From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) Hello Date: 01 Jul 1997 10:40:11 -0400 Hello everybody, I've been collecting elongated pennies for about 2 years now. I started collecting during college - which I'll explain to the group sometime. I live in Boston, Massachusetts and am quite open to the trade the pennies available here: Boston Museum of Science: Galaxy Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of some planets and the moon? Planetarium Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of the planetarium machine and the big and little dippers. New England Aquarium of Boston: Black Footed Penguin Penny - Vertical - one of the coolest pennies to date! It's a black footed penguin. I'm in the process of scanning in my modest penny collection (~175) and will post them on my web page when all is said and done: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jdixon - Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarking method? Date: 01 Jul 1997 21:30:56 -0400 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > > Hi; > > I would like to "imprint" some U.S. cents. Is there a simple machine > available that would "stamp" an image of say maybe a 1/4 square inch in area > on a cent? > > My budget is too small to purchase a roller, but, I would like to mark some > cents to be given away as promotional pieces if possible. > > Thanks, and happy collecting, > > -Bob > TEC # 2033 It sounds like you want to mark your coins with a punch of some type. As Chris said, the ready made ones are relatively inexpensive. Anything else would have to be a special order. It all depends upon how you want to mark your coins. There are those Lincoln cents with all sorts of things stamped on them (a pipe, Kennedy, Masonic emblem, etc). If that is your desire, you must find someone to make the punch for you. Look in the phone book for "Die Sinkers (makers)." Letter and number punches are readily available for a few dollars each. Regards, Bob Fritsch TEC #1871 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 01 Jul 1997 21:43:03 -0400 Jeff Dixon wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > I've been collecting elongated pennies for about 2 years now. I started > collecting during college - which I'll explain to the group > sometime. > > I live in Boston, Massachusetts and am quite open to the trade the pennies > available here: > > Boston Museum of Science: > Galaxy Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of some planets and the moon? > Planetarium Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of the planetarium machine > and the big and little dippers. > > New England Aquarium of Boston: > Black Footed Penguin Penny - Vertical - one of the coolest pennies to date! > It's a black footed penguin. > > I'm in the process of scanning in my modest penny collection (~175) and > will post them on my web page when all is said and done: > http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jdixon > > - Jeff Hi Jeff, Saw your message on the elongateds list and wanted to let you know that Ray Dillard (Mr. Elongated) will be at the NENA show in August. It is in Marlborough at the Royal Plaza Trade Center, Route 20 West off I-495. Dates are 22-23 August. I am the President of NENA. If you come to the show, please look me up. I'd be happy to meet you. Regards, Bob Fritsch TEC 1871 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarking method? (fwd) Date: 01 Jul 1997 19:12:40 -0700 (PDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- a striking response... Christine from the Squished Penny Museum once aquired a penny with an imprint struck into it. A woman at the NOW rally in D.C. a few years back had a big pile of pennies and a hammer and an awl-like tool. She would pound the awl thing with the hammer to imprint the word "CHOICE" on a penny. The awl device had reversed letters on its end which, when struck with some force, would make an impression on the soft copper. It sounds similar to the ones Aahz has descibed as seeing at Home Depot, etc. REPLY FROM: Pete Morelewicz Return-Path: In-Reply-To: <970630130208_-259776564@emout06.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-elongates@xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: elongates@mail.xmission.com Bob, Try your local Home Depot or Orchard Supply Hardware. Tell them what you want to do, and they can probably help you out. I believe, although I could be way off base here, that there are simple metal punches available with lettering on them. If you want a special logo designed, you'll probably need to call a machine shop, or something similar. Just a couple of guesses. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > Hi; > > I would like to "imprint" some U.S. cents. Is there a simple machine > available that would "stamp" an image of say maybe a 1/4 square inch in area > on a cent? > > My budget is too small to purchase a roller, but, I would like to mark some > cents to be given away as promotional pieces if possible. > > Thanks, and happy collecting, > > -Bob > TEC # 2033 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 01 Jul 1997 19:43:07 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote: > > Hello everybody, > I'm in the process of scanning in my modest penny collection (~175) and > will post them on my web page when all is said and done: > http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jdixon > > - Jeff Jeff, I'm pretty ignorant of HTML, so forgive me if I'm using the wrong word's here. From what I understand, there are ttwo ways to put graphics on your webpage: 'Inline', one result of which is that graphics can't be downloaded and, '????' which allows the graphics to be downloaded. I use a non-graphical browser, so VASTLY prefer that when you construct your page you do not put the graphics 'inline'. I know that this is how Kathy does her page. Result: I can't see any of her graphics! When the graphics are not done inline I can download them and look at them offline. Just one man's opinion/request. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarking method? Date: 02 Jul 1997 12:20:20 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-01 22:33:10 EDT, you write: > It sounds like you want to mark your coins with a punch of some type. > As Chris said, the ready made ones are relatively inexpensive. Anything > else would have to be a special order. > > It all depends upon how you want to mark your coins. There are those > Lincoln cents with all sorts of things stamped on them (a pipe, Kennedy, > Masonic emblem, etc). If that is your desire, you must find someone to > make the punch for you. Look in the phone book for "Die Sinkers > (makers)." > > Letter and number punches are readily available for a few dollars each. > > Regards, > > Bob Fritsch > TEC #1871 > Hi Bob; Thank you for the reply. Sounds like good advice, I was hoping that there would be some small device that would "line up" the die/punch or maybe a small screw press of sorts. I'll make the calls suggested and see if I can't come up with a new coin for our collections :-). Happy Collecting, -Bob TEC#2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarking method? (fwd) Date: 02 Jul 1997 12:21:04 -0400 (EDT) : > a striking response... > Christine from the Squished Penny Museum once aquired a penny with an > imprint > struck into it. A woman at the NOW rally in D.C. a few years back had a big > pile of pennies and a hammer and an awl-like tool. She would pound the awl > thing with the hammer to imprint the word "CHOICE" on a penny. The awl > device > had reversed letters on its end which, when struck with some force, would > make an impression on the soft copper. It sounds similar to the ones Aahz > has > descibed as seeing at Home Depot, etc. > - Pete; Your striking response has made an impression on me! :-) Was the awl-like device a single tool with several letters cut on it or was there just one letter each on several tools? Thanks, -Bob TEC#2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 02 Jul 1997 15:56:43 -0400 Hi Bob, What does NENA stand for? - Jeff At 09:43 PM 7/1/97 -0400, you wrote: >Jeff Dixon wrote: >> >> Hello everybody, >> >> I've been collecting elongated pennies for about 2 years now. I started >> collecting during college - which I'll explain to the group >> sometime. >> >> I live in Boston, Massachusetts and am quite open to the trade the pennies >> available here: >> >> Boston Museum of Science: >> Galaxy Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of some planets and the moon? >> Planetarium Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of the planetarium machine >> and the big and little dippers. >> >> New England Aquarium of Boston: >> Black Footed Penguin Penny - Vertical - one of the coolest pennies to date! >> It's a black footed penguin. >> >> I'm in the process of scanning in my modest penny collection (~175) and >> will post them on my web page when all is said and done: >> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jdixon >> >> - Jeff > >Hi Jeff, > >Saw your message on the elongateds list and wanted to let you know that >Ray Dillard (Mr. Elongated) will be at the NENA show in August. It is >in Marlborough at the Royal Plaza Trade Center, Route 20 West off >I-495. Dates are 22-23 August. > >I am the President of NENA. If you come to the show, please look me >up. I'd be happy to meet you. > >Regards, > >Bob Fritsch >TEC 1871 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 02 Jul 1997 16:25:50 -0700 Jeff Dixon wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > What does NENA stand for? > > - Jeff > > At 09:43 PM 7/1/97 -0400, you wrote: > >Jeff Dixon wrote: > >> > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> I've been collecting elongated pennies for about 2 years now. I started > >> collecting during college - which I'll explain to the group > >> sometime. > >> > >> I live in Boston, Massachusetts and am quite open to the trade the pennies > >> available here: > >> > >> Boston Museum of Science: > >> Galaxy Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of some planets and the > moon? > >> Planetarium Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of the planetarium machine > >> and the big and little dippers. > >> > >> New England Aquarium of Boston: > >> Black Footed Penguin Penny - Vertical - one of the coolest pennies to date! > >> It's a black footed penguin. > >> > >> I'm in the process of scanning in my modest penny collection (~175) and > >> will post them on my web page when all is said and done: > >> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jdixon > >> > >> - Jeff > > > >Hi Jeff, > > > >Saw your message on the elongateds list and wanted to let you know that > >Ray Dillard (Mr. Elongated) will be at the NENA show in August. It is > >in Marlborough at the Royal Plaza Trade Center, Route 20 West off > >I-495. Dates are 22-23 August. > > > >I am the President of NENA. If you come to the show, please look me > >up. I'd be happy to meet you. > > > >Regards, > > > >Bob Fritsch > >TEC 1871 > > > > My guess is that NENA = New England Numismatic Association. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: (elongates) Countermarks Date: 02 Jul 1997 16:56:59 -0400 Hi all. Two sources to try for dies for countermarking: Henry A. Evers Corp. 72 N. Oxford St. Providence, RI 02905 Ph. 401-781-4767 Fax 401-781-9581 OR Centaur Forge. ltd. P.O. Box 340-A 117 N. Spring St. Burlington, WI 53105 Ph. 414-763-9175 Fax 414-763-8350 If you send Centaur Forge a hand drawn design of what you want, and the desired overall height. They will send you a written quote within a few days. If you contact either of these companies, please let them know that their information was passed along from ads in 'The Blade' magazine. Good luck. Ben Lavine mcsquare@erols.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 02 Jul 1997 21:19:57 -0400 Jeff Dixon wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > What does NENA stand for? > > - Jeff New England Numismatic Association. We are the oldest regional club in the US, and boast a membership of over 500. I would be happy to send you our latest issue of our magazine and a membership application. Please send your SnailMail address (only to me, not to the group) and I'll get it in the mail immediately. We are an ANA member club and are listed on their web site (www.money.org). Bob NENA PO Box 3003 Nashua, NH 03061-3003 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 02 Jul 1997 21:31:03 -0400 William C. Massey wrote: > My guess is that NENA = New England Numismatic Association. > -- > Elongatedly Yours, > > William C. Massey > TEC #1857 Exactly right! Come see us for our 53rd Annual Conference and Convention in Marlborough, MA the weekend before Labor Day (22-23 Aug). We do a Friday/Saturday show as everybody seems to like that schedule. Anthony Swiatek will be our keynote speaker and Ray Dillard will be there to squash pennies. Should be lots of fun. Bob Fritsch rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarking method? Date: 02 Jul 1997 20:43:52 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > Hi Bob; > > Thank you for the reply. Sounds like good advice, I was hoping that there > would be some small device that would "line up" the die/punch or maybe a > small screw press of sorts. I'll make the calls suggested and see if I can't > come up with a new coin for our collections :-). > > Happy Collecting, > -Bob > TEC#2033 > Bob, Don't forget to let us all know how things work out! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 02 Jul 1997 20:50:20 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote: > Exactly right! Come see us for our 53rd Annual Conference and > Convention in Marlborough, MA the weekend before Labor Day (22-23 Aug). Isn't this the same weekend that ANA is in New York? > We do a Friday/Saturday show as everybody seems to like that schedule. > Anthony Swiatek will be our keynote speaker and Ray Dillard will be > there to squash pennies. Should be lots of fun. Be sure to pick up a few extras of Ray's elongates for trades! Coin shows are one of my areas of interest, so you can count me in for one of each variety from the show. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 03 Jul 1997 07:59:13 -0400 Bob Fritsch wrote: > > William C. Massey wrote: > > My guess is that NENA = New England Numismatic Association. > > -- > > Elongatedly Yours, > > > > William C. Massey > > TEC #1857 > > Exactly right! Come see us for our 53rd Annual Conference and > Convention in Marlborough, MA the weekend before Labor Day (22-23 Aug). Hi Bob! What are the show hours for Fri. and Sat. 8/22, 8/23? Thanks! Ben Lavine mcsquare@erols.com > We do a Friday/Saturday show as everybody seems to like that schedule. > Anthony Swiatek will be our keynote speaker and Ray Dillard will be > there to squash pennies. Should be lots of fun. > > Bob Fritsch > rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Lord's Prayer elongates Date: 03 Jul 1997 21:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Well, I've just confirmed that no one has, to date, completed a listing of all of the Lord's Prayer elongated coins. Apparently, Angelo Rosato began such a work, but was unable to complete it. The others who have publicly announced their desire to do so have also found themselves unable to make a serious effort, generally due to failing eyesight. So, I have decided to take the plunge. Martin-Dow's "Yesterday's Elongateds" lists nearly 200 variations of elongated coins with the Lord's Prayer. This book was published in 1981 and covers primarily issues up to 1965. In addition, Doug Fairbainks lists another five from this time period in his "Guide to Unlisteds". I believe that there are more than 1,000 different elongateds containing the text of the Lord's Prayer. Why so many variations? Well, the simple answer is that the Lord's Prayer is both timeless and popular. Most elongateds commemorate a special event or site, thus a roller had a finite window in which to sell those issues. However, A roller could cut a die with the Lord's Prayer and continue to roll and sell it forever. Each roller would use his own formatting and border design. Additionally, if you were ask ten people to recite the Lord's Prayer you would hear at least four different variations on it. As you can tell, this is a mammoth undertaking and one that can not be done in a vacuum. So I am sending out a call for help. If you receive an offer for a Lord's Prayer elongate, or see one for sale, please either pick it up for me, or let me know how I can get hold of it. If you have one (or more) Lord's Prayer elongates in your collection, could you possibly send me a scan or photo of it/them? Many people have expressed an interest in this work, and I will, of course, give full credit to all of those who assist me in its completion. Thank you in advance for your help! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Punk elongates? Date: 04 Jul 1997 01:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! =09I just finished going thru about 1500 newsgroup messages from=20 95-present that showed up on searcehs for pressed pennies, elongated=20 cents, etc. I just had to share this post I found in the alt.punk=20 newsgroup. 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Come see us for our 53rd Annual Conference and > > Convention in Marlborough, MA the weekend before Labor Day (22-23 Aug). > > Isn't this the same weekend that ANA is in New York? ANANY is 30 Jul - 3 Aug, one month before the NENA show. > Be sure to pick up a few extras of Ray's elongates for trades! > Coin shows are one of my areas of interest, so you can count me in for > one of each variety from the show. Will do! Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 04 Jul 1997 06:39:47 -0400 Mary C. and Ben L. wrote: > > Hi Bob! > > What are the show hours for Fri. and Sat. 8/22, 8/23? > > Thanks! Show hours are 10AM - 6PM on Friday 22 August, and 9AM - 4PM on Saturday 23 August. The Royal Plaza Trade Center is located in Marlborough, MA, Route 20 West, Exit 24B off I-495. It's about a mile from the Interstate. If you have kids, bring them for the YN Fourm (Boy Scout Coin Collecting Merit Badge can be signed off here; not sure about the Girl Scout Collecting badge). We also have exhibits and speakers and a What-Is-It? Table. Be sure to say "Hi" when you come. Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: Re: (elongates) Lord's Prayer elongates Date: 04 Jul 1997 10:07:45 -0500 I have two that I will throw into your others at no charge. janelle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarks Date: 04 Jul 1997 12:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Hi Ben! Great leads! Thanks! I'll check them out next week. All have a great weekend! -Bob In a message dated 97-07-03 22:27:49 EDT, you write: > Hi all. > > Two sources to try for dies for countermarking: > > Henry A. Evers Corp. > 72 N. Oxford St. > Providence, RI 02905 > Ph. 401-781-4767 > Fax 401-781-9581 > > OR > > Centaur Forge. ltd. > P.O. Box 340-A > 117 N. Spring St. > Burlington, WI 53105 > Ph. 414-763-9175 > Fax 414-763-8350 > > If you send Centaur Forge a hand drawn design of what you want, and the > desired overall height. They will send you a written quote within a few > days. > > If you contact either of these companies, please let them know that > their information was passed along from ads in 'The Blade' magazine. > > Good luck. > > Ben Lavine > mcsquare@erols.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ... <...> Subject: (elongates) Machine Locations Date: 04 Jul 1997 11:47:48 -0500 Does anyone know of any coin machines in Cleveland, Ohio? Is there a machine at the Rock-n-Roll Museum? What about Memphis, TN? Are there any Elvis coins? Any at Niagara Falls near Buffalo, NY? I've already checked out Willy's Hitchhikers Guide and Bert's Smashed Coin Locator. Please let me know. I may be visiting these locations very soon. Thanks! ... trueWeb Design ... http://www.truewebdesign.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) elongated pennies from Disney World Date: 04 Jul 1997 11:52:27 -0500 Does anyone have access to the full set of Disney World pennies? Would like to obtain the full set (yes I know it is a large number) on pre-82 pennies. Is it possible? Thanks. Janelle Henry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Special NASA coin sign? Date: 04 Jul 1997 23:45:57 -0700 (PDT) There's a couple of interesting points in this Newsgroup post: > > Subject: [10]Re: penny on railroad tracks > > From: [11]catherine yronwode > > Date: 1996/08/07 > > Message-Id: <32096F7A.7E25@sonic.net> > > Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban > > > > Andrew S Goldstein wrote: > > > > > > [13]swright@prairienet.org (Stephen Wright) writes: > > > > > > >Maggie Newman ([14]smnewman@gsbkma.uchicago.edu) wrote: > > > >: ObLudditeRant: Nowadays, kids have everything done FOR 'em. My daughter > > > >: owns a flattened penny created by the revisionist method of taking a > > > >: regular penny to the Chicago Museum of Science > > > >: and Industry where they have a *machine* that flattens the pennies just > > > >: the same way a train would if you put it on the tracks. Waaah. This just made me smile 8-) > > > > > > >I saw one of the penny-flattening machines in the "oasis" (highway rest > > > >stop) near O'Hare. I was amused to see a machine designed for the > > > >specific purpose of defacing U.S. currency in a public rest stop on an > > > >Interstate highway! > > > I believe this machine is still active. Confirmations? > > > >steve > > > > > > I've seen these in several places, the most interesting one being at the > > > Boston Museum of Science. The machine includes a disclaimer that states > > > that, although under normal circumstances defacing currency is illegal, > > > that particular machine provides an exception. (You put in a penny and > > > get out a government-sanctioned "NASA coin" with a picture of the space > > > shuttle on it. I'm not sure, but I think you may have to pay an > > > additional quarter as well. Okay, here's the real question. Is this report authentic? Does this sign actually say something to the effect of 'government-sanctioned'?!? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Official Disney elongates Display? Date: 05 Jul 1997 00:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Has anyone here heard anything about Disney creating a special display for their coins? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Article 23 of 796 > > > > Subject: [10]Re: Displaying Pressed Pennies? > > From: [11]rhgru@aol.com (RHGRU) > > Date: 1997/02/28 > > Message-Id: <19970228154800.KAA29113@ladder02.news.aol.com> > > Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney.parks > > [12][More Headers] > > > > On 25 Feb 1997 [13]rlange@everest.acpl.lib.in.us wrote: > > > Now that we've come home with our pockets overflowing with our newly > > >aquired pressed pennies, and quarters, what is the best way to display > > >them? Anybody out there have any ideas? Interested to hear your > > >responses. Ryan Lange > > > > Ryan: When we were at OKWR last Janaury 15, I asked in the gift shop > > about a display case for penny presses and one of the CM's told me that > > they are working on one. They have had many requests for one because the > > penny presses have become so popular. > > > > Rhona Grumet > > DVC Member > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Another possible machine location Date: 05 Jul 1997 00:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! Here is yet another possible machine location that my newsgroup search pulled up. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Article 429 of 796 > > > > Subject: [10]Re: TRIVIA TIME!!! > > From: [11]lani@lava.net (Mama Lani) > > Date: 1996/01/02 > > Message-Id: <4cc6dv$l2k@nuhou.aloha.net> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.hawaii > > > > The famous Matsumoto's Shave Ice is in Haleiwa, also. If you don't wanna > > stand in a long line, or spend lots of money on a souvenir, you can get a > > pressed penny outside their shop for just 51 cents (two quarters and a > > penny). It squishes your penny and presses a Matsumoto's shop logo onto > > the penny. Makes a cute souvenir. > > > > > > -- > > * This is Lani Teshima-Miller, posting live from Honolulu, Hawaii on LAVA * > > * We paved paradise, put up a parking lot--and now our state govt's broke * > > * lani@lava.net--fun stuff; teshima@hawaii.edu--work stuff, tax-supported * > > * Rec.arts.bodyart Tattoo FAQ maintainer...FDC Walkaround Mr. Potato Head * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Another possible machine location Date: 05 Jul 1997 01:40:33 -0700 Hi Chris, I can confirm the Matsumoto Penny Machine. I was there last Sunday. I added this one and one other Haleiwa machine to my Hawaii home page. Bert http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html Chris Aahz wrote: > > Greetings and Salutations! > > Here is yet another possible machine location that my newsgroup > search pulled up. > > Peace, > > Aahz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist > The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 > List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) > "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Article 429 of 796 > > > > > > Subject: [10]Re: TRIVIA TIME!!! > > > From: [11]lani@lava.net (Mama Lani) > > > Date: 1996/01/02 > > > Message-Id: <4cc6dv$l2k@nuhou.aloha.net> > > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.hawaii > > > > > > The famous Matsumoto's Shave Ice is in Haleiwa, also. If you don't wanna > > > stand in a long line, or spend lots of money on a souvenir, you can get a > > > pressed penny outside their shop for just 51 cents (two quarters and a > > > penny). It squishes your penny and presses a Matsumoto's shop logo onto > > > the penny. Makes a cute souvenir. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > * This is Lani Teshima-Miller, posting live from Honolulu, Hawaii on LAVA * > > > * We paved paradise, put up a parking lot--and now our state govt's broke * > > > * lani@lava.net--fun stuff; teshima@hawaii.edu--work stuff, tax-supported * > > > * Rec.arts.bodyart Tattoo FAQ maintainer...FDC Walkaround Mr. Potato Head * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) A few more locations... Date: 05 Jul 1997 02:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Okay, here's the last of the locations I found in the newsgroups: 1) The Meteor Crater. I believe this is in Arizona. 2) Science Museum - Columbus, OH. Reported cost: $1.00 3) Santa Monica, CA pier - two designs (octopus and roller coaster) reported 6/16/97 4) 'Just about any' rest stop on the NY State Thruway. Cost: 25c from hand cranked machines. 5) The Museum of Science and Industry reportedly had a machine in the mid-'70s Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine Locations Date: 05 Jul 1997 02:20:38 -0700 Hi Kathy, You will find Eurolink machines at Sea World Of Ohio. Here's some info from their Home Page: Conveniently located between Cleveland and Akron, the park is easily accessible from Ohio Turnpike exit 9, 13, 13A and Interstates 271 and 480. You might also call the Cleveland Zoo and see if they have any machines. I found Zoo Security departments seem to have a good idea of where the machines are... I know you will find Eurolink machines in Nashville at OprylandUSA (a theme park). In Memphis, you will find Eurolink's at the Memphis Zoo . If you have a Zoo pass (annual pass) from Texas, be sure to take it, many Zoo's honor passes from other Zoo's. There's a ZooNet home page (don't have the URL in front of me...) that lists the Zoo's that participate in reciprical agreements... In addition, Eurolink has machines at the Six Flags parks which are located in Los Angeles, San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, St. Louis, Chicago, New Jersey and Atlanta. As always, please jot down any Smashed Coin Locator info... I'd love to add these sites to my home pages so more of us can find the machines... Have a Smashing Good Time 8-) Bert ... wrote: > > Does anyone know of any coin machines in Cleveland, Ohio? Is there a machine at the Rock-n-Roll Museum? > What about Memphis, TN? Are there any Elvis coins? > Any at Niagara Falls near Buffalo, NY? > I've already checked out Willy's Hitchhikers Guide and Bert's Smashed Coin Locator. > Please let me know. I may be visiting these locations very soon. > Thanks! > ... > trueWeb Design > ... > http://www.truewebdesign.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine Locations Date: 05 Jul 1997 02:41:52 -0700 Kathy, A little more info... Cedar Point theme park has Eurolink machines and is on Lake Erie in Sandusky, Ohio. Take the Ohio Turnpike (I-80) to Exit 7 and follow the signs north on U.S. Route 250, or take Exit 6A and follow Route 4 north. Once you reach Sandusky, just follow the signs. Bert ... wrote: > > Does anyone know of any coin machines in Cleveland, Ohio? Is there a machine at the Rock-n-Roll Museum? > What about Memphis, TN? Are there any Elvis coins? > Any at Niagara Falls near Buffalo, NY? > I've already checked out Willy's Hitchhikers Guide and Bert's Smashed Coin Locator. > Please let me know. I may be visiting these locations very soon. > Thanks! > ... > trueWeb Design > ... > http://www.truewebdesign.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) elongated pennies from Disney World Date: 05 Jul 1997 07:55:17 -0400 James Henry wrote: > > Does anyone have access to the full set of Disney World pennies? Would > like to obtain the full set (yes I know it is a large number) on pre-82 > pennies. Is it possible? Thanks. > > Janelle Henry Hi Janelle; Try Big Al at ramsayal@ix.netcom.com (Big Al & Pooh Too) or PinocProd@aol.com Good luck. Ben Lavine mcsquare@erols.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) Special NASA coin sign? Date: 05 Jul 1997 07:57:15 -0400 Chris Aahz wrote: > > There's a couple of interesting points in this Newsgroup post: > > > > Subject: [10]Re: penny on railroad tracks > > > From: [11]catherine yronwode > > > Date: 1996/08/07 > > > Message-Id: <32096F7A.7E25@sonic.net> > > > Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban > > > > > > Andrew S Goldstein wrote: > > > > > > > > [13]swright@prairienet.org (Stephen Wright) writes: > > > > > > > > >Maggie Newman ([14]smnewman@gsbkma.uchicago.edu) wrote: > > > > >: ObLudditeRant: Nowadays, kids have everything done FOR 'em. My daughter > > > > >: owns a flattened penny created by the revisionist method of taking a > > > > >: regular penny to the Chicago Museum of Science > > > > >: and Industry where they have a *machine* that flattens the pennies just > > > > >: the same way a train would if you put it on the tracks. Waaah. > > This just made me smile 8-) > > > > > > > > >I saw one of the penny-flattening machines in the "oasis" (highway rest > > > > >stop) near O'Hare. I was amused to see a machine designed for the > > > > >specific purpose of defacing U.S. currency in a public rest stop on an > > > > >Interstate highway! > > > > > I believe this machine is still active. Confirmations? > > > > > >steve > > > > > > > > I've seen these in several places, the most interesting one being at the > > > > Boston Museum of Science. The machine includes a disclaimer that states > > > > that, although under normal circumstances defacing currency is illegal, > > > > that particular machine provides an exception. (You put in a penny and > > > > get out a government-sanctioned "NASA coin" with a picture of the space > > > > shuttle on it. I'm not sure, but I think you may have to pay an > > > > additional quarter as well. > > Okay, here's the real question. Is this report authentic? Does > this sign actually say something to the effect of 'government-sanctioned'?!? > > Peace, > > Aahz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist > The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 > List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) > "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Hi Chris. I don't think there's any such message. Just your typical "Is It Legal" type wording. C-U Ben Lavine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) 25 subscribers Date: 05 Jul 1997 18:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! As of this afternoon, The Elongated Coin Mailing List officially has 25 subscribers! When I was contemplating starting this list I assumed there would be around 25 members. Well, we've hit that in a mere two weeks! I'm very excited about this. In addition, the TEC News article has not yet been released, and I expect to get more sunscribers from there. I just had to share this milestone with all of you. I hope you all are enjoying the list as much as I am. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dresd85854@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) 25 subscribers Date: 05 Jul 1997 22:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Chris, My name is Mark and I have not actually received a list or any type of article regarding EC's. I simply subscribed to the mailing list today. I would be very interested however in any EC related information that might be coming this way. Thanks, Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) 25 subscribers Date: 05 Jul 1997 19:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Mark, Welcome to the list! Don't worry, just hang in there and you will start to see messages from the list in your mailbox. Thus far, the majority of the posts have been trade lists and machine locations. As the membership grows and people become more comfortable with how a mailing list works, there will (hopefully 8-) be more general discussion as well. How long have you been collecting elongates? Do you have a specialty area? Are you a TEC member? Maybe we should each start posting brief bios about ourselves? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) WF Elongates @ Auction Date: 06 Jul 1997 01:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! I was just looking thru the June 30th ish of Coin World (Yeah, I know it's pretty old already) and discovered a mail bid auction that contains some WF elongates. Thought some of you might want to bid, so here's the info: Jim's Coin Service P.O. Box 1981 Appleton, WI 54913 Phone: 414-739-1089 FAX: 414-739-3592 Mail Bid Sale Number: 245, Closing Date: July 9,1997 BID BY LOT NUMBER No minimum bids were listed, so I have added a few notes on pricing from my admittedlt limited experience. LOT # DESCRIPTION MY NOTES ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ 1978 1901 Pan-Expo Electric Tower Martin-Dow lists 8 different coins this COULD be. All rarity 2 ($3-$6) <1981 prices> Avg price: $6-$18 1979 1901 Pan-Expo Liberal Arts Martin-Dow lists 3 different. Rarity 1-2 ($1-$6) Avg Price: $6-$18 1980 1901 Pan-Expo Temple Music Martin-Dow lists 4 different. Rarity 2-3 ($3-$12) AVG Price: $6-$25 Hope this helps someone! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: Re: (elongates) Another possible machine location Date: 06 Jul 1997 06:16:29 -0500 Bert Creighton wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I can confirm the Matsumoto Penny Machine. I was there last Sunday. I added > this one and one other Haleiwa machine to my Hawaii home page. > > Bert > http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html > > Chris Aahz wrote: > > > > Greetings and Salutations! > > > > Here is yet another possible machine location that my newsgroup > > search pulled up. > > > > Peace, > > > > Aahz > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist > > The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 > > List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) > > "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Article 429 of 796 > > > > > > > > Subject: [10]Re: TRIVIA TIME!!! > > > > From: [11]lani@lava.net (Mama Lani) > > > > Date: 1996/01/02 > > > > Message-Id: <4cc6dv$l2k@nuhou.aloha.net> > > > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.hawaii > > > > > > > > The famous Matsumoto's Shave Ice is in Haleiwa, also. If you don't wanna > > > > stand in a long line, or spend lots of money on a souvenir, you can get a > > > > pressed penny outside their shop for just 51 cents (two quarters and a > > > > penny). It squishes your penny and presses a Matsumoto's shop logo onto > > > > the penny. Makes a cute souvenir. > > > > Have tried for two days to get to Hawaii Home page. Any problems? Would like to know about getting a penny or two from the Matsumoto shop. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Another possible machine location Date: 06 Jul 1997 10:06:00 -0700 Hi, I have tried to get to the page also. It is run out of Austin Texas by my company... Something must have happened... It will probably get resolved tomorrow. Thanks for alerting me... I was only able to get a few Matsumoto's, but will get many more next month. I can trade one now, and more in August. bc On 7/6/97 4:16 AM James Henry (jameshenry@sprintmail.com ) wrote > >Have tried for two days to get to Hawaii Home page. Any problems? >Would like to know about getting a penny or two from the Matsumoto shop. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) More information on the Museum of Science Space Shuttle penny Date: 07 Jul 1997 09:41:52 -0400 Hello everybody, I saw the Space Shuttle penny machine a year or so ago. However, I forgot to press one. It had the standard disclaimer - but didn't list any "official government sanction." I'm looking for one if anybody knows where I can get my hands on it. :) Thanks, - Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) New address Date: 07 Jul 1997 16:16:29 -0400 I have a new home address (for the people who care): Jeff Dixon 422 Mystic Ave Apt 404 Somerville, MA 02145 - Jeff :) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) PA Turnpike machines Date: 07 Jul 1997 22:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Came across this article in r.c.c. today. Anyone here planning a trip along said turnpike? > Article 4 of 5 > > Subject: Re: Elongates (Was: Shame on Family of Eagles) > From: "David J. Hickson" > Date: 1997/07/07 > Message-Id: <33C165BB.5F10@monmouth.com> > Newsgroups: rec.collecting.coins > [More Headers] > > I always understood that elogates would be equivalent to "defacing" a > coin, something that I thought was illegal. Imagine how tickled I was > to travel the PA turnpike recently and find hand-crank mills at the > turnpike authority rest stops for elongating pennies (for a donation of > an additional 50 cents, of course!) The machine allows the operator to > select one of four designs, including the L.P. My daughter loves 'em > and now I am starting to get a small accumulation of them... They > certainly look better with a pre-'82 cent for the fodder, though! > > David Hickson > Jackson, NJ > dhickson@monmouth.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) Disney World penny set Date: 08 Jul 1997 08:16:42 -0400 I looked at Big Al's web page. I guess he's charging $300 for a set. Does this seem high/extreme to other people? - Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney World penny set Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:04:22 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-08 11:55:42 EDT, you write: > I looked at Big Al's web page. I guess he's charging $300 for a set. Does > this seem high/extreme to other people? > Guess it is what ever folks will pay. I prefer to just trade. But, if I could sell say ten sets........... :-) -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney World penny set Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:08:06 -0400 Or sell a hundred... :^) At 02:04 PM 7/8/97 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-07-08 11:55:42 EDT, you write: > >> I looked at Big Al's web page. I guess he's charging $300 for a set. Does >> this seem high/extreme to other people? >> > >Guess it is what ever folks will pay. I prefer to just trade. But, if I >could sell say ten sets........... :-) > >-Bob Hoff >TEC # 2033 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney World penny set Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:14:17 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote: > > I looked at Big Al's web page. I guess he's charging $300 for a set. Does > this seem high/extreme to other people? > > - Jeff $300 seems VERY high, unless it's perhaps a complete set since the coins were installed, and contains all of the limited run coins. How many coins are in the set? BTW, what's his URL? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney World penny set Date: 08 Jul 1997 15:19:32 -0400 201 coins. Here's his URL: http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html - Jeff At 12:14 PM 7/8/97 -0700, you wrote: > >On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote: > >> >> I looked at Big Al's web page. I guess he's charging $300 for a set. Does >> this seem high/extreme to other people? >> >> - Jeff > > $300 seems VERY high, unless it's perhaps a complete set since >the coins were installed, and contains all of the limited run coins. How >many coins are in the set? > > BTW, what's his URL? > > Peace, > > Aahz > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist >The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 >List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) >"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine Locations (fwd) Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:20:28 -0700 (PDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Right next to the official Graceland gift shops are the unofficial tourist huts. There are 8 Elvis designs in one of the stores, for a whopping $1.00 each. Gotta love those royalty fees! Kathy, A little more info... Cedar Point theme park has Eurolink machines and is on Lake Erie in Sandusky, Ohio. Take the Ohio Turnpike (I-80) to Exit 7 and follow the signs north on U.S. Route 250, or take Exit 6A and follow Route 4 north. Once you reach Sandusky, just follow the signs. Bert ... wrote: > > Does anyone know of any coin machines in Cleveland, Ohio? Is there a machine at the Rock-n-Roll Museum? > What about Memphis, TN? Are there any Elvis coins? > Any at Niagara Falls near Buffalo, NY? > I've already checked out Willy's Hitchhikers Guide and Bert's Smashed Coin Locator. > Please let me know. I may be visiting these locations very soon. > Thanks! > ... > trueWeb Design > ... > http://www.truewebdesign.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) New machine located in Minnesota Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:39:18 -0500 I just heard there is a new machine at Underwater World at the Mall of America. This is seperate from the Knott's Camp Snoopy set of 7. I will be going there in the next couple of days so if anyone is interested in a set from Underwater world or the 7 from the Mall of America, let me know. I do make all on pre82 pennies FYI. Janelle Henry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) New machine located in Minnesota Date: 08 Jul 1997 15:47:15 -0400 Can you pick me up a set? - Jeff At 02:39 PM 7/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >I just heard there is a new machine at Underwater World at the Mall of >America. This is seperate from the Knott's Camp Snoopy set of 7. I >will be going there in the next couple of days so if anyone is >interested in a set from Underwater world or the 7 from the Mall of >America, let me know. I do make all on pre82 pennies FYI. > >Janelle Henry > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Big Al's Disney World set offer Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Okay, I just checked out Big Al's offer. Elsewhere on his page he mentions that all of the items he offers include a "minimal service charge" he's actually set up an entire page to explain this charge, but it comes down to a 20% surcharge on items in the parks, and no surcharge on items outside the park. There are 201 pennies offered in his set, at 51c each, this totals $102.51. Add the 20% surcharge it totals $121.02. Postage can't be more than $6, as I've received a couple seperate lots of 100 that were sent for $3 each. Obviously, collecting this set takes more effort then picking up a single souvenir, but I would also assume that he collects several sets at once, spreading this effort over several sales. My opinion: $200 is a more than fair price for this set. $300 seems extreme. I've sent a message to Al including all of the numbers and asking him to clarify the high price tag. If I hear back, I will forward his response to the list. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set Date: 08 Jul 1997 16:01:12 -0400 This is what he sent me as a response... - Jeff >From: "Big Al & Pooh Too!" >To: "Jeff Dixon" >Subject: Re: Disney World penny set >Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:24:53 -0400 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >Hi Jeff! > >Yes, If you want the entire set of pressed pennies, the cost is $300.00 >(which is cheaper than $3.00 per penny if you just collect a few of them). > >If you were to come to Orlando to collect these pennies your approximate >cost would be $102 for the pennies themselves, $217 for admission to all >the theme parks, water parks, attractions and hotels where the machines are >located, cost of a hotel stay, transportation costs, and about 1 to 2 days >of your own time to physically go from place to place collecting each >penny. > >It takes me about 2 full days to get each penny available, especially in >the summer when the parks are more crowded. Sometimes the machines are >moved to different locations than where they should be and I have to cover >every inch of the park to find it for my customer. > >Nobody else does this that I am aware of and I think $300.00 is a fair >price to pay if you're a serious collector of these pressed pennies. > >One more note, when the pennies are pressed through the machine, they are >completely flattened and imprinted with whatever character you desire. >There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on >the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new >pennies. Just curious... > >We would be happy to get the complete set for you if you want them, just >let us know.... > >Your Friend in the Parks, >Big Al > >http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) This is a test! Date: 08 Jul 1997 13:59:58 -0700 (PDT) A message got bounced today, and I'm not sure why, so I'm experimenting to see if this will get bounced as well. Please excuse the intrusion. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please add ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Administrative note Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! Okay, I just learned something new about Majordomo (the mailing list software) that I thought I should pass on to all of you. Bert Creighton sent a message to the list requesting to be added to the list of people that wanted Janelle's recently offered Minnesota set. Majordomo bounced the message to me because when Bert used the words "add*me" (without the asterick) the software thought he wanted to be added to the Mailing List. Thus no one but me got the message. I have since forwarded the message to Janelle, so you should be on her list now Bert 8-) The moral of the story: If possible, try to avoid using the words 'add' and 'me' directly after each other as the message will get bounced. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:49:49 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote: > This is what he sent me as a response... > >Nobody else does this that I am aware of and I think $300.00 is a fair > >price to pay if you're a serious collector of these pressed pennies. This is, I suppose, the cruxt of the issue. If he's the exclusive supplier, he can charge whatever he wants. I am curious, however, how many sets he's sold at this price. > >One more note, when the pennies are pressed through the machine, they are > >completely flattened and imprinted with whatever character you desire. > >There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on > >the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new > >pennies. Just curious... I assume you informed him of the zinc content. If not, someone should. Even if his prices are overly inflated those who pay deserve to get a quality product. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ENTROPYM@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set Date: 08 Jul 1997 23:16:41 -0400 (EDT) You would think that a guy this much into pressed pennies would know the difference between pre-'82 and new pennies. Should we enlighten him? Mickey M In a message dated 7/9/97 8:26:56 AM , Big Al wrote: << >One more note, when the pennies are pressed through the machine, they are >completely flattened and imprinted with whatever character you desire. >There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on >the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new >pennies. Just curious... >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Re: Disneyworld Pressed Pennies (fwd) Date: 08 Jul 1997 22:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Okay, for those of you interested in Big Al's Disney World set, here is the reply he sent me. It all makes pretty good sense to me. Bottom line: How many people here want to order these sets? We could pool money and bring the price way down! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hi Chris, Thanks for your message, I'm sorry if our fees are confusing but the service charge only applies to merchandise requested by Disney fans. If it is already on our web page with service fees, s&h included then that is the price we are charging. We have been on the internet providing our service since January of this year. Since then, this is the most interest we have had in the pressed pennies at Walt Disney World. We do NOT keep sets on hand just in case someone wants a set. When someone wants a set, we go out and get them at that time, so that answers your question about multiple sets and our price of $300 ($1.50 per penny). That does not mean that if you want 2 or 3 sets of pennies for yourself that we will charge you $300 for each set. In fact, any additional set ordered with the first set will only cost the price of the pennies or $102.50. (i.e., 3 sets of pennies = $505 or $.84 per penny). Basically our service fee for getting all 201 pennies is $197.50 which includes the shipping & handling too. The more sets you order at a time, the less cost per penny it will be! The 201 pennies include duplicate characters but made from different machines using different dies, hence, unique pennies. There are actually only 120 different characters (at last count) available. So if you didn't want the repeat characters, we would only charge $180 for the set. I hope this answers some of your questions and if we can be of service to you, please let us know... Your Friend in the Parks, Big Al http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Another possible machine location Date: 08 Jul 1997 22:54:13 -0700 (PDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- I saw another machine recently; I think it was inside the Liberty Science Center here in New Jersey near the Liberty Island and Ellis Island. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:31:59 -0400 I did explain that if I was going to shell out $300 that it would have to be pre-1982. I explained the zinc content information. I agree -- if this guy had filled one order for 201 pennies, he would know the difference. - Jeff >You would think that a guy this much into pressed pennies would know the >difference between pre-'82 and new pennies. >Should we enlighten him? > >Mickey M > >In a message dated 7/9/97 8:26:56 AM , Big Al wrote: > ><< >One more note, when the pennies are pressed through the machine, they are > >completely flattened and imprinted with whatever character you desire. > >There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on > >the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new > >pennies. Just curious... >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disneyworld Pressed Pennies (fwd) Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:39:55 -0400 A very interesting point. I would like to purchase a set -- but I don't want to spend $300. What do other people think? - Jeff At 10:25 PM 7/8/97 -0700, you wrote: >Greetings & Salutations! > > Okay, for those of you interested in Big Al's Disney World set, >here is the reply he sent me. It all makes pretty good sense to me. >Bottom line: How many people here want to order these sets? We could >pool money and bring the price way down! > > Peace, > > Aahz > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist >The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 >List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) >"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:49:28 -0400 >From: Big Al & Pooh Too! >To: Chris Aahz >Subject: Re: Disneyworld Pressed Pennies > >Hi Chris, > >Thanks for your message, I'm sorry if our fees are confusing but the >service charge only applies to merchandise requested by Disney fans. If it >is already on our web page with service fees, s&h included then that is the >price we are charging. > >We have been on the internet providing our service since January of this >year. Since then, this is the most interest we have had in the pressed >pennies at Walt Disney World. We do NOT keep sets on hand just in case >someone wants a set. When someone wants a set, we go out and get them at >that time, so that answers your question about multiple sets and our price >of $300 ($1.50 per penny). That does not mean that if you want 2 or 3 sets >of pennies for yourself that we will charge you $300 for each set. In >fact, any additional set ordered with the first set will only cost the >price of the pennies or $102.50. (i.e., 3 sets of pennies = $505 or $.84 >per penny). Basically our service fee for getting all 201 pennies is >$197.50 which includes the shipping & handling too. The more sets you >order at a time, the less cost per penny it will be! > >The 201 pennies include duplicate characters but made from different >machines using different dies, hence, unique pennies. There are actually >only 120 different characters (at last count) available. So if you didn't >want the repeat characters, we would only charge $180 for the set. > >I hope this answers some of your questions and if we can be of service to >you, please let us know... > >Your Friend in the Parks, >Big Al > >http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 09 Jul 1997 08:57:18 -0500 Lets try to get a large order for these. If 10 of us order them the total cost could get down to as low as $122.25 (102.50 for the set and $19.75 or 1/10 the $197.50 shipping and handling charge). Sounds better all the time. Put me down for a set. Janelle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dresd85854@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:06:59 -0400 (EDT) I have been getting a lot of postings regarding the WDW pennies and whether or not they are pre-82. I am a newbie. What's the significance? Thanks, Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:14:22 -0400 Hi Mark, 1982 and newer pennies contain a large amount of zinc. As a result, it leaves a "silver sheen" across the penny. On some penny presses, I haven't been able to tell the difference. But, most of the time it's pretty easy to tell. This "silver sheen" degrades from the look of the penny. It also makes smaller details harder to see. At first I thought it was a bit silly, but after pressing two pennies in a machine I saw the difference immediately. Try one of each next time you're at a machine. :) - Jeff P.S. Do you want to trade? I have pennies from the Boston area. *shameless trade plug* At 11:06 AM 7/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >I have been getting a lot of postings regarding the WDW pennies and whether >or not they are pre-82. I am a newbie. What's the significance? >Thanks, >Mark > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayne D. Michael" Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:29:01 -0700 Jeff Dixon wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > 1982 and newer pennies contain a large amount of zinc. As a result, it > leaves a "silver sheen" across the penny. > On some penny presses, I haven't been able to tell the difference. But, > most of the time it's pretty easy to tell. > > This "silver sheen" degrades from the look of the penny. It also makes > smaller details harder to see. > Even worse, that silver sheen you see will quickly turn an ugly black. How fast this happens depends on your climate. It could take a few months to a few years. -- Wayne Michael Boeing North American wayne.d.michael@boeing.com 3370 Miraloma Ave. (714) 762-8540 FAX 762-0528 Anaheim, CA M.C. DC28 Dept. 266 92803 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayne D. Michael" Subject: Re: (elongates) questions about enlongated coins from Disney Land Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:46:05 -0700 Hi, I just wanted to give everyone an update, and to thank people for the pointers to the Disneyland Pressed Penny guides. I was going to try and update the list of the D.L. machine locations, but David Tomita already has done an excellent job of this at: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Shores/3599/ (He says his site is not ready for prime time yet, but it is already ten times better than any list I would have made.) I spent the last couple Friday evenings pushing my son's stroller around pressing pennys (and nickels and quarters), while my wife and daughter went on the rides. These pressing machines are quite popular, and I frequently had to wait in line to get to the machine I needed. I can understand why "Big Al" has to charge so much for his Disney World set. (BTW. I would love to have one of his Disney World sets, but my coin buying budget is far too limited to allow for it...) We make regular trips to D.L. , so if someone wants to arrange for a trade, please contact me privately. I am extremely interested in the limited edition or seasonal pressed coins from Disneyland. -- Wayne Michael Boeing North American wayne.d.michael@boeing.com 3370 Miraloma Ave. (714) 762-8540 FAX 762-0528 Anaheim, CA M.C. DC28 Dept. 266 92803 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Okay, we've got three people lined up for the Disney World sets right now. I'd like to get at least another three sets in the order to help bring the price down. I know we've got some serious Disney fans on the list. I'm also contacting a couple of people off-list. Let's use the power of collective bargaining and get some financial savings as well as information from the list! I'm about 99% positive that when we order multiple sets at one time, Big Al will probably find a way to get us all copper pennies. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) questions about enlongated coins from Disney Land Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:57:22 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Wayne D. Michael wrote: > but David Tomita already has done an excellent job of this at: > > http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Shores/3599/ > > (He says his site is not ready for prime time yet, but it is already ten > times better than any list I would have made. This is great! The last update was iover a year ago. > > These pressing machines are quite popular, and I frequently had to wait > in line to get to the machine I needed. I can understand why "Big Al" > has to charge so much for his Disney World set. My largest problem was that he didn't need to do that labor for EVERY set. But this has been addressed, and that's why I'm not arguing with the multiple set prices. Heck, I said I figured $200 was a fair price, and we'll be getting them for less. > (BTW. I would love to > have one of his Disney World sets, but my coin buying budget is far too > limited to allow for it...) > As you've read, the more people we sign up, the less they're going to cost. If we get six (which I think is very doable), the price is only 135.42. For 200 different specific elongates, this is a pretty good price. > > We make regular trips to D.L. , so if someone wants to arrange > for a trade, please contact me privately. I am extremely interested in > the limited edition or seasonal pressed coins from Disneyland. I've been hunting pretty hard for the Limited Edition DL issues. If you find some somewhere, please let me know, and I'll do the same. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 09 Jul 1997 10:48:23 -0700 Greetings Everyone, I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al. One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great results on most of the Eurolink machines. There are a couple of older designs (such as the one in the Main Street RR Station) that do show the zinc smearing, but most of them work great with 96 coins. Eurolink also supplies machines to WDW and I would guess many of them will look good on new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines, I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you all think... One last note... A power outage knocked out the machine my Smashed Coin Locator site is on (4th of July through Monday morning). It is back up and running now. Thanks to those of you that alerted me to the outage and for your being patient. 8-) Bert Creighton On 7/9/97 9:47 AM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > > Okay, we've got three people lined up for the Disney World sets >right now. I'd like to get at least another three sets in the order to >help bring the price down. I know we've got some serious Disney fans on >the list. I'm also contacting a couple of people off-list. Let's use >the power of collective bargaining and get some financial savings as well >as information from the list! I'm about 99% positive that when we order >multiple sets at one time, Big Al will probably find a way to get us all >copper pennies. > > Peace, > > Aahz > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist >The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 >List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) >"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: (elongates) Elongate Paint? Date: 09 Jul 1997 13:46:48 -0400 (EDT) Hi; I have noticed that some of the pros use a die or paint of some kind to "tint" the obverse of the coins that they use to make EC's. After the coin has been elongated, the "flat side" shows the image of the original coin and the date because of the "tinting". Could you share with me / us the way in which this is done, and where the "paint" can be purchased? Of course, I'd like to hear from readers what they think of this technique? Is it a plus in your opinion? Thanks, -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 09 Jul 1997 13:45:07 -0400 What if we all supply pre-82 pennies? That way we're guaranteed to not have any smearing. Big Al told me he'd knock money off if I supplied my own pennies. - Jeff At 10:48 AM 7/9/97 -0700, you wrote: >Greetings Everyone, > >I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al. > >One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great >results on most of the Eurolink machines. There are a couple of older >designs (such as the one in the Main Street RR Station) that do show the >zinc smearing, but most of them work great with 96 coins. Eurolink also >supplies machines to WDW and I would guess many of them will look good on >new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best >results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines, >I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that >show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you >all think... > >One last note... A power outage knocked out the machine my Smashed Coin >Locator site is on (4th of July through Monday morning). It is back up >and running now. Thanks to those of you that alerted me to the outage and >for your being patient. 8-) > >Bert Creighton >> > >On 7/9/97 9:47 AM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > >> >> Okay, we've got three people lined up for the Disney World sets >>right now. I'd like to get at least another three sets in the order to >>help bring the price down. I know we've got some serious Disney fans on >>the list. I'm also contacting a couple of people off-list. Let's use >>the power of collective bargaining and get some financial savings as well >>as information from the list! I'm about 99% positive that when we order >>multiple sets at one time, Big Al will probably find a way to get us all >>copper pennies. >> >> Peace, >> >> Aahz >> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist >>The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 >>List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) >>"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint? Date: 09 Jul 1997 14:00:21 -0400 Depending on the design, it might detract from the detail of the penny. For example, the Penguin penny at the Boston Aquarium takes up most of the penny "face." I think it would cut into the design's detail to have the year remain. - Jeff At 01:46 PM 7/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi; > >I have noticed that some of the pros use a die or paint of some kind to >"tint" the obverse of the coins that they use to make EC's. After the coin >has been elongated, the "flat side" shows the image of the original coin and >the date because of the "tinting". Could you share with me / us the way in >which this is done, and where the "paint" can be purchased? Of course, I'd >like to hear from readers what they think of this technique? Is it a plus in >your opinion? > >Thanks, >-Bob Hoff >TEC # 2033 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 09 Jul 1997 17:23:41 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-09 16:10:59 EDT, you write: > Lets try to get a large order for these. If 10 of us order them the > total cost could get down to as low as $122.25 (102.50 for the set and > $19.75 or 1/10 the $197.50 shipping and handling charge). Sounds better > all the time. Put me down for a set. > > Janelle > > I'd bite at $125.00 +/- on pre '82's would even go for the quarters and nickels if he has 'um. Even if I was "on property", I'd pay that. Man, what a job (unless you are rolling a pile of them at one time). -Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: (elongates) Mickey Mouse Elongated Coins Date: 09 Jul 1997 17:59:19 -0700 Hey Gang! There sure is a lot of Disney talk going around... If anyone is interested, I still have a few dozen elongated cents, nickels, and quarters that commemorate Mickey's 60th Birthday (from 1988). Cents @ .50 ea. Nickels @ .75 ea Quarters @ 1.00 ea ------------------ all three @ $2.00 Please include a Self Addressed STAMPED Envelope with any order, and mail to: William C. Massey P.O. Box 1511, Beltsville, MD 20705 -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint? Date: 09 Jul 1997 18:15:42 -0700 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > > Hi; > > I have noticed that some of the pros use a die or paint of some kind to > "tint" the obverse of the coins that they use to make EC's. After the coin > has been elongated, the "flat side" shows the image of the original coin and > the date because of the "tinting". Could you share with me / us the way in > which this is done, and where the "paint" can be purchased? Of course, I'd > like to hear from readers what they think of this technique? Is it a plus in > your opinion? Perhaps I can shed a bit of light on this topic :) The late, great, Frank Brazzell taught me this technique in the summer of '94! To produce an elongated with a shiny obverse, and a reverse that retains the original coin's design: spray the shiny coins (on one side) with "Deft" brand wood stain, and allow to dry. He liked to use Spanish Walnut 621, or Fruitwood 641 to do the job. This type of Stain can be purchased at most quality hardware stores. The problem with this is that it is very difficult, if not impossible, to tell which side of the coin will be the Obverse or Reverse of the finished elongated when rolling with one of the "vending" type of machines. Another possibility (for retaining a good image on the reverse of the elongated) is to use an old, brown, copper (pre-'82) cent and then use a pencil eraser to clean the Obverse -- Ray Dillard told me about this method. Happy Rolling! -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 09 Jul 1997 21:15:54 -0500 I will supply my pre82 pennies as well to Al. Now, a couple of questions. Who wants to coordinate all this? Is any one even going to dare tell him about putting the image side on the Lincoln side (yea right! Who wants that job!!!) and who wants to be the "Big Al" of California now?? One set from Florida deserves a matching set from California don't you think?!! Come on, someone out there volunteer for this job. Think how strong your arms would be if they are the type you have to roll yourself. Really would like that full set also. Janelle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: (elongates) Steel... Date: 09 Jul 1997 23:58:03 -0400 Hi all. Just to add to Chris Aahz post awhile ago... Tried 1943 steel cents in two machines in NH this past weekend; Mt. Washington Auto Rd. and Conway Scenic Railroad. One was hand-cranked and the other was automatic. Both came out fine. I noticed no difference in the way the machines operated on steel or copper (pre '82) pennies. I think the images are just a bit clearer on steel. BTW, I have a couple of each on steel to trade... e-mail me if interested. Ben Lavine mcsquare@erols.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Steel... Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:24:32 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Mary C. and Ben L. wrote: > Tried 1943 steel cents in two machines in NH this past weekend; Mt. > Washington Auto Rd. and Conway Scenic Railroad. One was hand-cranked > and the other was automatic. Both came out fine. I noticed no Ben, Did you happen to notice what company supplied the automatic machine? Most newer Eurolink machines have a 'e' in the border either on the top or at the left end. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:32:39 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al. That's four! We're down to $151.88 and dropping! > > One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great > results on most of the Eurolink machines. I have seen it reported (although not confirmed myself, that the zinc will begin to blacken with time. The longest I hav had any zinc elongates is about 18 months and I haven't seen it happen yet, but someone said that somewhere. > new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best > results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines, > I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that > show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you > all think... The key point is that we need to keep it simple. Big Al is not an elongate collector (yet!), but a businessman. We need to try not to overwhelm him with details, especially with the possibility of lines at machines. I believe the majority would like pre-'82 pennies so that no chances are taken. I have several rolls of BU pre-'82s that are basically just as shiny as current coinage. I can probably get more as they're readily available at coin shows and sometimes shops for just a couple bucks each. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:35:02 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > I'd bite at $125.00 +/- on pre '82's would even go for the quarters and > nickels if he has 'um. Even if I was "on property", I'd pay that. Man, what > a job (unless you are rolling a pile of them at one time). Well, if we count Bob in, we're down to $142. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint? Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Bob, Thank you for asking this question. It has been on my mind as of late as well. Willy, Thanx for your answer! Personally, I think Frank Brazzell rolled the best looking coins I've seen, both front and back! I will be making a trip to the local hardware store in the near future. Jeff, Typically, only the side of the coin that will not be imprinted is coated. The obverse comes out with little remains of the penny and the reverse comes out with a perfect image. Someone addressed the question of which side gets the design on automated machines. Each machine is internally consistent. So, roll a test (non-coated) coin for your trade stock, making note of orientation and then you know for that machine! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 09 Jul 1997 23:05:29 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, James Henry wrote: > I will supply my pre82 pennies as well to Al. Jeff mentioned that Big Al would lower the price if pennies are supplied. I assume the drop in expense would be $2.01 per set as this is actual cost. This deal just keeps getting better! > Now, a couple of > questions. Who wants to coordinate all this? Well, Jeff introduced the topic, but I'm not going to volunteer him, he can do that himself if he's interested. I would be willing to do it if he is not. Most of you have traded with me in the past, so that's gotta be some kind of personal reference. I would be willing to locate pre-82 coins for anyone not able to supply their own as well. I think the best way to handle it is to send Big Al one cashiers check (as it will obviously be large) and enough pre '82 pennies to roll them all, then have him mail them all to one address. Then I (or whomever coordinates this) would distribute the sets. Just my opinion, others are welcome. > Is any one even going to > dare tell him about putting the image side on the Lincoln side (yea > right! Who wants that job!!!) This is probably too much to ask. > and who wants to be the "Big Al" of > California now?? One set from Florida deserves a matching set from > California don't you think?!! Come on, someone out there volunteer for > this job. Think how strong your arms would be if they are the type you > have to roll yourself. Really would like that full set also. Well, I know we have at least one subscriber that lives in the area, but I'm not naming names, they know who they are and will volunteer if they feel up to it. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint? Date: 10 Jul 1997 02:20:57 -0700 Chris Aahz wrote: > > Someone addressed the question of which side gets the design on > automated machines. Each machine is internally consistent. So, roll a > test (non-coated) coin for your trade stock, making note of orientation > and then you know for that machine! > Please Note: The above information is NOT always true! Perhaps it is for Eurolink machines (I really don't know, firt hand), however, I have seen other makes of machines where the coin drops onto a slide, and is then pushed horizontaly between the rollers. On this type of machine, the coin bounces onto the slide in an inconsistant fashion. You know me, always throwing my "two cents worts" in! --Willy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint? Date: 09 Jul 1997 23:29:27 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Chris Aahz wrote: > > > > Someone addressed the question of which side gets the design on > > automated machines. Each machine is internally consistent. So, roll a > > test (non-coated) coin for your trade stock, making note of orientation > > and then you know for that machine! > > > > Please Note: > The above information is NOT always true! Perhaps it is for Eurolink > machines (I really don't know, firt hand), however, I have seen other > makes of machines where the coin drops onto a slide, and is then pushed > horizontaly between the rollers. On this type of machine, the coin > bounces onto the slide in an inconsistant fashion. I stand (sit? type? glow?) corrected. My experience is with Eurolink and San Francisco Penny Machine Company machines and have found them to be internally consistent. I should have clarified this in my previous post. Thanx for the warning Willy! > > You know me, always throwing my "two cents worts" in! > And what long cents they are 8-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) Steel vs copper Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:17:10 -0400 How much are steel pennies versus copper? It sounds like a fun idea to press some pennies with steel. - Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) Steel... Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:44:18 -0400 Chris Aahz wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Mary C. and Ben L. wrote: > > > Tried 1943 steel cents in two machines in NH this past weekend; Mt. > > Washington Auto Rd. and Conway Scenic Railroad. One was hand-cranked > > and the other was automatic. Both came out fine. I noticed no > > Ben, > > Did you happen to notice what company supplied the automatic > machine? Most newer Eurolink machines have a 'e' in the border either on > the top or at the left end. > > Peace, > > Aahz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist > The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 > List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) > "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Chris, Not sure but I'll check. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:50:13 -0400 At 09:15 PM 7/9/97 -0500, you wrote: >I will supply my pre82 pennies as well to Al. Now, a couple of >questions. Who wants to coordinate all this? [snip] Sure! I'm crazy. I'm willing to coordinate the great "Big Al WDW penny fest." We currently have 5 people, right? Before anyone sends me anything - send me e-mail. Thanks, - Jeff Address: Jeff Dixon 422 Mystic Ave #404 Somerville, MA 02145 jeffd@kurzweil.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:51:06 -0400 Chris Aahz wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > > > I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al. > > That's four! We're down to $151.88 and dropping! > > > > One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great > > results on most of the Eurolink machines. > > I have seen it reported (although not confirmed myself, that the > zinc will begin to blacken with time. The longest I hav had any zinc > elongates is about 18 months and I haven't seen it happen yet, but > someone said that somewhere. > > > new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best > > results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines, > > I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that > > show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you > > all think... > > The key point is that we need to keep it simple. Big Al is not > an elongate collector (yet!), but a businessman. We need to try not to > overwhelm him with details, especially with the possibility of lines at > machines. I believe the majority would like pre-'82 pennies so that no > chances are taken. I have several rolls of BU pre-'82s that are > basically just as shiny as current coinage. I can probably get more as > they're readily available at coin shows and sometimes shops for just a > couple bucks each. > > Peace, > > Aahz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist > The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 > List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) > "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Has anyone ever tried spraying the elongated coin with acrylic or some such? Should keep ANY coin from tarnishing as sprayed-on plastic will deny the metal any exposure to air which is neccesary for the chemical reaction. BTW climate will play a BIG role in tarnishing of both zinc and copper. (And steel.) Regards... Ben Lavine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) Steel... Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:56:04 -0400 Chris Aahz wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Mary C. and Ben L. wrote: > > > Tried 1943 steel cents in two machines in NH this past weekend; Mt. > > Washington Auto Rd. and Conway Scenic Railroad. One was hand-cranked > > and the other was automatic. Both came out fine. I noticed no > > Ben, > > Did you happen to notice what company supplied the automatic > machine? Most newer Eurolink machines have a 'e' in the border either on > the top or at the left end. > > Peace, > > Aahz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist > The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 > List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) > "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey Chris; I have seen only pictures of the newer Eurolink machines. The machine at the Conway Scenic Railroad seems to be an older machine. You will probably be able to tell more from the coin than I can as I am a relative newbie-neophyte to the details of elongated coins. Give me a little time to peruse your trade list. I will hold one of each for you. C-U Ben Lavine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:10:21 -0400 Chris Aahz wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > > > I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al. > > That's four! We're down to $151.88 and dropping! > > > > One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great > > results on most of the Eurolink machines. > > I have seen it reported (although not confirmed myself, that the > zinc will begin to blacken with time. The longest I hav had any zinc > elongates is about 18 months and I haven't seen it happen yet, but > someone said that somewhere. > > > new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best > > results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines, > > I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that > > show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you > > all think... > > The key point is that we need to keep it simple. Big Al is not > an elongate collector (yet!), but a businessman. We need to try not to > overwhelm him with details, especially with the possibility of lines at > machines. I believe the majority would like pre-'82 pennies so that no > chances are taken. I have several rolls of BU pre-'82s that are > basically just as shiny as current coinage. I can probably get more as > they're readily available at coin shows and sometimes shops for just a > couple bucks each. > > Peace, > > Aahz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist > The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 > List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) > "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi all... For my two cents worth (Pun absolutely intended) I think you should fill in Big Al about the pre-'82 pennies. Ask him to check on the availablity of BU pre-'82 rolled pennies. Not that I'm 'Joe-Florida' but every time I've been there I've seen dozens of coin shops. As stated, Big Al's a business guy and he can apparently hold his own with a computer. So give him a chance. Also, a thought on the quantity discount idea: How many complete sets of these would turn efficiency into a logistical nightmare? 10 sets is over 1,000 pennies... I ordered a pair of elongated quarters from Big Al. I'll post to the list when they arrive... Hey, has anyone ever tried silver quarters? I've never even SEEN a quarter press or I'd try it myself... Silver quarters in poor condition still polish up pretty nicely! Later... Ben Lavine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint? Date: 10 Jul 1997 10:08:46 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-10 02:42:44 EDT, you write: > Perhaps I can shed a bit of light on this topic :) > The late, great, Frank Brazzell taught me this technique in the summer > of '94! > To produce an elongated with a shiny obverse, and a reverse that retains > the original coin's design: spray the shiny coins (on one side) with > "Deft" brand wood stain, and allow to dry. He liked to use Spanish > Walnut 621, or Fruitwood 641 to do the job. This type of Stain can be > purchased at most quality hardware stores. > > The problem with this is that it is very difficult, if not impossible, > to tell which side of the coin will be the Obverse or Reverse of the > finished elongated when rolling with one of the "vending" type of > machines. > > Another possibility (for retaining a good image on the reverse of the > elongated) is to use an old, brown, copper (pre-'82) cent and then use > a pencil eraser to clean the Obverse -- Ray Dillard told me about this > method. > > Happy Rolling! > > -- > Elongatedly Yours, > > William C. Massey > TEC #1857 > Thank you William! I'm on the way to the hardware store! -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 10 Jul 1997 10:08:53 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-10 03:30:36 EDT, you write: > I will supply my pre82 pennies as well to Al. Now, a couple of > questions. Who wants to coordinate all this? Is any one even going to > dare tell him about putting the image side on the Lincoln side (yea > right! Who wants that job!!!) and who wants to be the "Big Al" of > California now?? One set from Florida deserves a matching set from > California don't you think?!! Come on, someone out there volunteer for > this job. Think how strong your arms would be if they are the type you > have to roll yourself. Really would like that full set also. > > Janelle > > Hi Janelle! Hmmmmm I'm looking around my office for a volunteer as we speak. :-) Problem at Disneyland as I see it is that the set is a "moving target", they switch machines and add them often. Someone that wants a "complete set" may be unhappy when they see one they don't have. I'll be away from the PC and e-mail for a while, but, will get back to all. Happy Collecting, -Bob Hoff TEC #2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:11:04 -0700 Greetings, Keeping it simple for Big is important, I'm all for the pre-82's and will work on rounding up as many as possible. COME ON the rest of you, this is a great opportunity to get a full set of great Eurolink designs! Tell your friends that are not on this list... THANKS to Jeff Dixon for putting this info up on Kathy's Bulletin Board! Great idea! (Note: Kathy has a message on the BBoard saying her email is having some problems... I'm having some trouble getting updates to my web site as well... bc) One more idea, tell your Disney friends about the full WDW set, even if they are not now coin collectors. There are lots of Disney sites on the web! Let's get a few more WDW orders! Bert On 7/9/97 10:32 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > >On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > >> I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al. > > That's four! We're down to $151.88 and dropping! >> >> One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great >> results on most of the Eurolink machines. > > I have seen it reported (although not confirmed myself, that the >zinc will begin to blacken with time. The longest I hav had any zinc >elongates is about 18 months and I haven't seen it happen yet, but >someone said that somewhere. > > >> new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best >> results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines, >> I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that >> show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you >> all think... > > The key point is that we need to keep it simple. Big Al is not >an elongate collector (yet!), but a businessman. We need to try not to >overwhelm him with details, especially with the possibility of lines at >machines. I believe the majority would like pre-'82 pennies so that no >chances are taken. I have several rolls of BU pre-'82s that are >basically just as shiny as current coinage. I can probably get more as >they're readily available at coin shows and sometimes shops for just a >couple bucks each. > > Peace, > > Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) Southern CA "Big Al" + Possible Disney Meeting... Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:19:50 -0700 Greetings Everyone! On Kathy's BBoard I signed up to roll coins in Southern California (San Diego, Disneyland...) and in Hawaii (if you can wait a month or 2 in between trips). I know there are others on this list that visit Disneyland on a regular basis... Are you interested in a join collecting trip someday this summer or perhaps after school starts again. It would be fun to meet other collectors in person and trade some stories as well as pennies (and other coins). You can check the Smashed Coin Locator at: < http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html> More updates including a new WDW page and lots more Hawaii locations will be posted to my site this week. Bert On 7/9/97 11:05 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote >> and who wants to be the "Big Al" of >> California now?? One set from Florida deserves a matching set from >> California don't you think?!! Come on, someone out there volunteer for >> this job. Think how strong your arms would be if they are the type you >> have to roll yourself. Really would like that full set also. > > Well, I know we have at least one subscriber that lives in the >area, but I'm not naming names, they know who they are and will volunteer >if they feel up to it. > > Peace, > > Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) "Steelies" The Real Story Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:57:40 -0700 Greetings Once Again! I have a friend that knows Eurolink machines! Here's the inside scoop on steelies and Eurolink machines (this does not apply to all pressing machines, so please use care and caution... These machines are someone's business/income!!!) On steelies, my friend says: >...but steel pennies don't phase Eurolink machines. Eurolink dies >are exceptionally hard so no problem. One caveat however; for a few years >Eurolink had magnetic traps on the coin input system to trap super hard ferrous coins. >This would grab any ferrous coins before they entered the press so the >"guest" would not get the pressed penny in this instance. Adding traps was done mainly because the new Canadian pennies have a ferrous content and it seems lots of Canadian pennies were going into Eurolink machines -- this doesn't cause a problem to the press but makes a badly sized pressed penny. Well, if enough of these pennies were "grabbed" it eventually blocked the coin input. So off came the traps -- on most machines. There still could be a few machines out there with these magnet traps. I saw a non-Eurolink machine in Hawaii last week that had a magnet trap. So you really need to look and see if there's a magnet trap before inserting your steelies. [ Anyone have 201 steelies they can sell me? 8-) ] If you 'steel' have questions, let me know. Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) Silver Quarters Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:09:44 -0700 Ah, great minds think alike! On the subject of silver quarters... I have tried them on Eurolink machines and I got some amazing results. Easily my favorite coins in my small collection. Use a good silver polish BEFORE pressing (smmashing, rolling, elongating...) and you'll get the best results. As with all coins, you should consult a coin pricing guide or coin shop. I have found many bookstores carrying paperback (and hard cover) books on coin prices. Be sure you are not smashing something of real numismatic value. So silver does work and has a wonderful finish (from the Eurolink's I have tried). I am looking for all the locations of Quarter machines (and all pressing machines) to add to my Smashed Coin Locator pages (shameless plug). Thanks to everyone that has sent locations, I hope the 'Locator' is of use in planning your collecting trips... Bert Creighton Smashed Coin Locator http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote: > Sure! I'm crazy. I'm willing to coordinate the great "Big Al WDW penny > fest." > We currently have 5 people, right? Wonderful! By my count we have 4 and a maybe: Jeff, Janelle, Chris, Bert, and (maybe) Bob. It seems like we've got a few more questions for Big Al: 1) Would he prefer to ship to one address or to each (your preference obviously relevant here also, Jeff) 2) Would he be willing/able to find a coin shop to get some BU coppers for us 3) Price variations based on these two issues. If Big Al ships 'em all to Jeff, we each need to reimburse Jeff for postage to us. Not a problem, just something we all need to be aware of. 4) Hmmm...I could of sworn there was a four..... Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:45:07 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > THANKS to Jeff Dixon for putting this info up on Kathy's Bulletin Board! > Great idea! Jeff's really on the ball here. Huzzah! > > (Note: Kathy has a message on the BBoard saying her email is having some > problems... I'm having some trouble getting updates to my web site as > well... bc) > Yes, list messages to Kathy have been bouncing back since sometime last week. I have no other way to contact her (other than snail mail) so have just been waiting things out. I have saved a couple of messages from the list that I think may be of interest to her, (including submissions for her FAQ), but am unable to save them all. Since she can post to her Message Borad and did so after Jeff's posting regarding WDW I assume she knows about it. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:54:11 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > I know there are others on this list that visit Disneyland on a regular > basis... Are you interested in a join collecting trip someday this summer > or perhaps after school starts again. It would be fun to meet other > collectors in person and trade some stories as well as pennies (and other > coins). Now THIS is great idea! We can have the first ever Elongated Coin Mailing List Meet, Trade session, and Collection trip! I would LOVE to put faces to some of these names. I'm in Northern California, so could probably drive down for the weekend (How much is DL admission these days?) How many people would be interested/able to make a trip to Disneyland? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 10 Jul 1997 13:24:46 -0400 > 1) Would he prefer to ship to one address or to each (your >preference obviously relevant here also, Jeff) It doesn't matter to me either way. If some people have steel and some don't, it might make more sense for him to ship them all to me. That way, we can prevent people getting the wrong sets. If we limit the amount of things that Big Al has to remember per machine, it should keep the amount of money he charges lower. - Jeff P.S. What if we tell him we'll give him free advertising on our web pages???? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 10 Jul 1997 11:09:29 -0700 Greetings, Some of us have Year Round Passes or Magic Kingdom Cards and can get some discounted tickets. There might also be a possible group rate we can arrange. Let's see how many people would need to buy tickets (and many have passes) and go from there. FYI, Saturdays are very busy from now until school starts again. Not a problem unless you want to ride Pirates more than once in a day! bc On 7/10/97 9:54 AM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > >On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > >> I know there are others on this list that visit Disneyland on a regular >> basis... Are you interested in a join collecting trip someday this summer >> or perhaps after school starts again. It would be fun to meet other >> collectors in person and trade some stories as well as pennies (and other >> coins). > > > Now THIS is great idea! We can have the first ever Elongated >Coin Mailing List Meet, Trade session, and Collection trip! I would LOVE >to put faces to some of these names. I'm in Northern California, so >could probably drive down for the weekend (How much is DL admission these >days?) > > How many people would be interested/able to make a trip to Disneyland? > > Peace, > > Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) "Steelies" The Real Story Date: 10 Jul 1997 14:52:10 -0400 Bert Creighton wrote: > > Greetings Once Again! > > I have a friend that knows Eurolink machines! Here's the inside scoop on > steelies and Eurolink machines (this does not apply to all pressing > machines, so please use care and caution... These machines are someone's > business/income!!!) > > On steelies, my friend says: > > >...but steel pennies don't phase Eurolink machines. Eurolink dies > >are exceptionally hard so no problem. One caveat however; for a few years > >Eurolink had magnetic traps on the coin input system to trap super hard > ferrous coins. > >This would grab any ferrous coins before they entered the press so the > >"guest" would not get the pressed penny in this instance. > > Adding traps was done mainly because the new Canadian pennies have a > ferrous content and it seems lots of Canadian pennies were going into > Eurolink machines -- this doesn't cause a problem to the press but makes > a badly sized pressed penny. Well, if enough of these pennies were > "grabbed" it eventually blocked the coin input. So off came the traps -- > on most machines. There still could be a few machines out there with > these magnet traps. I saw a non-Eurolink machine in Hawaii last week that > had a magnet trap. So you really need to look and see if there's a magnet > trap before inserting your steelies. > > [ Anyone have 201 steelies they can sell me? 8-) ] Hi Bert... There is a coin shop in a neighboring town which has a box of steelies loose. $.10 each. Might be a little steep ($20.10) but let me know if you want me to pick some up for you. Lots of coin shops seem to have circulated steel pennies. Ben Lavine > If you 'steel' have questions, let me know. > > Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) Steel vs copper Date: 10 Jul 1997 14:56:24 -0400 Jeff Dixon wrote: > > How much are steel pennies versus copper? It sounds like a fun idea to > press some pennies with steel. > > - Jeff > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com > Software Engineer > Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com > 411 Waverley Oaks Road > Waltham, MA 02154 Jeff; Just did some steelies in NH. They work really well. Nice detail. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) "Steelies" The Real Story Date: 10 Jul 1997 15:02:45 -0400 There is a place right down the street from where I work. I'll take a look and compare prices. .10 might be the best price. :( [snip] >There is a coin shop in a neighboring town which has a box of steelies >loose. $.10 each. Might be a little steep ($20.10) but let me know if >you want me to pick some up for you. Lots of coin shops seem to have >circulated steel pennies. > >Ben Lavine ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayne D. Michael" Subject: (elongates) Proofs? Date: 10 Jul 1997 13:21:29 -0700 With all the talk about steel, copper, and zinc, I was wondering if anyone has tried pressing a proof cent? I have a hunch the result might be very pleasing. There used to be dealers that would advertise rolls of proof singles(*), but I can't find any in the recent coin mags I have. I can't remember the advertised prices, but I don't see why a proof cent should not be in the 0.50 to 1.00 range... (*) Dealers break up proof sets all the time. I am thinking about stopping by the local coin shop and seeing if he has a few proof singles I could experiment with. -- Wayne Michael Boeing North American wayne.d.michael@boeing.com 3370 Miraloma Ave. (714) 762-8540 FAX 762-0528 Anaheim, CA M.C. DC28 Dept. 266 92803 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Proofs? Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:27:52 -0400 I think I would only use proof pennies on very special ones. Otherwise, it seems a little high for my collection. Just my 0.02, - Jeff :) At 01:21 PM 7/10/97 -0700, you wrote: >With all the talk about steel, copper, and zinc, I was wondering if >anyone >has tried pressing a proof cent? I have a hunch the result might >be >very pleasing. > >There used to be dealers that would advertise rolls of proof singles(*), >but I can't find any in the recent coin mags I have. I can't remember >the >advertised prices, but I don't see why a proof cent should not be in the >0.50 to 1.00 range... > >(*) Dealers break up proof sets all the time. > >I am thinking about stopping by the local coin shop and seeing if he has >a few proof singles I could experiment with. > >-- >Wayne Michael Boeing North American >wayne.d.michael@boeing.com 3370 Miraloma Ave. >(714) 762-8540 FAX 762-0528 Anaheim, CA >M.C. DC28 Dept. 266 92803 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Silver Quarters Date: 10 Jul 1997 15:48:13 -0700 Hey Gang! I would like to add to the SILVER Quarter topic: Make sure that you examine the finished product VERY carefully before going crazy, and rolling a whole bunch of the same die. I have found that the silver doesn't flow well into some of the deeper-cut dies... so check that first one! However, please don't let my comment discourage you from giving it a try. As Bert says, you may get "amazing results." --Willy Bert Creighton wrote: > > Ah, great minds think alike! > > On the subject of silver quarters... I have tried them on Eurolink > machines and I got some amazing results. Easily my favorite coins in my > small collection. Use a good silver polish BEFORE pressing (smmashing, > rolling, elongating...) and you'll get the best results. > > As with all coins, you should consult a coin pricing guide or coin shop. > I have found many bookstores carrying paperback (and hard cover) books on > coin prices. Be sure you are not smashing something of real numismatic > value. > > So silver does work and has a wonderful finish (from the Eurolink's I > have tried). > > I am looking for all the locations of Quarter machines (and all pressing > machines) to add to my Smashed Coin Locator pages (shameless plug). > Thanks to everyone that has sent locations, I hope the 'Locator' is of > use in planning your collecting trips... > > Bert Creighton > Smashed Coin Locator > http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Proofs? Date: 10 Jul 1997 18:02:10 -0700 Hey Gang, here I go again :) Rolling proof coins offer no real rewards. It is impossible to tell if an elongated specimen was rolled from a proof, unless.... you prepare the coin's obverse to preserve the "S" mintmark (using a date that the Mint did not produce circulating "S" coins), and then roll that coin with that side being the elongated's reverse. Otherwise, a nice UNC will offer the same results. In my previous comments about silver quarters, I forgot to mention that the can usually be obtained from coin stores at around 3-4 times face value. --Willy Wayne D. Michael wrote: > > With all the talk about steel, copper, and zinc, I was wondering if > anyone > has tried pressing a proof cent? I have a hunch the result might > be > very pleasing. > > There used to be dealers that would advertise rolls of proof singles(*), > but I can't find any in the recent coin mags I have. I can't remember > the > advertised prices, but I don't see why a proof cent should not be in the > 0.50 to 1.00 range... > > (*) Dealers break up proof sets all the time. > > I am thinking about stopping by the local coin shop and seeing if he has > a few proof singles I could experiment with. > > -- > Wayne Michael Boeing North American > wayne.d.michael@boeing.com 3370 Miraloma Ave. > (714) 762-8540 FAX 762-0528 Anaheim, CA > M.C. DC28 Dept. 266 92803 -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dresd85854@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 10 Jul 1997 19:32:53 -0400 (EDT) If someone is going to get a set of Disneyland coins together. I would be interested in a set of those also. Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Preserving Dates (was Re: Disney World penny set) Date: 10 Jul 1997 23:16:21 -0400 Big Al wrote to Jeff Dixon: [snip] >There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on >the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new >pennies. Just curious... A trick I leared from the Master, Ray Dillard, is to paint the coin before you send it through the rollers. It is necessary only to paint the side on the smooth roller, usually the obverse with the date. All details of the original coin are preserved although stretched out. It works with dirty coins too, but not as nice. I usually use a wood-color or tan spray paint for copper coins and silver paint for white coins. Apply one coat only, not too thin and not too thick. Experience will tell you what is just right. With automatic machines, it is tricky to get the painted side correctly oriented. I ran across one machine in Norfolk that no matter which way I put in the coin, the painted side was always toward the design roller. You can usually figure it out though and get it right most of the time. Regards, Bob Fritsch TEC #1871 rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 10 Jul 1997 20:36:18 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote: > It doesn't matter to me either way. If some people have steel and some > don't, it might make more sense for him > to ship them all to me. That way, we can prevent people getting the wrong > sets. > > If we limit the amount of things that Big Al has to remember per machine, > it should keep the amount of money he charges lower. > I agree with this wholeheartedly! I didn't realize people were talking about getting this set on steel. Personally, I think pre-82s is plenty to ask. When you're at the coins shop checking steelie prices why don't you ask what he'd charge for 20 or so rolls of BU pre-82 cents. If you can get them all locally at a fair price we can allsave a pretty penny ;) on postage. > P.S. What if we tell him we'll give him free advertising on our web pages???? This sounds good too! (Of course, my web page is totally blank because I have no way to do anything with it, but....) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mgmears@aol.com Subject: (elongates) Cleaning elongate pennies with toothpaste Date: 10 Jul 1997 23:58:04 -0400 (EDT) You mentioned using a pencil eraser to clean the obverse (or reverse, for that matter) of a copper penny or elongated penny. To clean my elongate pennies, I use a tiny dab of toothpaste and a toothbrush. Really! And tartar-control toothpaste works best. (Ok, that last part was a joke.) Mark Mears TEC #1972 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 10 Jul 1997 21:20:06 -0700 um, yeah, hi! i'm new to this list, but i've been collecting squished pennies for a while now. thanks to aahz for inviting me. i'm mostly a disneyland collector, not because i only want dl squishies, but because i seem to live there...but i do have a few others. i've never thought of trading these, as i kinda thought part of the collection was in the hunting process;) but who knows, maybe i'll soften up to the idea... anyways, i'm damn interested in a munch at dl (season passholder, and i plan on using it as many times as possible!!!) a day of squishing pennies with others who won't get bored sounds great to me! still have to get that pennie from the train station... -nikki -- 'you do know elvis is dead, right?' 'no he isn't. he just went home.'-MIB http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 10 Jul 1997 22:01:50 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, tink!!! wrote: > um, yeah, hi! i'm new to this list, but i've been collecting squished > pennies for a while now. Welcome to the list! > i seem to live there...but i do have a few others. i've never thought > of trading these, as i kinda thought part of the collection was in the > hunting process;) but who knows, maybe i'll soften up to the idea... Believe me, there is still quite an element of the hunt in trading as well! There are numerous coins that I know to exist that I have not been able to find other than thru trades. Besides, elongated coins have been made for over 100 years. That leaves thousands that you'll never find a machine for. > > anyways, i'm damn interested in a munch at dl (season passholder, and i > plan on using it as many times as possible!!!) a day of squishing > pennies with others who won't get bored sounds great to me! still have > to get that pennie from the train station... > Great! That's three! Any other interested parties? I'd like to meet at least four or five of you if I'm going to put in 16 hours of driving! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Quoting Date: 10 Jul 1997 22:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! A small item of netiquette has come up on the list that I feel the need to address. That is quoting. When you reply to a message on the list, please only quote the relevant part of the message you are replying to. If for some reason your e-mail software will not allow you to remove parts of the quotes, please post your comments ABOVE the quoted message. I (and others) read nearly 100 messages a day. Having to go through a reply that contains the entirety of one, two, or occaisonally even three previous messages is VERY tedious. Thank you for your time. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) San Diego Zoo elongates Date: 10 Jul 1997 23:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Found this in alt.disney.disneyland. Bert, are you paying attention here? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Newsgroups: alt.disney.disneyland Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33C5997D.7D67@concentric.net> Reply-To: pdieker@concentric.net I hit the squished penny jackpot at the San Diego Zoo. Scotts been witholding some very valuable info regarding this matter and should be punished ;) The SD Zoo has a penny machine per exibit just about and 2 for the Pandas. The Polar Bears had a quarter machine to honor them. Just thought I'd let those of you that collect know this. The Zoo is also obviously where all the good merch. buyers work because all the merchandise there is so great. In fact the big shop by the exit has some wonderful Adventureland merch. What a great place to SPEND MONEY. (Do you think we could slyly put an ad in the San Diego Union for the DL Merch. Buyers Job?) -- end of forwarded message -- Okay, I want a set! San Diego is your turf is it not Bert? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) San Diego Zoo elongates Date: 11 Jul 1997 00:01:12 -0700 On 7/10/97 11:20 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > Okay, I want a set! San Diego is your turf is it not Bert? > > Peace, > > Aahz Greetings! Yes indeed, SD is my surf (ah... turf). I need to pick up a couple of full sets... so if possible, please let me know in the next 10 days who else will want a set. I will need to find a source of pre-82's (sound familiar?) to get the best results. I assume you also want the cool Polar Bear quarter... yes? You can send me email at creightoniii@home.com. One note, I will not be reading email next week... Take Care everyone... bc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) pre-82 Sources Date: 11 Jul 1997 00:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! A number of people have presented the dilemmna of where to find coppers for rolling. Personally, I bought a 500 ct lot of wheaties from eBay a while back. In addition I pick up rolls at $1-$2 a piece at auction, shows, and shops. Best, of course, is gleaning them from circulation! I never give pennies at shops anymore. Every night I sort thru my pocket accumulation and pull out the coppers. The zincs I save until I get REALLY desperate for cash (anyone else ever bought basic groceries with pennies?). I manage to pull about ten coppers out of circulation on a weekly basis (out of about 45 pennies). Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 11 Jul 1997 00:52:31 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > there. FYI, Saturdays are very busy from now until school starts again. > Not a problem unless you want to ride Pirates more than once in a day! > Are Sundays as bad as Saturdays? Actually, I was just looking at the calendar and the first weekend I'll be free (after giving myself time to earn the spare cash for the trip) would be Labor Day weekend. I assume it will be a mob scene (doesn't bother me much, I hit the big rides during the parades 8-). The weekend before that I'm commotted to a local coin show, and the weekend before THAT (the 15th-16th) is a possibility, but I couldn't possibly afford it before then (especially if I'm going to buy a WDW set!). Do we have to do this in the summer? Perhaps Sept. would be better? Anyone else considering the trip, I'd love to hear your thoughts on these issues. BTW, I posted the concept to Kathy's message board. Perhaps I should post it in alt.disney.disneyland as well....hmmmm.... Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Preserving Dates (was Re: Disney World penny set) Date: 11 Jul 1997 02:47:03 -0700 > Big Al wrote to Jeff Dixon: > [snip] > >There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on > >the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new > >pennies. Just curious... Bob Fritsch wrote: > A trick I leared from the Master, Ray Dillard, is to paint the coin > before you send it through the rollers. It is necessary only to paint > the side on the smooth roller, usually the obverse with the date. All > details of the original coin are preserved although stretched out. It > works with dirty coins too, but not as nice. > > I usually use a wood-color or tan spray paint for copper coins and > silver paint for white coins. Apply one coat only, not too thin and not > too thick. Experience will tell you what is just right. > > With automatic machines, it is tricky to get the painted side correctly > oriented. I ran across one machine in Norfolk that no matter which way > I put in the coin, the painted side was always toward the design > roller. You can usually figure it out though and get it right most of > the time. Willy now writes: You are EXACTLY right, Bob! Albeit, a bit inspecific... Ray uses the exact same spry-stain as the late Frank Brazzell (Deft brand - as mentioned in my last reply to this topic). -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Cleaning elongate pennies with toothpaste Date: 11 Jul 1997 02:53:46 -0700 Mgmears@aol.com wrote: > > You mentioned using a pencil eraser to clean the obverse (or reverse, for > that matter) of a copper penny or elongated penny. To clean my elongate > pennies, I use a tiny dab of toothpaste and a toothbrush. Really! And > tartar-control toothpaste works best. (Ok, that last part was a joke.) > > Mark Mears > TEC #1972 Mark, That sounds very interesting... Thanks! The eraser thing is actually Ray Dillard's discovery. You may also wish to try Ketchup first, and then baking soda applied with the toothbrush. It produces an unbelievable shine!!! But do it in TWO steps--don't mix the ketchup with the baking soda (trust me, this is AWESOME). I actually do it with a rag, but I would have to think that a toothbrush would work just as well. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) pre 82 pennies Date: 11 Jul 1997 06:48:24 -0500 I just go to the bank and get about $10 worth of pennies, go through them and take back the rest and get more. Ususally, out of 1000 pennies I get 200-300. No need to buy pre82 rolls if you want to spend just a little time sorting them out. Janelle (Minnesota Flats) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) shining pennies Date: 11 Jul 1997 07:53:18 -0500 God Bless Martha Stewart. She finally gave me something useful but not what she intended. Use a shallow dish or pan. Cover it with pennies, pre 82 of course, and cover them with lemon juice then pour a thin layer of salt over it all. Wait a minute or two, flip the pennies over, cover with a little more salt if necessary, wait and guess what??? rince with water and shiny!!! Most of the time, no rubbing with toothbrush is necessary. Janelle (Minnesota Flats) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) SD Zoo Pennies + Quarter Date: 11 Jul 1997 09:44:14 -0700 Greetings, Here's the list for a full set of San Diego Zoo pennies + the Polar Bear Plunge Quarter: Janelle Jeff Dixon Chris Aahz ... <...> I'll get a couple of extra for new people to the list... bc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) pre 82 pennies Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:11:07 -0400 > > Janelle (Minnesota Flats) Hi Janelle... Is Minnesota Flats the pun I think it is? Very good. Ben Lavine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) Disney Ideas Date: 11 Jul 1997 15:22:53 -0700 Hi Everyone, I know someone in Disney Guest Relations and I am looking into what kinds of things we might be able to set up for a group visit. This might include a group rate for those needing passes, possible meeting with the folks that work with the Eurolink machines, etc. Can anyone get us into Club 33? I'll get some possible ideas and put them up here on the mailing list. One possible idea would be to meet at Beliles (I may have spelled this wrong) for breakfast before going into the park. It was started in 1955, the same year as Disneyland and they serve over-sized portions you won't believe! It is only a few blocks from the park... More info once I hear from Guest Relations... Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 11 Jul 1997 17:52:47 -0700 > Are Sundays as bad as Saturdays? Actually, I was just looking at > the calendar and the first weekend I'll be free (after giving myself > time to earn the spare cash for the trip) would be Labor Day > weekend. I assume it will be a mob scene (doesn't bother me much, I > hit the big rides during the parades 8-). The weekend before that > I'm commotted to a local coin show, and the weekend before THAT (the > 15th-16th) is a possibility, but I couldn't possibly afford it > before then (especially if I'm going to buy a WDW set!). Do we have > to do this in the summer? Perhaps Sept. would be better? september works great for me. i've got a birthday and a milion concerts for july and august. yeah, unfortunately, labor day weekend will be hell, but sunday is always better that saturday. sundays are the 'family' day, so around 6pm, the families start heading home, and the park empties out rather nicely. definitely post this in ADD. i'm sure there are others there that would be interested... -tink!!! -- 'you do know elvis is dead, right?' 'no he isn't. he just went home.'-MIB http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 11 Jul 1997 21:05:23 -0700 (PDT) re: Bert's comments on meeting spot Belile's (or whatever it's called sounds fine. I was wondering about how we were all going to meet up. A couple weeks back I went to Great America and was supposed to meet up with five and it was confusing to get everybody to be at the same place at the same time. And we all not only know what each other look like, but we know the park well! Meeting at a restaraunt works well. The first one there can get a table and others can just ask for 'The Penny Party' or some such. re: Bert's comments on 'special stuff' A meeting with a Eurolink rep would be AWESOME!!! Discounts are of course, always a bonus as well 8-) On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, tink!!! wrote: > september works great for me. i've got a birthday and a milion concerts > for july and august. yeah, unfortunately, labor day weekend will be > hell, but sunday is always better that saturday. sundays are the > 'family' day, so around 6pm, the families start heading home, and the > park empties out rather nicely. Okay, so we'll say mid-September....on a Sunday......how 'bout the 14th? There is a coin show in Long Beach that weekend as well, so anyone travelling some distance could attend the show on Saturday should they so desire. (I always like to wound two birds with one stone when possible 8-) > > definitely post this in ADD. i'm sure there are others there that would > be interested... > I will post to to a.d.d. tonight with a tentative date of Sept. 14th. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) TEC Membership Date: 11 Jul 1997 22:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! From my (very rough) estimate, about half of you reading this are TEC members, you can stop reading now. For those of you who are not TEC members, I cannot recommend them highly enough. Joining TEC was the first step in my collecting moving from a here and there kind of thing with a half dozen samples from my area, to a large collection containing issues from 27 of the 50 states and two foriegn countries. I;ve attempted to reproduce their membership flyer below. The application is there as well, so if you're interested you can just print it out and mail it in. If you have any questions about TEC feel free to either post them to the list for general comment or ask me directly via e-mail. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE ELONGATED COLLECTORS (TEC) Duesfor one calendar year membership in TEC are $10.00 General; $5.00 for a second membership at the same address and $5.00 for Youth (under 18). Foreign Membership $12.50 per year. Benefits of TEC membership include: * 4 issues of the TEC News each year. Each issue ranges from 12 to 20 pages featuring informative articles, notices of new issues, and more! Plus each issue contains a free elongated coin donated by a member or club. * You get to place a free classified ad in each issue of the TEC News. * You will receive an annual Membership Coin and a life-long TEC membership number. * If you write an article for the TEC News, you'll be awarded a special TEC News Award Coin for each article you write. In 1996 only 26 of these collectors items were awarded. * You can attend the annual meeting held in conjunction with the ANA Convention. * You also get the opportunity to purchase the limited edition TEC-ANA Convention badge, rolled on a U.S. clad or enameled silver quarter. * You get all of this and Much, MUCH MORE!!!!! ____________________________________________________________________ The Elongated Collectors (TEC) -- Application To apply, print this application and mail it (with dues) to: Howard C. Sharkey TEC Secretary 203 S. Gladiolus, Momence, IL 60954-1709 ____________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ THE ELONGATED COLLECTORS (TEC) APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP NAME ________________________________________________________________ ADDRESS _____________________________________________________________ CITY ___________________________________STATE _______ZIP ____________ Years Collecting _____ Specialty _____________________________________ Birthdate (Junior Members)____________________________________________ I agree that upon admittance to membership, I will abide by the Constitution and Bylaws of TEC and its Code of Ethics. If you do not want your address published in TEC News check here _____ DATE_______________ SIGNED____________________________________________ TYPE of MEMBERSHIP: GENERAL: _________ SECOND: ________ YOUTH: ______ ********************************************************************* FOR CLUB USE ONLY Proposed by: ___Chris_Aahz_#2062_____________________________________ Admitted to membership (DATE) _______________ TEC Number ____________ ********************************************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC Membership Date: 12 Jul 1997 09:17:52 -0700 Greetings All, I want to thank Aahz for posting the TEC Membership information. I joined TEC (TEC#2095) and have been enjoying all the newsletters, and the coins they have sent me. I encourage everyone to join (it is not expensive!) and support the TEC. There are many collectors that do not have access to email and the net, so being part of the TEC is another way to reach (and be reached by) these folks with the same love for smashed (elongated, squised, rolled, pressed) coins. Bert On 7/11/97 10:38 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > For those of you who are not TEC members, I cannot recommend them >highly enough. Joining TEC was the first step in my collecting moving >from a here and there kind of thing with a half dozen samples from my >area, to a large collection containing issues from 27 of the 50 states >and two foriegn countries. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Top Ten List Date: 12 Jul 1997 12:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! As I wander around the Bay Area sniffing the air for the scent of rolling machines I often stop in places that I'm positive should have machines, but don't. If you have experienced this as well, then perhaps this project is for you. Below is my Top Ten List of Places That Should Have Elongated Coins But Don't (as far as I know): 1) The Squished Penny Museum 2) The Trans-America Building 3) The Bay Bridge (there are old issues, but none current) 4) The White House 5) The Wooz on I-80 (It's a human maze) 6) Underwater World @ Pier 39 7) Ripley's Believe it or Not! (used to have one) 8) Airports (ALL of them!) 9) Capitol Buildings (ALL of them!) 10) The Elongated Coin Mailing List Your thoughts, input, personal lists more then welcome! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: (elongates) Top Ten List Date: 13 Jul 1997 11:25:00 PDT Below is my Top Ten List of Places That Should Have Elongated Coins But Don't (as far as I know): 1) The Squished Penny Museum 2) The Trans-America Building 3) The Bay Bridge (there are old issues, but none current) 4) The White House 5) The Wooz on I-80 (It's a human maze) 6) Underwater World @ Pier 39 7) Ripley's Believe it or Not! (used to have one) 8) Airports (ALL of them!) 9) Capitol Buildings (ALL of them!) 10) The Elongated Coin Mailing List Your thoughts, input, personal lists more then welcome! Peace, Aahz Thanks, Aahz. Like we don't have enough of a complex about our inadequacies already! Just for that, we'll make sure you're the last to get one <:) the Squished Penny Museum folk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Top Ten List Date: 13 Jul 1997 16:48:42 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Pete Morelewicz wrote: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks, Aahz. Like we don't have enough of a complex about our inadequacies > already! Just for that, we'll make sure you're the last to get one <:) > > the Squished Penny Museum folk I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Sorry!!! Please don't punish me oh Exalted Keeper of the Squished Penny...I'll be good from now on, I promise ;) On a serious note...I've been checking around on prices and Willy's got a GREAT deal for anyone who wants a custom coin rolled. By far the best prices. As soon as I scrape up some extra money for the list I intend to have him roll the list's. Of course, if donations were available.... 8-) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) CCE? Date: 13 Jul 1997 16:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Has anyone heard of the CCE? I found a reference to it on an older store card elongate I purchased. Also, COrey Wylde has been advertising in TEC News to purchase a CCE membership card. This has really got my curiosity piqued. I believe I heard/read somewhere that there was once an elongated coin club in California. Could this be it? Could it possibly still be in existence and just hiding from my prying eyes? Inquiring minds want to know! Any info is, of course, greatly appreciated. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roger Ingersoll Subject: Re: (elongates) Top Ten List Date: 14 Jul 1997 11:04:55 -0500 (CDT) I have been lurking for a couple of weeks now learning more about this hobby. I have been a very small collector of elongates for a while now. Perhaps someone could forward a list of sources of people who can create custom elongates. I have been thinking about doing some custom ones for a few charities, but with the passing of Frank I have not known of any other artist creating the dies for small groups. Who is Willy? I guess I need to join the society huh? Roger Ingersoll > On a serious note...I've been checking around on prices and > Willy's got a GREAT deal for anyone who wants a custom coin rolled. By > far the best prices. | rogeri@netcom.com |\ Dallas, TX 8*<%%%%%%%%%|+>-===================================================----- |/ Home of "Freemasonry on the Internet" | http://www.chrysalis.org/masonry/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Top Ten List Date: 14 Jul 1997 09:24:21 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Roger Ingersoll wrote: > Perhaps someone could forward a list of sources of people who can create > custom elongates. I have been thinking about doing some custom ones for I will post more info when I get home from work tonight, but here's a couple names to tide you over: Rocky Rockholt (RockyRockholt@msn.com) & Willy Massey (Massey@Clark.net) > > Who is Willy? Willy is William C. Massey. You can check out his Luck "E" Penny homepage at http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm Willy's a great guy and a quality roller. He's also on the list, so probably will reply himself to let you know any more details you need. > I guess I need to join the society huh? For $10 a year, I wouldn't say it's a 'must', but it's definetly worth far more. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 14 Jul 1997 13:37:00 PDT Is anyone attending the ANA Convention in New York later this month? The SPM will be lugging up our displays from D.C. and holding a reception to view our new exhibit "The Open Road: Touring America Today", featuring about 150 or so elongateds and related souvenirs from tourists stops around the U.S. The reception will take place in the evening during the convention at a space separate from the convention area (on Broadway to be exact). Which evening is still up in the air as we want to see which night would draw the most folks. So let me know...hope to see you there. Pete, Squished Penny Museum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 14 Jul 1997 17:22:29 -0700 Hi Pete (and everyone else), I'll be at the ANA! But only on Friday, Aug. 1st -- for the TEC meeting! I should be in N.Y. all day, but my ride leaves in the evening :( Hope to meet a few of you there. --Willy -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm Pete Morelewicz wrote: > > Is anyone attending the ANA Convention in New York later this month? The SPM > will be lugging up our displays from D.C. and holding a reception to view our > new exhibit "The Open Road: Touring America Today", featuring about 150 or so > elongateds and related souvenirs from tourists stops around the U.S. > > The reception will take place in the evening during the convention at a space > separate from the convention area (on Broadway to be exact). Which evening is > still up in the air as we want to see which night would draw the most folks. > So let me know...hope to see you there. > > Pete, > Squished Penny > Museum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:25:51 -0400 Pete Morelewicz wrote: > > Is anyone attending the ANA Convention in New York later this month? The SPM > will be lugging up our displays from D.C. and holding a reception to view our > new exhibit "The Open Road: Touring America Today", featuring about 150 or so > elongateds and related souvenirs from tourists stops around the U.S. > > The reception will take place in the evening during the convention at a space > separate from the convention area (on Broadway to be exact). Which evening is > still up in the air as we want to see which night would draw the most folks. > So let me know...hope to see you there. > > Pete, > Squished Penny > Museum And I also shall be there. I'm going to the TAMS banquet (thurs?) and the Saturday one, so that might leave Friday open (you know how time gets swallowed up at these things). Look forward to seeing you. Will you be hanging out at the TEC booth? Bob Fritsch rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Richards" Subject: (elongates) New Idea: FLASHPOINT Auction Date: 14 Jul 1997 22:34:11 -0400 Dear Listers, Paul Richards here. Back from two weeks chasing around the country ... it's good to be home. (By the way, the Internet Article is complete. I am in the process of getting a draft on the Web for your comments.) I would like to present an idea to the lists and get some opinions. The idea involves coin auctions, but it is not your typical, garden-variety auction. I call the new idea a FLASHPOINT auction. In a normal auction, the price starts low and goes up. The price keeps going up until one person is left standing. In a new FLASHPOINT auction, the price starts high and goes down. The price keeps going down until one person stands up to buy. Do you see how this would work? Say I have a coin for sale. Say the coin has a Red Book value of $100 and a Greysheet bid of $50. Usually, the coin would sell somewhere between Red Book and Greysheet. The question is "where?" In a FLASHPOINT auction, the coin is first offered to everyone at $100. If someone wants it, he or she buys it at the Red Book price of $100. If no one wants it at that price, the coin is offered to everyone a second time at $95. The process repeats until someone reaches his/her FLASHPOINT. At that time, the buyer stands up and gets the coin at the FLASHPOINT price. Neat, huh? Without the Internet, this idea is impractical. But now, with Internet technology, the idea is feasible. I ran this idea past Paul Gold of Teletrade and Roy Latham of Computer Graphics Systems Development Corporation. Both of these experts thought the idea was quite novel, but difficult to implement due to detailed problems with Web timing. If a coin cost $10,000, and milliseconds matter, there could be trouble. But, for coins in the "working man" class, the concept should be fine. So, what do you think of this hair-brained scheme? I am interested in your comments. Please e-mail to the list or to me directly: Paul Richards stat@iu.net. Since Kelly Anderson supports commercial transactions on his American Coin listserv, Stat-Matics will run a small FLASHPOINT auction there shortly. Here are the lots and their opening prices: lot SQ four rolls of 1979-D BU cents for elongates, start at $8 lot CB 1850 Large Cent, F-12 not over-dark, start at $16 lot AA Constantine AE Follis, London Mint, Sol reverse, VF/XF, start at $44 lot BD 1828 Half Cent 13 Stars, F-15, start at $48 lot DT 1938-D/S Buffalo, PCGS MS-65 bright, start at $125 lot BR 1861 Indian Cent, NGC MS-64, full CN color (nice), start at $325 Each day at supper time (8:00 or so in Florida) an e-mail message will be sent to the American Coin list with continually lower prices. To buy one of the six lots, reply via e-mail and specify the lot you want. The auction will continue until all coins are sold, or until I start losing money big time, whichever comes first . Full 10-day, any-reason return priviledges apply. Postage and handling $3. If this first experiment works well, Stat-Matics will establish a separate e-mailing list for those who wish to participate in future FLASHPOINTS. Thanks for your time and Happy collecting! Paul Richards stat@iu.net Stat-Matics http://www.cgsd.com/statmatics.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) New Idea: FLASHPOINT Auction Date: 14 Jul 1997 22:49:51 -0700 Questions: What if more than one person has the same "Flashpoint"? Who gets it then? What is the advantage of this system over the norm? What is the time-lapse between price droppings? --Willy Paul Richards wrote: > > Dear Listers, > > Paul Richards here. Back from two weeks chasing around the country ... > it's good to be home. (By the way, the Internet Article is complete. I am > in the process of getting a draft on the Web for your comments.) > > I would like to present an idea to the lists and get some opinions. The > idea involves coin auctions, but it is not your typical, garden-variety > auction. I call the new idea a FLASHPOINT auction. > > In a normal auction, the price starts low and goes up. The price keeps > going up until one person is left standing. In a new FLASHPOINT auction, > the price starts high and goes down. The price keeps going down until one > person stands up to buy. > > Do you see how this would work? Say I have a coin for sale. Say the coin > has a Red Book value of $100 and a Greysheet bid of $50. Usually, the coin > would sell somewhere between Red Book and Greysheet. The question is > "where?" > > In a FLASHPOINT auction, the coin is first offered to everyone at $100. If > someone wants it, he or she buys it at the Red Book price of $100. If no > one wants it at that price, the coin is offered to everyone a second time > at $95. The process repeats until someone reaches his/her FLASHPOINT. At > that time, the buyer stands up and gets the coin at the FLASHPOINT price. > Neat, huh? > > Without the Internet, this idea is impractical. But now, with Internet > technology, the idea is feasible. > > I ran this idea past Paul Gold of Teletrade and Roy Latham of Computer > Graphics Systems Development Corporation. Both of these experts thought > the idea was quite novel, but difficult to implement due to detailed > problems with Web timing. If a coin cost $10,000, and milliseconds matter, > there could be trouble. But, for coins in the "working man" class, the > concept should be fine. > > So, what do you think of this hair-brained scheme? I am interested in your > comments. Please e-mail to the list or to me directly: Paul Richards > stat@iu.net. > > Since Kelly Anderson supports commercial transactions on his American Coin > listserv, Stat-Matics will run a small FLASHPOINT auction there shortly. > Here are the lots and their opening prices: > > lot SQ four rolls of 1979-D BU cents for elongates, start at $8 > lot CB 1850 Large Cent, F-12 not over-dark, start at $16 > lot AA Constantine AE Follis, London Mint, Sol reverse, VF/XF, start at $44 > lot BD 1828 Half Cent 13 Stars, F-15, start at $48 > lot DT 1938-D/S Buffalo, PCGS MS-65 bright, start at $125 > lot BR 1861 Indian Cent, NGC MS-64, full CN color (nice), start at $325 > > Each day at supper time (8:00 or so in Florida) an e-mail message will be > sent to the American Coin list with continually lower prices. To buy one > of the six lots, reply via e-mail and specify the lot you want. > > The auction will continue until all coins are sold, or until I start losing > money big time, whichever comes first . > > Full 10-day, any-reason return priviledges apply. Postage and handling $3. > > If this first experiment works well, Stat-Matics will establish a separate > e-mailing list for those who wish to participate in future FLASHPOINTS. > > Thanks for your time and Happy collecting! > > Paul Richards stat@iu.net > Stat-Matics http://www.cgsd.com/statmatics.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Re: Lord's Prayer info request Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:04:20 -0700 (PDT) > This letter is a reply to your recent inquiry regarding the Lord's > Prayer > on elongated cents. Further information on the subject can be found in > "Encyclopedia of the Modern Elongate" by Angelo A. Rosato and in an article > appearing in the April-May-June 1991 issue of "TEC News" published by The > Elongated Collectors organization. Does anybody out there have these references? If so, could you possibly make photocopies of them for me? Please? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Lord's Prayer info request Date: 15 Jul 1997 00:23:44 -0700 Don't let Rosoto hear you asking for photocopies of his book (whole or in part)! He's VERY ANAL about that!!! --Willy Chris Aahz wrote: > > ....Does anybody out there have these references? If so, could you > possibly make photocopies of them for me? Please? > > Peace, > > Aahz > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Rosato's Encyclopedia Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:24:02 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Don't let Rosoto hear you asking for photocopies of his book (whole or > in part)! > He's VERY ANAL about that!!! Willy, Not surprising from the impression I've gotten from his articles and ads in TEC News, and the promo stuff he sends out. But, he's not here, so I'm not worried. 8-) As soon as I have a spare $129 I'm gonna buy his book. I just don't expect it to happen until the price goes to $175 and then I'll have to wait even longer. Okay, here's the simple way to get around copyright issues, although I'm sure Angelo would still complain, he would have no legal grounds: I am interested in Rosato's book, The Encylopedia of the Modern Elongated. If anyone has a copy of this book, could you possibly review it for me, especially the pages concerning the history of the Lord's Prayer on Elongated Coins. BTW, my personal favorite type of review includes heavy quoting so that I can get a feel for the authors style and depth of content. There, now it's legal. It is not a violation of copyright law to quote a text in review. Then again, it is not illegal to make copies of a text for personal use. So, if someone could let me borrow their photocopies of the aforementioned sections I will promptly return them. Peace, Aahz The copyright law fan. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:27:48 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Pete Morelewicz wrote: > The SPM > will be lugging up our displays from D.C. and holding a reception to view our > new exhibit "The Open Road: Touring America Today", featuring about 150 or so > elongateds and related souvenirs from tourists stops around the U.S. Pete, I hope all goes well. Now I'm even MORE sad that I can't go! Be sure to give us a report when you get back. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) New Idea: FLASHPOINT Auction Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:46:49 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Paul Richards wrote: > auction. I call the new idea a FLASHPOINT auction. Catchy name. > Do you see how this would work? I understand how it works, I don't understand the need for it. What is the benefit (and to whom) of using Flashpoint over the traditional auction format? > Say I have a coin for sale. Say the coin > has a Red Book value of $100 and a Greysheet bid of $50. Usually, the coin > would sell somewhere between Red Book and Greysheet. The question is > "where?" I don't accept this premise. I believe that it holds true in a standard one on one deal. But prices above 'book' are often realized in auctions. That's the primary benefit to the seller. On the flip side, the benefit to the buyer is that he/she/it can often find items well below 'sheet' price. > Without the Internet, this idea is impractical. But now, with Internet > technology, the idea is feasible. I really don't understand this statement. It seems far more practical to use this system in a live auction then an internet auction. Haven't you ever been at a live auction where the auctioneer starts the bidding at say $100, no one bids. He then drops the open to $90, etc. until either someone bids, he hits the reserve, or he just gives up. I have experienced this seceral times and don't see where it differs from Flashpoint. > the idea was quite novel, but difficult to implement due to detailed > problems with Web timing. If a coin cost $10,000, and milliseconds matter, > there could be trouble. But, for coins in the "working man" class, the > concept should be fine. This seems like an elitist attitude to me. I get just as upset when I lose a $20 item due to 'puter problems as anyone who loses a $10,000 item. What does value have to do with it? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ENTROPYM@aol.com Subject: (elongates) I need WDW quarters. Date: 15 Jul 1997 01:30:26 -0400 (EDT) Fellow smashed, squashed and pressed coin enthusiasts. Recently I traded a set of Disneyland Coins for some sets of Disney World 25th aniversary quarters. Just now I discovered that there is a 13th coin inside The Magic Kingdom that I don't have. All of the others are at the resorts. I would like to know if anyone would be able to pick up three of the 25th anniversary quarters with Mickey Mouse from the Magic Kingdom (not the Contemporary). Write me, we'll work something out. Thanks, Mickey M "Cinnamon toast and tacos, por favor" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) I need WDW quarters. Date: 15 Jul 1997 00:42:46 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 ENTROPYM@aol.com wrote: > 25th anniversary quarters with Mickey Mouse from the Magic Kingdom (not the > Contemporary). I need one of these too! I also have the tewlve from the resorts, but need this elusive 13th! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Rollers Date: 15 Jul 1997 01:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Below is my current list of rollers. I would like to make this list as complete as possible, so additions and/or corrections would be more than appreciated. My intent is to put this in a file dedicated to the list so that it can easily be retrieved by any who need it. As soon as I learn how to manage this, it will be done. I believe Bert is also including this information on his web page (The Smashed Coin Locator). Please post any additions/corrections to the mailing list. I will update the file and send it out as requested. Here is the list I have compiled so far: Rocky Rockholt E-Mail: RockyRockholt@msn.com 2678 Sumac Ridge White Bear Lake, MN 5510-5646 (612) 777-9000 Sig: RR stacked in border at left or top of coin (Long time roller, TEC Director) Luck E. Penny E-Mail: Massey@Clark.net P.O. Box 1511 Beltsville, MD 20704-1511 (401) 937-7732 Contact: William C. Massey (Willy) (Check out the Luck "E" Penny homepage at: http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm) Sig: WCM in border at top or left of coin Chicago Computer & Light, Inc. 5001 N. Lowell Ave. Chicago, IL 60630-2610 (773) 283-2749 FAX (773) 283-9972 Contact: Larry Feit Sig: CC&L in large letters at bottom of design (Be sure to ask him about the Coinvelope!) Ray Dillard P.O. Box 61 Fenton, MI 48430 Sig: Cursive RWD in border at top or left of coin (Rolls coins for just about every show he attends. Very active.) The information on the following is a couple years old, so may no longer be accurate: James Kilcoyne 5274 Linton Road Cadiz, KY 42211 (502) 924-5354 Sig: JK stacked in border at left or bottom of coin (He kinda 'vanished' on me a couple months back) Don A. Wilkinson 5700 Flagler St. Metairie, LA 70003 Sig: DAW just within border near bottom of coin (Not sure if he still rolls) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Roger Ingersoll wrote: > I have been lurking for a couple of weeks now learning more about this > hobby. I have been a very small collector of elongates for a while now. > Perhaps someone could forward a list of sources of people who can create > custom elongates. I have been thinking about doing some custom ones for > a few charities, but with the passing of Frank I have not known of any > other artist creating the dies for small groups. > > Who is Willy? I guess I need to join the society huh? > > Roger Ingersoll > > > > On a serious note...I've been checking around on prices and > > Willy's got a GREAT deal for anyone who wants a custom coin rolled. By > > far the best prices. > > > > > > | rogeri@netcom.com > |\ Dallas, TX > 8*<%%%%%%%%%|+>-===================================================----- > |/ Home of "Freemasonry on the Internet" > | http://www.chrysalis.org/masonry/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 15 Jul 1997 08:20:00 PDT Okay, so it looks like Friday night. I will make plans to secure the space for then. Also, can either of you (Bob or Willy) send an itinerary of elongated-related happenings at the convention? It would be helpful to us first-timers. (And Willy, if you can't make it to the viewing on Friday, perhaps we can do it before or after the convention.) Pete ------------------------ And I also shall be there. I'm going to the TAMS banquet (thurs?) and the Saturday one, so that might leave Friday open (you know how time gets swallowed up at these things). Look forward to seeing you. Will you be hanging out at the TEC booth? Bob Fritsch rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------- Hi Pete (and everyone else), I'll be at the ANA! But only on Friday, Aug. 1st -- for the TEC meeting! --Willy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Rollers--correction Date: 15 Jul 1997 14:02:55 -0700 Hi Gang, Just for the record: My area code is (301) --Willy -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm Chris Aahz wrote: > > Greetings & Salutations! > > Below is my current list of rollers. I would like to make this > list as complete as possible, so additions and/or corrections would be > more than appreciated. My intent is to put this in a file dedicated > to the list so that it can easily be retrieved by any who need it. As > soon as I learn how to manage this, it will be done. I believe Bert is > also including this information on his web page (The Smashed Coin Locator). > Please post any additions/corrections to the mailing list. I will update > the file and send it out as requested. > > Here is the list I have compiled so far: > > Rocky Rockholt E-Mail: RockyRockholt@msn.com > 2678 Sumac Ridge > White Bear Lake, MN 5510-5646 > (612) 777-9000 > Sig: RR stacked in border at left or top of coin > (Long time roller, TEC Director) > > Luck E. Penny E-Mail: Massey@Clark.net > P.O. Box 1511 > Beltsville, MD 20704-1511 > (401) 937-7732 > Contact: William C. Massey (Willy) > (Check out the Luck "E" Penny homepage at: > http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm) > Sig: WCM in border at top or left of coin > > Chicago Computer & Light, Inc. > 5001 N. Lowell Ave. > Chicago, IL 60630-2610 > (773) 283-2749 > FAX (773) 283-9972 > Contact: Larry Feit > Sig: CC&L in large letters at bottom of design > (Be sure to ask him about the Coinvelope!) > > Ray Dillard > P.O. Box 61 > Fenton, MI 48430 > Sig: Cursive RWD in border at top or left of coin > (Rolls coins for just about every show he attends. Very active.) > > The information on the following is a couple years old, so may no longer > be accurate: > > James Kilcoyne > 5274 Linton Road > Cadiz, KY 42211 > (502) 924-5354 > Sig: JK stacked in border at left or bottom of coin > (He kinda 'vanished' on me a couple months back) > > Don A. Wilkinson > 5700 Flagler St. > Metairie, LA 70003 > Sig: DAW just within border near bottom of coin > (Not sure if he still rolls) > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist > The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 > List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) > "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Roger Ingersoll wrote: > > > I have been lurking for a couple of weeks now learning more about this > > hobby. I have been a very small collector of elongates for a while now. > > Perhaps someone could forward a list of sources of people who can create > > custom elongates. I have been thinking about doing some custom ones for > > a few charities, but with the passing of Frank I have not known of any > > other artist creating the dies for small groups. > > > > Who is Willy? I guess I need to join the society huh? > > > > Roger Ingersoll > > > > > > > On a serious note...I've been checking around on prices and > > > Willy's got a GREAT deal for anyone who wants a custom coin rolled. By > > > far the best prices. > > > > > > > > > > > > | rogeri@netcom.com > > |\ Dallas, TX > > 8*<%%%%%%%%%|+>-===================================================----- > > |/ Home of "Freemasonry on the Internet" > > | http://www.chrysalis.org/masonry/ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Richards" Subject: (elongates) Chinese/Dutch Auction Date: 16 Jul 1997 07:58:04 -0400 Boy, you guys sure let me have it on my FLASHPOINT idea. Two out of three of your comments were negative ... some VERY negative. I also got one message from the spam patrol. Anyway, for the one-third of you who liked the idea, I still plan on trying it out on the ACoin list with the lots presented previously. I will retain the name FLASHPOINT, since the "Dutch" and "Chinese" names are derogatory. Also, as Chris Aahz points out, a regular auction generally favors the seller, especially in a bidding war. A flashpoint auction, which operates in reverse, should favor the buyer. Paul Richards stat@iu.net Stat-Matics http://www.cgsd.com/statmatics.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) rolls of uncirculated Lincoln pennies Date: 16 Jul 1997 08:10:29 -0500 I place I buy regular pennies from has a list inside its current booklet that has pre82 roll of pennies for sale. I mention this especially for those who are in on this idea of getting a full set of pennies from Big Al from Disney World. I ordered 5 rolls and am having them sent directly to Pete so we can get going on this order before Big Al gets too wise and ups his price on us. Here is a list of the rolls (pre82) that are available and the price per roll 1942s 140 1943s 75 1947s 18.50 1948s 20 1949s 45 1954 7.75 1958D 3.25 1960 1.50 1961 1.50 1962 1.50 1963 1.50 1965 1.50 1966 2.25 1967 1.75 1968D 1.50 1969D 1.50 1969s 2.50 1970D 1.95 1970s 2.25 1971 6.95 1971D 3.50 1972 1.95 1972D 1.95 1973 1.50 1973D 1.25 (my choice) 1973s 2 1974 1.50 1974D 1.50 1975 1.75 1975D 1.75 1976 1.75 1976D 2.75 1977 2 1979D 1.50 1980D 1.50 1981 1.50 1981D 1.25 (another choice for the price) 1982D copper 1.75 The address of the place is Tipsico Coin 2141 Broadway P.O. Box 1128 North Bend-on-Coos Bay, Oregon 97459 1-541-756-7111 I have done business with them for several years. The shipping for $10 to $50 is $2.95 (minimum order is $10) and having mine sent directly to Pete. I really want to get this done so Big Al doesn't wise up. Janelle (Minnesota Flats) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) rolls of uncirculated Lincoln pennies Date: 16 Jul 1997 09:39:12 -0400 You mean Jeff, right? - Jeff At 08:10 AM 7/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >I place I buy regular pennies from has a list inside its current booklet >that has pre82 roll of pennies for sale. I mention this especially for >those who are in on this idea of getting a full set of pennies from Big >Al from Disney World. I ordered 5 rolls and am having them sent >directly to Pete so we can get going on this order before Big Al gets >too wise and ups his price on us. > >Here is a list of the rolls (pre82) that are available and the price per >roll [snip] >Janelle (Minnesota Flats) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) Jeff Date: 16 Jul 1997 09:13:33 -0500 I SENT THE ROLLS TO JEFF!!!! SORRY!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Jeff Date: 16 Jul 1997 10:30:25 -0400 No biggie. I just didn't want Pete to get a bunch of pennies - unless he likes to get random packs of pre-rolled pennies in the mail. :) - Jeff At 09:13 AM 7/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >I SENT THE ROLLS TO JEFF!!!! SORRY!!!! > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: Re: (elongates) rolls of uncirculated Li Date: 16 Jul 1997 13:59:00 PDT Ooops. I didn't read the other messages before sending mine. Sorry Bert. But hey, if you get a bunch of rolls in the mail, too, you hafta split the profit with me, okay? Pete You mean Jeff, right? - Jeff At 08:10 AM 7/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >I place I buy regular pennies from has a list inside its current booklet >that has pre82 roll of pennies for sale. I mention this especially for >those who are in on this idea of getting a full set of pennies from Big >Al from Disney World. I ordered 5 rolls and am having them sent >directly to Pete so we can get going on this order before Big Al gets >too wise and ups his price on us. > >Here is a list of the rolls (pre82) that are available and the price per >roll [snip] >Janelle (Minnesota Flats) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: (elongates) rolls of uncirculated Lincol Date: 16 Jul 1997 13:54:00 PDT Since I haven't seen any other Petes on the elongate list, is the Pete being referred to me? I hope not. Just in case though, the WDW crew should not send their rolls to Pete in D.C. I believe Bert is the point man for that, no? -Pete _________________________ I ordered 5 rolls and am having them sent directly to Pete so we can get going on this order before Big Al gets too wise and ups his price on us. having mine sent directly to Pete. I really want to get this done so Big Al doesn't wise up. Janelle (Minnesota Flats) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Rollers Date: 16 Jul 1997 21:44:53 -0400 > Don A. Wilkinson > 5700 Flagler St. > Metairie, LA 70003 > Sig: DAW just within border near bottom of coin > (Not sure if he still rolls) Don has been very sick the past few years. Saw him at ANA Detroit 94 but not at Denver 96. He is a super genteleman who has the passion for this branch of the hobby. He always used to drift into the TEC Booth with the line, "Is this where they make them squashed pennies?" [done is a Southern drawl]. Bob Fritsch ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 16 Jul 1997 22:10:45 -0400 Pete Morelewicz wrote: > > Okay, so it looks like Friday night. I will make plans to secure the space > for then. Also, can either of you (Bob or Willy) send an itinerary of > elongated-related happenings at the convention? It would be helpful to us > first-timers. ONGOING: TEC Booth, starring Ray Dillard's machine and a ton of fun. If you have time stop by and help Ray run the booth. It's the funnest hours you will have at any ANA. FRI 1 AUG 97 8AM: TEC Board Meeting. Interesting because it shows how the club is run and how decisions are made. SAME 9AM: TEC Membership Meeting: Not to be missed. TEC is a great group and the meeting proves it. Find out for yourself. Check the Convention issues of *Numismatic News* and *Coin World* before you arrive. Find all the dealers who offer freebies (elongates especially) and note their table numbers. Do a fast cruise of the bourse finding these tables and scoop up the goodies. Keep an eye out for unadvertised give-aways. One thing I like to do is to go through the "Mint Mile" which features mints from around the world (somewhere around 26 in Denver, maybe more this year). Get their free coin (purchase of a "passport" is required at the ANA Money Market booth) then go to the TEC booth and squash them with the show theme. Don't forget to paint them first; Ray always has a can of spray paint handy. BEWARE that many countries consider this activity illegal so don't tell them. Afterwards, go back to the Mint Mile with your empty passport and fill it. See you in New York! Bob Fritsch rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Rollers Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:15:29 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote: > Don has been very sick the past few years. Saw him at ANA Detroit 94 > but not at Denver 96. This is very sad. It seems we are quickly losing many of the people who really mad elongates a viable colecting category. I can only hope there are people to follow in their footsteps. I know no one will be able to fill their shoes. I will remove Don from my list until I hear otherwise. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:23:02 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote: > One thing I like to do is to go through the "Mint Mile" which features > Mile with your empty passport and fill it. > This is an awesome idea!! I don't suppose anyone could find the time to make up one of these sets for me? I'll give generous trade credit for the coins and even pay for your passport! > See you in New York! This is driving me crazy! The more I hear about the show the more I want to go. It's a good thing I don't have a credit card, or I'd probably just say "To Hell with it" and make the trip, putting myself in a world of financial hurt. I get the feeling that with the mention of freebies, this world coin set idea, and the fact that the whole thing will be full of dealers anyway, I'm gonna need to seriously boost up my trade list before the first week of August! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Disneyland Meet Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Okay, it's been several days without mention and we've got a few new subscribers, so I'm bringing it up again. (Okay, I'm just bringing it up again because I'm REALLy excited about it, but anywayz...) The Elongated Coin Mailing List will be having its first ever meet/trade session at Disneyland on Sunday, September 7th (tentative date). The plan is very loose at the moment, but we're hoping to meet at a nearby restaraunt in the morning for breakfast, spend the day in the park enjoying ourselves and collecting Disney elongate sets, possibly meet with someone who works on the Eurolink machines so we can learn more about the machines that do all the hard work for our hobby, and at some point in all this, trade elongates! Of course, the biggest highlight (for me at least) is getting to meet fellow collectors and put faces to some of the names on the list. I will be driving down from the San Francisco Bay Area, and intend to collect elongates along the way. So, who's interested? If the dates a problem, let us know, we can work on it. If the cost of admission is a problem, we're working on getting discount passes. If the problem is that it just doesn't sound like fun spending a day at Disneyland with fellow collectors, then I think you may be subscribed to the wrong list ;) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) WDW sets Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! What's the status oon the mas WDW set purchase? How many people do we have and what's the current price? Is anyone else interested, or are we ready to get this thing moving? Haven't heard in a while, so I'm just asking. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Meet Date: 16 Jul 1997 23:47:04 -0700 greetings all!!! i have to admit it-i'm a premium annual passport snob... but the good news is-because of this, i got a postcard in the mail today stating that with my card, i can take 4 people into the park for just $26 each!!! this deal they're offering is gonna last til september 30th, just in time for the munch (sorry, i meant 'meet'. it's a rec.arts.bodyarts thing;>) so, if the discounts are more than the $26, or if some folks make an impromptu showing and need a cheaper ticket... well, anyways, basically, i'm just excited!!! can't wait to meet everyone!!! -nikki ps-next weekend, i'll be heading to vegas for my bday, and if the machine is still there, i'm gonna pick up a couple more squishies from the 'barstow station' (the halfway point between el lay and las vegas), so let me know if anyone is interested. also, if i find any machines in vegas...same deal, i'll try to pick up a couple extras... -- "There's still a part of me that's 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Meet Date: 16 Jul 1997 23:53:30 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, tink!!! wrote: > i have to admit it-i'm a premium annual passport snob... but the good > news is-because of this, i got a postcard in the mail today stating that > with my card, i can take 4 people into the park for just $26 each!!! Very cool. That's another 20 elongates I can afford to pick up 8-) > ps-next weekend, i'll be heading to vegas for my bday, and if the Okay, I'm jealous. Of course, I got a week in Vegas for my 21st birthday, but that doesn't mean anyone else should get to go without me! > machine is still there, i'm gonna pick up a couple more squishies from > the 'barstow station' (the halfway point between el lay and las vegas), I have many fond memories of Barstow station, but was unaware of their machine. Sign me up for one! > so let me know if anyone is interested. also, if i find any machines in > vegas...same deal, i'll try to pick up a couple extras... Well, I just checked out both Willy's Hitchiker's Guide and Bert Smashed Coin Locator and they're both pretty slim for Vegas. Over the last two years or so I have heard reports of: 3 different machines in Excalibur, one in the Rio, several (including quarters!) in Circus Circus, and one in the Luxor (is that the right name? The big black pyramid). I haven't heard of anyone checking out the Downtown casinos, but they seem like a natural as they already sell tourist kitsch. Have fun! And don't forget to report any machine finds (wether you pick up trade stock or not) to the list so Bert and Willy can update their pages. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 17 Jul 1997 06:14:39 -0700 Hi Gang! In the following message, Bob (bless his heart) attempted to describe the fun and excitement of attending an ANA convention as an elongated coin enthusiast... Let me just say that Bob was correct in his assessment, although a bit reserved. IT'S A TOTAL BLAST!!!!! --Willy :) Bob Fritsch wrote: > ONGOING: TEC Booth, starring Ray Dillard's machine and a ton of fun. > If you have time stop by and help Ray run the booth. It's the funnest > hours you will have at any ANA. > > FRI 1 AUG 97 8AM: TEC Board Meeting. Interesting because it shows how > the club is run and how decisions are made. > > SAME 9AM: TEC Membership Meeting: Not to be missed. TEC is a great > group and the meeting proves it. Find out for yourself. > > Check the Convention issues of *Numismatic News* and *Coin World* before > you arrive. Find all the dealers who offer freebies (elongates > especially) and note their table numbers. Do a fast cruise of the > bourse finding these tables and scoop up the goodies. Keep an eye out > for unadvertised give-aways. > > One thing I like to do is to go through the "Mint Mile" which features > mints from around the world (somewhere around 26 in Denver, maybe more > this year). Get their free coin (purchase of a "passport" is required > at the ANA Money Market booth) then go to the TEC booth and squash them > with the show theme. Don't forget to paint them first; Ray always has a > can of spray paint handy. BEWARE that many countries consider this > activity illegal so don't tell them. Afterwards, go back to the Mint > Mile with your empty passport and fill it. > > See you in New York! > > Bob Fritsch > rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: (elongates) Don Wilkinson Needs Us!!!! Date: 17 Jul 1997 06:39:03 -0700 In reply to the following message about Don Wilkinson TEC #1079: For those of you who don't know Don... Know This. Don is one of the most generous coin rollers to ever squish a penny! He has done MUCH for TEC and humanity alike throughout the years. Don has even suffered the greatest loss of all-time because of elongated coins -- Several years ago, while on an ANA trip to (possibly from) Chicago, Don lost his wife, when their van ran off the road. Their rolling machine was hurled into Don's wife, leaving her dead! Even after that horrible accident, which left Don in a wheelchair, Don continued to roll coins and give thousands of them away, just to see the smiles of the recipients. Don should NEVER be forgotten! Especially now that he needs a little pick-me-up!!! So I say: If you happen to have an extra "cheering-up" elongated coin -- Make his day by sending it to him!!! Don Wilkinson TEC#1079 5700 Flagler Street Metaire, LA 70003 --Willy Chris Aahz wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote: > > > Don has been very sick the past few years. Saw him at ANA Detroit 94 > > but not at Denver 96. > > This is very sad. It seems we are quickly losing many of the > people who really mad elongates a viable colecting category. I can only > hope there are people to follow in their footsteps. I know no one will > be able to fill their shoes. > > I will remove Don from my list until I hear otherwise. > > Peace, > > Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 17 Jul 1997 09:04:42 -0400 When is the Mass convention again? I thought it was around the same time. I have a wedding to go to during the NY ANA convention. But, if someone could pick up a set for me, I'll pay them back! - Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) Los Vegas pennies Date: 17 Jul 1997 09:34:58 -0400 Hi Nikki, Can you pick me up one from Barstow Station? I have only a couple from Vegas - at the Excalibur. Any others would be appreciated! :) Thanks, - Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: Fwd: (elongates) Los Vegas pennies Date: 17 Jul 1997 08:46:15 -0700 Hi Nikki, I'd love to get descriptions of the machines, their pennies/quarters, and locations from Barstow and Las Vegas. The coins would also be wonderful, and I will trade for things I have. Bert >---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- >Date: 07/17 6:34 AM >Received: 07/17 6:43 AM >From: Jeff Dixon, jeffd@kurzweil.com >Reply-To: Mailing List Penny, elongates@mail.xmission.com >To: elongates@xmission.com > >Hi Nikki, >Can you pick me up one from Barstow Station? I have only a couple from >Vegas - at the Excalibur. >Any others would be appreciated! :) > >Thanks, > >- Jeff > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com >Software Engineer >Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com >411 Waverley Oaks Road >Waltham, MA 02154 > > > >----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Meet Date: 17 Jul 1997 09:09:04 -0700 Greetings Everyone, I too am a Premium Holder and L O V E being at the Happiest Place On Earth (cause it has all those Eurolink machines!). I hope you will get the word out about the Disneyland meeting, even to friends that may not know about collecting, but are Disney/Land fans... Visiting Disneyland can get into many new levels, even for us Premium Pass Holders. There are Hidden Mickeys (found elsewhere on the net), Disneyland Secrets (also found on other parts of the net), and of course --> Pennies, Nickels and Quarters smashed into new designs. Come for a couple of hours or a day. We're gonna have fun! Bert > >---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- >Date: 07/16 11:47 PM >Received: 07/16 11:52 PM >From: tink!!!, dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net >Reply-To: Mailing List Penny, elongates@mail.xmission.com >To: Mailing List Penny, elongates@mail.xmission.com > >greetings all!!! > >i have to admit it-i'm a premium annual passport snob... but the good >news is-because of this, i got a postcard in the mail today stating that >with my card, i can take 4 people into the park for just $26 each!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Meet Date: 17 Jul 1997 09:15:31 -0700 Pete (Squished Penny Museum), Do you have some LOST Wages locations for Nikki? I know there are some quarter machines there, and would love to get the locations... Thanks bc >> so let me know if anyone is interested. also, if i find any machines in >> vegas...same deal, i'll try to pick up a couple extras... > > Well, I just checked out both Willy's Hitchiker's Guide and Bert >Smashed Coin Locator and they're both pretty slim for Vegas. Over the >last two years or so I have heard reports of: 3 different machines in >Excalibur, one in the Rio, several (including quarters!) in Circus >Circus, and one in the Luxor (is that the right name? The big black >pyramid). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: Re: (elongates) Lost Wages Date: 17 Jul 1997 13:26:00 PDT ps-next weekend, i'll be heading to vegas for my bday, and if the machine is still there, i'm gonna pick up a couple more squishies from the 'barstow station' (the halfway point between el lay and las vegas), so let me know if anyone is interested. also, if i find any machines in vegas...same deal, i'll try to pick up a couple extras... --------- Nikki- I have discovered 4 machines in Vegas: Circus Circus: penny machine just inside entrance of Grand Slam Canyon Excalibur: one machine somewhere just off the casino floor (can't recall the exact location) Stratoshere: at least 2 machines on observation deck (at least three distict designs) Happy hunting. -Pete P.S. While you're there, play the change machines. You can't lose. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 17 Jul 1997 17:29:03 -0700 Both the ANA and TEC elongated sets will be available thru the TEC Newsletter, for anyone that can't make the big show. Jeff Dixon wrote: > > When is the Mass convention again? I thought it was around the same time. > I have a wedding to go to during the NY ANA convention. But, if someone > could pick up a set for me, I'll pay them back! > > - Jeff > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com > Software Engineer > Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com > 411 Waverley Oaks Road > Waltham, MA 02154 -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Rollers Date: 17 Jul 1997 21:14:18 -0400 Chris Aahz wrote: > I will remove Don from my list until I hear otherwise. > I would tend to leave him on because I think he still rolls but not very much. Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 17 Jul 1997 21:26:25 -0400 Jeff Dixon wrote: > > When is the Mass convention again? I thought it was around the same time. The NENA Convention is 22-23 August in Marlborough, MA. Bob Fritsch President, NENA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Counterstamping Date: 17 Jul 1997 21:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Some time ago someone (sorry I don't remember who) asked about methods for counterstamping coins. Several ideas were presented. I am curious to know what became of the situation. Did you find what you were looking for? How difficult was the search? Costs? On a similar note: Has anyone ever counterstamped an elongate? Elongated a counterstamped coin? Inquiring minds want to know! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: (elongates) Let's Promote TEC Date: 18 Jul 1997 00:26:56 -0700 Anyone interested in earning a VERY limited edition elongated nicked, issued by TEC??? TEC annually rewards those who go out of their way to promote TEC and elongated coins in general... With a special "TEC MERIT AWARD" elongated nickel -- They are very nice! You don't need to produce elongateds to earn one either... One easy way to earn such a coin is to bring in a bunch of new members to TEC. Here's an easy way to do this: Place TEC membership applications on top of the "vending" type of machines that we all know and love (with permission of the location's management, of course). Make sure that you sign YOUR name (with TEC #) on the bottom of the application where it reads: TEC SPONSOR. If necessary, Howard Sharkey (the TEC Secretary) has TEC applications that are setup four to a sheet, and would gladly send you some so that you may make as many copies as you like. It's hard for me to believe that most of the rolling machines out there make no reference to TEC. So, it's up to us to keep bringing in new blood! -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Let's Promote TEC Date: 17 Jul 1997 21:27:20 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Place TEC membership applications on top of the "vending" type of > machines that we all know and love (with permission of the location's > management, of course). Make sure that you sign YOUR name (with TEC #) > on the bottom of the application where it reads: TEC SPONSOR. > > If necessary, Howard Sharkey (the TEC Secretary) has TEC applications > that are setup four to a sheet, and would gladly send you some so that > you may make as many copies as you like. This is another wonderful idea!! I talk up TEC whenever possible, but know that many, many people out there regularly collect at machines and have NO idea that anyone else has an interest in these items. Other then camping next to a machine 24/7 this is the best idea I've heard yet for bringing fresh people into TEC. > It's hard for me to believe > that most of the rolling machines out there make no reference to TEC. Actually, this doesn't really surprise me. I have written to Tom DuBois (President of The San Francisco Penny Machine Company) several times with questions, and all I get is: "we don't give company information to non-employees". As for Eurolink, several e-mails and two letters have gone unanswered in the last two years 8-(. It seems to me that these companies really don't grasp the concept of a consumer base for their product. They seem unable to break out of the "impulse buyer" product mindset. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Counterstamping Date: 18 Jul 1997 00:37:40 -0700 Dear Chris (and curious others), I counterstamp numbers on quarters prior to rolling them when producing my serial numbered elongated quarter key-fobs (for my key retrieval service). The numbers get stretched and remain incuse... looks pretty cool (if I do say so myself). I have also rolled a few cents that had "I love You" (with a heart) counterstamped in front of Lincoln's depiction -- they too came out very nicely. However, I have had no desire to counterstamp an elongated, after the fact. Hope this answers your question. --Willy TEC 1857 Chris Aahz wrote: > ... On a similar note: Has anyone ever counterstamped an elongate? > Elongated a counterstamped coin? Inquiring minds want to know! > > Peace, > > Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Machine in Pismo Beach Date: 17 Jul 1997 22:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! I've got another machine to report to the location keepers. I recently purchased a lot of elongates at eBay from Mart Wilburn and he was kind enough to include a bonus elongate. My "bonus" was a coin from Pismo Beach, CA. It is vertical with an open clam pictured in the center and "Happy As A Clam" curving around the top, and "In Pismo Beach" curving around the bottom. It's got the Eurolink 'e' in the border at the top. When I inquired about the location of the machine, Mart replied: "My wife picked that one up at the small shopping mall near the pier in Pismo Beach, CA. She didn't say what the name of the mall was, other than it was at the pier." Now you know all that I do. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Foreign Language Fluency Date: 18 Jul 1997 00:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! I have been working on my new cataloging system for Lord's Prayer elongates and have run across a small problem: I only speak English. Any chance we've got people on here that are fluent in Spanish, French or Latin? I need literal translations of several different LPs in these languages in order to properly categorize them. HELP!! Responses off the list would be preferred as I doubt fluency is of major interest to the majority of subscribers. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ENTROPYM@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Meet Date: 18 Jul 1997 03:16:19 -0400 (EDT) To those going to Disneyland: Be sure to pick-up the newest coins, the Hercules set (what did you expect?) They are three quarter machines featuring Hercules, Meg and Pegasus. Their last known location ws the Penny Arcade, home of the no apparent purpose taffy machine. Note also that the Pieces of eight shop has reopened and the Pirates penny is back. If anyone runs across the Splash Mountain penny. please squoooosh me a couple, it has been missing for some time. Mickey M Patina green with envy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 18 Jul 1997 10:12:19 -0400 Cool. Thanks! At 05:29 PM 7/17/97 -0700, you wrote: >Both the ANA and TEC elongated sets will be available thru the TEC >Newsletter, for anyone that can't make the big show. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Meet Date: 18 Jul 1997 10:40:46 -0400 Oooh oooh ooh! Can someone press me the Hercules set. I'm still missing the Splash Mountain penny too (I think). - Jeff At 03:16 AM 7/18/97 -0400, you wrote: >To those going to Disneyland: >Be sure to pick-up the newest coins, the Hercules set (what did you expect?) >They are three quarter machines featuring Hercules, Meg and Pegasus. >Their last known location ws the Penny Arcade, home of the no apparent >purpose taffy machine. >Note also that the Pieces of eight shop has reopened and the Pirates penny is >back. >If anyone runs across the Splash Mountain penny. please squoooosh me a >couple, it has been missing for some time. > >Mickey M >Patina green with envy. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dmcdonal@tvsw.org (David McDonald) Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 18 Jul 1997 14:47:34 -0500 >Cool. Thanks! >At 05:29 PM 7/17/97 -0700, you wrote: >>Both the ANA and TEC elongated sets will be available thru the TEC >>Newsletter, for anyone that can't make the big show. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com >Software Engineer >Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com >411 Waverley Oaks Road >Waltham, MA 02154 How does one get ahold of the TEC newsletter? David E. McDonald 451 East Sanborn Street Winona, MN 55987-4047 . dmcdonal@tvsw.org , , `\`\ /'/' `\`\ /'/' `\`\ ............. /'/' ..,;;;;`\`\'''''''''''/'/';;;,.. .:'' `\`\_ _/'/' ``;. :::. `(_) (_)' ,;;: n:.``;;;,.... ....,;;;'',:: :\ ``;;;;. ````::::::::'''''.n;;;'' : : \ ```::n::::::::::'''/ \ : : \ If a man does not keep pace : : \with his companions, perhaps : : \ it is because he hears a \ : : \ different drummer. \ /; ::. \-/Henry David Thoreau v;: `:.``:::v.... \ / ....;;;''.;' ``:::... ```::::::v:''' ...;;;'' ````::::::::::'''' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Richards" Subject: (elongates) Internet and Coin Collecting Article Date: 18 Jul 1997 17:26:01 -0400 Dear listers, A draft of an article on the Internet and Coin Collecting is ready for your review. The article is designed to encourage non-computing collectors to get their feet wet in cyberspace. It covers the WWW, News Groups, E-mail and List Servers, with emphasis on the coins list, the acoins list, the numism-l list, the elongates list and the Coinmasters club. There are four graphic figures. I am very interested in hearing your critique of the material. After a week or so of review and refinement, I plan to send a manuscript to Mr. Ed Reiter of COINage magazine for his perusal. Find the article by starting at the Stat-Matics home page http://www.statmatics.com/ or go directly there at http://www.statmatics.com/sm_art01.htm My thanks go to all those who have contributed so far. These people are: Harry Bass hwbass@hbrf.org Andrew Bennett andybennet@compuserve.com Bill Thayer petworth@suba.com David Garstang garstang@electriciti.com Don Hebert dhebert@sprynet.com Goeffrey Bard gbard@clientele.com Jay King jayking@ricochet.net Jim Mason mason_j@gse.utah.edu John Darling darling@jeffnet.org Kelly Anderson kelly@acoin.com Ken Milenko magicken@baynet.net Kevin Barry kbarry@ancients.cnchost.com Mathiew S. Boutruche boutruc@ibm.net Michael Berkman mberkman@msn.com Michael Feyms@aol.com Paul Gold paulg@teletrade.com Pete Bishal danutt@cntn.net Peter Kraneveld peterk@mail.club-internet.fr Roger Thomas thomas5@wave-net.net Simcha Kuritzky simcha_kuritzky@mail.amsinc.com Steve Carr scarr@gvi.net Stuart Segan stuart_segan@orangemicro.com Paul Landsberg paws@vlsi.columbia.edu Jim Paul cameocoins@zianet.com John Bordner jwb209@epix.net Chris Aahz aahz@svpal.org Gary Wagnon Sr. garysddc@tcoast.4ez.com Aram Haroutunian bustpoet@ix.netcom.com Thanks again, and all the best to you, Paul Richards stat@iu.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ENTROPYM@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Let's Promote TEC Date: 18 Jul 1997 21:38:30 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 7/19/97 4:52:18 AM , you write: << This is another wonderful idea!! I talk up TEC whenever possible, but know that many, many people out there regularly collect at machines and have NO idea that anyone else has an interest in these items. Other then camping next to a machine 24/7 this is the best idea I've heard yet for bringing fresh people into TEC. >> Aahz has the right idea, I just sent in my $10 so I can also have a cool TEC number. I was one of those people to who he refered. I collected all of the Disneyland pennies for fun one trip. Then I got the whole Paramount's Great America set when I was there. This was just on a whim. I had no idea that there was actually an entire smashed/pressed/elongated penny collector's infrastructure. I thought that my collection was a little on the eccentric side until I found out that there was a whole bunch more ...er...eccentrics out there. Frankly, you people scare me. :) Mickey M ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Website is up! (fwd) Date: 18 Jul 1997 19:30:16 -0700 (PDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Chris, My Disneyland coin guide website is up! It's up-to-date too. Check it out at: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Shores/3599/ I'll eventually have all the coin images up for downloading. I'll try to make it more legible for non-graphical users later. David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Let's Promote TEC Date: 18 Jul 1997 19:37:26 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 ENTROPYM@aol.com wrote: > I was one of those people to who he refered. I collected all of the > side until I found out that there was a whole bunch more ...er...eccentrics > out there. > Frankly, you people scare me. :) If this eccentricity scares you, you should see the extant of my vampire collection! Now THAT'S eccentric (and scary). Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 18 Jul 1997 19:44:51 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, David McDonald wrote: > How does one get ahold of the TEC newsletter? > You join TEC. It's only $10 a year and not only do you get TEC News, but you get to "meet" a lot oc cool people and get freebies to boot! Not mention you'll get your very own TEC number to put in your messages 8-) You can request a sample copy of the newsletter from Howard Sharkey, but you won't necessarily get the most recent ish. I am assuming you're looking for the issue w/ the con coins offered. Howard's address is on the membership form I am sending in a message directly to you. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention Date: 18 Jul 1997 23:44:33 -0700 Just join TEC!!! Their newsletter comes out quarterly. There is a TEC application at: http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/tec.htm --Willy > > How does one get ahold of the TEC newsletter? > > David E. McDonald > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Internet and Coin Collecting Article Date: 18 Jul 1997 23:49:21 -0700 Paul Richards wrote: > > I am very interested in hearing your critique of the material. After a > week or so of review and refinement, I plan to send a manuscript to Mr. Ed > Reiter of COINage magazine for his perusal. > Paul, Before offering any furter critiques.... It would be nice if you would answer the questions that I had previously aked on this matter! --Will ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine in Pismo Beach Date: 19 Jul 1997 01:23:17 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-18 06:34:41 EDT, you write: > > "My wife picked that one up at the small shopping mall > near the pier in Pismo Beach, CA. She didn't say what > the name of the mall was, other than it was at the pier." > > Now you know all that I do. > > Peace, > > Aahz > Hi All, Just got back from a week away. I see lots of replies to my "Elongate Paint" request. A big thanks for all replies. I will read them first thing in the AM Sat. I hope to put the knowelge to good use! The note above fro Aahz caught my eye, I just happend to be driving past Pismo today! Missed the machine!! But spotted one at 833 Embarcadero in Morro Bay CA, not far from Pismo! It's a horizontal elongate cent with a Sea Otter pictured at sea. Just a block south on the other side of the street at "The Captain's" store, is another elongate machine, also a Eurolink, and very much like the first but with the Morro Rock pictured instead of the Otter. Also found a couple of machines on "Cannery Row" in Monterey. I believe these machines are well known, if not, let me know and I'll post the discriptions and address...... Sorry, I'm in mind fade right now, long drive today and it's late (for me)... -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: Re: (elongates) Let's Promote TEC Date: 18 Jul 1997 23:27:30 -0700 > > side until I found out that there was a whole bunch more ...er...eccentrics > > out there. > > Frankly, you people scare me. :) > > If this eccentricity scares you, you should see the extant > of my vampire collection! Now THAT'S eccentric (and scary). yes, chris, BUT...do you have permanent fangs??? -nikki -- "There's still a part of me that's 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Vampires (WAY off topic-but fun) Date: 19 Jul 1997 01:49:33 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, tink!!! wrote: > > If this eccentricity scares you, you should see the extant > > of my vampire collection! Now THAT'S eccentric (and scary). > > yes, chris, BUT...do you have permanent fangs??? > Only the ones I was made with. If you note in my .sig below, I am a vampire hunter, not one of them. There are more then enough people walking around with dental implants, I do not feel the need to join them. I prefer a challenge to my hunt. Why prey on the weak? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Richards" Subject: Re: (elongates) Internet and Coin Collecting Article Date: 19 Jul 1997 09:24:15 -0400 Will, > Before offering any furter critiques.... It would be nice if you would > answer the questions that I had previously aked on this matter! Sorry, Will, I must have missed your question. I have been out of town for two weeks and the e-mail piled up a mile high. In addition, my wife and I share the same e-mail address, and Diane gets 150 messages per day about German Shepherd Dogs. Yikes! We are in the process of fixing this back-up, but we are not there yet. Again, sorry I missed your inquiries. Can you repeat them? Paul R. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Silver Quarters Date: 19 Jul 1997 15:29:45 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-10 18:15:18 EDT, you write: > > As with all coins, you should consult a coin pricing guide or coin shop. > > I have found many bookstores carrying paperback (and hard cover) books on > > coin prices. Be sure you are not smashing something of real numismatic > > value. > > > Best prices I've seen to the public was at the Long Beach Coin Show (other shows should have similiar prices). The quarters, 1964's were uncirculated ("BU") at 3.5 times face in rolls of 40. -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 19 Jul 1997 15:29:51 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-11 00:43:42 EDT, you write: > Hey, has anyone ever tried silver quarters? I've never even SEEN a quarter > press or I'd > try it myself... Silver quarters in poor condition still polish up pretty > nicely! > > Later... > > Ben Lavine > Hi Ben; Yes, I use silver quarters. I like the finish and look. But, the quarters cost about 80 cents each, so, you want to make sure that the roller is working just right. -Bob Hoff TEC #2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 19 Jul 1997 15:29:53 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-11 04:20:49 EDT, you write: > Now THIS is great idea! We can have the first ever Elongated > Coin Mailing List Meet, Trade session, and Collection trip! I would LOVE > to put faces to some of these names. I'm in Northern California, so > could probably drive down for the weekend (How much is DL admission these > days?) > > How many people would be interested/able to make a trip to Disneyland? > > Peace, > > Aahz > > ~ Sounds like fun!!! -Bob Hoff TEC #2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney Ideas Date: 19 Jul 1997 15:30:01 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-13 01:12:41 EDT, you write: > I'll get some possible ideas and put them up here on the mailing list. > One possible idea would be to meet at Beliles (I may have spelled this > wrong) for breakfast before going into the park. It was started in 1955, > the same year as Disneyland and they serve over-sized portions you won't > believe! It is only a few blocks from the park... > > As I remember, they have man-sized pancakes etc. No, not a man's portion. They are the size of a man! :-) You were close on the spelling, it's Belisle's (BELL EYE-EL's) (714)750-6560. They are on Harbor Blvd at I THINK Chapman maybe a mile or two from DL (They are long blocks, but, the place is sooooo "different" that many people don't mind.) The restruant as I remember is bright pink with huge portions and a most eclectic group of customers. Happy Collecting -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 19 Jul 1997 15:30:04 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-13 20:51:40 EDT, you write: > If someone is going to get a set of Disneyland coins together. I would be > interested in a set of those also. > Mark > Hi Mark and All; I'm thinking on it. The list of the DL machines on the net has me planning on how to best attack the park. :-) If I can find a way to get this old gray body 'round the park with a load of cents and quarters, I just may have some trades for us. I'll post on this subject in about 10 days after I've given it a try at DL. I'm thinking I'd just press a bunch and set them aside for folks that would like to trade? With the group's planned trip to DL, many want lists will be filled then, but, I could do the "fill-ins"? Happy Collecting, -Bob Hoff TEC#2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Counterstamping Date: 19 Jul 1997 15:30:08 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-18 15:09:15 EDT, you write: > Greetings & Salutations! > > Some time ago someone (sorry I don't remember who) asked about > methods for counterstamping coins. Several ideas were presented. I am > curious to know what became of the situation. Did you find what you were > looking for? How difficult was the search? Costs? > > On a similar note: Has anyone ever counterstamped an elongate? > Elongated a counterstamped coin? Inquiring minds want to know! > > Peace, > > Aahz > Hi Aahz! It was me! I asked about the counter stamping. I received some names, and a lot of leads (Thank you all) but, have not called as I have been out of town. Other than standard dies from Home Depot ( I could find numbers and letters, but no patterns). The names were: It sounds like you want to mark your coins with a punch of some type. As Chris said, the ready made ones are relatively inexpensive. Anything else would have to be a special order. It all depends upon how you want to mark your coins. There are those Lincoln cents with all sorts of things stamped on them (a pipe, Kennedy, Masonic emblem, etc). If that is your desire, you must find someone to make the punch for you. Look in the phone book for "Die Sinkers (makers)." Letter and number punches are readily available for a few dollars each. Regards, Bob Fritsch TEC #1871 Hi all. Two sources to try for dies for countermarking: Henry A. Evers Corp. 72 N. Oxford St. Providence, RI 02905 Ph. 401-781-4767 Fax 401-781-9581 OR Centaur Forge. ltd. P.O. Box 340-A 117 N. Spring St. Burlington, WI 53105 Ph. 414-763-9175 Fax 414-763-8350 If you send Centaur Forge a hand drawn design of what you want, and the desired overall height. They will send you a written quote within a few days. If you contact either of these companies, please let them know that their information was passed along from ads in 'The Blade' magazine. Good luck. Ben Lavine mcsquare@erols.com -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies Date: 19 Jul 1997 15:30:26 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-11 07:11:34 EDT, you write: > On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > > > I'd bite at $125.00 +/- on pre '82's would even go for the quarters and > > nickels if he has 'um. Even if I was "on property", I'd pay that. Man, > what > > a job (unless you are rolling a pile of them at one time). > > Well, if we count Bob in, we're down to $142. > > Peace, > > Aahz > Maybe we could ask "Big Al" to make up the sets and sell at a price to those that use a special order or are listed as group buyers? It would keep us from the worries and maybe we could gather outside collectors to add to our number? -Bob Hoff TEC #2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: Fwd: (elongates) Machine in Pismo Beach Date: 20 Jul 1997 09:24:48 -0700 Greetings, On behalf of the "location keepers" -- thanks for our first Pizmo Beach location! Now, we just need someone to stop by this machine on their next Pizmo trip. 8-) Thanks again Aahz for all your contributions! Bert Location Keeper 'Lookin' forward to this List's 1st Meeting at Disneyland' > > I've got another machine to report to the location keepers. > > Peace, > > Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: (elongates) Let's Promote TEC Date: 20 Jul 1997 09:24:52 -0700 Greetings All, > Actually, this doesn't really surprise me. I have written to Tom >DuBois (President of The San Francisco Penny Machine Company) several >times with questions, and all I get is: "we don't give company >information to non-employees". As for Eurolink, several e-mails and two >letters have gone unanswered in the last two years 8-(. It seems to me >that these companies really don't grasp the concept of a consumer base >for their product. They seem unable to break out of the "impulse buyer" >product mindset. > > Peace, > > Aahz I wanted to offer some additional information on this topic. I too have tried to contact the San Francisco Penny Machine Company, with no response. I also have tried to contact the Aloha Penny Machine company in Hawaii on several occaisions, and they never return my calls. I have had contact with Eurolink. They are in their "season" and are very busy now, working across the country (and presumably the world), installing new machines, repairing and updating older machines and working on new locations. I hope we can get more locations, and information from these companies. It will greatly aid us in collecting/trading AND it will help them in their revenue streams! Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Machine companies (Long but important!) Date: 20 Jul 1997 14:15:25 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 20 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > I hope we can get more locations, and information from these companies. > It will greatly aid us in collecting/trading AND it will help them in > their revenue streams! This seems like a prefect (and very necessary) project for this list to take on. Perhaps one (or more) of you that attend the ANA convention can talk this up with TEC people there. We've got the power of The Elongated Coin Mailing List (about 30 members), TEC (hundreds of members), and an institution (The Squished Penny Museum) behind us. Let's put some (friendly) pressure on these companies. The way I see it these are the things we need to do to have the greatest chance of success: 1) Compile a list of company addresses. The San Francisco Penny Machine Company can be reached at: Tom BuBois San Francisco Penny Machine Company 115 Fair Ave. Petaluma, CA 94952 Phone: (707) 763-8583 Eurolink can be reached at: Eurolink 930 Huber Street, Suite H Grover Beach, CA 93433 Phone: (805) 481-4507 FAX: (805) 481-4512 E-Mail: EurolinkCA@aol.com (A contact name is always helpful if anyone has one) I had never heard of the Aloha Penny Company unti Bert just mentioned them. If you have ANY contact information on other machine companies please post it to the list. Another company is called Uncommon Sense. Where do you get this info? Well, sometimes it's on the machines themselves. You can ask a clerk at the store for the information. They usually have a business card or at least a number to call if the machine breaks. Or you can write to the attraction that hosts the machines. I have found that tourist spots, amusement parks and zoos all respond quickly and thoroughly to any queries they receive. 2) Decide what it is we need to know. Most key is a list of machine locations. I would also like to know things like what "signatures" are on their coins (and when they started using them), what happens to machine signage when a machine is removed. Do they have records of where machines USED to be. 3) Start contacting them and asking for either answers to these questions or to have a representative that can communicate with our representative (or the list directly). My activist days taught me that if a matter is not of extreme urgency, snail mail is the best way to get a message across. Large numbers of phone calls quickly cause an annoyance and e-mail can be deleted too easily. This isn't to say that these methods should not be used, simply that they should always be followed up by a traditional letter. Also, numbers count. Does anyone know how many members TEC has? If we can inform them that we represent an organization of x number of members it will probably pull more weight. If no one posts membership numbers before ANA could someone please inquire at the TEC meeting? 4) Create a form letter. While personal letters hold SLIGHTLY more weight than form letters, both work well. These letters should be no more than one page and cover salient points: who we are and what we want. It is important for people to include their TEC numbers and mention the list in their communication. Anyone care to write a form letter and post it to the list? If we can run off some copies of such a letter (one for each company whose address we get) and have them available at the TEC table at ANA this would be great! 5) Get more people involved. This is mainly up to the convention goers. When you talk to people at cons about elongates, bring the topic up. Okay, this is getting really long, so I'm going to cut it here. This should get those thoughts flowing. Your input is both welcome and important. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Letter writing campaign idea Date: 20 Jul 1997 14:27:51 -0700 (PDT) I just had a brilliant idea. If any of you are unaware of it Pete Morelewicz is the co-founder/operator of The Squished Penny Museum in Washington D.C. as well as a list subscriber (and all around nice guy 8-). Each time I have traded with Pete he has included some beautiful postcards advertising the SPM. I would assume (although I recommend waiting for a confirmation from Pete) that if you were to send an elongate or two to the SPM, he would send you a few postcards in return. These postcards would be perfect for sending a short note to the machine companies! They are even more likely to impress upon these companies that there is a serious bodies of collectors out here pouring money into their machines. Also, each time I have received a response from SFPMC they've sent several free pennies along with their (closed mouth) letter. So if you don't see how this letter writing campaign can benefit you personally, free elongates should be some motivation. Even if you don't like/already have the freebies they send, they can always be traded! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Rolling Mill (fwd) Date: 20 Jul 1997 18:05:36 -0700 (PDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Chris, Ther is one at Stew Leonards a grocery store, it is in Brookfield Ct. on Federal rd. There are no markings on it to denote the maker. Tony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) New Trade List (1 of 5) Date: 21 Jul 1997 00:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Okay, here's my latest trade list. Once again, I'm going to post it to the list in five sections. If you would prefer a copy in a single e-mail or sent as an attached file, just let me know. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Aahz' Elongates Trade List Updated: 07/20/97 Chris Aahz 925 Ravenscourt Ave #2 San Jose, CA 95128 Aahz@svpal.org Well, I have been working on my cataloging/naming system, so several elongates on the list have different names than they did on my last list. Most of the name changes have the former name listed as well to help avoid confusion. This is an ongoing process, so if there is any confusion over wether or not a name has been changed or it's a new elongate, just ask. Most of my elongates were purchased for the approximate issue price of 50c, however, some cost me more. As a result I have come up with a UNIT designation for each item on the list. The UNIT level is set at MY COST. There is not a profit margin built in for trades. I have designated one UNIT to equal one currently available elongate. So, if an item is listed as 3 UNITs, then my asking 'price' is 3 currently available elongates. If you have older elongates to trade, or other items, then I'm sure we can agree on something that is fair. The UNIT designation is basically a starting point. If you prefer purchase over trade, then consider 1 UNIT to equal 75c. As I have multiple copies of many coins I can't describe condition here. If condition is an issue, let me know in your trade request and I will do my best to explain on the items you're interested in. My wants at this time are: 1) Elongates w/ the Lord's Prayer 2) Elongates on foreign coins 3) TEC Elongates 4) Elongates from/relating to San Francisco 5) Tourist Location Elongates 6) Souvenir Coins/Tokens/Wooden Nickels/Self-Punch Tokens 7) Store Card Elongates 8) Coin Club/Show Elongates 9) Halloween Elongates 10) Humorous/Oddball Items If you're looking for something I don't have, let me know and I'll keep my eyes open. I love to trade, so negotiating is not a problem. UNITS ITEM NAME DESCRIPTION {NOTES} ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Elongates (Coin Clubs/Shows)- 1 Santa Barbara Coin Club v. Club logo, "40th Year/1956-1996/ Santa Barbara Coin Club/Santa Barbara CA/P.O. Box 6205/93160" 1 1994 ANA Convention v. Antique truck, "103rd ANA Convention/July 27-31/1994/Detroit, Mich." Elongates (Disney)- 3 Pirates of the Caribbean h. Cannon, "Pirates of the Caribbean/ Disneyland" Elongates (Holiday)- S '94 Hanukka h. Menorah, "Happy Hanukka/1994/ " {on Israeli 1 Agora coin, trade for foriegn only} 1 Brazzell Seasons Greeting h. "Season's Greetings/Jane and Frank Brazzell" 1 Christmas - Loaded Santa v. Santa w/ bag full o' goodies, "Merry Christmas" 1 Christmas/New Year 1983 v. Christmas Tree, "Merry Christmas/ Happy New Year/1983" 1 Christmas/New Year Santa v. Santa, "Merry Christmas/Happy New Year" 1 Christmas Note h. Santa w/ pen, "A Christmas Note/To Keep In Touch/With Special Folks/Who Mean So Much" 1 Christmas Snowman v. Snowman w/ scarf, hat & broom, "Christmas Greetings" 1 Dancing Santa v. Santa 'Dancing', "Merry Christmas" 1 Dillard Noel v. Streetlight, full moon, holly, "Noel/Merry Christmas" 1 Flat Out Santa h. Santa's Face, "Oh My! I have been rolled and stretched to wish you a Flat-Out Merry Christmas" 1 House to House Christmas h. Two houses exchanging gifts, "Merry Christmas From Our House To Yours" 1 Michal Powers 1st B-day v. Birthday cake w/ one candle, "Happy /Birthday/Michael/Michael James/Powers /November 7/1984" 1 Santa - Fireplace v. Santa in front of fireplace w/ stocking, voice bubble: "Merry Christmas" 1 Santa - Fireplace 2 v. Santa in front of fireplace w/ stocking and holly, voice bubble: "Merry Christmas" 1 Sears Christmas v. Rudolph w/ Shining Nose, "Merry/ Christmas/From/Russ/Sears" 1 Snowy Season's Greetings h. Snowflakes, "Season's/Greetings" 1 X-mas & New Year Santa v. Santa's Face, "Merry Christmas/ Happy New Year" 1 Xmas-Long-Gaited Reindeer h. Holly, Reindeer, "Merry Christmas/ Long-Gaited Reindeer" Elongates (Inspirational)- 1 Easy Does It h. "Easy/Does It!" 1 Educate Yourself h. Book and Torch, "Educate Yourself/ 1 Follow Your Dreams v. Unicorn head, "Follow/Your/Dreams" {Dime} Read and Learn/At Your Library" 1 I Knew I Could v. Train Engine, "I/Knew/I/Could" 1 I'm On The Right Track v. Train Engine, "I'm On The/Right/ Track" 1 I Think I Can v. Train Engine, "I/Think/I/Can" 1 One Day At A Time h. "One Day At A Time" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) New Trade List (2 of 5) Date: 21 Jul 1997 00:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Elongates (Lucky Piece)- 1 7 Come 11 v. Dice showing 7, "Come", Dice showing 11, "My Lucky/Cent" Horseshoe 1 Lucky Cent - Triple v. Horseshoe, Four-leaf Clover, Rabbit's Foot, "My Lucky Cent" 1 Lucky Lottery Penny v. Outline of Texas w/ Cowboy Hat, "Lucky/Lottery/Penny" 1 Lucky Unicorn v. Unicorn Head, "Lucky Unicorn" 1 My Lucky Cent-Horseshoe v. Large Horseshoe, Four-leaf Clover, "My Lucky Cent" 1 My Lucky Coin v. Horseshoe w/ Four-leaf Clovers, "My Lucky Coin" 1 My Lucky Penny Bingo h. Four-leaf Clover, Bingo card, "My Lucky Penny" 1 NY Good Luck Penny v. Four-leaf Clover, Horseshoe, entertwined NY, "Good/Luck/Penny" Elongates (Military)- 1 20th Special Ops v. Helicopter, Knight Chess Piece, "20th Special/Operations/Squadron/ MH-53J Pavelow IIIE Green Hornets" 1 101st Airborne (AASLT) v. Helicopter 'wings' logo, "101st Airborne Division/(AASLT)/Ft. Campbell, KY" 2 B24 Flying Circus h. B24, "Marvin 'Pete' Burris/Tail Gunner/Flying Circus/B24 Liberator/529 Squad/5th AAF 380 Bomb Group" 1 Enola Gay Restoration v. Enola Gay dropping bomb, Stealth Bomber, "Enola Gay-Aug 6, 1945/Pres./ Truman/Authorizes/Atom Bomb/Drop/ Stealth/Restoration Project" 1 Kentucky-Birthplace h. Confederate flag, U.S. flag, "Kentucky/Birthplace of Davis-Lincoln /1861/1865/War Between The States" 1 Special Forces v. Special Forces logo, "Special Forces/To Free The Oppressed" 1 Total Victory h. American flag over stylized V, "Total Victory/1991/Operation Desert Storm" 1 USA Frees Kuwait v. Fighter Jet, "U.S.A. Frees Kuwait/ Desert Storm/Jan 16-Feb 18, 1991" Elongates (Misc.)- 1 1991 Friendship Deer v. Buck jumping hedge, "Frindship/ 1991" 1 Arkansas h. obv. State outline, Flower, Bird, "Arkansas/The Wonder State/Apple Blossom/Mockingbird" rev. "Don't Say I Never/Gave You Nothing" 1 Art Seal h. Seal(?) on rock {looks like modern art sculpture} 1 Bat Logo h. Batman's BatLogo 1 Bedford Gets Electricity h. Light bulb w/ light rays, "People's Electric Light Co./1891/1904/Bedford GetsElectricity/1904/1913/Bedford Light and Power Co." 1 Chinese Love Token v. Circle w/ four couples having sex, "Chinese Love Token" 1 Firefighter v. Generic FD badge, "Firefighter/ Dedicated To Saving Lives" 1 Friendship (Dreamcatcher) h. Dreamcatcher w/ bison skull, "Friendship/1989" {Canadian Cent} 1 Gemini - Sex h. nude man and woman (doggie style), "May 21/June 20/Gemini" 1 Gladiator h. Roman helmet, "Gladiator" {Canadian Cent} 1 Happy-Sad Face v. obv. 'reversible' Happy-Sad Face, "Have/A/Nice/Day", rev. "Don't Say I Never/Gave You Nothing" 1 Hormotoma Whiteavesi v. Seashell, "Hormotosa Whiteavesi/ Silurian" 1 Horse Head v. Horse Head, facing left 1 If No One Claims Me h. "If No One/Claims Me/Within 30 Days /I'm All Yours" 1 Illinois Sesquicentennial State Outline, "150 Years of Statehood/ Illinois/1818/1968" 1 I Love You (Heart) v. Scroll and Heart, "I/Love/You" 1 Japanese Waterfall v. Waterfall, three Japanese Characters 1 NEHS Vikings v. Vikings logo, "Northeast Vikings/ NEHS/Oklahoma City/Oklahoma" 1 Oklahoma 60th Anniversary h. State outline, "1907-1967/Oklahoma/ 60th Anniversary" 1 Party with the Buffaloes v. Buffalo holding beer bottle and cigarette, "Party/With/The/Buffaloes" 2 Party/Buffaloes-Nickel v. Buffalo holding beer bottle and cigarette, "Party/With/The/Buffaloes" {On nickel} 1 Psittacosaurus h. Dinosaur skeleton, "Psittacosaurus Cretaceous" 1 Radix School v. Cartoonish Indian brave, "Radix School" 3 Santa Ana Centennial City Seal, "Santa Ana Centennial/1869/ 1969" 2 Save The Whale v. Whale, "Save The Whale" 2 Save The Whales - 1 v. Whale, Heart, "Save The Whales" 2 Save The Whales - 2 v. Whale, Heart, "Save The Whales" 1 Seven Valleys Centennial h. City seal, "1892/Centennial/1992/ Aug./23rd/Seven Valleys, PA." 1 Smile "Smile" 1 Souvenir of Arkansas v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/ Arkansas/Land Of/Opportunity" 1 Souvenir of Delaware v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/ Delaware/First State/Blue Hen/State" 1 Souvenir of Illinois v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/ Illinois/Prairie/State/Land Of/ Lincoln" 1 Souvenir of Kentucky v. State Outline, "Commonwealth/Of/ Kentucky/Home Of The/Kentucky Derby/ The/Blue Grass/State" 1 Souvenir of Massachusetts v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/ Massachusetts/The/Bay/State" 1 Souvenir of Montana v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/Montana /Big Sky/Country" 1 Souvenir of N. Carolina v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/North/ Carolina/The/Tar Heel/State" 1 Souvenir of Nebraska v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/ Nebraska/The/Cornhusker/State" 1 Souvenir of New Mexico v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/New/ Mexico/Land/Of/Enchantment" 1 Souvenir of Rhode Island v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/Rhode/ Island/The Ocean/State" 1 Souvenir of S. Carolina v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/South/ Carolina/The/Palmetto/State" 1 Souvenir of Utah v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/Utah/ The Salt/Lake State" 1 Souvenir of Wisconsin v. State outline, "Souvenir/Of/ America's/Dairy Land/Wisconsin/The Badger/State" 1 Telescope v. Outlined telescope 1 Texas 125th Anniversary v. Texas Outline w/ star, "Texas/1845- 1970/125th/Anniv." 1 The Drinking Class h. Hand holding beer mug, "Work/Is The/Curse Of/The/Drinking/Class" 1 Things To Do Today (Sex) h. Couple in missionary position, "Things To Do/Today!" 1 T-Rex v. Tyrannosaurus Rex, "T-Rex" 2 Tustin Centennial "1868/Tustin Centennial/1968/Tustin, California" 1 Tyrannosaurus Rex v. T-rex, "Tyrannosaurus Rex" 1 USS High Purvis Reunion 2 v. Hippocampus, "2nd/Ships Reunion/ U.S.S. Hugh Purvis/D.D. 709/Aug. 22, 1992" 1 Virginia 180th Anniv. h. State outline, "Virginia/1788-1968/ 180th Anniv." 2 Viva Chihuahua v. Chihuahua standing on hind feet, "Good Luck/Viva Chihuahua" 1 War Eagle Scrollwork, "War/Eagle/Auburn/Alabama" {Canadian Cent} 1 Waterloo Boy h. Tractor, "Waterloo Boy" 1 'Y' v. "Y" 1 You Are Special To Me v. Heart, "You Are Very Special To Me" 1 Zebra Service Award h. Zebra, "Zebra Service Award" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) New Trade List (3 of 5) Date: 21 Jul 1997 00:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Elongates (Patriotic)- 1 American Shield h. Striped Shield, "America/The Beautiful" 1 Keep It Flying h. American Flag waving in the wind, "Keep It Flying" 1 US Constitution Preamble v. Elongates (People)- 1 Bob Wieland h. Man w/ arms out (t-shirt says 'Walk For Hunger'), "Bob Weiland/2784 Miles/ Hands Across America" 1 George Burns h. Burns' face, "George Burns/Jan 20, 1996/100th Birthday" 1 Haden Powell Memorial v. Haden in uniform, "Feb. 22, 1857/ Jan. 5, 1941/Haden Powell" 1 James Dean v. Dean's face, "James Dean/1931-1955" 1 John Wayne - American v. Wayne's face, "John Wayne - American/1907-1979" 2 Marilyn-Lucky Scent h. Nude, reclining Marilyn, "My Lucky Scent/Marilyn Monroe" 1 Marilyn (Nude) v. Nude upper body of woman w/ arm over head (Monroe?), "Marilyn" 1 Marilyn Monroe v. Marilyn's face, "Marilyn Monroe/ 1926/1962" Elongates (Philatelic)- 1 North Carolina - FDC v. 25c North Carolina Flower Stamp, "First Day/Of Issue/August 22,/1989" Elongates (Politics)- 1 Clinton 1/2 Cent v. Caricature of Clinton, "Clinton 1/2 Cent/In Hillary We Trust" 1 FDR 32nd President v. Bust of FDR, "Franklin D./Roosevelt /32nd President/3 Terms/1933-1945/ 1882-1945" 1 Hillary 1/2 Cent v. Caricature of Hillary Clinton, "Hillary 1/2 Cent/In Government We Trust" 6 P&PC-19a Kennedy Assassin h. "John F. Kennedy/Assassinated/Nov. 22nd 1963/Dallas-Texas/35th-President/ JR" {JR are mirrored initials of Ralph Jones, the roller/designer} 1 Replublic - Helps Poor h. Elephant, "Support The Party That Helps The Poor/Vote Republican" 1 Texas 1/2 Cent v. Caricature of Ann Richards, "Texas 1/2 Cent/In Ann We Trust" 1 Vote Dem h. Dinkey w/ blanket, "Vote Democratic/DEM" 1 Vote Pendergrass Sherriff h. Star badge, "Vote For/Lindy Pendergrass/Sheriff/Orange County" Elongates (Religious)- 1 23rd Psalm v. 1 Cross of Jerusalem Jerusalem Cross, "The Cross of Jerusalem/Emblem of the Crusader Kings" 1 Jesus Saves v. Scrollwork, "Jesus/Saves" 1 John Paul II - Korea v. Pope in profile, "Seoul/Korea/Pope/ John Paul II" {Canadian Cent} 1 Justice For All v. Grim Reaper over an old fashioned scale with a Harley on it, Christ's face, "He/Is/Justice/For/All" 1 Praise The Lord v. "Praise The Lord" 1 Psalm 33:12 h. "Berea Acts 17:10-11/Blessed Is The Nation/Whose God Is The Lord/And The People Whom/He Hath Chosen For His/Own Inheritance/Psalm 33:12" 1 RR Ten Commandments v. Text of 10 Commandments, last line seperated: Exodus 20 1 Serenity Prayer 1 h. 1 Serenity Prayer 2 v. Text of Serenity prayer 1 Serenity Prayer - Sun v. Sun, 1 SIMUL-13 -10 Commandments h. Ten Commandments on two tablets, waffle reverse {Simulated Elongate} 1 Ten Commandments v. Text of Ten Commandments, "Exodus 20" 1 The Cross In My Pocket h. Shining Cross, "The Cross In My Pocket/A Constant Reminder of My Commitment To Christ/No Matter Where I May Be" Elongates (Ships)- 4 SHIPS-6 Old Ironsides h. Sailing Ship, "Old Ironsides/ Launched 1797" 1 S.S. Brazil h. Cruise ship, "805th T.D.-BN./S.S. Brazil/19/92/Aug. 6, 1942/Convoy to England" Elongates (Society)- 1 Eagles (FOE) v. logo, "Eagles" 1 Eastern Star v. 5-pointed star w/ symbols in each point and center, "Eastern/Star" 1 Elmina Braz Clowns v. Clown's face, "Elmina Temple/Braz/ Clowns/Galveston/Texas" 1 High Twelve International v. Logo, "High Twelve/International" 1 Knights of Columbus v. KoC logo, "Knights of Columbus" 1 Knights Templar-York Rite v. Cross thru Crown, Emblem of the Blue Lodge, "York Rite/Knights Templar" 1 Lions (World Wide) v. Lions logo, "World/Wide" 1 Masonite v. KoC/Mason's logo, "Masonite/For Those Who Don't Know Which Road To Take" 1 Masons-Blue Lodge v. Masonic emblems, "Blue Lodge" 1 Masons-Brotherly Love v. Masonic symbols, "Friendship/ Morality/Brotherly Love" 1 Masons-Flint Lodge #23 h. Masonic emblem, "Henry Jones, W.M. /George/Bowden/S.W./Clyde/Lapish/J.W./ 1994/Flint Lodge #23 Flint, Mich." 1 Masons-Garden Lodge v. Flowered wreath, Masons emblem, "Garden Lodge/No. G41/A.F.&A.M-G.R.C. /1987/Windsor, Canada" 1 Masons-hand v. Hand holding emblem of the Blue Lodge, "F.&A.M." 1 Masons-Hillbilly Degree v. Man and woman each holding a crutch over their head, Masonic symbols, "Hillbilly Degree/Helps Crippled Children/Honor/Respect" 1 Masons-Royal Arch Chapter v. Chapter logo, Emblem of the Blue Lodge, "Royal Arch/Mason/Chapter" 1 Masons-Shrine h. Large Sword, Star, Emblem of the Blue Lodge, "Shrine" 1 Masons-Symbols h. Various Masonic symbols and tools 1 Masons-Was Penniless h. Emblem of the Blue Lodge, "Once I Was Also Penniless" 1 Order of the Amaranth v. Crown/Sword/Wreath logo, "Order of/ The/Amaranth" 2 Phylaxis Society h. Masonic symbols, "The Phylaxis Society/10th Anniversary/A Prince Hall Society for the Propagation of Light" {Nickel} 1 Promise Keepers h. PK logo, "A Real Man/Is A Godly Man/Promise Keeps" 1 Scottish Rite v. Ornate Cross logo, "Scottish/Rite/ K.C.C.H." 1 Scottish Rite-33rd Degree v. Dual Eagle logo, "Scottish Rite/ 33rd/Degree" 1 Seaford Post 1132 v. AL logo, "Seaport/Post 1132/ American/Legion/785-9429" 1 Shriner Clown v. Jumping clown, Sword&Crescent logo, "ISCA" 1 Smiling Shriner v. Happy face w/ fez, Emblem of the Blue Lodge, "Smiling/Shriner" 1 UMWA Local 340 v. Crossed shovel & pick, "U.M.W.A. Local 340 Ward/W.VA./Standing Proud for 65 Years" 2 Veterans of Foriegn Wars v. VFW Logo, "Veterans/Of/Foreign/ Wars" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) New Trade List (4 of 5) Date: 21 Jul 1997 00:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Elongates (Souvenir)- 1 Alaska - Cricket v. Cricket, "Alaska" 1 Alaska - Deer v. Deer, "Alaska" 1 Alaska - Dolphin v. Dolphin, "Alaska" 1 Alaska - Dove v. Dove, "Alaska" 1 Alaska - Falcon v. Falcon, "Alaska" 1 Alaska - Goose h. Goose, "Alaska" 1 Alaska - Rodent v. Some type of rodent (groundhog?), "Alaska" 1 Alaska - Salmon v. Salmon, "Alaska" 1 Alaska - Sloth(?) v. Some type of furry critter on large tree branch, "Alaska" 1 Alaska - Weasel v. Weasel, "Alaska" 1 Arizona - Road Runner h. Road Runner, "Road/Runner/Arizona" 1 Boston Museum of Science h. Planets & Comets, "Boston/Museum of Science" 1 CA-PGA-1 Vortex h. Concentric circles w/ coaster car as tail, "Vortex/Great America" {This machine was installed before Paramount bought the park} 1 CA-PGA-2 Carousel h. Carousel Horse, "Paramount's/Great America" 1 CA-PGA-3 Days of Thunder h. Race Car logo, "Days of/Thunder/ Paramount's/Great America" 1 CA-PGA-4 Fred Flintstone v. Fred Flintstone, "Paramount's/ Great/America" {This machine was removed at the end of the 1996 season. I have only a couple left} 1 CA-PGA-5 Top Gun h. F-16 flying thru Top Gun 'wings' logo, "Paramount's/Great America" 1 CA-PGA-6 Drop Zone logo h. "Drop/Zone/Stunt Tower/Paramount's/ Great America" 1 CA-PGA-7 Drop Zone tower v. Ride tower w/passengers, "The/Drop/ Zone/Stunt/Tower/Paramount's/Great America" 1 CA-PGA-8 Dino v. Dino (from Flintstones), "Paramount's/Great/America" 1 CA-SAC Delta King h. River Boat, "Old Sacramento (Formerly: Old Sacramento California" River Boat) 1 CA-SAC Old Town h. Train, Old Town buildings, Capitol, (Formerly: Old Town "Old Town/Sacramento" Sacramento) 1 CA-SAU-1 Suasalito h. Sea Lion, Bridge, Skyline, (Formerly: Sausalito) "Sausalito/California" 1 CA-SCBB-2 Logo h. obv. Roller Coaster logo, "Santa (Formerly: Santa Cruz Beach Cruz Beach/Boardwalk", rev. "Souvenir Boardwalk) of the/Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk/ Santa Cruz/California" 1 CA-SF Fisherman's Wharf h. Fishing vessel tied up at wharf, "Fisherman's Wharf/San Francisco" 1 CA-SF Musee Mechanique h. Large woman w/ small hat, "Musee Mechanique/Laughing Sal/S.F./386-1170" 1 CA-SF Skyline h. Skyline and bridge, "San Francisco" (Formerly: San Francisco Skyline) 1 CA-SF Triple 1 h. GG Bridge, Cable Car, Pier w/ boat, "Golden Gate Bridge/Cable Car/ Fisherman's Wharf" 1 CA-SF Triple 4 h. Captioned images of Golden Gate (Formerly: San Francisco Bridge, Cable Car, Fisherman's Wharf (Triple)) 1 CA-SFA-2 Alcatraz h. Alcatraz Island, "Alcatraz/San (Formerly: Alcatraz) Francisco" 1 CA-SFC Arch h. Chinese archway, "Chinatown" (Formerly: SF Chinatown-Arch) 1 CA-SFC Dragon h. Chinese Dragon, "Chinatown/San (Formerly: SF Chinatown- Francisco" Dragon) 1 CA-SFC Temple v. Chinese Temple & Streetlight, (Formerly: SF Chinatown) "Chinatown/San Francisco" 3 CA-SOLV-1 Mermaid v. Mermaid on rock, "Solvang/ California" 3 CA-SOLV-2 Windmill v. Windmill, "Solvang/California" 1 CA-WMH-1 Logo h. Logo, "Winchester/Mystery House/ (Formerly: Winchester San Jose, California" Mystery House) 1 CA-WMH-2 Products Museum h. Flashlight, Bicycle, Hammer, (Formerly: Winchester "Winchester Products Museum/San Jose, Products Museum) California" 1 Cable Car h. Cable car next to lamppost, "San Francisco" 1 Cable Car Museum h. Cable Car, "San Francisco/Cable Car Museum" 2 Cable Car - Quarter h. Cable Car w/ conductor getting on, "Cable Car" {Quarter} 1 Cannery Row Otter h. Otter on back, "Cannery/Row/ Monterey California" 3 Colorado Belle h. obv. River Boat, rev. "Colorado Belle/Laughlin, NV" 1 Excalibur/Riding Knight h. Logo w/ sword thru "Excalibur", Knight riding horse, "Hotel/Casino/Las Vegas" 1 Excalibur/Knight's Helmet h. Logo w/ sword thru "Excalibur", Knight's plumed helmet, "Hotel/Casino/ Las Vegas" 1 Golden Gate Bridge v. Bridge, "Golden Gate Bridge/San Francisco" {This machine was removed in either April or May 1997} 3 Grand Slam Canyon-Vegas h. obv. Logo of mountain, "Grand/Slam/ Canyon/Adventuredome/Circus/Circus/ Hotel/Casino/Las Vegas", rev. Circus tent, "Be A Kid Again!/Circus Circus/Hotel Casino/Las Vegas" 1 Hayden Planetarium h. Satelite, "Hayden Planetarium/ Boston/Zeiss Projector/Museum of Science" 1 Holy Nativity Church h. Church, "Memorial/Church/Of The/ Holy Trinity/1893/1993/100th Anniversary/Rockledge, PA." 1 Mackerel Jack's h. Captain at wheel in rain gear, "Cannery Row/Monterey, California" 1 MN-VF!-5 Excalibur h. Long sword, "Excalibur/ValleyFair!" 1 San Francisco (GG Bridge) h. Bridge, "San Francisco/Golden Gate Bridge" 1 SF Golden Gate Bridge-h h. View of Bridge/Skyline from Marin, "San Francisco" {This machine was installed in either April or May 1997} 1 SF Golden Gate Bridge-v v. View of Bridge from viewing area, "San Francisco/Golden Gate Bridge" {This machine was installed in either April or May 1997} 1 SF - Japanese Tea Garden Japanese Arch, bridge & priest, "Japanese Tea Garden/San Francisco" 1 Space Shuttle-6th Launch h. Shuttle w/ open bay doors, "The Space Shuttle/1st/Flight/New/ Challenger/Space/Craft/6th Launch/ April 4th 1983" 1 The Cliff House h. Restaraunt w/ rocky beach, "The Cliff House/San Francisco" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) New Trade List (5 of 5) Date: 21 Jul 1997 00:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Elongates (Sports)- 1 49ers Football h. Large football, NFL logo, "San Francisco 49ers" 3 '75 Indy 500 h. Formula 1 Car, "Indy 500 Mile/19/75 /Classic" 1 Babe Ruth-Birth Centenial Babe Ruth w/ bat, "Babe Ruth/Sultan of (Formerly: Babe Ruth) Swat/Centennial of Birth/1895-1995" 1 Capitols 20th Anniversary h. Capitols logo, "Washington Capitols /20th Anniversary" 1 Dan Marino - 343 TDs h. Quarterback, "Dan Marino/Nov. 26 1995/343 Touch Downs/All-Time Record" 1 Dave Winfield-3000 Hits h. Batter, "Dave Winfield/Sept. 16 1993/3000 Hits" 1 Detroit Grand Prix h. Line drawings of car, buildings, course, "19/83/Detroit Grand Prix" 1 Dwight Gooden-Cy Young h. Pitcher, "Dwight Gooden/METS/Cy Young Pitcher of the Year" 1 Eddie Murray-3000 Hits h. Batter, "Eddie Murray/June 30 1995/ 3000 Hits" 1 Fla. Panthers Inaugural v. Panther breaking hockey stick, "1993-1994/Florida Panthers/Inagural Year" {Inaugural is misspelled on coin} 1 Great American Race h. Antique car, "Great American Race/ 19/90/1915 Winton/Frank & David Kleptz/Terre Haute, IN" 1 Hideo Nomo - RoY h. Pitcher, "Hideo Nomo/Nov. 9th 1995/ Rookie of the Year" 1 Ken Griffey, Jr.-#1 Draft h. Batter, "Ken Griffey Jr./June 1987/ #1 Draft Pick" 1 Michael Chang-French Open h. Tennis player, "Michael Chang/June 11 1989/Youngest Male Winner/Wins French Open" 1 Mickey Mantle-536 HRs HOF h. Batter, "Mickey Mantle/Hall of Fame 1974/536 Home Runs" 1 Nolan Ryan - 6th No Hit h. Pitcher, "Nolan Ryan/6th No Hitter/ June 11 1990" 1 Nolan Ryan - 7th No Hit h. Pitcher, "Nolan Ryan/7th No Hitter/ May 1st 1991" 1 Nolan Ryan - 5000 Strikes h. Pitcher, "Nolan Ryan/5000 Strike Outs/ Aug. 22 1989" 1 Oakland Raiders v. Logo, "NFL/Oakland Raiders/NFL" 1 Pete Rose - 4192 Hits h. Batter, "Pete Rose/4192 Hits/Sept. 11 1985" 1 Phil. Flyers-25th Anniv v. Flyers 'star' logo, "1967-68/ 1991-92" 1 Pitt Panthers h. Panther, "Pitt Panthers/Pittsburgh, PA" 1 Sprint Car h. car, "Sprint Car" 1 Stock Car h. car, "Stock Car" 1 Wayne Gretzky-1852 Pts. h. Batter, "Wayne Gretzky/Oct. 15, 1989/1852 Points/Hockey's Scoring Leader" {Canadian Cent} 1 World Cup Italia 1990 h. Soccer Ball, "World Cup/Italia 1990" {Canadian Cent} 1 Yankees '78 Series h. Crossed Bats, Baseballs, "New York Yankees Win/Diamond Jubilee Series/ 1903/1978" Elongates (Store Card)- 1 Brazzell-Met You-Davis h. "Good Luck Coin/From/Frank Brazzell/1501 E. Davis Dr./Terre Haute, IN 47802/812-235-6826/Nice To Have Met You" 1 Fashion Cafe - Logo h. "Fashion/Cafe/Merry Go Round" 1 Harley Davidson - Logo h. HD logo 1 Luck 'E' Penny h. "Say It On A Luck 'E' Penny/William C. Massey/(301)937-7732" 1 The Salado Peddler h. Horse-drawn peddler cart, "The Salado Peddler/Salado, Texas" 2 Wagaman - Horseshoe h. Horseshoe lying horizontally w/ "Lucky Cent" on handle, "Elongated Coins/Lloyd Wagaman/Route 1, Box 201-F/Camby, Ind 46113" Elongates (TEC)- 1 Centennial of Elongateds h. Horse and Buggy, TEC Owl, Space Shuttle, "Centennial of the Elongated/ 1893/1993/A Century of 'Change'/From Horse and Buggy to Space Shuttle" Elongates (Train)- 1 Brookville Tunnel h. Engine coming out of tunnel, "Heavy/ Freight/Haulers/Brookeville Tunnel 28/ 40 T-1s/Virginia/1938/Russell, KY to Toledo, Ohio" 1 C.B. & Quincy R.R. h. Engine w/ coal car, "C.B. & Quincy R.R./Class H-4 Mogul" 1 Canadian Pacific R.R. h. Engine w/ coal car, "Canadian Pacific R.R./Class N-1 Columbia" 1 Grasshopper Engine h. Engine, "Grasshopper Engine/ Carillon Park" 1 Great Northern R.R. h. Engine, "Great Northern R.R./Class T-1 Mallet" 1 Milford Tunnel v. Engine coming out of tunnel, "Milford/Tunnel/Lima/Locomotive/Works/ A-1 Engine/1940s" 1 Santa Fe - Engine h. Engine, "Santa Fe R.R./Class A-1 American" 1 The Mogul Engine, "True American/The Mogul" Elongates (World's Fair)- 10 ILL-CPIE-93 (1933) h. Angle view of skyride, "World's Fair/Skyride/Chicago 1933" 6 N.Y-WF(1)-1 (1939) v. Trylon, Perisphere, "New York World's Fair/The World of Tomorrow" 6 N.Y-WF(2)-3 '64 Monorail h. Monorail entering tunnel, "New York World's Fair 1964-1965/Monorail Ride/ RJ" {RJ are initials of Ralph Jones, the roller/designer} 10 N.Y-WF(2)-8 (1964) v. NY State Pavilion, "New York/19/ 64/Worlds Fair" 2 WAS-SWF-3 I Was There 62 v. Space Needle, "I Was There/Space/ Needle/Seattle/1962" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine companies (Long but important!) Date: 20 Jul 1997 23:07:49 -0700 Hi Gang, As far as TEC membership goes: TEC has issued over 2112 membership numbers--I'm not sure how many of those are still active (probably about 600). Howard Sharkey should know exact numbers. Concerning info from the machine makers: Give it up! They are not about to devulge anything... I think it's because of tax reasons--the don't want Uncle Sam to know how much they're REALLY making. --Willy Chris Aahz wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > > > I hope we can get more locations, and information from these companies. > > It will greatly aid us in collecting/trading AND it will help them in > > their revenue streams! > > This seems like a prefect (and very necessary) project for this > list to take on. Perhaps one (or more) of you that attend the ANA > convention can talk this up with TEC people there. We've got the power > of The Elongated Coin Mailing List (about 30 members), TEC (hundreds of > members), and an institution (The Squished Penny Museum) behind us. > Let's put some (friendly) pressure on these companies. The way I see it > these are the things we need to do to have the greatest chance of success: > > 1) Compile a list of company addresses. > > The San Francisco Penny Machine Company can be reached at: > > Tom BuBois > San Francisco Penny Machine Company > 115 Fair Ave. > Petaluma, CA 94952 > > Phone: (707) 763-8583 > > Eurolink can be reached at: > > Eurolink > 930 Huber Street, Suite H > Grover Beach, CA 93433 > > Phone: (805) 481-4507 > FAX: (805) 481-4512 > E-Mail: EurolinkCA@aol.com > (A contact name is always helpful if anyone has one) > > I had never heard of the Aloha Penny Company unti Bert just > mentioned them. If you have ANY contact information on other machine > companies please post it to the list. Another company is called Uncommon > Sense. > Where do you get this info? Well, sometimes it's on the machines > themselves. You can ask a clerk at the store for the information. They > usually have a business card or at least a number to call if the machine > breaks. Or you can write to the attraction that hosts the machines. I > have found that tourist spots, amusement parks and zoos all respond > quickly and thoroughly to any queries they receive. > > 2) Decide what it is we need to know. > > Most key is a list of machine locations. I would also like to know > things like what "signatures" are on their coins (and when they started > using them), what happens to machine signage when a machine is removed. > Do they have records of where machines USED to be. > > 3) Start contacting them and asking for either answers to these > questions or to have a representative that can communicate with our > representative (or the list directly). > My activist days taught me that if a matter is not of extreme > urgency, snail mail is the best way to get a message across. Large > numbers of phone calls quickly cause an annoyance and e-mail can be > deleted too easily. This isn't to say that these methods should not be > used, simply that they should always be followed up by a traditional letter. > Also, numbers count. Does anyone know how many members TEC has? > If we can inform them that we represent an organization of x number of > members it will probably pull more weight. If no one posts membership > numbers before ANA could someone please inquire at the TEC meeting? > > 4) Create a form letter. > > While personal letters hold SLIGHTLY more weight than > form letters, both work well. These letters should be no more than one > page and cover salient points: who we are and what we want. It is > important for people to include their TEC numbers and mention the list > in their communication. > Anyone care to write a form letter and post it to the list? If we can run off some > copies of such a letter (one for each company whose address we get) and > have them available at the TEC table at ANA this would be great! > > 5) Get more people involved. > > This is mainly up to the convention goers. When you talk to > people at cons about elongates, bring the topic up. > > Okay, this is getting really long, so I'm going to cut it here. > This should get those thoughts flowing. Your input is both welcome and > important. > > Peace, > > Aahz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist > The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 > List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) > "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine companies (Long but important!) Date: 21 Jul 1997 08:37:13 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 20 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Concerning info from the machine makers: Give it up! They are not I don't give up anything easily 8-) > about to devulge anything... I think it's because of tax reasons--the > don't want Uncle Sam to know how much they're REALLY making. If this is their reason, then they have no clue how the IRS works! First off, we're not asking anything about revenue. Second, I'm sure they keep track of where their machines are, otherwise they have NO revenue! If the IRS audits 'em then they'll check ALL the records. So, This excuse is not nearly good enough for me. Peace, Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan KITA Subject: (elongates) Location keepers Date: 21 Jul 1997 13:46:32 -0800 OK, this is my first posting after lurking for about two weeks. For years it never occured to me to keep track of these "smashed" pennies. I'd give them to kids, especially my little daughter, who has placed her collection of elongated pennies "God knows where." But after noticing the high number of such machines at Disneyland, I've been taking note of the pennies and I'm busy searching through all thr drawers in the house looking for all these pennies. One of the things we do on vacation is visiting zoos, and most zoos have these pennies, so we got pennies from such places as Cheyenne Mountain Park Zoo in Colorado Springs and the Honolulu Zoo. The Empire State Building is the most costliest and is pressed by hand. I read somewhere that storing these pennies in slide holders is the best, since some of these pages have places where you can write. Can somebody tell me if any of the "location keepers" have sites or a list they can email me? I have the URL for David Tomita's Disneyland Pennies. (We do have quite an assortment of elongated coins from that place.) That is a good list, although they keep changing locations. Now, I will keep track of each location. Alan Kita Torrance, California ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-elongates@xmission.com Date: 21 Jul 1997 15:32:51 -0600 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine companies (Long but important!) Date: 21 Jul 1997 20:15:07 -0700 > > On Sun, 20 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > > > Concerning info from the machine makers: Give it up! Chris Aahz wrote: > I don't give up anything easily 8-) > If this is their reason, then they have no clue how the IRS > works! First off, we're not asking anything about revenue. Second, I'm > sure they keep track of where their machines are, otherwise they have NO > revenue! If the IRS audits 'em then they'll check ALL the records. So, > This excuse is not nearly good enough for me. Believe me, I totally agree! That would be a lame excuse, but it was all that I could think of. It is beyond my comprehension why these folks wouldn't want the world to know where to find their products!!!! This is exactly why I took it upon myself to start the Hitchhiker's Guide to Elongated Coins, and DO NOT make mention of any particular manufacturer's name! This topic ties into another important issue that has been on my mind: There are now a few different Elongated Coin Machine Locators on the Web. As well as new machine findings being posted on this Mailing List. As many of you know, I am presently a candidate for TEC President (election to be held at the TEC meeting in conjunction with the ANA convention, on August first). If I am fortunate to be elected, I will have the power to create the master EC locator on TEC's own official web site (to be hosted by the ANA). This locator will have a form to fill out for all new finds, which will help make updating a snap :) I sincerely hope that we can ALL pool together, setting egos aside (myself included), and create THE ULTIMATE ELONGATED COIN WEBSITE. This would free up our individual website's precious space by eliminating what we consider "common knowledge" information (aren't links the greatest). This may all seem a bit premature, but if the ball does land in my hands... I want to be ready to run with it! All those (Internet active TEC members)interested in being part of a subcommittee for this project, please email me DIRECTLY. Even if I do not win the election, This is a MUST DO project for TEC. So please consider this "Food for Thought". -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Location keepers Date: 21 Jul 1997 20:31:12 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 21 Jul 1997, Alan KITA wrote: > OK, this is my first posting after lurking for about two weeks. For Welcome aboard Alan. You've taken the first step towards obsession 8-) > Park Zoo in Colorado Springs and the Honolulu Zoo. The Empire State > Building is the most costliest and is pressed by hand. What are they charging at the Empire State Building? > I read somewhere that storing these pennies in slide holders is the > best, since some of these pages have places where you can write. I'm not really sure what you mean by "slide holders". I use cardboard 2x2s that I order through TEC. I keep my trade stock in boxes and put my collection in plastic binder sheets that have 20 slots per page. The 2x2s give you plenty of surface area to write on. > Can somebody tell me if any of the "location keepers" have sites or a > list they can email me? I have the URL for David Tomita's Disneyland Well, let's see what I can do here: Hitchhiker's Guide to Elongated Coins (a TEC project sponsored by Willy Massey and Luck 'E' Penny): http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm The Smashed Coin Locator (hosted by Bert Creighton): http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html The WDW Penny Locator (maintained by Kenny Cottrell): http://www.wdn.com/dwills/penny.htm And, of course, David Tomita's NEW home page: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Shores/3599 > Now, I will keep track of each location. Wonderful! When you see a 'new' machine you can either post it directly to the list or send it off to these Location Keepers. I usually post it directly to the list as both Bert and Willy are subscribers, and it's simply easier. Besides, the list gets it into peoples hands right away, whereas the pages need to be updated. Don't get me wrong, I think the pages are fantastic! They keep me from having to keep track of this stuff myself 8-) Also, while you're surfing, check out ...'s The Penny Page at: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/ I think that's everyone with a page. If I missed any, I'm sure someone will post it (PLEASE) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ... <...> Subject: (elongates) Hey everyone! I'm back! Date: 21 Jul 1997 22:41:18 -0500 It's been a long couple of weeks! My e-mail was down and just when I = thought it was fixed, I went on vacation. I thought everything was = working fine, but when I got home there was not even ONE message for me. = That's when I knew there was a BIG problem. But...now I'm all set to go! Anyone trying to get a hold of me to trade can e-mail me now. Please let me know if I missed anything in the club. Anyone new to the club can e-mail me for my list of trades, and don't = forget to check out my home page: = http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage I'm so glad to be home. The only coin I got on my vacation was from = Niagara Falls and I have a few to trade. Thanks! ... trueWeb Design ... http://www.truewebdesign.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine companies (Long but important!) Date: 21 Jul 1997 20:50:53 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 21 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > > > > > Concerning info from the machine makers: Give it up! > Chris Aahz wrote: > > I don't give up anything easily 8-) > > > If this is their reason, then they have no clue how the IRS > Believe me, I totally agree! That would be a lame excuse, but it was > all that I could think of. It is beyond my comprehension why these > folks wouldn't want the world to know where to find their products!!!! > This is exactly why I took it upon myself to start the Hitchhiker's > Guide to Elongated Coins, and DO NOT make mention of any particular > manufacturer's name! It's also why so many of us believe it to be an idea whose time has come. Getting the info direct from the companies will only make the Guide that much more useful to people. Obviously, not everyone's going to be able to write off for a copy of the companies lists even if they WERE readily available. However, if there's ONE place, or ONE book, or whatever that contains all the info, they'll go for that. I support the Guide 150%! > As many of you know, I am presently a candidate for TEC President > (election to be held at the TEC meeting in conjunction with the ANA > convention, on August first). Ya know, I THOUGHT this was the case, but there has not been a single mention of the election in TEC News. Why is this? Aren't ALL members supposed to have the opportunity to vote, wether they're at the meeting or not? Well, you would've had my vote, but since I never got a ballot I'm just going to cast my vote here: _____ I I I X I William C. Massey - TEC president. I---I > If I am fortunate to be elected, I will have the power to create the > master EC locator on TEC's own official web site (to be hosted by the > ANA). This locator will have a form to fill out for all new finds, > which will help make updating a snap :) This web site idea is a MUST have! I strongly encourage anyone attending the TEC meeting to talk this up, vote for it, whatever. The form idea is a great one. Would this automatically (and immediately) update the Locator? > I sincerely hope that we can > ALL pool together, setting egos aside (myself included), and create THE > ULTIMATE ELONGATED COIN WEBSITE. This would free up our individual > website's precious space by eliminating what we consider "common > knowledge" information (aren't links the greatest). > I wasn't aware of any ego trips going on here 8-( I post my machine "finds" to the list for two simple reasons: 1) Instant transfer of information to all interested parties, and 2) It's a lot simpler to post to the list then to each individual who is keeping a Locator page. The more Elongated pages the merrier in my opinion. And that goes for locators as well. Different people will "stumble across" different pages. The more that exist, the easier it is for people to find them. Each person maintaining such a page would certainly benefit by sharing info with the others. I created this mailing list to be just such a forum. I hope it continues to be of use. