From: buffy-owner@xmission.com (buffy Digest) To: buffy-digest@xmission.com Subject: buffy Digest V1 #43 Reply-To: buffy@xmission.com Sender: buffy-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: buffy-owner@xmission.com Precedence: buffy Digest Wednesday, April 30 1997 Volume 01 : Number 043 In this issue: Re: BUFFY: I missed it! Re: BUFFY: I missed it! Re: BUFFY: Charisma Fan Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch RE: BUFFY: Questions for I Robot You Jane (SPOILERS!) ObBuffy: (was Re: BUFFY: I Robot...(spoilers) RE: BUFFY: I Robot...(spoilers) Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch Re: BUFFY: Joss Whedon on Renewal Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch Re: BUFFY: I Robot...(spoilers) Re: BUFFY: Cyber-Buffy SPOILERS BUFFY: Angel and Buffy BUFFY: buffy's wardrobe BUFFY: Moloch in the Buffy Quiz BUFFY: Buffy's Wardrobe Re: BUFFY: buffy's wardrobe BUFFY: Buffy repeat in DC area Re: BUFFY: The Internet Demon Episode BUFFY: Buffy in the north Re: BUFFY: Spoiler: I, Robot... Re: BUFFY: Mundane question Re: ObBuffy: (was Re: BUFFY: I Robot...(spoilers) Re: BUFFY: Buffy in the north BUFFY: I ROBOT BUFFY: Re: botched quiz Re: BUFFY: Spoiler: I, Robot... Re: BUFFY: buffy's wardrobe BUFFY: digest BUFFY: Re: Little rubber Buffy ball BUFFY: Willow's Picture in the Locker Re: BUFFY: Buffy in the north Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch Re: BUFFY: I ROBOT Re: BUFFY: Buffy in the north See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the buffy or buffy-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:02:41 -0400 (EDT) From: IMALwayzMe@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: I missed it! << Hello again! I missed Buffy on Monday! Does anybody know when the episode will be shown again? Thanks! Pamela >> It depends on where you live. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:44:28 -0400 (EDT) From: pam@tir.com (pam) Subject: Re: BUFFY: I missed it! I live in Michigan. Thanks! Pamela Previously I wrote: >> Hello again! I missed Buffy on Monday! Does anybody know when the episode >> will be shown again? Thanks! >> Pamela >> >> "I would kill to live in L.A. That close to that many shoes." >> -Cordelia The response: > If you live in the NY area, it's on this Saturday at 1:30. > >------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:51:11 -0400 (EDT) From: pam@tir.com (pam) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Charisma Fan I don't admire Charisma's character, Cordelia. I just think that Charisma is a really good actress and that Cordelia's attitude is funny. Cordelia's my favorite! Pamela Previously I wrote: ><< Hello everybody! I just started subscribing to the list. It's wonderful so >far. > I just started watching Buffy last week and I love it! I'm already hooked! > Does anybody know of a Charisma Carpenter page? Thanks! > >> The response: >Awww... how could you.. she's the character my fellow Buffy watcher and i >regularly root for the become dinner each episode... > >onlyamouse , looking for Syd's Gerald... >..don't hate me because i'm an AOL user ;).. "Give yourself over to absolute >pleasure.." >Goth Code 3.0 ------>(not completely up-to-date) >GoHS)FA( TZ P!DrSh cBKs3 V4s M4p2 Z??**!! C5 n1D b45 g5!??9?A mEa@Z)@S(6? w6! >v5R r5B p3Z965Zz D44? h5 s8FN)P( k6 HfsS*2p2 LusCT5 > >------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:12:12 -0400 From: SA-XA Subject: Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch <> > > When Willow and Malloch were chatting over > > the computer were the responses going a wee bit too fast. I have been in > > chatrooms and the > > shortest interval I have seen is 45 seconds. > > This was going at the speed of a normal > > conversation. Yup, believe it or not, I've had the same experience using something called Apple-chat. It's used by the "Gremlins in the Garage" site. (For Model Kit builders) Once you type your response and hit the return key, it shows up IMMEDIATELY on the screen. There are no options for pictures or taglines next to your name. Just basic "chat" like we saw Willow doing. The speed was frighteningly fast. However if you go into one of UTV regular chat rooms, it tends to freeze up frequently. Especially in the Xena fan chat room. But there you have the options of private messages, pictures etc.. Susan A. