaustion I think anything well done that realistically or fairly or humorously or honestly portrays motherhood would be wonderful to see in any market. Interesting anecdote, though. Right now I am getting my MFA at Hamline University in St. Paul, MN. This last semester I was on the editorial board of our literary magazine, Water-Stone (a very good magazine, by the way. If any of you are interested in seeing it or even submitting to it, let me know). At any rate, as a mother of three children under six also (5, 4 and 13 months, and, yes, I am also bone weary), I am definitely an "alternate voice" at Hamline and represented a demographic different from the average Hamline student during our editorial discussions. Although I am interested in and love reading a very wide range of styles and subjects, one particular piece submitted to the magazine was both well written and very resonant for me personally because it dealt with new motherhood. It was neither sentimental nor angry, just realistic and funny and, I thought, altogether great. The piece made it to our final round and just barely missed the cut for publication, although I fought for it hard. We had a great discussion as an editorial board, though, about the lack of good writing out there portraying the life of suburban, middle class motherhood without a tone of derision or sentimentality weighing it down. It's a huge and potentially interesting and moving topic, but many literary magazines either can't publish it because of lack of good stuff, or won't publish it because of a subtle sense that these stories aren't "important" enough for a serious literary readership. Anyhow, I found the whole process to be both frustrating and enlightening, and I hope to see more good fiction and non-fiction published about motherhood. Angela Hallstrom - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #725 ******************************