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Hey everyone! I'm back! Date: 21 Jul 1997 21:10:28 -0700 Kathy, Welcome Back! When you get a free cycle, could you send us the location of the Niagara Falls machine... Hmm, I seem to remember an old 3 Stooges routine that had to do with Niagara Falls (sloooooowly I turned, step by step...8-) Things you'll want to catch up on are" 1) Steelies (they're OK in Eurolink machines, watch out for machines with magnetic catchers that will remove ferrous coins), 2) Big Al in Florida getting complete DisneyWorld sets for (is it?) 5 of us... 3) a 1st meeting of this list at Disneyland to trade coins/stories and smash some new coins, 4) working on the San Francisco and Aloha Penny Machine companies to answer our requests for locations/information and 5) counterstamping coins (and then smashing them). I may have left out a few topics, but those are the main ones... Glad you're back. For all those new to the list, I encourage you to check out Kathy's web site. Bert On 7/21/97 8:41 PM ... (... ) wrote >The only coin I got on my vacation was from Niagara Falls and I have a few >to trade ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) Location Keeper Update Date: 21 Jul 1997 21:30:56 -0700 Greetings All, Welcome to Alan Kita, glad you joined the list! If we can help in any way just ask. I want to thank Alan for the machine locations. I will get them up on my pages soon. A brief update... I have added/updated the following new pages: 1) New Las Vegas Page: http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/Las_Vegas.html 2) New Laughlin (Nevada) Page: http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/Laughlin.html 3) New Barstow Page: http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/Barstow.html (need some details on this one...) 4) New Pizmo Beach Page: http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/Pizmo_Beach.html 5) New Connecticut Page: http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/Connecticut.html 6) Updated Fort Worth Page: http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/Texas.html In the last 60 days, I have added major updates to the California and Hawaii pages. Still to come: Colorado, New York and several other states. The easiest way to navigate around is to start at the Smashed Coin Locator page: Thanks to everyone for posting locations to me and to the list! bc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: (elongates) Machine companies (Now even Longer, but important!) Date: 22 Jul 1997 01:30:56 -0700 Chris Aahz wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > > > > On Sun, 20 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > > > > > > > Concerning info from the machine makers: Give it up! > > > Chris Aahz wrote: > > > I don't give up anything easily 8-) > > > > > If this is their reason, then they have no clue how the IRS > > > Believe me, I totally agree! That would be a lame excuse, but it was > > all that I could think of. It is beyond my comprehension why these > > folks wouldn't want the world to know where to find their products!!!! > > This is exactly why I took it upon myself to start the Hitchhiker's > > Guide to Elongated Coins, and DO NOT make mention of any particular > > manufacturer's name! > > It's also why so many of us believe it to be an idea whose time > has come. Getting the info direct from the companies will only make the > Guide that much more useful to people. Obviously, not everyone's going > to be able to write off for a copy of the companies lists even if they > WERE readily available. However, if there's ONE place, or ONE book, or > whatever that contains all the info, they'll go for that. I support the > Guide 150%! When I firt announced that I would take on the task of compiling the guide, in a TEC newsletter article, Both Coin World and the Numismatic News published my article without solicitation. I then sent copies of the articles along with requests for machine locations to all of the major rolling machine producers.... none of which responded. I followed up with phone calls which were met with unpleasant resistance... I have tried! So, More power to you... I wish you better luck. > > > As many of you know, I am presently a candidate for TEC President > > (election to be held at the TEC meeting in conjunction with the ANA > > convention, on August first). > > Ya know, I THOUGHT this was the case, but there has not been a > single mention of the election in TEC News. Why is this? It seems like the last couple of issues have been a bit slow getting to press. Corey Wylde is doing it ALL by himself! I'm sure he's doing the best that he can. > Aren't ALL > members supposed to have the opportunity to vote, wether they're at the > meeting or not? Unfortunatly, not at this time... Only members present at the meeting may vote. Perhaps this is something which should be ammended? > > If I am fortunate to be elected, I will have the power to create the > > master EC locator on TEC's own official web site (to be hosted by the > > ANA). This locator will have a form to fill out for all new finds, > > which will help make updating a snap :) > > Would this automatically (and immediately) > update the Locator? That's the plan! I have my Webmaster Guru looking into it right now! We are going to try it out on my HHG... With my bad back, I've had a rough time updating lately (this, combined with the scattered bits of information that some folks send, slows the process even further). > > > I sincerely hope that we can > > ALL pool together, setting egos aside (myself included), and create THE > > ULTIMATE ELONGATED COIN LOCATOR. This would free up our individual > > website's precious space by eliminating what we consider "common > > knowledge" information (aren't links the greatest). > > > I wasn't aware of any ego trips going on here 8-( Nor am I... I was refering to the fact that all of the people responsable for thier Internet EC Locators should certainly be proud of their efforts and the joy that they have brought to so many of us collectors. And I'm just hoping that we can pool together for the greater good, by sharing all the information. I post my > machine "finds" to the list for two simple reasons: 1) Instant transfer > of information to all interested parties, and 2) It's a lot simpler to > post to the list then to each individual who is keeping a Locator page. Yes! This is what I'm talking about.... Share the knowledge! > The more Elongated pages the merrier in my opinion. I couldn't agree more! > And that > goes for locators as well. That may well be for now... But in my opinion, it WOULD be a lot of wasted effort if there WAS one ultimate directory that ALL EC related web pages pointed to that listed EC machine locations. I, for one, would like to use my time and webspace for information that can't be found elsewhere, and not for posting machine locations that should be posted by the manufacturers themselves. Different people will "stumble across" different > pages. The more that exist, the easier it is for people to find them. > Each person maintaining such a page would certainly benefit by sharing > info with the others. I created this mailing list to be just such a > forum. I hope it continues to be of use. I see your mailing list as PRICELESS! Along with Kathy's message board, this forum has proven an absolute joy for me personally. --Willy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine companies (Now much shorter!) Date: 21 Jul 1997 22:31:38 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > When I firt announced that I would take on the task of compiling the > guide, in a TEC newsletter article, Both Coin World and the Numismatic > News published my article without solicitation. I then sent copies of > the articles along with requests for machine locations to all of the > major rolling machine producers.... none of which responded. I followed > up with phone calls which were met with unpleasant resistance... I have > tried! So, More power to you... I wish you better luck. > Well, we shall try. Do you have any company addresses that I did not list in my 'mega-message'? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Location keepers Date: 22 Jul 1997 01:41:32 -0700 > On Mon, 21 Jul 1997, Alan KITA wrote: > > > Can somebody tell me if any of the "location keepers" have sites or a > > list they can email me? I have the URL for David Tomita's Disneyland Chris Aahz wrote: > Well, let's see what I can do here: > > Hitchhiker's Guide to Elongated Coins (a TEC project sponsored by > Willy Massey and Luck 'E' Penny): Willy writes: This is not exactly true. My HHG has NO official affiliation with TEC! Although, I do hope to turn the project over to TEC as soon as their Official Website is up and running. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine companies (Now much shorter!) Date: 22 Jul 1997 01:52:57 -0700 Chris Aahz wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > > > When I firt announced that I would take on the task of compiling the > > guide, in a TEC newsletter article, Both Coin World and the Numismatic > > News published my article without solicitation. I then sent copies of > > the articles along with requests for machine locations to all of the > > major rolling machine producers.... none of which responded. I followed > > up with phone calls which were met with unpleasant resistance... I have > > tried! So, More power to you... I wish you better luck. > > > > Well, we shall try. Do you have any company addresses that I > did not list in my 'mega-message'? > > Peace, > Did you mention "Copper Memories" from Virgina Beach, VA... they are a biggie. Howard Sharkey has more complete list than I. Unfortunatly, I've been pumped up on pain pills for the past two weeks (I got rearended by a trash truck, AGAIN!) and can't really dig around my files at this time. Seems like most of my couscous hours have been swallowed up replying to email and trying to get orders out on time. --Willy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Upcoming TEC elections Date: 21 Jul 1997 22:59:42 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > > > As many of you know, I am presently a candidate for TEC President > > > (election to be held at the TEC meeting in conjunction with the ANA > > > convention, on August first). > > > > Ya know, I THOUGHT this was the case, but there has not been a > > single mention of the election in TEC News. Why is this? > > It seems like the last couple of issues have been a bit slow getting to > press. Corey Wylde is doing it ALL by himself! I'm sure he's doing the > best that he can. > My comments were not in any way meant to slight Corey. This is the first election year I have been a member, so did not know when these things were brought up. I think Corey is doing a great job as Editor! (And no, I'm not kissing up. He's not a list subscriber so won't even see this.) > > Aren't ALL > > members supposed to have the opportunity to vote, wether they're at the > > meeting or not? > > Unfortunatly, not at this time... Only members present at the meeting > may vote. Perhaps this is something which should be ammended? > Okay, this just didn't jibe with my memory si I pulled out my copy of the "Constitution and By-Laws". I'm cc-ing this to Rocky as well in hopes of some clarification from the Board. From 'The Elongated Collectors Constitution and By-Laws': ARTICLE III Officers, Governors, Governing Board SECTION 2. The President, in 1971 and in each odd numbered year thereafter, shall issue a call for nominations of officers and governors in the last issue of the official publication of the society published prior to March 1. All nominations... I have each copy of TEC News sinceFall 1996 (Volume 31, No. 4) and have seen no such call. Apparently nominations occured, I just wish I knew when (and how) this occured. Back to the 'C&B-L': SECTION 4. The Secretary shall cause the names of all such nominees who have so accepted to be printed on official ballots and shall cause one of such ballots to be mailed (At least 40 days prior to the elction year membership meeting) to each member in good standing, together with an envelope marked "Official Ballot" and addressed to the Secretary. Each envelope shall bear a different number, but the numbers selected shall be within the sole discretion of the Secretary. All Life and Regular Members in good standing shall have the right to vote. Honorary members do not have voting rights and may not hold an elective office. Voting shall be by mail only. Each voting member shall insert his ballot in said numbered envelope, apply postage, seal and mail the same. Such envelope must be postmarked at least twenty days prior to the date of the election year membership meeting in orderfor the ballot therein to be counted. The Secretary shall retain all sealed ballots unopened and, on the first day of the convention, shall deliver said ballots and a list of the envelope numbers selected to an election committee to be appointed by the President. Okay, there's more, but I believe I got the most relevant parts. All of this leads me to one question: When did this change?!? I do not have a dispute with the number of required days, etc. I understand that we all have lives outside TEC and sometimes things don't get done on time. But if only people present at the meeting get to vote, then we'vew basically thrown democracy out the window and may as well scrap the entire Constitution and By-Laws. If the Constitution was amended at the last meeting, then this is all pointless and I apologize. But I doubt that to be the case. I just want to know what happened. Actually that's not all I want. I also want o get to cast my vote! Peace, Aahz ps. 'The Elongated Collectors Constitution and By-Laws' is most likely copyrighted by TEC. The substantial quoting here is not meant as a challenge to that copyright. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Location keepers Date: 21 Jul 1997 23:01:39 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Chris Aahz wrote: > > Well, let's see what I can do here: > > > > Hitchhiker's Guide to Elongated Coins (a TEC project sponsored by > > Willy Massey and Luck 'E' Penny): > Willy writes: > This is not exactly true. My HHG has NO official affiliation with TEC! > Although, I do hope to turn the project over to TEC as soon as their > Official Website is up and running. ACK! Once again I've managed to put my foot in my keyboard. Sorry Willy. I REALLY need to start checking facts before my fingers start talking. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine companies (Now much shorter!) Date: 21 Jul 1997 23:06:37 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Chris Aahz wrote: > > Well, we shall try. Do you have any company addresses that I > > did not list in my 'mega-message'? > > > > Peace, > > > > Did you mention "Copper Memories" from Virgina Beach, VA... they are a > biggie. Nope. Never heard of 'em. > Howard Sharkey has more complete list than I. Looks like I'll have to send off a letter to Howard, then. Ya know, I want to win the lottery just so I can buy computers for everyone I have contact with that ISN'T online!! > (I got rearended by a trash truck, AGAIN!) Perhaps your car looks a little too much like a big gren dumpster 8-) Sorry, had to be said. I hope you feel better soon Willy. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Upcoming TEC elections Date: 22 Jul 1997 02:20:02 -0700 Chris Aahz wrote: > If the Constitution was amended at the last meeting, then this is > all pointless and I apologize. But I doubt that to be the case. I just > want to know what happened. Actually that's not all I want. I also want > o get to cast my vote! > Actually, the reason for this rush election is because the current TEC president is very ill and recently announced that he could not fullfill his duties for the last year of his term (which was to start Aug 1). Ray Dillard (TEC's last Pres, and current V.P.) is not able to step up. For this reason, the board nominated a couple of us to fill in in a pinch. Usually we do have mail ballots where all members vote.... please excuse me for not remembering the details when you first asked... I am in pretty rough shape at the moment. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Upcoming TEC elections Date: 21 Jul 1997 23:17:43 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Chris Aahz wrote: > > > If the Constitution was amended at the last meeting, then this is > > all pointless and I apologize. But I doubt that to be the case. I just > > want to know what happened. Actually that's not all I want. I also want > > o get to cast my vote! > > > > Actually, the reason for this rush election is because the current TEC > president is very ill and recently announced that he could not fullfill > his duties for the last year of his term (which was to start Aug 1). Ray > Dillard (TEC's last Pres, and current V.P.) is not able to step up. For > this reason, the board nominated a couple of us to fill in in a pinch. > Usually we do have mail ballots where all members vote.... please excuse > me for not remembering the details when you first asked... I am in > pretty rough shape at the moment. > -- Okay, that's a good reason. I am sorry to hear about Gus. This is all the more reason, however, to get TEC online. Then this info could be distributed to ALL the members in a timely fashion. I hope this will be mentioned in the upcoming TEC News. The reason my .sig shows me as an 'exCoinmaster' is because the officers kept changing the club without mentioning (much less discussing) thing with the members. So far, TEC has been wonderful, I just have a fear (bordering paranoia) of "Old Boys' Clubs". Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) ANA Convention trade requests Date: 21 Jul 1997 23:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Yeah, yeah, I know the list has had PLENTY of traffic tonight, but I intended to send this message before all the hullabaloo broke out. If memory serves (and it probably doesn't) there are four subscribers attending the ANA Convention in NY at the end of the month. This is an open plea to all of you. It has been mentioned that many booths will be giving away freebie coins (including elongates). These elongates will generally fall into two of my primary collecting areas: Store Cards and Coin Clubs/Shows. I will be unable to attend but am VERY interested in receiveng samples of these coins. Your assistance would be appreciated. If you're going to the con and see some stuff on my list that interests you, just let me know and I'll hold it for you until you get back from ANA. Also, I previously sent out a request for someone to collect the world coins and have them rolled with the show design. I have not received any offers on assistance on this. I will gladly pay the purchase price of the Passport you must buy, plus give trade value against my list in return for your time in collecting the coins. Plus, you can go back and re-collect all of the coins for yourself for free! I REALLY want this set. It's a VERY cool idea. Also, I'll have Disney sets available for trade in Sept. as well as any other California elongates I cna pick up in two days of searching between San Francisco and LA. So, if you don't see something on my list, there are some more possibilities. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: (elongates) Letter writing campaign idea Date: 22 Jul 1997 08:28:00 PDT The SPM is more than willing to support Aahz's venture and will equip any penny-hunter with free postcards. Just drop me a line with your snail mail address. I just had a brilliant idea. If any of you are unaware of it Pete Morelewicz is the co-founder/operator of The Squished Penny Museum in Washington D.C. as well as a list subscriber (and all around nice guy 8-). Each time I have traded with Pete he has included some beautiful postcards advertising the SPM. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA Convention trade requests Date: 22 Jul 1997 07:21:19 -0700 Greetings, On 7/21/97 11:35 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > > Also, I previously sent out a request for someone to collect the >world coins and have them rolled with the show desi Without turning this into to much effort... I too would be happy to pay the price and offer some trades for the free coins and world coins. Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) The NY convention Date: 22 Jul 1997 10:21:20 -0400 Hmmm...so I just found out the wedding is the following weekend. My wife and I are debating on coming to the convention. However, I don't think I could make it there before Saturday -- have to work on Friday. Will there still be people & coins there? Or, will I be really missing stuff by not going on Friday? - Jeff P.S. Has anyone talked with Big Al recently? I want to get the price and people firmed up. That way have him start rolling the WDW coins. :) P.S.S. If I owe you coins - please send me a reminder e-mail. I haven't been able to find my trade coin case since the move -- but should have the remaining boxes unpacked this week. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan KITA Subject: Re: (elongates) Location keepers Date: 22 Jul 1997 09:17:08 -0800 Thanks Chris for the information.... Chris Aahz wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Jul 1997, Alan KITA wrote: > > > Park Zoo in Colorado Springs and the Honolulu Zoo. The Empire State > > Building is the most costliest and is pressed by hand. > > What are they charging at the Empire State Building? > This was about three years ago and they wanted $2.00 each for someone to hand crank the machine to produce the penny. Oh, (heh,heh) they provide you with the penny! ciao, Alan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: (elongates) TEC online Date: 22 Jul 1997 13:24:00 -0400 (EDT) Hi; Just wondering, are the notes we write archived? I know that the rec.collecitng.coins etc. are. If they were in an archive, it would be a simple thing to retrieve them by keyword. -Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: (elongates) ANA Convention Date: 22 Jul 1997 14:48:39 -0400 Not that I'm totally ignorant but... When and where is the NY ANA conventions, what are the world coins, what is the passport. etc. etc. It all sounds like fun but WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Thanks tons. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: (elongates) ANA Convention Date: 22 Jul 1997 14:46:07 -0400 At the risk of sounding like an ignoramous... When and where is the NY ANA convention? Forgive my ignorance. Thanks. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: (elongates) The NY convention Date: 22 Jul 1997 16:24:00 PDT Jeff- If it's any help, I'll be at the convention for part of Saturday. -Pete Will there still be people & coins there? Or, will I be really missing stuff by not going on Friday? Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Hey everyone! I'm back! Date: 21 Jul 1997 21:19:04 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 21 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > Kathy, > > Welcome Back! Yes, welcome back. Not only was your input missed, but I'm just glad I no longer have to delete the error message generated by EVERY post to the list 8-) > 2) Big Al in Florida getting complete DisneyWorld sets for (is it?) 5 of us... I thought it was six. And I believe the price is down to around $154 (for all 201 WDW pennies). This is Jeff's project, and I believe he's on vacation this week. > 3) a 1st meeting of this list at Disneyland to trade coins/stories and smash some new coins, I don't remember the last date I posted! ARRRGGHH!!! So, I'm posting the date now: The first meeting of The Elongated Coin Mailing List will be at Disneyland on Sunday, Sept. 7th. Specifics supplied as the date approaches. > 4) working on the San Francisco and Aloha Penny Machine companies to > answer our requests for locations/information and This is a new project that I've only received one comment about (and that one negative). I feel this is important, do Bert and I stand alone here? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) List archives Date: 22 Jul 1997 16:58:19 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > Just wondering, are the notes we write archived? I know that the > rec.collecitng.coins etc. are. If they were in an archive, it would be a > simple thing to retrieve them by keyword. Well, the simple answer is: yes, the list is archived. The not-so-simple answer is: I know nothing about how majordomo (the list software) works. When I completed the form to create the list I was given the option of having the list archived. I selected this option as I thought it would be a good idea. However, I have NO idea how to access this archive. If anyone out there has such knowledge, input would be appreciated. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA Convention Date: 22 Jul 1997 17:09:06 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Mary C. and Ben L. wrote: > When and where is the NY ANA conventions, what are the world coins, what is the > passport. etc. etc. It all sounds like fun but WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? The ANA Convention will be held at the Marriott-Marquis in NYC from July 30th to Aug. 3rd. Part of the convention something called 'Mint Mile' or something similar. This is where all of the mints from around the world have booths to show off their latest goods. You can buy something called a 'Passport' that has a page for each country represented at Mint Mile with a space for its coin. What I was talking about was that previously, here on the list, someone had mentioned the idea of buying a Passport, collecting all of the coins from Mint Mile, and then taking them to the TEC booth and having the show logo rolled on them. This leaves your passport empty and you can go back to each mint and recollect the free coins. This sounds like a REALLY cool set to me. I will be unable to attend the show (I live in CA) and was begging for someone to collect such a set for me. Hope this clears things up. Peace, Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) To: Elongates Mail List Date: 22 Jul 1997 18:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! I recently realized that the ISP that hosts this list (xmission.com) also gives me a web page. Unfortunately, I have ZERO knowledge of html. Also, I use a REALLy old computer (a 286) that can't handle the necessary software to design pages. What I would like is a very simple page that would allow people to sobscribe/onsobscribe to the mailing list, access the list archives, and provide links to other elongate related pages. Anyone out there care to donate some time and knowlede to this project? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: Re: (elongates) To: Elongates Mail List Date: 22 Jul 1997 18:47:18 -0700 i can help with design and links and such, but i'm not sure how to go about setting up the clickable signup deal. -nikki -- "There's still a part of me that's 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) To: Elongates Mail List Date: 22 Jul 1997 19:00:02 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, tink!!! wrote: > i can help with design and links and such, but i'm not sure how to go > about setting up the clickable signup deal. Well, I don't know how it's done, but I do know WHERE its been done: http://www.xmission.com/~doswald/sailing/listsub.html Perhaps you can figure it out by examining the above page. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) The NY convention Date: 23 Jul 1997 00:52:46 -0700 Jeff Dixon wrote: > Will there still be people & coins there [ANA]? Or, will I be really missing > stuff by not going on Friday? > > - Jeff Ray Dillard will still be there on Saturday running the TEC booth! Ray has an awsome collection of "oldies" that he brings to the shows... even if you can't afford to buy them all, they are wonderful to view in person (they're the largest bunch of "oldies" that I've seen any dealer have available for sale). --Willy TEC 1857 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) SURVEY: Trade Lists Date: 22 Jul 1997 22:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Okay, I've posted my trade list here a few times and a couple other people have posted lists as well. In addition I have received about a dozen trade lists via e-mail and snail mail in the last six months or so. The one thing I've noticed that all of these lists have in common is: nothing. That's right, every person lists essentially different information in their trade lists (imagine that!). So, I want to know what YOU want to know. By taking a few seconds to answer the following questions (or a minute or two to add some additional comments) all of us can make our trade lists more informative (and possibly shorter at the same time). Obviously, each coin needs to have a name/number/designator of some sort for identification purposes. Beyond that do you want to know: Description of image/text? If yes, brief or complete? Orientation of image (vertical or horizontal)? Condition of coin itself? Year of coin (or approximation thereof)? Which side image is on (heads/tails)? Designer/Roller? Location of machine (if applicable)? Manufacturer of machine (if applicable)? Wether die is open/closed? Year design first rolled? Anything else I may have forgotten? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dresd85854@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 23 Jul 1997 08:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Would anyone be interested in getting a set of EC's together for someone from NJ who can't make it. Take care, Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) The NY convention Date: 23 Jul 1997 09:07:52 -0400 But, he'll have some of these at the Mass convention - right? - Jeff At 12:52 AM 7/23/97 -0700, you wrote: >Jeff Dixon wrote: > >> Will there still be people & coins there [ANA]? Or, will I be really missing >> stuff by not going on Friday? >> >> - Jeff > >Ray Dillard will still be there on Saturday running the TEC booth! Ray >has an awsome collection of "oldies" that he brings to the shows... even >if you can't afford to buy them all, they are wonderful to view in >person (they're the largest bunch of "oldies" that I've seen any dealer >have available for sale). > >--Willy >TEC 1857 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 23 Jul 1997 09:23:19 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 23 Jul 1997 Dresd85854@aol.com wrote: > Would anyone be interested in getting a set of EC's together for someone from > NJ who can't make it. > Take care, > Mark Not a problem. I intend to collect several extra sets. They'll be available at cost+postage or trade. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) The NY convention Date: 23 Jul 1997 13:38:48 -0700 I'm sure that he will! --Willy Jeff Dixon wrote: > > But, he'll have some of these at the Mass convention - right? > > - Jeff > At 12:52 AM 7/23/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Jeff Dixon wrote: > > > >> Will there still be people & coins there [ANA]? Or, will I be really > missing > >> stuff by not going on Friday? > >> > >> - Jeff > > > >Ray Dillard will still be there on Saturday running the TEC booth! Ray > >has an awsome collection of "oldies" that he brings to the shows... even > >if you can't afford to buy them all, they are wonderful to view in > >person (they're the largest bunch of "oldies" that I've seen any dealer > >have available for sale). > > > >--Willy > >TEC 1857 > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com > Software Engineer > Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com > 411 Waverley Oaks Road > Waltham, MA 02154 -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Everyone! Date: 23 Jul 1997 13:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I just subcribed to this list. My name is Liz, I go to SSU in MD, but spend the summers at home in south NJ. I have been collection elongated pennies seriously for about 5 years. I have the typical tourest type pennies from Boston Museam of Science, Maryland Museam of Science, The Franklin Institute, Seattle, MT. Hood, NY, and Atlantic City NJ. Most of these I cranked them out myself... But some were bought at flea markets and I have no idea where they are from!!! I have an incomplet set of Zodiac pennies...I need Leo and Taurus. The bad news is that I have no doubles...so I could buy them. If there is any info on thes Zodiac penies...please let me know... Here are some other strainge pennies: 805th T. D. BN. SEEK STRIKE DESTROY 1984 This has a picture of a cat biting a tank. Religious Symbols This has no words, just many different religious symbols including: cross, ying-yang, star of david, moon and star, flower, and others that I don't recognize. JACK & PEG WILCOX CHRISTMAS WISHES FROM N.J. 1978 This has a picture of father christmas with a tree and bag of presents. THE FOX FOREVER This has a picture of a running fox with "wsa" in tiny letter o the left end. I have no clue about this one. Let me know if you have any info on these pennies... Thanks! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROCKY ROCKHOLT" Subject: RE: (elongates) Upcoming TEC elections Date: 22 Jul 1997 20:18:16 UT I am not aware that the TEC Board of Directors has appointed anyone as candidates for the forthcoming election. Nor am I aware that the current president has announced that he will be unable to fulfill his unexpired term of office. While this may be true, I am not aware of his condition being so serious to necessitate that action. It has been my experience that those folks attending the annual meets have, in the past, elected the slate of officers and directors. It is probably not the way the bylaws call for the election to be handled but that is how it had been done. I suggest that anyone attending that annual meeting bring the question up from the floor and get it handled with those officers and directors in attendance. Unfortunately, I will not be attending. Please keep me in the loop! Rocky Rockholt -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 1:18 AM Cc: ROCKY ROCKHOLT On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Chris Aahz wrote: > > > If the Constitution was amended at the last meeting, then this is > > all pointless and I apologize. But I doubt that to be the case. I just > > want to know what happened. Actually that's not all I want. I also want > > o get to cast my vote! > > > > Actually, the reason for this rush election is because the current TEC > president is very ill and recently announced that he could not fullfill > his duties for the last year of his term (which was to start Aug 1). Ray > Dillard (TEC's last Pres, and current V.P.) is not able to step up. For > this reason, the board nominated a couple of us to fill in in a pinch. > Usually we do have mail ballots where all members vote.... please excuse > me for not remembering the details when you first asked... I am in > pretty rough shape at the moment. > -- Okay, that's a good reason. I am sorry to hear about Gus. This is all the more reason, however, to get TEC online. Then this info could be distributed to ALL the members in a timely fashion. I hope this will be mentioned in the upcoming TEC News. The reason my .sig shows me as an 'exCoinmaster' is because the officers kept changing the club without mentioning (much less discussing) thing with the members. So far, TEC has been wonderful, I just have a fear (bordering paranoia) of "Old Boys' Clubs". Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Birchard Subject: (elongates) Hello Date: 23 Jul 1997 14:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Hi, I've just subscribed to this list. Just wanted to say "hello". I've been collecting for, oh, around 10 years now. I haven't been very active lately, though maybe this list will help. Well, that's all for now. I hope to see some traffic here. Matt Birchard TEC# 1848 Portland, Oregon USA e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 23 Jul 1997 19:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Please note: The Main Street Train Station and Pirates of the Caribbean EC roller requires the coin to be placed facing the opposite direciton of other machines in the park i.e. face right. Also the Train Station machine may require a swift kick or "rock and roll" before it will let go of the goods :-). The machine number 526, Snow White, Wicked Witch, and Bashful is down. :- ( The park tells me it will be up in a day or two. (I will follow up on this). If there is any machine that is down when the group "lands" at the park, I'll run some pickups of the missing coins for cost and postage when the machines are up. -Bob Hoff TEC #2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) The NY convention Date: 23 Jul 1997 22:11:38 -0400 Jeff Dixon wrote: > > But, he'll have some of these at the Mass convention - right? If you're referring to the NENA Conference and Convention in Marlborough, MA on 22-23 August, the answer is YES. However, an ANA Convention is an Event, and not to be missed if you have an opportunity to attend. Regards, Bob Fritsch rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Everyone! Date: 23 Jul 1997 22:15:50 -0700 Liz wrote: > If there is any info on these... > > 805th T. D. BN. SEEK STRIKE DESTROY 1984 > This has a picture of a cat biting a tank. JACK WILCOX (TEC #332) had commissioned Frank Brazzell to roll commemorative elongated coins for his military reunions for quite a few years in a row--The coin you describe is one of them. Interestingly enough, I am producing the 805th T.D. BN reunion coin for this year's gathering--It depicts a pack-mule and soldier, and features a barbed-wire border. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Rocky's response to Election comments Date: 23 Jul 1997 19:12:16 -0700 (PDT) I received the following message from Rocky Rockholt, TEC Director today. I have left the entirety of the previous messages attached for anyone interested. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Cc: ROCKY ROCKHOLT I am not aware that the TEC Board of Directors has appointed anyone as candidates for the forthcoming election. Nor am I aware that the current president has announced that he will be unable to fulfill his unexpired term of office. While this may be true, I am not aware of his condition being so serious to necessitate that action. It has been my experience that those folks attending the annual meets have, in the past, elected the slate of officers and directors. It is probably not the way the bylaws call for the election to be handled but that is how it had been done. I suggest that anyone attending that annual meeting bring the question up from the floor and get it handled with those officers and directors in attendance. Unfortunately, I will not be attending. Please keep me in the loop! Rocky Rockholt -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 1:18 AM Cc: ROCKY ROCKHOLT On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Chris Aahz wrote: > > > If the Constitution was amended at the last meeting, then this is > > all pointless and I apologize. But I doubt that to be the case. I just > > want to know what happened. Actually that's not all I want. I also want > > o get to cast my vote! > > > > Actually, the reason for this rush election is because the current TEC > president is very ill and recently announced that he could not fullfill > his duties for the last year of his term (which was to start Aug 1). Ray > Dillard (TEC's last Pres, and current V.P.) is not able to step up. For > this reason, the board nominated a couple of us to fill in in a pinch. > Usually we do have mail ballots where all members vote.... please excuse > me for not remembering the details when you first asked... I am in > pretty rough shape at the moment. > -- Okay, that's a good reason. I am sorry to hear about Gus. This is all the more reason, however, to get TEC online. Then this info could be distributed to ALL the members in a timely fashion. I hope this will be mentioned in the upcoming TEC News. The reason my .sig shows me as an 'exCoinmaster' is because the officers kept changing the club without mentioning (much less discussing) thing with the members. So far, TEC has been wonderful, I just have a fear (bordering paranoia) of "Old Boys' Clubs". Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: RE: (elongates) Upcoming TEC elections Date: 23 Jul 1997 19:25:09 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, ROCKY ROCKHOLT wrote: > I am not aware that the TEC Board of Directors has appointed anyone as > candidates for the forthcoming election. Nor am I aware that the current > president has announced that he will be unable to fulfill his unexpired term > of office. While this may be true, I am not aware of his condition being so > serious to necessitate that action. Well, if you got your TEC News today as I did, then you should be aware of it now. It was quite a shock to me (as is evident from my prior messages). Howard's column mentions briefly that all of the officers have "agreed to renomination" except for Gus and that Willy will be running. It also mentions that nominations will remain open until election time. My concern has not been over the nominations made, but rather of the appearance of things happening "behind closed doors" in contradiction of the Constitution and by-laws. > > It has been my experience that those folks attending the annual meets have, in > the past, elected the slate of officers and directors. It is probably not the > way the bylaws call for the election to be handled but that is how it had been > done. I had the opposite impression. My first exposure to TEC was a sample copy of the '95 convention issue. And if memory serves (which it may well not) it came with a ballot and 'numbered envelope' as mentioned in the constitution. I did not vote, of course, as I was not a member at the time, but just checking out the club. > I suggest that anyone attending that annual meeting bring the question up from > the floor and get it handled with those officers and directors in attendance. > Unfortunately, I will not be attending. > I agree. This is an issue that should be resolved one way or the other. I will not be able to attend either (New York's a long way for me), but would really like to have this situation resolved. There are MANY members who will be unable to attend the meeting. I feel they should still have a vote. This message is being crossposted to The Elongated Coin Mailing List which has many subscribers who will be attending, so hopefully one (or more) of them will bring this up. > Please keep me in the loop! > Will do Rocky. I have forwarded both your response and this message to the Mialing List and will continue to do so until the thread dies (or you join the list ) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) 805th T.D. BN elongates Date: 23 Jul 1997 19:32:36 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Liz wrote: > > If there is any info on these... > > > > 805th T. D. BN. SEEK STRIKE DESTROY 1984 > > This has a picture of a cat biting a tank. > > JACK WILCOX (TEC #332) had commissioned Frank Brazzell to roll I just LOVE this list 8-) I am planning on posting several elongates for attribution help, and the '92 issue of this coin was one of them. Now I know without having to ask! I am left with one question, however. What does the BN stand for? I'm assuming (now) that T.D. is 'Tank Division', but what's the BN. for? Battalion? Hmmm....that doesn't seem to work. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) 805th T.D. BN elongates Date: 23 Jul 1997 22:53:44 -0700 Chris Aahz wrote: > I just LOVE this list 8-) I am planning on posting several > elongates for attribution help, and the '92 issue of this coin was one of > them. Now I know without having to ask! > > I am left with one question, however. What does the BN stand > for? I'm assuming (now) that T.D. is 'Tank Division', but what's the BN. > for? Battalion? Hmmm....that doesn't seem to work. Actually Chris, The T.D. is for "Tank Destroyer", but yes, BN is for Battalion. --Willy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Everyone! Date: 23 Jul 1997 20:07:12 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 23 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > Hi, I just subcribed to this list. My name is Liz, Welcome to the list, Liz! > I go to SSU in MD, but If you're back in Maryland by August 15th, you might want to check out the MSNA convention. They're issueing elongates commemorating the show and Ray Dillard will apparently be there. From what I hear he always brings a large number of elongates to the shows as well as rolling the official coins. If you want contact info for the show, just ask and I'll send it private e-mail (unless of course, numerous people from the list are interestd). > spend the summers at home in south NJ. Which means you can attend the ANA convention in NY!!! If you'd like to get more involved in elongates I HIGHLY recommend attending. > have no idea where they are from!!! I have an incomplet set of Zodiac > pennies...I need Leo and Taurus. The bad news is that I have no doubles...so > I could buy them. If there is any info on thes Zodiac penies...please let me > know... Well, I posted this to The Penny Page, but I'll repeat it here as well: check out http://members.aol.com/BKornoleje/index.html Bill's got some Zodiacs available. It is important to note, however, that there have been numerous zodiac sets issued. I have a Gemini with a couple copulating and have seen a set with the name and symbol at the top, a line drawing of the standard picture in the center, and the dates and planet symbol at the bottom. What do yours look like. > Here are some other strainge pennies: > Let me know if you have any info on these pennies... Sorry, don't know anything about these 8-( Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 23 Jul 1997 20:13:34 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 23 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > The Main Street Train Station and Pirates of the Caribbean EC roller requires > the coin to be placed facing the opposite direciton of other machines in the > park i.e. face right. Also the Train Station machine may require a swift > kick or "rock and roll" before it will let go of the goods :-). Thanx for the tips! This is good info to know in advance. > The machine number 526, Snow White, Wicked Witch, and Bashful is down. :- ( > The park tells me it will be up in a day or two. (I will follow up on this). Well according to those on the Disney newsgroups the park typically gets the machines fixed with a day if not hours. My experience at Paramount's Great America has been that one or two complaints and the machines get fixed mighty quick. > If there is any machine that is down when the group "lands" at the park, I'll > run some pickups of the missing coins for cost and postage when the machines > are up. Hopefully we will not need to take you up on this, but I appreciate the offer and will keep it in mind. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Subscription Page is UP!!! Date: 23 Jul 1997 21:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations!! With many thanx to ..., the sobscribe/onsobscribe page is up and working!! (Yes those words are misspelled intentionally. Otherwise the message gets sent to list-owner). The URL for the page is: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm So, if when you talk up the list, be sure to pass on this URL. Willy has already offered to link from his page to this one. I hope others with pages will do the same. While you're out surfing be sure to check out Kathy's Penny Page (just remove 'listsub.htm' from the above url)!! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) New TEC News Date: 23 Jul 1997 22:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! I arrived home tonight to be welcomed by the new issue of TEC News, and thought I would give a review of sorts here. My first two impressions brought disappointment: 1) My article about the internet was not published 8-(, and 2) there was no free coin! Did mine just get lost in the mail or did none of you receive a freebie with this issue? Overall, the issue looks great! The new 'image' Corey has designed makes for very pleasurable reading. I do miss seeing the TEC owl at the top of each page though. Gus's column is another sad note as he announces what Willy told all of us a few days ago, that he is stepping down due to ill health. He also is the first (of several in this ish) to put out the call for exhibitors at ANA. Pete, are you officially an exhibitor? Exhibiting at Coin Shows is a VERY important part of building the hobby. No, I haven't done so yet, either, but I'm working on it. If TEC can show ANA that there is enough interest in elongates they will begin awarding a "Dottie Dow Award" to the best elongated exhibitor at each ANA convention. This would be great for the hobby as well as giving Dottie her due. If it weren't for her there may very well have been no TEC and no reference works for collectors. Corey's Column (From The Editor) has a few high points. He furthers the push for getting TEC online, devoting over half his column to this topic. He also mentions Big Al's page for WDW sets which I found ironic. The big news in this column is the huzzah he gives The Squished Penny Museum and their Centinel. (Congrat's Pete and Christine) He also mentions a new elongate club in Virginia, but doesn't give any contact info. Anyone know anything about this club? Corey also mentions that he received no feedback from the ads he ran in the last TEC News. It is important to read the classifieds page in TEC News and support your fellow members. Ray Dillard's article on the 1996 ANA Convention was still interesting even a year late! (It got misplaced, but was recently rediscovered). This article made me all the more sad I am unable to attend this year. Ray also mentions the need for exhibitors. The last paragraph mentions that 'the world's rarest elongated coin was displayed in its revolving display case'. Anyone know what coin this is? I would assume it is the Wein 1818 Angelo is always advertising for, can anyone confirm or deny? Hearsay from Howard deals with convention issues and is the only place this years election is really mentioned (other than the nominee statements). His explanation is very brief and pales next to the one that Willy provided the list. All of the convention issues are presented (and pictured). They're cute, but I much prefer the 1995 ANA NUMISmagic coins. Personally I like Mark Mears' concept of the owl King King. This sounds really cool! Martin's Mutterings covers several topics (as usual --- I love the way Lee writes 8-). Sadly, he mentions that he is leaving the 'net (I never knew he was on it!) He mentions that he received zero samples of colored elongates in response to his request in the last issue. Has anyone ever colored an elongate? I've never actually seen one, though I have heard of them. What do people use to do this? Paint? Markers? Jess Kirby weighed in with part one of an article about selling elongates. Some very good advice here for anyone interested in generating more income to spend on their collection. Last, but not least, Peter Johnson has an article about what the TEC website should look like. It was a good article, but I think mine would have been more informative to more members (of course, I'm biased). That just about covers it. There are several good ads in the Classifieds, including one for the mailing list. Let's hope it gets us some new subscribers! Well, now you non-TEC members know what you missed this time around. Don't miss another issue, join TEC today! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) MY Internet article intended for TEC News Date: 23 Jul 1997 22:09:58 -0700 (PDT) The Elongated Internet By Chris Aahz (TEC #2062) E-Mail:Aahz@svpal.org The 104 year old hobby of collecting elongated coins is finally moving into the electronic age. When I received my original TEC membership package in December it spurred me on to check out the Internet for resources on elongated coins. I was sorely dissapointed. Now, approximately six months later, there a numerous sites for elongated coins and more are appearing on a fairly constant basis. The Spring '97 issue of TEC News contained an article by Larry Feit (#1795) proposing that TEC set up a web page with a launch date of January 1, 1998. This is a magnificent idea. He even offered to host the web page himself. This is a major commitment and he should be applauded for his willingness to bring TEC into the 21st Century. There is no reason I can see for TEC not to take advantage of his offer. I 'meet' people on a regular basis on-line who are looking for more information on elongated coins. It would be wonderful to give them a web address in addition to a postal address for them to get information. Many people are much more likely to enter a few keystrokes into a computer then they are to write and send a letter by hand. What's available on the 'net now? Plenty. The first place I encountered elongates on-line was in the rec.disney.parks newsgroups. These newsgroups are primarily an area for people to discuss their trips to the various Disney parks. Elongates (they call them pressed pennies) have been discussed quite a bit in these newsgroups. Their focus is pretty tight dealing only with Disney elongates, particularly machine locations within the parks and surrounding hotels. If you're planning a trip to a Disney Park you might want to drop in here and get the latest info. Through the Disney newsgroups I found complete lists of machine locations at both Disneyland and Disney World/Epcot. Al Lutz' Disneyland Information Guide - Pressed Pennies includes not only current machine locations, but also tips on polishing and organizing your elongates and other uses for them. He also includes lists of other souvenir coins/tokens and discontnued elongates. For Disney World you'll want to check out Kenny Cottrell's WDW - Penny Press Guide. This site contains five seperate lists of machine locations: The Magic Kingdom, Epcot Center, Disney-MGM Studios, Resort Hotels and the 25th Anniversary Quarters. (All site addresses are listed at end of article) Willy Massey (TEC #1857) has taken Luck 'E' Penny online. The largest elongated site on the internet, Willy has posted a lot of general information on elongates, a reproduction of the TEC Membership application, and offers numerous elongates for sale including a few special deals for netizens. This is also the current home of The Hitchiker's Guide to Elongated Coin Machines. This is probably the best place to point people who are new to elongates. The Smashed Penny Locator is maintained by Bert Creighton and lists more than 40 locations with elongated cent machines complete with maps. Additional information here includes materials content of both US and Canadian cents, the TEC address, penny trivia, and links to other coin sites (for both elongated and traditional coins). Allan & Jen's Digital Fridge is the homepage of Allan and Jen Daly. Amongst the personal information on the couple (and their dog, Wally) is Allan's Smashed Penny Collection. This site currently contains machine locations and images for a dozen different elongated coins. My personal favorite site is The Penny Page hosted by Kathy ... (TEC #2085). Started as a way to learn more about the internet, The Penny Page has blossomed into a beautiful site. While slim on general information, those already familiar with elongated coins will find plenty here to enjoy. Kathy has scanned nearly 100 elongates and posted the images here. She is also adding more on a fairly regular basis. Just one small click away from the main page is the Message Board. Here, visitors can post questions or comments regarding elongated coins and get feedback from others. Messages remain here semi-permanently so new visitors can see what has been discussed in the past. Topics have included machine locations, trade offers, and what coins work best for elongates. Those who collect elongates 'on site' have surely encountered the name Eurolink. Possibly the largest supplier of elongated coin machines to tourist locations, Eurolink now has a hom page as well. Unfortunately, this site suffers the same fate as most corporate sponsored pages: plenty of hype, little substance. Although they have included links to many of their clients, I found little of use here. They also include a link to allow visitors to send the company e-mail, but I have found them unresponsive thus far. Last, but certainly not least, I am in the process of establishing an e-mail mailing list dedicated to elongated coins. Web pages are generally static in that only the host can change what information is provided (The Penny Page's Message Board being the exception to this rule). If you want to see if any new information has been has been added since your last visit, you must revisit the site. Mailing lists, on the other hand, are dynamic and fully interactive. Essentially a mailing list allows subscribers to send a message to one address and have it automatically forwarded to everyone subscribed to the list. Do not be fooled by the word "subscriber": there is no cost to sign up for this service. While the list should be active by the time you read this, I was unable to confirm the list address before publication deadline. If you are interested in the mailing list send me e-mail at Aahz@svpal.org Hopefully, this article has helped our connected members to find a new online resource or two. Perhaps, it will even be the impetus for some of those who are not yet 'on the net' to step into the electronic age. If you have any questions about the internet in general, or these sites in particular, feel free to write and I will do my best to answer them. Also, if you are aware of any online resources not mentioned above, please drop me a line either electronically or on paper. Chris Aahz 925 Ravenscourt Ave #2 San Jose, CA 95128 Addresses of mentioned sites: Disneyland Information Guide - Pressed Pennies: http://members.aol.com/alweho/docs/penny.htm WDW - Penny Press Guide: http://www.wdn.com/dwills/penny.htm Luck 'E' Penny: http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm Smashed Coin Locator: http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html Allan's Smashed Penny Collection: http://www.ced.berkeley.edu/~adaly/smashed_pennies/pennies.html The Penny Page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/ Eurolink: http://www.thegrid.net/eurolink/pennies.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) New TEC News Date: 24 Jul 1997 01:52:31 -0700 Chris Aahz wrote: > > Greetings & Salutations! > > I arrived home tonight to be welcomed by the new issue of TEC > News, and thought I would give a review of sorts here. > > I do miss seeing the TEC owl at the top of each page though. Drop him an email! I'm with you on this one!!! > > Gus's column is another sad note as he announces what Willy told > all of us a few days ago, that he is stepping down due to ill health. He > also is the first (of several in this ish) to put out the call for > exhibitors at ANA. Pete, are you officially an exhibitor? Pete, you should contact Simpka (from MCCC - link on my page). He is a multiple award winning exhibitor at ANA conventions (non elongated), and also judges some of the categories... he could certainly let you know it it is still possible to get your exhibit in THE BIG SHOW. > He also mentions a new elongate club in Virginia, but doesn't give any contact > info. Anyone know anything about this club? That would be Copper Memories. They make the vending type machines for much of the South East. It's funny... they wouldn't give me the time of day when requesting info on their machine locations, but now they are willing to sell that info for $19.95 per year. I can't bring myself to support this "club" by revealing their specific address... however, since you are my friends... they are located in Virginia Beach, Va. >.... The last paragraph mentions that 'the world's rarest elongated coin was displayed > in its revolving display case'. Anyone know what coin this is? I would > assume it is the Wein 1818 Angelo is always advertising for, can anyone > confirm or deny? Nope! It's just some coin that Rosoto rolled only one of, and then cancelled the die. The die read "world's rarest elongated". While no elongated issue could be rarer than an issue of just one... many folks have done the same thing. > Martin's Mutterings covers several topics (as usual --- I love > the way Lee writes 8-). Sadly, he mentions that he is leaving the 'net > (I never knew he was on it!) He mentions that he received zero samples > of colored elongates in response to his request in the last issue. Has > anyone ever colored an elongate? I've never actually seen one, though I > have heard of them. What do people use to do this? Paint? Markers? Some use paint, others use paint markers to color over elongated coins. I don't really care much for colored elongateds (I'm more the purest). However, TEC's enamaled elongated silver quarters are AWESOME!--Too bad I don't own any :( --Willy TEC 1857 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) "Yesterday's Elongateds" at bargain price Date: 23 Jul 1997 22:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Just a quick note to let everyone know that Angros Enterprises is offering "Yesterday's Elongateds" for only $30 including postage! This a great price! I recently purchased a copy for $45 and found it to be more than worth the price. For any who don't know, "Yesterday's Elongateds" is a wonderful book by Dottie Dow and Lee Martin. It catalogs nearly all of the elongated coins issued between 1893 and 1965 with illustrations of all but five or six. If you have any interest in older elongates (especially World's Fair issues then this book is a must have. And I sincerely doubt you'll ever find it at a cheaper price. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) New TEC News Date: 23 Jul 1997 22:51:37 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > > I do miss seeing the TEC owl at the top of each page though. > > Drop him an email! I'm with you on this one!!! Just finished doing just that. Do you know if the owl has a name? If not, he needs one. > > He also mentions a new elongate club in Virginia, but doesn't give any contact > > That would be Copper Memories. They make the vending type machines for Not that I doubt you, Willy. But do you know this for sure, or are just assuming based on location? > > anyone ever colored an elongate? I've never actually seen one, though I > > have heard of them. What do people use to do this? Paint? Markers? > > Some use paint, others use paint markers to color over elongated coins. > I don't really care much for colored elongateds (I'm more the purest). Gotta sign off, I believe I just may have some of those paint markers in a box nearby... Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) New TEC News Date: 24 Jul 1997 02:08:55 -0700 Chris Aahz wrote: > > > > He also mentions a new elongate club in Virginia, but doesn't give any contact > > > > That would be Copper Memories. They make the vending type machines for > > Not that I doubt you, Willy. But do you know this for sure, or > are just assuming based on location? This is FACT! I received thier flyer in the mail last week... It's now in my circular file with the rest of my annoying junk mail. --Willy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) New TEC News Date: 24 Jul 1997 02:25:39 -0700 William C. Massey wrote: > > Chris Aahz wrote: > > > > > > He also mentions a new elongate club in Virginia, but doesn't give any contact > > > > > > That would be Copper Memories. They make the vending type machines for > > > > Not that I doubt you, Willy. But do you know this for sure, or > > are just assuming based on location? > > This is FACT! I received thier flyer in the mail last week... It's now > in my circular file with the rest of my annoying junk mail. > > --Willy I feel the need to reply to my own message and explain my seemingly harsh remarks: Copper Memories is listed as grossing over $2.5 million annually, at the expense of our elongated collecting community. They are well aware of TEC, yet instead of aiding collectors by publishing their informaion in the TEC Newsletter (free of charge), they feel the need to milk us out of money just so that we can find their machines and BUY their products. --Willy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Birchard Subject: Re: (elongates) MY Internet article intended for TEC News Date: 23 Jul 1997 23:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Just wanted to say that I enjoyed reading your article. It would have been nice if it had been published in TEC. Oh, well, we all here got to read it. Perhaps our editor, Corey, has simply misplaced it like he did with Ray's convention article. :-} Your inclusion of all the URL's was great, I just need time to check them all out. Matt Birchard TEC #1848 Portland, Oregon USA e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) MY Internet article intended for TEC News Date: 24 Jul 1997 03:37:13 -0700 Matthew Birchard wrote: > > Just wanted to say that I enjoyed reading your article. It would > have been nice if it had been published in TEC. Oh, well, we all here > got to read it. Perhaps our editor, Corey, has simply misplaced it like > he did with Ray's convention article. :-} Your inclusion of all the > URL's was great, I just need time to check them all out. I agree about your fine article, Chris. I would have to assume that It just didn't make the deadline. I know that Ray Dillard has been concerned about the declining amount of artilces in the TEC Newsletter lately (It used to average about 20 pages). So, I would have to think that it will be in the next issue. You may even wish to email Corey Wylde and ask if there was any particular reason for the ommission of your article (he misplaced one of mine in the past)... But for what ever reason it was ommited, It certainly could not have been because of it's content! Also Chris, Thanks for the preview! Seems like us Eastcoasters are the last on the mailing list :( And as for the lack of Freebies in this issue... I hope you were the only one not to get an elongated with the issue. I have yet to NOT get a coin with my TEC News... sometimes they even send two! And while I'm on this subject: The freebie with the next issue will be quite nice!!!! It's a coin I'm making for artist, Lurene Haines. It depicts a heart with wings and a halo, and reads: "Practice Random Acts of Kindness". Lurene is a true humanitarian and has graciously offered to donate enough coins for all TEC members (all of the coins given away with the TEC Newsletter are donated by TEC members). Anyone interested in seeing the art of Lurene Haines, and her husband Dave Dorman (who is also issuing an elongated coin in the next few weeks) should check out their website at: htttp://www.dormanart.com They've done some amazing stuff! and if you join their FREE mailing list, you will even get their new elongated featuring the comic hero, "The Iguana", absolutly free with their newsletter! -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) MY Internet article intended for TEC News Date: 24 Jul 1997 00:59:42 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Matthew Birchard wrote: > > > > Just wanted to say that I enjoyed reading your article. It would > > I agree about your fine article, Chris. Thank you both 8-) > I would have to assume that It just didn't make the deadline. I know it made the deadline. I e-mailed it to Corey the day before the deadline. He commented that it was a bit long and he would probably have to shorten it, I then edited it myself, removing about 20% of it and resubmitted it on the day of the deadline. Most likely it was not printed for two reasons: 1) There was already a complete article on TEC and the Internet, and 2) With Ray's found article there just wasn't space. If he has filed it for future use then it will be out of date when printed. I was really hoping to see it in this issue since this one will be distributed at ANA and thus will reach a much larger audience. But c'est la vie (or however it's spelled). > I know that Ray Dillard has been > concerned about the declining amount of artilces in the TEC Newsletter > lately (It used to average about 20 pages). So, I would have to think > that it will be in the next issue. The call for articles was the thing that finally got me to sit down and write it. I hadn't written anything for publication in about ten years. Perhaps Pete can use it in The Centennial. The new issue is 16 pages. Frankly, I'd like to see around 24 pages every month. Four issues a year is just not enough for me. I read and re-read each issue. One of the reasons I am so pleased with this list (and mailing lists in general) is that information can be gotten out not only on a timely basis, but in 'conversation' format. There is feedback on specific issues without waiting 3 months, no page limits due to financial constraints, and no lead time! Since the list has been so succesful, the idea of a secondary elongates club has been tickling the back of my mind. That's why I was so interested in the validity of the Virginia 'club'. Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about an overthrow of TEC. TEC is an integral, and essential, part of elongate collecting. But just as the hundreds of coin clubs do not detract from the ANA, perhaps there's room for two elongate clubs. Just random thoughts floating thru my brain. Any thoughts? > Also Chris, > Thanks for the preview! Seems like us Eastcoasters are the last on the > mailing list :( At least there's SOME consulation for living in California ;) > > And as for the lack of Freebies in this issue... I hope you were the I hope so too! Not only are the freebies a great incentive to join TEC, but I've received several of my favorite issues this way. I would really like to hear from each TEC member that reads this as to wether or not you got your freebie. > nice!!!! It's a coin I'm making for artist, Lurene Haines. It depicts > a heart with wings and a halo, and reads: "Practice Random Acts of > Kindness". Lurene is a true humanitarian and has graciously offered to This sounds pretty neat. If I don't get THAT one, heads will roll! 8-) > Anyone interested in seeing the art of Lurene Haines, and her husband > Dave Dorman (who is also issuing an elongated coin in the next few I've seen Dave's work at comic shows. He's great! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) "Yesterday's Elongateds" at bargain price Date: 24 Jul 1997 08:31:14 -0400 Do you have an address for it? - Jeff At 10:46 PM 7/23/97 -0700, you wrote: >Greetings & Salutations! > > Just a quick note to let everyone know that Angros Enterprises is >offering "Yesterday's Elongateds" for only $30 including postage! This a >great price! I recently purchased a copy for $45 and found it to be more >than worth the price. > > For any who don't know, "Yesterday's Elongateds" is a wonderful >book by Dottie Dow and Lee Martin. It catalogs nearly all of the >elongated coins issued between 1893 and 1965 with illustrations of all >but five or six. If you have any interest in older elongates (especially >World's Fair issues then this book is a must have. And I sincerely doubt >you'll ever find it at a cheaper price. > > Peace, > > Aahz > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist >The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 >List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) >Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm >"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) The NY convention Date: 24 Jul 1997 08:50:52 -0400 The big problem I see is that everybody seems to be heading out on Friday. I can't make it there until Saturday. :( If Ray's going to be at both places, and I can order the passport, it doesn't make as much sense. - Jeff At 10:11 PM 7/23/97 -0400, you wrote: >Jeff Dixon wrote: >> >> But, he'll have some of these at the Mass convention - right? > >If you're referring to the NENA Conference and Convention in >Marlborough, MA on 22-23 August, the answer is YES. However, an ANA >Convention is an Event, and not to be missed if you have an opportunity >to attend. > >Regards, > >Bob Fritsch >rfritsch@concentric.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) "Yesterday's Elongateds" at bargain price Date: 24 Jul 1997 08:27:17 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote: > Do you have an address for it? > - Jeff > At 10:46 PM 7/23/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Greetings & Salutations! > > > > Just a quick note to let everyone know that Angros Enterprises is > >offering "Yesterday's Elongateds" for only $30 including postage! This a > >great price! I recently purchased a copy for $45 and found it to be more > >than worth the price. > > Oops! the ad is in the Classisfieds in TEC News, but for those without, the address is: Angros Enterprises 70 Grove St. New Milford, CT 06776 Mention hearing about it in both TEC News and on The ELongated COin Mialing List and I'll be your friend 8-) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) "Yesterday's Elongateds" at bargain price Date: 24 Jul 1997 11:44:42 -0400 I haven't received my issue yet *pout*. - Jeff At 08:27 AM 7/24/97 -0700, you wrote: > >On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote: > >> Do you have an address for it? >> - Jeff >> At 10:46 PM 7/23/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >Greetings & Salutations! >> > >> > Just a quick note to let everyone know that Angros Enterprises is >> >offering "Yesterday's Elongateds" for only $30 including postage! This a >> >great price! I recently purchased a copy for $45 and found it to be more >> >than worth the price. >> > > > Oops! the ad is in the Classisfieds in TEC News, but for those >without, the address is: > > Angros Enterprises > 70 Grove St. > New Milford, CT 06776 > > Mention hearing about it in both TEC News and on The ELongated >COin Mialing List and I'll be your friend 8-) > > Peace, > > Aahz > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist >The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 >List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) >Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm >"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Painting Elongates Date: 24 Jul 1997 09:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! Well, I painted my first elongate last night. I tried three different types of markers that I hadlying around, but none worked very well. The ink wouldn't 'stick' to the coin. So, I pulled out some acrylic craft paint and went to work. My lack of painting skills aside I'm very pleased with the result. I will be doing more in the future and perhaps I'll send some along with future trades. Just wanted to share. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: RE: (elongates) Upcoming TEC elections (fwd) Date: 24 Jul 1997 11:52:49 -0700 (PDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Greetings Chris, I spoke with Corey Wylde last night about another matter and he did confirm that Gus will not be running again. You were correct. Regarding the election of officers and board of directors - they should be elected by the membership in total by a combination of absentee votes and by the votes of the members that attend the annual meeting. I am uncertain what has happened in the past under our former leadership. Again, please keep me in the loop. Rocky Rockholt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: RE: (elongates) Upcoming TEC elections Date: 24 Jul 1997 12:02:04 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, ROCKY ROCKHOLT wrote: > Regarding the election of officers and board of directors - they should be > elected by the membership in total by a combination of absentee votes and by > the votes of the members that attend the annual meeting. I am uncertain what > has happened in the past under our former leadership. I agree, but this is not what is happening. Thelection will be in eight days and there has been no absentee ballot distributed or even an official list of candidates. Ray, Anita, and Willy each have 'nominee statements' in the current TEC News, but that what about the positions of Secretary and 'Governors' (I assume the current title of this position is Director). Speaking of Governors, there are only two listed in the TEC News masthead, yet the Constitution calls for three. Are each of the nominees running uncontested? What about that third governor/director slot? These are questions that beg to be answered. I am constantly 'talking up' TEC, both online and in person. However, it is things like this that can easily lead to deteriation. > > Again, please keep me in the loop. > The subject is not generating much interest on my mailing list. Most of the TEC members there joined this year, so don't yet have a real feel for the organization. I also know that some people prefer to steer clear of politics for fear of rustling the wrong feathers. I will, however, continue to keep you informed. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Re: My articl in new TEC News (fwd) Date: 24 Jul 1997 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) For those of you who enjoyed my article and wondered why it was not printed, here is the unsolicited reason from Corey Wylde, TEC editor. It's pretty much what I thought. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Chris- Thanks for the kudos. I believe you have an article pending on various elongated internet sites. I did not use it this issue because I didn't want to overwhelm our non-electronic members with barrels full of cyberspace. They have been the backbone of this club for years and are still the majority. The trend is changing tho. If you have any more sites to add to your artilce between now and the 1st of September, send them in. -Corey PS I''ll try to squeeze the owl in somewhere beginning with the January issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Birchard Subject: (elongates) Freebies Date: 24 Jul 1997 12:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Since Chris asked, Yes, I did get my freebie coin with my issue of TEC News. These freebies have been the only new coins that I've received in awhile. I just don't get out much into collection. I have them from all the local machines, and I'm just to lazy/broke/lazy to send away for any more. Maybe if I bought a machine it would spur me on to learn how to engrave and issue my own coins. Someday, someday. I'm still young ya know; I've got many years ahead of me yet to enjoy and further the hobby. Matt Birchard TEC: #1848 Portland, Oregon USA e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Freebies Date: 24 Jul 1997 12:58:20 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Matthew Birchard wrote: > in awhile. I just don't get out much into collection. I have them from > all the local machines, and I'm just to lazy/broke/lazy to send away for This is what trading is for!! If you like I'll send you my trade list via private e-mail (you just missed the list posting by a few days). Let me know off-list. > any more. Maybe if I bought a machine it would spur me on to learn how > to engrave and issue my own coins. Someday, someday. I'm still young ya > know; I've got many years ahead of me yet to enjoy and further the hobby. Go for it! There are plenty available. Check the classifieds of TEC News, or e-mail Bill at BKornoelje@aol.com. He's offereing his machine, two die rolls (one w/four designs), and his entire stock of elongates for $2500. Seems like a pretty good deal considering the stock that comes with hit. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: (elongates) New list machine for Disneyland? Date: 24 Jul 1997 16:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Hi; Just want to report that my 11 year old found a new (for me) machine at Disneyland. It is a three die, with Tinkerbell, Capt. Hook, and Peter Pan. Location is Teddy Bearra's Swingin' Arcade in Critter Country. According to my sources. :-) Didn't get the machine number, sorry Dave. Happy Collecting, -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 24 Jul 1997 17:53:14 -0400 (EDT) HI all; Just did a little counting. If my math is correct, as of today, there are 74 cents, 3 nickels, and 9 quarters at Disneyland including the two hotels. That's a lot of rolling! -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 24 Jul 1997 15:02:37 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > Just did a little counting. If my math is correct, as of today, there are 74 > cents, 3 nickels, and 9 quarters at Disneyland including the two hotels. > That's a lot of rolling! No kidding! Especially when we're talking multiple sets. Thank god they're automated! Well, I was planning on getting at least four sets. That makes almost $200! ($199.76 for the purists). Wow, guess my limit is definetly four sets. Combined with the other coins I plan on picking up on the trip, I'm definetly gonna need more money!! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: My articl in new TEC News (fwd) Date: 24 Jul 1997 18:34:45 -0700 Chris Aahz wrote: > > For those of you who enjoyed my article and wondered why it was > not printed, here is the unsolicited reason from Corey Wylde, TEC > editor. It's pretty much what I thought. > From:WSons@aol.com > To: aahz@svpal.org > Subject: Re: New TEC News > > Chris- Thanks for the kudos. I believe you have an article pending on various > elongated internet sites. I did not use it this issue because I didn't want > to overwhelm our non-electronic members with barrels full of cyberspace. They > have been the backbone of this club for years and are still the majority. The > trend is changing tho. If you have any more sites to add to your artilce > between now and the 1st of September, send them in. > > -Corey > Sorry Gang, But this response doesn't make much sense to me. TEC knows that over 50 of it's newest members came from information posted on the Internet (roughly 10% of active dues-paying members). It seems to me that the "non-electronic members" could just skip this reading if it didn't interest them... It's not like extra Internet news would be substituting for the other EC news!... It would just supplement it! Oh well, while the trend may not be changing as fast as many of us would like... at least it IS changing :) --Willy TEC 1857 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Freebies Date: 24 Jul 1997 18:41:33 -0700 Dear Chris (and all that may care), It appears that the lack of a freebie coin with your TEC issue was an oversight. Please don't get discouraged with TEC, you just seem to be having an unusual string of bad luck :( I just received my TEC Newsletter today! The Free coin with my issue was on of RR's coins depicting a train (its one from his set of 20 different trains that Bill Grencavich had engraved for him a year or so ago.) Just thought you might like to know. --Willy TEC 1857 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Freebies Date: 24 Jul 1997 16:05:16 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > Dear Chris (and all that may care), > > It appears that the lack of a freebie coin with your TEC issue was an > oversight. It's good to know that this practice has not been stopped for some reason. This was my primary concern. More than likely, my freebie simply escaped somewhere in the mail. > Please don't get discouraged with TEC, you just seem to be having an > unusual string of bad luck :( I'm not. I still love TEC! I only complain about the things I like 8-) If I was discouraged I would just leave it behind. Better that these things happen to someone as obsessed as myself then someone who is borderline. Things happen. It's all part of life's grand pageant... Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "zinful" Subject: (elongates) Hello Date: 24 Jul 1997 17:49:29 -0000 Hello to all, I am new to the list and just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Gina and I live in Costa Mesa, CA although I won't be here long. In Sept I will be a student again (Loma Linda University) and will have to move closer to campus. I have been collecting elongated coins for at least 13-15 years. Since I only recently became a 'serious collector' my collection is not huge by any means. My collection mainly consists of souvenir coins, but I want to acquire others. One of my main interests is music, if anyone has any music or musician related coins please let me know. Also I have a trade list, so if anyone wants to see it just e-mail. One more thing before i go (Chris has asked as well as others) I not only am interested in elongated and music (among other things) I also am quite fond of wine (red wine) particulary zinfandel. Until more, Gina TEC #2109 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) MY Internet article intended for TEC News Date: 24 Jul 1997 19:42:26 -0700 On 7/24/97 3:37 AM William C. Massey (massey@clark.net ) wrote >And as for the lack of Freebies in this issue... I hope you were the >only one not to get an elongated with the issue. I have yet to NOT get >a coin with my TEC News... sometimes they even send two! And while I'm >on this subject: The freebie with the next issue will be quite >nice!!!! It's a coin I'm making for artist, Lurene Haines. It depicts >a heart with wings and a halo, and reads: "Practice Random Acts of >Kindness". Lurene is a true humanitarian and has graciously offered to >donate enough coins for all TEC members (all of the coins given away >with the TEC Newsletter are donated by TEC members) Free coins? If I had not seen this email I would not have known I was missing something! It does not even appear there was a coin attached (no putty, etc.). What was on the coin? Bert Creighton TEC#2095 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Everyone! Date: 24 Jul 1997 23:55:47 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-24 18:44:08 EDT, you write: << I could buy them. If there is any info on thes Zodiac penies...please let me > know... Well, I posted this to The Penny Page, but I'll repeat it here as well: check out http://members.aol.com/BKornoleje/index.html Bill's got some Zodiacs available. It is important to note, however, that there have been numerous zodiac sets issued. I have a Gemini with a couple copulating and have seen a set with the name and symbol at the top, a line drawing of the standard picture in the center, and the dates and planet symbol at the bottom. What do yours look like. >> My Zodiac pennies have a ring of stars around the edge. The picture is verticaly alined with the sign's symbol, name, dates, picture, and planetary symbol on the botom. I would love to get a Leo and Tarus! Thanks for the info...and by the way...I am willing to trade the strainge/unknown coins that I posted about previously. Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) MY Internet article intended for TEC News Date: 25 Jul 1997 00:17:50 -0700 Bert Creighton wrote: > Free coins? If I had not seen this email I would not have known I was > missing something! It does not even appear there was a coin attached (no > putty, etc.). The TEC freebies come in a small envelope that is stapled into the Newsletters when they are stapled closed for mailing. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 25 Jul 1997 00:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Hey are there any Star Treck or other Sci-Fi orientated elongates out there? I would love to get them! Also I have a pennie that is not elongated...it was re-stamped with a new designe...but still in a circle...I got it from Utah. One side says "DINOSAUR LAND . UTAH" with a fosilized dino print in the center. The other side has a picture of a t-rex and says tyrannosaurus on it. Any info on this?? I got it near Dinosaur National Monument in Utah/Wyhoming.... Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 24 Jul 1997 21:36:23 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > Hey are there any Star Treck or other Sci-Fi orientated elongates out there? I'm sure there are, but I haven't come across them yet. Paramount's Great America has Star Trek as one of its main themes, but has not installed a ST penny yet. I recommended it, and got a "thank you, we'll consider it" note in response. If it shows up, you'll be the first I tell. > I would love to get them! Also I have a pennie that is not elongated...it > was re-stamped with a new designe...but still in a circle...I got it from > Utah. One side says "DINOSAUR LAND . UTAH" with a fosilized dino print in > the center. The other side has a picture of a t-rex and says tyrannosaurus > on it. Any info on this?? I got it near Dinosaur National Monument in > Utah/Wyhoming.... Are you sure it was a penny to begin with and is not simply a token made of the same materials in the same size? If it is actually a modified penny, then it is what is called a counter-stamp. Sounds pretty cool either way. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 25 Jul 1997 00:55:30 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-25 00:53:17 EDT, you write: << I would love to get them! Also I have a pennie that is not elongated...it > was re-stamped with a new designe...but still in a circle...I got it from > Utah. One side says "DINOSAUR LAND . UTAH" with a fosilized dino print in > the center. The other side has a picture of a t-rex and says tyrannosaurus > on it. Any info on this?? I got it near Dinosaur National Monument in > Utah/Wyhoming.... Are you sure it was a penny to begin with and is not simply a token made of the same materials in the same size? If it is actually a modified penny, then it is what is called a counter-stamp. Sounds pretty cool either way. >> I am sure it used to be a pennie because I put the pennie in the machine my self!! I have done a lot of traveling!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 24 Jul 1997 21:58:00 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-25 00:53:17 EDT, you write: > > > Also I have a pennie that is not elongated...it > > was re-stamped with a new designe...but still in a circle... > > Are you sure it was a penny to begin with and is not simply a > I am sure it used to be a pennie because I put the pennie in the machine my > self!! I have done a lot of traveling!!! Well, then that would be a counter-stamp. I've never heard of a counterstamping machine before. Anyone else seen these anywhere? Peace, Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:06:29 -0700 Greetings, I'd love to get an exact location of the tyrannosaurus machine. Do you have any more info I could use to track it down? Also, there's a new Star Trek theme area opened (or opening) at the Las Vegas Hilton. I wonder if they have any coins there? You might just call them and see (and let me know what you find, thanks!)... Bert On 7/24/97 9:55 PM Egd9020@aol.com (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote >In a message dated 97-07-25 00:53:17 EDT, you write: > ><< I would love to get them! Also I have a pennie that is not >elongated...it > > was re-stamped with a new designe...but still in a circle...I got it from > > Utah. One side says "DINOSAUR LAND . UTAH" with a fosilized dino print >in > > the center. The other side has a picture of a t-rex and says >tyrannosaurus > > on it. Any info on this?? I got it near Dinosaur National Monument in > > Utah/Wyhoming.... > > Are you sure it was a penny to begin with and is not simply a > token made of the same materials in the same size? If it is actually a > modified penny, then it is what is called a counter-stamp. Sounds pretty > cool either way. > >> >I am sure it used to be a pennie because I put the pennie in the machine my >self!! I have done a lot of traveling!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:01:18 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > Also, there's a new Star Trek theme area opened (or opening) at the Las > Vegas Hilton. I wonder if they have any coins there? You might just call > them and see (and let me know what you find, thanks!)... Nikki (tink!!!) is in Vegas now, I believe. Perhaps she will have some info (and some to trade) when she returns next week. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 25 Jul 1997 01:02:49 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-25 01:00:37 EDT, you write: << > Also I have a pennie that is not elongated...it > > was re-stamped with a new designe...but still in a circle... > > Are you sure it was a penny to begin with and is not simply a > I am sure it used to be a pennie because I put the pennie in the machine my > self!! I have done a lot of traveling!!! Well, then that would be a counter-stamp. I've never heard of a counterstamping machine before. Anyone else seen these anywhere? >> I guess this makes my Dinosaur Utah counter-stamp unique! I think I will hold onto it for a wile! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 25 Jul 1997 01:10:24 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-25 01:01:47 EDT, you write: << I'd love to get an exact location of the tyrannosaurus machine. Do you have any more info I could use to track it down? >> Ok...the machine is in Vernal, Utah...I can't remember the name of the place it is in,but it was a chessy dianosaur park...with life-sized moldles of dinasaurs. This was about 2 years...... You might find it! Good Luck! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:23:50 -0700 Liz, Do you have access to a computer scanner that you could get a picture of this penny and get it up on the web for everyone to see. I would be happy to put it on my web site and give you the proper credit. Bert On 7/24/97 10:02 PM Egd9020@aol.com (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote >I guess this makes my Dinosaur Utah counter-stamp unique! >I think I will hold onto it for a wile! > >Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) CounterStamped URL Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:33:30 -0700 Liz And All, The location of this machine appears to be at URL: http://www.sisna.com/vernal/ I will pursue (that's what we Location Keepers do, pursue) this and see where it leads... Bert Smashed Coin Locator http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html On 7/24/97 10:10 PM Egd9020@aol.com (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote >Ok...the machine is in Vernal, Utah...I can't remember the name of the place >it is in,but it was a chessy dianosaur park...with life-sized moldles of >dinasaurs. This was about 2 years...... You might find it! >Good Luck! >Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) CounterStamped URL Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:33:11 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > The location of this machine appears to be at URL: > > http://www.sisna.com/vernal/ > Now THAT's what I call fast service! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:41:26 -0700 Gina, Greetings and welcome to the list! It is great having another Southern California collector online with us (I'm in San Diego). I wanted to be sure you knew about the 1st meeting of the list members (a few of us that is) at Disneyland on September 7th (which is also Grandparents day). We hope you can join us for our 1st meeting, where we will have some fun/food, trading and story telling about our collections... Recently Chris Aahz posted a message on the Top 10 Locations That Need Smashed Coin Machines. Perhaps we should start a top 10 list of Wineries and Vinyards that need a machine! Anyway, it is good to have you on the list. Hope you can join us on the 7th (a Sunday). Bert Creighton TEC#2095 On 7/24/97 10:49 AM zinful (zinful@prodigy.net ) wrote >Hello to all, >I am new to the list and just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Gina >and I live in Costa Mesa, CA although I won't be here long. In Sept I >will be a student again (Loma Linda University) and will have to move >closer to campus. > >I have been collecting elongated coins for at least 13-15 years. Since I >only recently became a 'serious collector' my collection is not huge by any >means. > >My collection mainly consists of souvenir coins, but I want to acquire >others. > >One of my main interests is music, if anyone has any music or musician >related coins please let me know. > >Also I have a trade list, so if anyone wants to see it just e-mail. > >One more thing before i go (Chris has asked as well as others) I not only >am interested in elongated and music (among other things) I also am quite >fond of wine (red wine) particulary zinfandel. > >Until more, >Gina TEC #2109 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "zinful" Subject: Re: (elongates) MY Internet article intended for TEC News Date: 24 Jul 1997 21:31:32 -0000 I have not received my TEC news as of yet (7/24) but the last news I received was also without a free coin . It had an envelope which was sealed and stapled to the news but nothing was in it. Oh well I can't complain when i first goined TEC I received quite a few freebies with my first news issue. Gina TEC #2109 ---------- > From: William C. Massey > To: elongates@mail.