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:13:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Hendricks Ng Subject: Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch > > Daniel Tropea wrote: > > > > When Willow and Malloch were chatting over > > the computer were the responses going a wee bit too fast. I have been in > > chatrooms and the > > shortest interval I have seen is 45 seconds. A possible reason for the speed could be that you've all experienced chat probably though some network connection (modem, campus network, etc.) Each of these has some kind of delay, especially with a modem, which you might see as a slow-down in chatroom-text delivery. Since Moloch was electronic information, Moloch or a copy of him could have actually been *inside* Willow's Mac, thereby sidestepping the inherent network delay. Its like pulling a picture off the web as compared to off your hard drive... its sooo much faster off the hard drive. There are text-based talkers and muds (not Web based like iChat) and those people out there are lightning fast typers (i'm one of them). Just look at Bree from the Buffy iChat (the full version of the plugin and not the HTML version) -- her sarcastic flame/responses at you happen almost instantaneously.... some definitions: talker: its a lot like IRC... (create a user, password) only instead of using a specialized chat program, you use a 'telnet' program to link with a host computer. this telnet program (e.g. TCP3270, Trumpet, Microsoft Telnet, NCSA/BYU Telnet (mac)) will send a plain vanilla stream of text instead of nice formatted HTML web page. mud: similar to a talker, but it is more of a game than just a straight up talker. MUDs (Multi-User Dungeon) tend to be based on fantasy roleplaying games like Dungeons&Dragons and Battletech -- you create a user and password, but you also have other stats like life points, magic spells and weapons and stuff, that vary from person to person. You need telnet for this also. ugh sorry for the technobabble. email me privately if you didn't understand a word I just typed or if you'd like more info. /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Hendu | hendu@usa.net | http://www.personal.psu.edu/hxn106 | | WOWIE! BAST! WHAM! | Keeper of Buffy's Black Boots & Earrings | | "A suspicious heart will see imaginary ghosts." -- Chinese Proverb | \---------Watch Buffy The Vampire Slayer! WB Network Mon. 9pm---------/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 97 00:19:04 UT From: "Paul, Maria Aspan" Subject: RE: BUFFY: Questions for I Robot You Jane (SPOILERS!) - ---------- From: owner-buffy@xmission.com on behalf of Betsy Vera Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 1997 9:23 AM To: buffy@xmission.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Questions for I Robot You Jane (SPOILERS!) > > > I Robot You Jane Spoiler Space > > > > > > S > > > P > > > O > > > I > > > L > > > E > > > R > > > > > > S > > > P > > > A > > > C > > > E > > > > > > S > > > C > > > R > > > E > > > E > > > N > > Is it Morloch or Moloch? I thought it was Morloch. Moloch is the demon. Morlocks are the underground creatures in "The Time Machine" by Jules Verne. Actually, I thought it was Meloch...I thought i saw it spelled out somewhere in the episode. Maria GASP! Keeper of the Briefcase ASH Appreciation Society Member "So...this wouldn't have anything to do with say an assignment, cloak and dagger stuff, the uh...brooding Englishman?" --Duncan, "VR.5" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:31:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Hendricks Ng Subject: ObBuffy: (was Re: BUFFY: I Robot...(spoilers) OnlyAMouse said: > >So what other mothers [of a blockbuster movie] can Buffy make fun of? > >"Interview With The Vampire"? > > Uh-oh... no, i don't think it would work.. Interview had fun, humanistic, > likeable vamps.. this show has icky creatures... There's also Jura$$ic Park! $liders is spoofing it, so why not Buffy the Vampire $layer? Big mean ol' T-rex comes stomping down Main Street, so Buffy drop kicks him in the head, and stakes his tongue! /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Hendu | hendu@usa.net | http://www.personal.psu.edu/hxn106 | | WOWIE! BAST! WHAM! | Keeper of Buffy's Black Boots & Earrings | | "A suspicious heart will see imaginary ghosts." -- Chinese Proverb | \---------Watch Buffy The Vampire Slayer! WB Network Mon. 9pm---------/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 97 23:29:41 UT From: "Paul, Maria Aspan" Subject: RE: BUFFY: I Robot...(spoilers) - ---------- From: owner-buffy@xmission.com on behalf of Augie De Blieck Jr. Sent: Monday, April 28, 1997 6:45 PM To: buffy@xmission.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: I Robot...(spoilers) Hi Maria, > S > > P > > O > > I > > L > > E > > R > > S > > sitting there in a very self-deprecatory mood. I loved the implied homage to > VR5: the kid in the library at the beginning who said "virtual reality is the > only way to be truly alive" or something like that. << >Eh, maybe. "Virtual Reality Is Real" was VR.5's tag line.< Yeah, it wasn't an exact quote, but the VR5 line I was leaning towards was Syd's "I'm alive when I'm in there" and other dialogue to that effect. >> And about next week's episode...isn't the "evil/possessed ventriloquist dummy" > about the most over-used plot in the horror genre?<< >Yes, but at the same time, this is a campy show. I'm sure they have something interesting planned with it. I see Buffy more as being able to satirize these things than take them seriously.