From: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (aml-list-digest) To: aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: aml-list-digest V1 #976 Reply-To: aml-list Sender: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-aml-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk aml-list-digest Monday, February 17 2003 Volume 01 : Number 976 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:50:22 -0700 From: "D. Michael Martindale" Subject: Re: [AML] Slate Commentary on CleanFlicks Lawsuit Clark Goble wrote: > Put an other way, do you think MST3K was evil and wrong for > making jokes over a film? MST3K procured the rights to do it for each film. - -- D. Michael Martindale dmichael@wwno.com ================================== Check out Worldsmiths, the new online LDS writers group, at http://www.wwno.com/worldsmiths Sponsored by Worlds Without Number http://www.wwno.com ================================== - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 07:41:52 -0700 From: "D. Michael Martindale" Subject: Re: [AML] Programming as Art Jacob Proffitt wrote: > I don't denigrate your art, I'd appreciate if you don't denigrate mine. > Software is a bit like architecture. Sure, you use it to do stuff, but it > most definitely is *not* a matter of applying a formula to derive some > hypothetical optimal solution. Programming involves a huge number of > options and variables and situations and trade-offs. Just because it is > easier to copy and a medium you are unfamiliar with doesn't mean it isn't > important or comparable to other art. Unfamiliar? As a hobbyist programmer for thirty years and a professional one for a couple of years until I decided I didn't like programming professionally? I've been programming since high school. So I think I know whereof I speak. Programming is not art. There are similarities in the intuitive approach to design between art and programming. Programming can be artistic, but that doesn't make it art. The two have radically different purposes. > Which is kind of what I find so silly about the Open Source folks--this > assumption that a) there is some utilitarian ideal that programmers > automatically know better than any others and b) their way of creating > software is automatically superior because it is disconnected from > traditional feedback mechanisms. It's kind of like those artists who > isolate themselves and brag about how pure their art is because they don't > listen to anybody but other artists. Don't have a clue what you're talking about here. How you equate open source principles with programmer arrogance is beyond me. I kind of thought open source was the opposite of arrogance: that the programmer doesn't know best, so everyone should have a crack at improving it for the good of all. - -- D. Michael Martindale dmichael@wwno.com ================================== Check out Worldsmiths, the new online LDS writers group, at http://www.wwno.com/worldsmiths Sponsored by Worlds Without Number http://www.wwno.com ================================== - -- AML-List, a mailing list for the discussion of Mormon literature ------------------------------ End of aml-list-digest V1 #976 ******************************