< That's my hope as well...I'm waiting to see the spin they put on it. Maria (not as crabby today) GASP! Keeper of the Briefcase ASH Appreciation Society Member "So...this wouldn't have anything to do with say an assignment, cloak and dagger stuff, the uh...brooding Englishman?" --Duncan, "VR.5" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:39:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris McCoy Subject: Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch I disagree, I have seen converstaions over chatrooms easily proceed at the speed of normal conversation.. It doesnt take that long to read and type in a new message + Willow had the computer reading for her I know if I had to wait 45 seconds between each line I wouldnt use irc On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Daniel Tropea wrote: > When Willow and Malloch were chatting over > the computer were the responses going a wee bit too fast. I have been in > chatrooms and the > shortest interval I have seen is 45 seconds. > This was going at the speed of a normal > conversation. > > You figure you have to read the response then > come up with your own and type it in this process does not go anywhere > near the speed > of conversations. > > Did anyone else notice that this was weird. > > Chris McCoy cmccoy@mbhs.edu, cmccoy@erols.com, chris@imneverwrong.com The Hip Hop Hotlist - http://mmm.mbhs.edu/~cmccoy/2.0/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:21:19, -0500 From: GSSM83C@prodigy.com (JOSEPH NORTHCOTT) Subject: Re: BUFFY: Joss Whedon on Renewal >Uhh..if it hasn't been announced , how come David Boreanez's bio ( on the >official page ) says that he is sign for 13 episodes NEXT SEASON ?!? > >A) The homepage upkeeper is really optimistic and David is getiing paid >anyway ? > >B) Someone forgot to tell Joss :) > >Input anyone ? > >Rose Yeah, I'll field this one. A while back someone on this list posted some really good explanations about why the show is produced by Fox but purchased by Warner Bros. (Sorry, I've forgotten who to give credit to. ) Whether or not the show will "purchased" by WB to show next season won't be announced for about 2 more weeks. Personally, looking at their ad campaign, I think there is no question that WB is going to renew BtVS for next season. If not, it could be shopped around to other networks. Just like NBC recently picking up new "Naked Truth" episodes after another network cancelled it. David's contract may not be with WB. David's contract may be with the production company. They seem confident of renewal, and probably want to lock him in. Star Trek: TNG is a good example. When it started in '87, all the regulars actually signed 3 contracts: one just for the 2 hour pilot, one for the minimum purchase, and one for an entire 22 episode season. Just because they signed the full season contract didn't ensure all episodes would be shot. If David is under contract, WB isn't obligated to use him. Just ask Joan Rivers. (She got fired from that Fox late show, even though she had 2 years, at $500,000/year, left on her contract.) David obviously is pulling in a prime demographic (young women). They are willing to sign him and take the chance of having to "eat" his contract. Think of it vaguely as insurance. JN --- pages.prodigy.com/slayer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:42:54 +0000 From: "Augie De Blieck Jr." Subject: Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch Hi Daniel, > When Willow and Malloch were chatting over > the computer were the responses going a wee bit too fast. I have been in > chatrooms and the > shortest interval I have seen is 45 seconds. > This was going at the speed of a normal > conversation. It's a construct of necessity, in order to pace the show. You can't simulate a true IRC situaiton, because it would be so slow. 45 seconds is WAY out of line in my experiences. The shortest interval I've had has been closer to 5 or 10 seconds or so, and that's mostly in typing time. The fact is, the writer of the episode must portray what is happening - the conversation. The manner in which it happens is secondary and must be faked for the good of the episode. In other words: 1. There are no quote marks automatically inserted as you type. 2. The words don't show up letter by letter on the screen, but rather after you type a line and hit return. 3. The computer doesn't speak to you what is being typed. 4. And I'll give you this one: Where's the net-splitting or net-lagging? But none of this matters. It's like the argument over the acoustic modem in VR.5 - a red herring. - -Augie - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Augie De Blieck Jr. - augie@nic.com - AugieDB@compuserve.com "Egg whites are good for a lot of things; lemon merangue pie, angel food cake, and clogging up radiators." -MacGyver (Bushmaster) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:42:54 +0000 From: "Augie De Blieck Jr." Subject: Re: BUFFY: I Robot...(spoilers) Hi Onlyamouse, > >So what other mothers can Buffy make fun of? "Interview With The Vampire"? > >I can see it now- no, wait, I'll save this for fan-fic. It's too funny an > >idea. > > Uh-oh... no, i don't think it would work.. Interview had fun, humanistic, > likeable vamps.. this show has icky creatures... I was thinking more of a parody, actually. I've never seen "Interview With The Vampire" and I have no intentions to. It's just the title which works well. How long would it take Barbara Walters to get Buffy to cry? Why isn't Geraldo devoting his full attention to the odd occurences in Sunnydale? Shouldn't he move his show out there until he figures it out? - -Augie - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Augie De Blieck Jr. - augie@nic.com - AugieDB@compuserve.com "Egg whites are good for a lot of things; lemon merangue pie, angel food cake, and clogging up radiators." -MacGyver (Bushmaster) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:42:54 +0000 From: "Augie De Blieck Jr." Subject: Re: BUFFY: Cyber-Buffy SPOILERS Hi Onlyamouse, > dress, sleeveless and incredibly short; and high boots. Doesn't this school > have a dress code? Yes. And most likely, like every other school dress code, it is completely ignored. - -Augie - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Augie De Blieck Jr. - augie@nic.com - AugieDB@compuserve.com "Egg whites are good for a lot of things; lemon merangue pie, angel food cake, and clogging up radiators." -MacGyver (Bushmaster) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 97 21:08:42 PDT From: Alexandra Lubniewski Subject: BUFFY: Angel and Buffy I just signed up for this list, so I don't know if this has been discussed to death already. But I have been reading some of the 180 or so messages from the last three days (and that is NOT an exaggreation; there are 180-plus messages in my in-box), and came across a topic which I have discussed heatedly. I think it was Ruth who suggested that Angel showing Buffy his vampire face when they were kissing in her room was deliberate. I totally agree with this. I think the uncontrollabe-reaction idea is plausible, but I really got the impression that he did it deliberately so she could see why they couldn't be together. Also, I think Angel is tired of living, with the two sides of him constantly at war. When he and Buffy were at the Bronze and she was hunting him, he said, "Let's get it done. . . . Come on, don't go soft on me now!" I think he would have rathered that Buffy kill him right then, than go on living. That would be another reason why he might have shown Buffy his true nature: he WANTED her to hunt him, to kill him. Or, at least, to do so if they couldn't be together. I don't know what people will think of this, but it's an interesting idea, and I'd appreciate someone giving me their feedback on it. Alex jlubnie@madison.tds.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:13:31 -0500 From: sharonruth@webtv.net (Sharon Jacobs) Subject: BUFFY: buffy's wardrobe Let's not complain about buffy's admitedly skimpy outfits. Let's just be thankful that Sunnydale isn't experimenting with school uniforms like they are here in Houston. Can you picture the buffster in a uniform? Can you picture Cordelia in a uniform? (My life is over! Put me out of my misery) sharon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:29:55 -0500 From: sharonruth@webtv.net (Sharon Jacobs) Subject: BUFFY: Moloch in the Buffy Quiz I just tried the buffy quiz at the official site and I couldn't get more than 4 right. I know all of my answers were right. I guess Moloch must have escaped and taken up residence at the official buffy site. sharon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:28:37 -0700 From: Mark Safransky Subject: BUFFY: Buffy's Wardrobe Onlyamouse@aol.com wrote: >Since everyone else is talking about it, I too have noticed slightly annoyed voice> Buffy's wardrobe, or lack thereof.... And is it > just me or does she seem to stick to one basic fashion statement: some > shift-type dress, sleeveless and incredibly short; and high boots. > Doesn't this school have a dress code? > Do schools have dress codes anymore? They didn't when I went to high school during the late 70's and early 80's. Then again, times and locations make the differences. Mark aka X-Lander - ------------------------------------------------------------------ NickAndNatPacker/Slayer #32/Keeper of Angel's Bloodbags/UT Recruit X-Phile/Trekker/Leaper/Watcher E-Mail: mailto:x-lander@geocities.com URL: http://www.geocities.com/~x-lander Xander - "Wake up and smell the seduction." - Buffy the Vampire Slayer - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:32:37 +0000 From: "Augie De Blieck Jr." Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy's wardrobe Hi Sharon, > Can you picture the buffster in a uniform? > Can you picture Cordelia in a uniform? What about Darla? Oh, wait. Nevermind. ::drool:: - -Augie, with more fanfic possibilities - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Augie De Blieck Jr. - augie@nic.com - AugieDB@compuserve.com "Egg whites are good for a lot of things; lemon merangue pie, angel food cake, and clogging up radiators." -MacGyver (Bushmaster) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:33:25 -0700 From: Mark Safransky Subject: BUFFY: Buffy repeat in DC area I Robot, You Jane will air again Sunday afternoon at 4 PM Eastern on WBDC 50 in the Washington DC viewing area. This is the regular repeat performance time for Buffy. New episodes air Monday night at 9 PM and they repeat on Sunday at 4 PM. This does not include the wacky viewing times WGN airs for those whose cable systems carry it. - --Mark aka X-Lander - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NickAndNatPacker/Slayer #32/Keeper of Angel's Bloodbags/UT Recruit X-Phile/Trekker/Leaper/Watcher E-Mail: mailto:x-lander@geocities.com URL: http://www.geocities.com/~x-lander Xander - "Wake up and smell the seduction." - Buffy the Vampire Slayer - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:53:17 -0700 From: jen@rio.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: The Internet Demon Episode At 04:28 PM 4/29/97 -0700, thus sprake Jennifer Ottesen: >> >> -- Maytree (Usually called Jen, but since there's already a Jen on the list >> I'll go by my Usenet handle.) >*grin* > >If you want we can try to work out some kind of name-share program? I >certainly dont have full rights on our name... Nah, it's been on the list of five most popular girls' names for something like the past twenty years or so (another Jen I was commisserating with over the problem swears it dates to 1969 (I think) when "Love Story" came out, because the heroine's name was Jennifer. I don't mind using Maytree -- I use it on all my Usenet posts. "Maytree" is a more-or-less literal translation of my last name; the hawthorn is also known as the May tree (a tree very important to Celtic pagans, incidentally!) - -- Maytree (see? ;) - --------------------------------------------------------------- Jennifer Hawthorne jen@rio.com jennifer.hawthorne@sierra.com - --------------------------------------------------------------- Q: If you throw a violist and a soprano off a cliff, which one would hit the ground first? A1: The violist. The soprano would have to stop halfway down to ask directions. A2: Who cares? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:08:13 -0700 (PDT) From: RAS Subject: BUFFY: Buffy in the north Firstly, will someone, anyone respond so that I know I sent this letter correctly .... it's my first posting! Just to let all you lucky southerners know, we Canadians don't get to see BTVS until a week after you do....unless we have the WGN, WB, TLA, ETC. superstations, and most of us don't. I've been watching Buffy for a month now, and loving it more each week, unfortunately missing the pilot episode (kicking myself often). I love the interaction between the cast, and the shifts between humourous and serious moments. So far the episode I like the best is WITCH ...Xander tells Willow that she is one of the guys, hurting poor Willow. Then Xander gets it back when Buffy says he is one of the girls, great stuff. Out here in this little village I live in we have no super Warner Bros. or similar stores to get BTVS merchandise at. Has anyone started or heard of anyone starting a mail order service to get Buffy merchandise? - - The (darkone@uniserve.com) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:12:25 -0700 From: jen@rio.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Spoiler: I, Robot... At 06:27 PM 4/29/97 -0400, thus sprake harper: >I >don't >think >this >is >really >a >spoiler >but >just >to >be >on >the >safe >side, >I'll >take >the >usual >precautionary >measures... > > >Okay, more obscure and violent trivia about Moloch: And a little *more* obscure and violent trivia about Moloch: Larry Gonick's "Cartoon History of the Universe" (a most excellent book) describes "the Moloch" as a ritual, rather than a specific god/demon/whatever. The ritual was practiced in Carthage, and possibly in other Phoenician cities of the time. Carthage had no sovereign -- it was ruled by a group of powerful families. Whenever the city was having problems (like yet *another* war with Rome) the ruling families would get together and each would sacrifice a child...the archeologists studying the ruins of Carthage found vaults filled with the skeletons of hundreds of dead children. No one has a clue why they did this -- it might have been a *very* drastic form of population control. Gonick suggests it might have been some kind of social ritual designed to show that all of the ruling families were more dedicated to the good of the society as a whole than to their own families. Gonick doesn't mention any bull-headed bronze figure, but he didn't go into a lot of detail about the ritual. Where'd you get your info from? - -- Maytree - --------------------------------------------------------------- Jennifer Hawthorne jen@rio.com jennifer.hawthorne@sierra.com - --------------------------------------------------------------- "Hired killers, she called us once. Almost the first thing she ever said to me." He looked fondly reminiscent. Miles grinned in spite of himself. "She really said that to you?" Lord Vorkosigan grinned back. "Oh, yes. But, she married me anyway, so perhaps it wasn't all that heartfelt." -- Lois McMaster Bujold, The Warriors Apprentice ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:26:18 -0500 From: shannon howe Subject: Re: BUFFY: Mundane question At 08:29 AM 4/29/97 -0400, you wrote: > >I could use some instructions. How do I get Digest version of this >list? I'm being totally swamped. I read my email twice a day, but >I'm not able to keep up. actually i am having about the opposite problem.... i am getting all the messages and the digest.... can one of you happy list-moms help me out here??? rayVen ******************************************** * "If the apocalypse comes, beep me." * * -Buffy 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer(series) * ******************************************** *"I dont like your god. Your god scares me"* * 'Bulletproof' * ******************************************** * "Lady, I gotta tell ya, I have been * * grossly misinformed about witches" * * - Bart Simpson * ******************************************** * The problem with the gene pool is it * * needs a life guard. * ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:49:09 -0500 From: shannon howe Subject: Re: ObBuffy: (was Re: BUFFY: I Robot...(spoilers) > >There's also Jura$$ic Park! $liders is spoofing it, is this the ep of sliders where they slide to a new world, someone gets in trouble, and the giligan messes up the way off the island??? :) rayVen ******************************************** * "If the apocalypse comes, beep me." * * -Buffy 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer(series) * ******************************************** *"I dont like your god. Your god scares me"* * 'Bulletproof' * ******************************************** * "Lady, I gotta tell ya, I have been * * grossly misinformed about witches" * * - Bart Simpson * ******************************************** * The problem with the gene pool is it * * needs a life guard. * ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 00:44:54 -0700 From: Mark Safransky Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy in the north RAS wrote: > > Firstly, will someone, anyone respond so that I know I sent this letter > correctly .... it's my first posting! > OK, Someone got it, Me! :) > Out here in this little village I live in we have no super Warner Bros. > or similar stores to get BTVS merchandise at. Has anyone started or > heard of anyone starting a mail order service to get Buffy merchandise? > - - - The (darkone@uniserve.com) - - Nope, not yet anyway. I figure the merchandizing will start during the summer though. Not knowing if BtVS would make any kind of showing, most of the manufacturers of TV goodies would probably hold off. Expecially seeing as BtVS was airing on WB Network. Now that the show is a bonifide hit and attracting attention from the media, the merchandising will start pouring out as soon as the legal eagles clear it. So watch those stores and the shopping channels for BtVS merchandise, it will soon be there. - --Mark aka X-Lander - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NickAndNatPacker/Slayer #32/Keeper of Angel's Bloodbags/UT Recruit X-Phile/Trekker/Leaper/Watcher E-Mail: mailto:x-lander@geocities.com URL: http://www.geocities.com/~x-lander Xander - "Wake up and smell the seduction." - Buffy the Vampire Slayer - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:47:41 -0700 (MST) From: jenifer@goodnet.com (Jennifer Weeks) Subject: BUFFY: I ROBOT S P O I L E R S P A C E First of all, I'm new on this list, so I'd like to say hi to all of you. Second, I for one was very relieved to see a practioner of the Old Religion as a good person. I use that term because Ms. Callender did deny being a witch, although, in my opinion, if you can cast a circle and do a binding ritual, you're a witch. I was kind of afraid the show was prejudiced against witches and witchie types after last week. I was very glad for Giles to finally meet a nice woman, but since I'm seventeen and tend to identify more with Buffy, I find it difficult to overcome a hope that someday Buffy and Giles could have a more "personal" relationship. However, I doubt the network is planning to promote statutory rape. Still, the scene last week when Giles carried Buffy and gently set her on the science lab table certainly set my heart beating faster! Jennifer Weeks, GASPer, clipper of fingernails. "Wickedness is a myth invented by the good to explain the curious attractiveness of others." Oscar Wilde ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 00:02:45 -0500 From: hyphema@webtv.net Subject: BUFFY: Re: botched quiz sharon, i wish i could identify with your "buffy" quiz predicament, but...i got 5 questions right (and i haven't even seen the episode yet!). maybe it `is' moloch that's causing the problem. i don't think you can pin it on webtv, at least not this time. hyphema@webtv.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 01:04:59 -0400 (EDT) From: harper Subject: Re: BUFFY: Spoiler: I, Robot... On Tue, 29 Apr 1997 jen@rio.com wrote: > At 06:27 PM 4/29/97 -0400, thus sprake harper: > >I > >don't > >think > >this > >is > >really > >a > >spoiler > >but > >just > >to > >be > >on > >the > >safe > >side, > >I'll > >take > >the > >usual > >precautionary > >measures... > > > > > >Okay, more obscure and violent trivia about Moloch: > > And a little *more* obscure and violent trivia about Moloch: [snip] > Gonick doesn't mention any bull-headed bronze figure, but he didn't go into > a lot of detail about the ritual. Where'd you get your info from? Several references on demonology/black magic/demonology, including "The Encyclopedia of Demons" and "The Black Arts". I was approaching the question from the standpoint of legend, rather than archaelogy. I am not sure that there is any evidence that the bronze statues actually existed; there does seem to be agreement that the ancients *believed* they existed. > > -- Maytree > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Jennifer Hawthorne > jen@rio.com > jennifer.hawthorne@sierra.com > --------------------------------------------------------------- > "Hired killers, she called us once. Almost the first thing > she ever > said to me." He looked fondly reminiscent. > Miles grinned in spite of himself. "She really said that to > you?" > Lord Vorkosigan grinned back. "Oh, yes. But, she married me > anyway, so > perhaps it wasn't all that heartfelt." > -- Lois McMaster Bujold, The Warriors Apprentice > > > Harper *** Robin Carroll-Mann harper@tribeca.ios.com "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:04:13 -0700 From: "Scott Palmer" Subject: Re: BUFFY: buffy's wardrobe > Let's not complain about buffy's admitedly > skimpy outfits. You won't catch *me* complaining! :-))) Noah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:55:39 -0700 (PDT) From: RAS Subject: BUFFY: digest Yes a digest version would be nice, if someone knows how to accomplish this then please post it for all of us drowning in letters. Collected over 107 letters in one day (I check it each day) and my server is slow, so it took a looooong time. - Rudy - (darkone@uniserve.com) - Keeper of NOTHING (yet) - SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG SMG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 07:14:24 +0000 From: "WorstWitch" Subject: BUFFY: Re: Little rubber Buffy ball > > :) She just bounces off those walls like a little rubber Buffy > > ball. Giggle. I just had Buffy saying much the same thing in a fanfic I'm doing. (sarcastic) "I'm the Slayer, right? I just *bounce* right back ..." Anybody got any theories on whether she's more invincible than your average human, as in, harder to damage and faster to heal? Or is she just faster and stronger, so she's less likely to get hurt? I mean, has she actually *bled* in the series? I know she shed a few drops in the movie, but all I can recall from the series is her nursing her arm with an ice pack. Best, WorstWitch (who really hopes that her sig arrives - it keeps getting lost) ******************************************** "Does the word "duh" mean anything to you?" (Buffy: The Movie) http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1497/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:24:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Sonja Marie Subject: BUFFY: Willow's Picture in the Locker Hi all, M A Y B E S P O I L E R In the scene when Willow is first telling Buffy about Malcolm she opens her locker and I swear that picture is of her and Giles, can anyone else confirm or deny this? Sonja Marie - The White Rose @--'->-- http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/sonja.html Co-Pres. of the Jeff Fahey IFC - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/fahey.html Paul Wylie Fan Pages - http://www.eskimo.com/~whtrose/pwylie/pwylie.html Owner of the Jeff Fahey Mailing List & The Paul Wylie Mailing List Pres. of Giles Appreciation Society Panters -GASP!- Keeper of Giles' Coats&Ties ASH Appreciation Society Member - Watch Buffy: the Vampire Slayer - Series! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 02:27:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Hendricks Ng Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy in the north Mark aka X-Lander said regarding Buffy Merchandising: > Nope, not yet anyway. I figure the merchandizing will start during the > summer though. Not knowing if BtVS would make any kind of showing, most I just saw on the web that the PTB at Xena finally are offering some action figures and dolls. And this is already the 3rd(?) Xena season? /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Hendu | hendu@usa.net | http://www.personal.psu.edu/hxn106 | | WOWIE! BAST! WHAM! | Keeper of Buffy's Black Boots & Earrings | | "A suspicious heart will see imaginary ghosts." -- Chinese Proverb | \---------Watch Buffy The Vampire Slayer! WB Network Mon. 9pm---------/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 03:47:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Thresh0ld@aol.com Subject: Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch yes, but would it not seem silly if the director had allowed for this time...leaving pauses in the program so that the conversation flowed more reasonably? that sounds like it would be a good waste of already expensive air-time... just pretend that they are really fast thinkers and are connected to ISDN... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 01:30:10 -0700 From: "Scott Palmer" Subject: Re: BUFFY: Chat room responses between Willow and Malloch > just pretend that they are really fast thinkers and are connected to ISDN... ISDN? Isn't that on FOX? :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 03:43:47 -0700 From: Terrie Subject: Re: BUFFY: I ROBOT On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, jenifer@goodnet.com (Jennifer Weeks) wrote: >S >P >O >I >L >E >R > >S >P >A >C >E > I was very glad for Giles to finally meet a nice woman, but since I'm >seventeen and tend to identify more with Buffy, I find it difficult to >overcome a hope that someday Buffy and Giles could have a more "personal" >relationship. However, I doubt the network is planning to promote statutory >rape. Still, the scene last week when Giles carried Buffy and gently set >her on the science lab table certainly set my heart beating faster! I tend to think of Giles as moer of a father-figure type. Lord knows, she could use one. I mean, her dad obviously couldn't cope when Buffy torched the gym. On the posting board at the offical site, there was talk of Giles and Buffy's mom. It's consistant with the father-figure thing, but other then that, I don't know... - -Terrie P.S.- I'm new. Hi! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 07:40:32 -0400 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: BUFFY: Buffy in the north At 02:27 AM 4/30/97 -0400, you wrote: >Mark aka X-Lander said regarding Buffy Merchandising: >> Nope, not yet anyway. I figure the merchandizing will start during the >> summer though. Not knowing if BtVS would make any kind of showing, most > >I just saw on the web that the PTB at Xena finally are offering some >action figures and dolls. And this is already the 3rd(?) Xena season? They had Xena dolls in the first season of Xena, but not much else. It was only near the end of the second season (where we are now) that they are finally starting to offer more merchandise. Mostly 8x10 photos, a mug, a few posters, T-shirts, pins and a jacket. There are plans for more, though, and in a month or two we'll finally see the Gabrielle dollie soon. MCA was totally surprised by the desire for Xena merchandise, using most of their resources to make Hercules toys for 10 year old boys. For toy stores, for each package of 12 Hercules toys they received 1 Xena doll, making them very rare & valuable. MCA just wasn't used to mass-marketing. However, WB IS very experienced with making every last possible dollar from a series that they can. Just look at Looney Toons, they've been around since the 30's, and are still making money for them. As long as the WB has merchandising rights, look for BtVS watches, posters, T-shirts and more. If Fox retained the rights to merchandising there'll be some sticking points, but if not, there'll be a wealth of merchandise. The question of when it'll show up is a sticky one. Most of the better items, i.e. watches, action figs, and what-not, take from 6 months to a year from when the initial design is finished to the product shipping for distribution. My guess is that with the start of the second season we'll see something available, with a quick-fix item coming out this summer. - -Tom http://www.electrolite.com/buffy ------------------------------ End of buffy Digest V1 #43 ************************** To subscribe to buffy Digest, send the command: subscribe buffy-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-buffy": subscribe buffy-digest local-buffy@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "buffy-digest" in the commands above with "buffy". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/buffy/archive. These are organized by date.