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (elongates) MY Internet article intended for TEC News > Date: Friday, July 25, 1997 7:17 AM > > Bert Creighton wrote: > > > Free coins? If I had not seen this email I would not have known I was > > missing something! It does not even appear there was a coin attached (no > > putty, etc.). > > The TEC freebies come in a small envelope that is stapled into the > Newsletters when they are stapled closed for mailing. > -- > Elongatedly Yours, > > William C. Massey > TEC #1857 > > ******************************************** > > P.S. > Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page > http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:43:27 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > Recently Chris Aahz posted a message on the Top 10 Locations That Need > Smashed Coin Machines. Perhaps we should start a top 10 list of Wineries > and Vinyards that need a machine! Well, I am surrounded by wineries (Napa Valley, Saratoga, Livermore, Lodi "The White Zinfandel Capitol of the World") and have delivered packages to several of them. Not a single one has had a penny machine 8-( Of course, since I ask every time I'm at each one, perhaps this will change 8-) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) Regarding New Coin Locations Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:57:43 -0700 Hi, I know someone that can change this, if the traffic load will justify putting in a machine. I will be happy to pass on locations, if there are reasonable (you be the judge) numbers of people going to the location... Please send emails to me at creightoniii@home.com and I will forward on... Bert (I'm not trying to act as a middleman, just protecting the privacy of a friend until they are ready to go online. bc) On 7/24/97 10:43 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > >On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > >> Recently Chris Aahz posted a message on the Top 10 Locations That Need >> Smashed Coin Machines. Perhaps we should start a top 10 list of Wineries >> and Vinyards that need a machine! > > Well, I am surrounded by wineries (Napa Valley, Saratoga, >Livermore, Lodi "The White Zinfandel Capitol of the World") and have >delivered packages to several of them. Not a single one has had a penny >machine 8-( Of course, since I ask every time I'm at each one, perhaps >this will change 8-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "zinful" Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 24 Jul 1997 21:57:53 -0000 Hey excellent idea with the wineries. I would love to see them at these locations. The only thing about that is all of the smashed coin machines are in locations where there are a lot of kids. But they don't have to be, do they? Gina TEC #2109 ---------- > From: Chris Aahz > To: elongates@mail.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello > Date: Friday, July 25, 1997 5:43 AM > > > On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > > > Recently Chris Aahz posted a message on the Top 10 Locations That Need > > Smashed Coin Machines. Perhaps we should start a top 10 list of Wineries > > and Vinyards that need a machine! > > Well, I am surrounded by wineries (Napa Valley, Saratoga, > Livermore, Lodi "The White Zinfandel Capitol of the World") and have > delivered packages to several of them. Not a single one has had a penny > machine 8-( Of course, since I ask every time I'm at each one, perhaps > this will change 8-) > > Peace, > > Aahz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist > The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 > List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) > Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm > "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 25 Jul 1997 02:16:50 -0700 zinful wrote: > > Hey excellent idea with the wineries. I would love to see them at these > locations. The only thing about that is all of the smashed coin machines > are in locations where there are a lot of kids. But they don't have to be, > do they? I've heard that Eurolink won't even consider a location unless foot traffic is 3 million per year! For the other makers... I have no Idea. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 24 Jul 1997 23:14:16 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, zinful wrote: > > Hey excellent idea with the wineries. I would love to see them at these > locations. The only thing about that is all of the smashed coin machines > are in locations where there are a lot of kids. But they don't have to be, > do they? Apparently you haven't been to Napa. Kids are everywhere at the wineries. With basically nothing to do while their parents get slowly sloshed. Besides, in my experience far more adults actually waste their money on these little trinkets....um..er...I mean...purchase these tiny works of art, then kids. I alawys assumed it was the reverse as well, but experience in and around San Francisco has shown me otherwise. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "zinful" Subject: (elongates) Trade List Date: 24 Jul 1997 22:14:13 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC987E.EAFBC100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Well I am going to attempt to post my list. I hope it goes through O.K. because I have had some problems on the receiving end. 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//////////////////////////////////////// ------=_NextPart_000_01BC987E.EAFBC100-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: (elongates) the stamped penny issue Date: 25 Jul 1997 03:14:44 -0700 I have a friend in AZ, who sent me such a token. They are minted much like coins or metals, only they use cents as planchets instead of blank planchets. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 25 Jul 1997 00:48:03 -0700 > On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > > > Also, there's a new Star Trek theme area opened (or opening) at > > the Las Vegas Hilton. I wonder if they have any coins there? You > > might just call them and see (and let me know what you find, > > thanks!)... > > Nikki (tink!!!) is in Vegas now, I believe. Perhaps she > will have some info (and some to trade) when she returns next week. > > Peace, > > Aahz yA-hAH!!! checking my mail one last timebefore heading off in the AM (why am i getting up early on my bday???) anyways, i 'll check it out;> pax!!! nikki -- "There's still a part of me that's 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 25 Jul 1997 05:43:41 -0700 zinful wrote: > One of my main interests is music, if anyone has any music or musician > related coins please let me know. Gina, Henry Bessler (TEC 1068) has a couple of music related elongated coins: one is of Jazz legends, and one is a hipster-dude playing and upright bass. He can be reached at: Henry Bessler 40 Hilltop Dr. Burlington, Mass 01803 617-272--4688 -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Painting Elongates Date: 25 Jul 1997 07:12:32 -0400 Chris Aahz wrote: > Well, I painted my first elongate last night. I tried three > different types of markers that I hadlying around, but none worked Try fingernail polish. One of the offerings at the 1993 ANA Baltimore convention featured a crab painted in red enamel. I think it was fingernail polish. Looks neat! The annual enamelled TEC badges are (or have been) done by SilverTowne, and they do a nice job. Same process as their other enamelled stuff. These badges are available by subscription only so watch _TEC News_ for when they are offered. I bought one at auction one year for about double the subscription price, and glad of it. Regards, Bob Fritsch TEC #1871 rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: (elongates) San Diego Machine Date: 25 Jul 1997 08:10:17 -0400 Bert, There used to be a machine beside the Coyote Cafe in Old Town, featuring an Old Town theme. Since I haven't been to SD for years, it may be gone, but I wouldn't bet on it. Might be a good item to check out and add to your list. Regards, Bob Fritsch TEC #1871 rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: (elongates) Naming the Owl Date: 25 Jul 1997 08:23:14 -0400 I also don't know if the Owl has a name, other than Athena's Owl. It's the same as the one on the Athenian Tetradrachm of ancient Greece. In their mythology, the owl flew around the world every night gathering news of what was happening. If we don't have a name for it, I suggest a contest to NAME THE OWL. No, don't put your ideas on the net immediately in a rush of enthusiasm! To give all TEC members a chance, it must be done through announcement in _TEC News_, with definite dates for start and finish. I would be glad to serve as the contest chairman and would take input by any means (E-Mail, SnailMail, Pony Express...). The Board could serve as the judges. How about it, Mr. President? Regards, Bob Fritsch TEC #1871 rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set Date: 25 Jul 1997 09:10:08 -0400 Here's the update from Big Al - Jeff >From: "Big Al & Pooh Too!" >To: "Jeff Dixon" >Subject: Re: Disney World penny set >Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 20:17:13 -0400 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >Hi Jeff! > >Good to hear from you again. Here is what I will do for you and your >group. >I will only charge one fee of $300 for all 6 sets. Since I will get them >all at once, it will save me time and if you split it six ways, it will >save each of you money too. >However, I will have to charge some extra shipping to cover the 5 extra >sets of pennies. I can give you an exact amount if you give me your zip >code where I will send the pressed pennies. > >Also, I do not put the pennies in any kind of covers or protectors. If you >wish me to do so after they have been pressed, you need to send the covers >or protectors along with the pennies. > [snip] >Looking forward to hearing from you soon! >Your Friend in the Parks, >Big Al > >http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 25 Jul 1997 09:17:35 -0400 74 cents. Whoa. I guess I should count how many I have. Where's the current list again? - Jeff At 03:02 PM 7/24/97 -0700, you wrote: > >On Thu, 24 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > >> Just did a little counting. If my math is correct, as of today, there are 74 >> cents, 3 nickels, and 9 quarters at Disneyland including the two hotels. >> That's a lot of rolling! > > No kidding! Especially when we're talking multiple sets. Thank >god they're automated! Well, I was planning on getting at least four >sets. That makes almost $200! ($199.76 for the purists). Wow, guess my >limit is definetly four sets. Combined with the other coins I plan on >picking up on the trip, I'm definetly gonna need more money!! > > Peace, > > Aahz > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist >The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 >List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) >Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm >"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set Date: 25 Jul 1997 08:19:12 -0500 Sounds good to me. Of course you know he will probably make more sets now and make up the difference with someone later down the raod. Janelle Send him my address at: Janelle Henry 13231 179 1/2 Ave Elk River, MN 55330 Let me know what I owe for all this so I can get the money to you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) Disney World penny set - clarification Date: 25 Jul 1997 11:06:22 -0400 >From: "Big Al & Pooh Too!" >To: "Jeff Dixon" >Subject: Re: Disney World penny set >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:04:14 -0400 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >Good Morning! > >I sent an e-mail to you last night in regards to your pressed pennies. I >wanted to send a follow up e-mail to clarify something that I didn't make >clear. The fee for getting the pennies is $300. The cost of just the >pennies for 6 sets is $603. So the actual total for 6 sets is $903 plus >whatever the extra shipping is. (I just need your zip code and If the >extra shipping is less than $5 extra then I won't charge extra). Basically >when you and your group split the cost, each will be paying $50 instead of >$200 as I normally charge per set. > >Any questions, let me know.... >Your Friend in the Parks, >Big Al > >http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Utah Dinoasur stamped pennie Date: 25 Jul 1997 11:41:40 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-25 04:23:52 EDT, you write: << Liz, Do you have access to a computer scanner that you could get a picture of this penny and get it up on the web for everyone to see. I would be happy to put it on my web site and give you the proper credit. Bert >> I don't have access to a scaner..but I do have a camera....I have been planing on photographing my collection. I can send you a picture of this pennie..both sides...and you could do the scanning... BTW, now that I remember the machine didn't take pennies...there was a tube at the top of the machine containing what looked like pennies...so it only cost you $0.50, not the usual $0.51.... :) If I remember anything else..i'll let you all know... Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: Re: (elongates) New TEC News Date: 24 Jul 1997 16:24:00 PDT I'm with you, Willy. If they do care about the squished community, they wouldn't show it at the price of $20 or whatever. Not to be tooting horns, but I feel if the SPM newsletter, the Centinel, is worth well over its cover price of free, so what do THEY give you for your $20? I have a feeling the only "memory" I'll have is that of the $20 that I squandered by joining them. Pete proud TEC #2110 William C. Massey wrote: > > Chris Aahz wrote: > > > > > > He also mentions a new elongate club in Virginia, but doesn't give any contact > > > > > > That would be Copper Memories. They make the vending type machines for > > > > Not that I doubt you, Willy. But do you know this for sure, or > > are just assuming based on location? > > This is FACT! I received thier flyer in the mail last week... It's now > in my circular file with the rest of my annoying junk mail. > > --Willy I feel the need to reply to my own message and explain my seemingly harsh remarks: Copper Memories is listed as grossing over $2.5 million annually, at the expense of our elongated collecting community. They are well aware of TEC, yet instead of aiding collectors by publishing their informaion in the TEC Newsletter (free of charge), they feel the need to milk us out of money just so that we can find their machines and BUY their products. --Willy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: (elongates) Hello Date: 24 Jul 1997 16:18:00 PDT Oh, I'm sure you'll find plenty o' traffic here! Welcome back to collecting. Pete Hi, I've just subscribed to this list. Just wanted to say "hello". I've been collecting for, oh, around 10 years now. I haven't been very active lately, though maybe this list will help. Well, that's all for now. I hope to see some traffic here. Matt Birchard TEC# 1848 Portland, Oregon USA e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) CounterStamped URL Date: 25 Jul 1997 11:46:12 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-25 03:17:45 EDT, you write: << Liz And All, The location of this machine appears to be at URL: http://www.sisna.com/vernal/ I will pursue (that's what we Location Keepers do, pursue) this and see where it leads... >> Yup....that is the place...go to the Dinosaur Gardens link...that is the place...The machine is right outside the gift shop! It's kinda neet...I was there 2 years ago and now I can go back and vist any old day! Gota love the web! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Utah Dinoasur stamped pennie Date: 25 Jul 1997 11:46:48 -0400 Wow! A tube! That sounds pretty neat. Has anyone else seen a machine like that one? I would be curious to see what it looks like. - Jeff At 11:41 AM 7/25/97 -0400, Egd9020@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-07-25 04:23:52 EDT, you write: > ><< > Liz, > > Do you have access to a computer scanner that you could get a picture of > this penny and get it up on the web for everyone to see. I would be happy > to put it on my web site and give you the proper credit. > > Bert > >> > >I don't have access to a scaner..but I do have a camera....I have been >planing on photographing my collection. I can send you a picture of this >pennie..both sides...and you could do the scanning... >BTW, now that I remember the machine didn't take pennies...there was a tube >at the top of the machine containing what looked like pennies...so it only >cost you $0.50, not the usual $0.51.... :) If I remember anything >else..i'll let you all know... >Liz > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) New TEC News Date: 25 Jul 1997 11:47:53 -0400 What if one person buys it and then puts the thing on the mailing list? - Jeff At 04:24 PM 7/24/97 PDT, you wrote: >I'm with you, Willy. >If they do care about the squished community, they wouldn't show it at the >price of $20 or whatever. Not to be tooting horns, but I feel if the SPM >newsletter, the Centinel, is worth well over its cover price of free, so what >do THEY give you for your $20? I have a feeling the only "memory" I'll have >is that of the $20 that I squandered by joining them. > >Pete >proud TEC #2110 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >William C. Massey wrote: >> >> Chris Aahz wrote: >> > >> > > > He also mentions a new elongate club in Virginia, but doesn't give >any contact >> > > >> > > That would be Copper Memories. They make the vending type machines for >> > >> > Not that I doubt you, Willy. But do you know this for sure, or >> > are just assuming based on location? >> >> This is FACT! I received thier flyer in the mail last week... It's now >> in my circular file with the rest of my annoying junk mail. >> >> --Willy > >I feel the need to reply to my own message and explain my seemingly >harsh remarks: >Copper Memories is listed as grossing over $2.5 million annually, at the >expense of our elongated collecting community. They are well aware of >TEC, yet instead of aiding collectors by publishing their informaion in >the TEC Newsletter (free of charge), they feel the need to milk us out >of money just so that we can find their machines and BUY their >products. > >--Willy > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Naming the Owl Date: 25 Jul 1997 09:02:55 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote: > I also don't know if the Owl has a name, other than Athena's Owl. It's > the same as the one on the Athenian Tetradrachm of ancient Greece. In > their mythology, the owl flew around the world every night gathering > news of what was happening. Wow! Yet again I get an answer before asking the question. I just saw an ad for a book on ancients and there was the TEC Owl on the cover!! Okay, okay, it was a picture of the Athenian Tetradrachm, but I didn't know that when I saw the ad last night. Anyone know how expensive these coins are? I'd like to add one to my collection of TEC coins. > If we don't have a name for it, I suggest a contest to NAME THE OWL. > No, don't put your ideas on the net immediately in a rush of > enthusiasm! To give all TEC members a chance, it must be done through > announcement in _TEC News_, with definite dates for start and finish. I > would be glad to serve as the contest chairman and would take input by > any means (E-Mail, SnailMail, Pony Express...). The Board could serve > as the judges. Well, I decided on a name for him last night, but will hold off announcing my choice. Bob's got a great idea here. Perhaps someone attending the meeiting could bring it up there. I have also forwarded Bob's message to both Corey and Rocky. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 25 Jul 1997 09:05:53 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote: > 74 cents. Whoa. I guess I should count how many I have. Where's the > current list again? > > - Jeff David Tomita's new web page for the Disneyland pressed pennies is: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Shores/3599 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Copper Memories Date: 25 Jul 1997 09:13:56 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Pete Morelewicz wrote: > I'm with you, Willy. > If they do care about the squished community, they wouldn't show it at the They're a corp. By definition they care not about any community except the community of numbers on their bottom line. > price of $20 or whatever. Not to be tooting horns, but I feel if the SPM > newsletter, the Centinel, is worth well over its cover price of free, so what > do THEY give you for your $20? The Centinel is worth FAR more than its cover price, Pete! > I have a feeling the only "memory" I'll have > is that of the $20 that I squandered by joining them. Personally, I think we should buy one 'membership' and then we can simply share the information. I'm all for philosphical points. Hell, I boycott all kinds of business because thier goal is to rip someone off, but I still think the information is valuable. If we really want to hurt them, the way to do so would be to not only refrain from joining their 'club', but to stop buying their pennies and encourage others to not do so. If anyone's not willing to go that far, then I think we need the information. Now, all I need is that address... Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) StarTreck/Sci-Fi Elongates?? Date: 25 Jul 1997 12:28:11 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-25 01:00:37 EDT, you write: > Well, then that would be a counter-stamp. I've never heard of a > counterstamping machine before. Anyone else seen these anywhere? > > Peace, > > Aahz > Yes, I have one from the Hoover Dam. It was made in a screw press while I waited. The machine produced a "token" a little larger in diameter and about a third less the thickness of a cent. Neat machine! Very high quality "token". Location: On the opposite side of the dam from the tour site. Located in front of a small tourist shop (the only tourist shop), an easy walk from the dam. -Bob Hoff TEC#2033 P.S. No, sorry, I didn't get any trades. Man, I wish I had and next time I'm there I surely will. At the time, I didn't know people traded elongateds! (Opps, called myself stupid twice in one paragraph! Better get back to work and let someone else takeover that job. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 25 Jul 1997 12:28:05 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-25 04:27:19 EDT, you write: > I've heard that Eurolink won't even consider a location unless foot > traffic is 3 million per year! For the other makers... I have no Idea. > When in Cambria, CA this last week, I asked many merchants if they had a machine. Some said that a salesman had been through looking to locate a machine in their shop. The merchants said they didn't have the "space" for one! I didn't ask the name of the company or if it was a "share" program or outright sale. I doubt that Eurolink would place a machine there. I don't think the town even has a fast food resturant! Although it is a very nice community. -Bob Hoff TEC#2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland Date: 25 Jul 1997 12:30:35 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-25 09:28:15 EDT, you write: > 74 cents. Whoa. I guess I should count how many I have. Where's the > current list again? > Dave's page is a good one at: http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Shores/3599/ Maybe another member of the list could add another site? -Bob Hoff TEC# 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Utah, Dino Machine Date: 25 Jul 1997 09:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Just got off the phone with the folks at the Dinosaur Museum in Vernal, UT. According to the girl I spoke with the machine produces a half-dollar size token and the cost is $1.00. She did not have the name/contact info of the company, but promised to leave that info on my voice mail later today. If she comes thru then I will post the info tonight. Don't know if this is actually the same machine that we've been talking about, but it's the only one they've got int the park according to the girl I spoke with (although she didn't seem incredibly knowledgeable about many things). The address of the museum is: Dinosaur Museum 235 E. Main Vernal, UT 84078 I called the 800 number listed on their web page (800) 845-DINO, but the direct number to the museum itself is (801) 789-3799. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 25 Jul 1997 09:53:38 -0700 (PDT) With all thius discussion of how much traffic Eurolink requires in order to install a machine, I just have to wonder how the little town of Solvang, CA managed to get three of them! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-25 04:27:19 EDT, you write: > > > I've heard that Eurolink won't even consider a location unless foot > > traffic is 3 million per year! For the other makers... I have no Idea. > > > > When in Cambria, CA this last week, I asked many merchants if they had a > machine. Some said that a salesman had been through looking to locate a > machine in their shop. The merchants said they didn't have the "space" for > one! I didn't ask the name of the company or if it was a "share" program > or outright sale. > > I doubt that Eurolink would place a machine there. I don't think the town > even has a fast food resturant! Although it is a very nice community. > > > -Bob Hoff > TEC#2033 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Birchard Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 25 Jul 1997 10:32:34 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Pete Morelewicz wrote: > Oh, I'm sure you'll find plenty o' traffic here! Welcome back to collecting. > > Pete My god yes! This is not the only list I'm on, as I've said, but this list is by FAR the most active. Let's see, I deleted 54 messages last night. Keep'em coming! Matt Birchard TEC #1848 Portland, Oregon USA e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 25 Jul 1997 10:49:07 -0700 Greetings, Let's see, the exact locations of those 3 Solvang machines would be: Macine #1 ______ Macine #2 ______ Macine #3 ______ Location Keeper On 7/25/97 9:53 AM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > With all thius discussion of how much traffic Eurolink requires >in order to install a machine, I just have to wonder how the little town >of Solvang, CA managed to get three of them! > > Peace, > > Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) The final WDW set amounts Date: 25 Jul 1997 13:50:14 -0400 (Sorry to send this to the list -- I can't remember off the top of my head who is getting the sets) Here's the rundown for WDW penny sets: 201 * .50 = 105.50 + 50.00 (for Al) = $155.50/set If you don't send me pennies - then it will cost you 201*.01 = $2.01 extra for a total of $157.51/set. My address: Jeff Dixon 422 Mystic Ave #404 Somerville, MA 02145 I'll eat the cost of extra shipping - as long as it stays inexpensive. We'll have to see. Lets try to send out the package to Big Al a week from now. If there are people that can't come up with the money before then, please e-mail me. - Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: My articl in new TEC News (fwd) Date: 25 Jul 1997 12:45:03 -0700 Greetings, I want to express my strong support for TEC News publishing articles on the changing nature of our hobby - specifically the elongated information (via electronic communications) many of us are using. The computer is basically a communications tool, as is a letter or a phone. Through email, web pages and listservs we are bringing our discussions of elongates into a more real time world, the way we all work and live. As a collector, I want to have a ready source of information (and experience) that I can consult for new locations, info on older coins, help in finding engravers, etc. The worldwide web, and email, are providing new capabilities for us to share our experience AND to archive it, so that new people coming into our hobby can see a wealth of information. I used ...'s Bulletin Board to learn many things about the hobby and to find other collectors (both in TEC and outside) that I could talk to, and trade with. Now we have Chris Aahz's Mailing List, various Location Keeper's Web Sites, Kathy's Web Site + BBoard, and email communications. These new electronic tools are bringing new members into TEC and into the hobby. I have received emails from people that were searching the net for Disneyland sites and found my Disneyland Smashed Coin page. They had no idea others were out there collecting and trading. I get emails all the time saying "I thought I was eccentric for collecting these, but now I found out there are many others out there..." Just after joining TEC (#2095) I wrote to Howard Sharkey (TEC Secretary) to ask for a template so that I could write an article (Yup, on the new electronic forms of sharing and growing our hobby). Chris beat me to it and did a better job! I also asked Howard about publishing (with each members permission) TEC member's email addresses (in the TEC NEWS) so we can communicate much faster than regular mail (which I find is both slower and more time consuming). In no way do I want to overwhelm any current TEC members. But well written articles that explain what email, worldwide web and listserv's can do, how they work, etc are the best way to share with non-online members what is going on. I'd love to see a full page of TEC NEWS opened up to electronic articles (background pieces, interesting stories, how to's, etc). Example: Recently a famous artist was at my Smashed Coin Locator site and found some information that lead them to order some dies from another TEC member. That means 2 new issues will be coming out because 2 web sites showed someone how to get started. I'd love to have these kinds of stories shared across the entire TEC membership. The communications channels (web, email...) are NOT the message, they are the messenger. Articles cover the content of what is available is what will be of most interest to all TEC members (in my humble opinion). Everyone with an email address also has a US Postal address and these could be included to help TEC members not online communicate with those that are. Many people have helped me getting my collection going. Most of this help has been via email, web pages and Chris' Mailing List. I hope we can take the best of these information channels and repurpose the content into TEC NEWS so that all TEC members can benefit. I remain dedicated to TEC and will continue working hard to bring in new members (via my web site and all other means). Bert Creighton TEC #2095 On 7/24/97 12:35 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > > For those of you who enjoyed my article and wondered why it was >not printed, here is the unsolicited reason from Corey Wylde, TEC >editor. It's pretty much what I thought. > > Peace, > > Aahz > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist >The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 >List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) >Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm >"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:29:11 -0400 (EDT) >From:WSons@aol.com >To: aahz@svpal.org >Subject: Re: New TEC News > >Chris- Thanks for the kudos. I believe you have an article pending on various >elongated internet sites. I did not use it this issue because I didn't want >to overwhelm our non-electronic members with barrels full of cyberspace. They >have been the backbone of this club for years and are still the majority. The >trend is changing tho. If you have any more sites to add to your artilce >between now and the 1st of September, send them in. > >-Corey > >PS I''ll try to squeeze the owl in somewhere beginning with the January >issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Utah, Dino Machine Date: 25 Jul 1997 22:27:51 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-25 17:36:09 EDT, you write: << Just got off the phone with the folks at the Dinosaur Museum in Vernal, UT. According to the girl I spoke with the machine produces a half-dollar size token and the cost is $1.00. She did not have the name/contact info of the company, but promised to leave that info on my voice mail later today. If she comes thru then I will post the info tonight. Don't know if this is actually the same machine that we've been talking about, but it's the only one they've got int the park according to the girl I spoke with (although she didn't seem incredibly knowledgeable about many things). >> This is not the machine I used....my utah pennie is definatly pennie sized.. Maybe this is not the place I got my pennie at..or maybe they got a new machine! It didn't cost a dollar either! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Naming the Owl Date: 25 Jul 1997 22:35:53 -0400 Chris Aahz wrote: > Anyone know how expensive > these coins are? I'd like to add one to my collection of TEC coins. Around $400 and up. You can get a crummy one for less but you get what you pay for. Don't forget, these large silver coins are about 2400 years old! Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Digest version coming soon!! Date: 25 Jul 1997 20:06:28 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Matthew Birchard wrote: > My god yes! This is not the only list I'm on, as I've said, but this > list is by FAR the most active. Let's see, I deleted 54 messages last > night. Keep'em coming! Fifty-Four!! Ack. For those of you who feel bogged down by all these messages, a digest version of the list is coming soon. I promise!! This will mean you get one or two messages a day that contains a large number of messages. Perfect for those who read more then they post or who have limits on their e-mail traffic. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 25 Jul 1997 20:07:55 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > Let's see, the exact locations of those 3 Solvang machines would be: ...filled in if I knew them. I have three different Solvang coins in my collection. All rolled on recent coins. Solvang is one of my planned stops on the trip to DL, so will provide details then. Peace, Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: My articl in new TEC News (fwd) Date: 25 Jul 1997 20:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Bert made some great points regarding the merger of modern communications and elongate collecting. Perhaps we could establish an internet/computer column in TEC News as a regular feature. The column could address what is happening each month as well as cover the basics that Bert mentioned. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 25 Jul 1997 20:25:07 -0700 Aahz, Thanks for help on the Solvang coins. Also, (whoa, we are having an earthquake here in San Diego! Hold on a second... Well, that was exciting! Pictures are now off center, and the dog is barking, but all else OK.) You should check the Madonna Inn. They had a machine and I bet it is still there. They may have more than one, so please ask them and get an extra of each (including Solvang) for me so I can scan them and get them on the Locator. I will bring trade coins to DL on the 7th. Thanks! bc On 7/25/97 8:07 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > ...filled in if I knew them. I have three different Solvang >coins in my collection. All rolled on recent coins. Solvang is one of >my planned stops on the trip to DL, so will provide details then. > > Peace, > > Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Naming the Owl Date: 25 Jul 1997 20:23:39 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote: > Chris Aahz wrote: > > Anyone know how expensive > > these coins are? I'd like to add one to my collection of TEC coins. > > Around $400 and up. You can get a crummy one for less but you get what > you pay for. Don't forget, these large silver coins are about 2400 > years old! The one I saw certainly didn't look silve, maybe it's a different coin. I saw the picture in the Numismatic News of July 22, pages 29 and 31. I don't need one in great shape, just one w/ the owl visible. I know that I see some ancients going for a couple bucks each, so I was hopeful. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Utah, Dino Machine Date: 25 Jul 1997 20:34:08 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > This is not the machine I used....my utah pennie is definatly pennie sized.. > Maybe this is not the place I got my pennie at..or maybe they got a new > machine! It didn't cost a dollar either! > Liz Down Liz, we believe you 8-) As I said, the girl I spoke with was not very bright. When did you get your penny? BTW, I never got the promised call back either. I had a feeling that I'd be forgotten as soon as the phone was put down. If someone else would like to try, please do. I am much better in text then on the phone. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ... <...> Subject: (elongates) Digest version, WDW coins etc. Date: 25 Jul 1997 22:36:19 -0500 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC994B.2D431820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whew! Thanks! I was going to ask if "Digesting" was possible. I want to thank Bert for that nice message of support for our "on-line = only" collectors. I would have never known about the TEC or other = collectors if I didn't have my Internet and E-mail. It's faster and more = fun! I don't like to wait for the newsletter that only comes 4 times a = year to hear about our hobby! I'm all for a special section for the = "Internet'ers". What ever happened to a listing of all TEC members' = email addresses? Congratulations to those who have committed to getting the Disney World = collection. I'm jealous! If I had the extra cash right now.....but I = just got a bigger monitor and owe CompUSA my next paycheck! How did y'all hear about getting the WDW coins? (I was out of commission = with broken e-mail around that time.) Does anyone know how long elongated coins have been available at the = Disney Parks? I don't remember seeing them there 12 years ago. If anyone has an extra Pooh coin....I'll trade 2 for 1 or purchase it = from them. ... trueWeb Design ... http://www.truewebdesign.com ---------- Sent: Friday, July 25, 1997 3:06 PM On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Matthew Birchard wrote: > My god yes! This is not the only list I'm on, as I've said, but this=20 > list is by FAR the most active. Let's see, I deleted 54 messages last = > night. Keep'em coming! Fifty-Four!! Ack. For those of you who feel bogged down by all=20 these messages, a digest version of the list is coming soon. I=20 promise!! This will mean you get one or two messages a day that = contains=20 a large number of messages. Perfect for those who read more then they=20 post or who have limits on their e-mail traffic. 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For those of you who are new (or sorta new) to the list and those who may have missed something, I have finally learned how to access the list archives and will share that info with all of you. Ain't I sweet ;) Okay, first, you send a message to Majordomo@XMission.com with 'index elongates' in the body. You will receive an automated response that looks something like this: >>>> index elongates .: total 2 drwxrwxr-x 2 vmphntr domo 512 Jul 1 08:33 archive ./archive: total 1244 -rw-r--r-- 1 domo domo 95345 Jun 30 13:13 elongates.9706 -rw-r--r-- 1 domo domo 526267 Jul 25 21:19 elongates.9707 Decide which one you want and send the message: get elongates archive/FILENAME to majordomo@xmission.com, replacing FILENAME with the name of the file you want (ie. elongates.9706). It will be e-mailed to you. Remember, this is a UNIX system so things are case sensitive and that's a forward slash! That's all there is to it! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Keith Diehl wrote: > Here's what works for my list: > > Send the message > > index montgomery_boats > > to majordomo@xmission.com. You will receive a list of archive file names via > > > > > ---------- > > From: Scot Denhalter > > To: 'xmlistadmin@xmission.com' > > Subject: Can't "Get" an archived file > > Date: Friday, July 25, 1997 12:32 PM > > > > I keep getting turned down by majordomo when I post the get command. > > > > I am following the prescribed command form: > > I am posting the command as: > > But I get back a response that tells me: 'lds-research.9706' for list 'lds-research'.> > > > > I assume the filename is correct. I got that from an "index" command as: > > > > total 2 > > drwxrwxr-x 2 sdenhalt domo 512 Jul 1 14:48 archive > > > > ./archive: > > total 198 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 domo domo 54399 Jul 1 14:08 lds-research.9706 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 domo domo 46063 Jul 17 12:27 lds-research.9707 > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > Scot > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Digest version, WDW coins etc. Date: 25 Jul 1997 20:57:13 -0700 (PDT) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC994B.2D431820 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, ... wrote: > Whew! Thanks! I was going to ask if "Digesting" was possible. Actually, thank Bert. He brought it up about a month ago, I forgot, and he recently brought it up again. I sent a message to xmission support last night and got no response today. I doubt I'll hear anythng over the weekend, so won't have anything else to report 'til Monday at the earliest. If I haven't heard by Monday night, I'll send another message and start harrassing other people there as well. My goal at the moment is the end of the week. Anyone considering quitting the list due to high traffic, please give me a week! That's all I ask. > > I want to thank Bert for that nice message of support for our "on-line only" collectors. I would have never known about the TEC or other collectors if I didn't have my Internet and E-mail. It's faster and more fun! I don't like to wait for the newsletter that only comes 4 times a year to hear about our hobby! I'm all for a special section for the "Internet'ers". What ever happened to a listing of all TEC members' email addresses? You just hit on my primary motivations for starting this list in the first place. And, IMHO, it has been a screaming success thus far. > How did y'all hear about getting the WDW coins? (I was out of commission with broken e-mail around that time.) Bert found Big Al's website and asked the list if we thought $300 was a fair price for the set. Then others got involved, Big Al got swamped with penny requests, and the rest is pretty obvious. > Does anyone know how long elongated coins have been available at the Disney Parks? I don't remember seeing them there 12 years ago. This is a VERY important question to me as well. The two projects I currently have are cataloging the Lord's Prayer elongates and working on publication of a Disney Elongates book (pamphlet, monograph, whatever.) 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(... ) wrote >Whew! Thanks! I was going to ask if "Digesting" was possible. The Digest will be a wonderful way to get the email in a compact form. I use Claris eMailer which can search through my email and find key words, so it also will allow me to (in effect) keep my own archive on my system. >Does anyone know how long elongated coins have been available at the >Disney Parks? I don't remember seeing them there 12 years ago. Kathy, my sources at WDW and Disneyland say the machines have been at WDW since 1995 and DL for the last 10 years. I have not asked about the Disney Japan or France Parks (though they are not owned by Disney, per a Cast Member I talked to recently). >If anyone has an extra Pooh coin....I'll trade 2 for 1 or purchase it from >them. I have an extra Pooh and will be happy to trade. Please send me your address and I will get it in the mail. Take Care Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Digest version, WDW coins etc. Date: 25 Jul 1997 21:10:58 -0700 On 7/25/97 8:57 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > Bert found Big Al's website and asked the list if we thought $300 >was a fair price for the set. Then others got involved, Big Al got >swamped with penny requests, and the rest is pretty obvious. I would love to take credit, was it was not me. Pete, Jeff, did one of you find Big Al? Y'awl know Big Al is one of the Country Bear Jamboree bears, yes? bc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Digest version, WDW coins etc. Date: 25 Jul 1997 21:15:35 -0700 On 7/25/97 8:57 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > This is a VERY important question to me as well. The two >projects I currently have are cataloging the Lord's Prayer elongates and >working on publication of a Disney Elongates book (pamphlet, monograph, >whatever.) Hey, Talk to Willy, he can sell you a silver dime with the Lord's Prayer on it. It sounds very cool and I am going to order a couple. I only have 1 smashed dime in my collection and would like to find the locations (Hmmm, there goes Bert asking for Locations again!) of more dime machines. FYI, I heard from Willy that Ray Dillard has denomination sets (gee, this is starting to sound like a religion)... denomination sets with a half dollar in them. MUST HAVE ONE! bc 3-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Bert on the Brain Date: 25 Jul 1997 21:10:39 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > On 7/25/97 8:57 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > > > Bert found Big Al's website and asked the list if we thought $300 > >was a fair price for the set. Then others got involved, Big Al got > >swamped with penny requests, and the rest is pretty obvious. > > I would love to take credit, was it was not me. Pete, Jeff, did one of > you find Big Al? Y'awl know Big Al is one of the Country Bear Jamboree > bears, yes? Ack! I've got Bert on the brain! I keep typing his name instead of whoever I'm talking about. Fo r those of you who think there may be something untoward causing this problem, it's not what you think: It's actually got to do with a dog and a tire. 'Nuff said. Jeff posted the first message! Sorry Jeff. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Digest version, WDW coins etc. Date: 26 Jul 1997 00:20:10 -0700 Bert Creighton wrote: > FYI, I heard from Willy that Ray Dillard has denomination sets (gee, this > is starting to sound like a religion)... denomination sets with a half > dollar in them. MUST HAVE ONE! bc Check the TEC Newsletter: Denominational sets (including haves) of both the ANA and TEC coins are availible either from Ray at the conventions, or from TEC directly. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Elongated dimes Date: 25 Jul 1997 21:21:11 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > I only have 1 > smashed dime in my collection and would like to find the locations (Hmmm, > there goes Bert asking for Locations again!) of more dime machines. Well, denomination sets are not that uncommon. Willy also offers a denomination set of his MCCC coins. Also, if you receheck the trade list that Gina posted last night, you just may find a dime on there as well. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 25 Jul 1997 21:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! Okay, as most of you know, the first ever Official Elongated Coin Mailing List Meet and Trade-Fest will be happening Sunday, September 7th at The Elongatedest Place on Earth: DISNEYLAND! Attendance WILL be taken and I expect to see each and EVERY ONE OF YOU 8-) Ok, ok I'll be happy to see whoever can make it. Anywayz, this gives me the opportunity to take my first ever elongated road trip. I'm planning on leaving the San Francisco Bay Area sometime Friday morning and taking 101/1 sown to the LA area, collecting all the way. Saturday is dedicated to collecting the LA area, Sunday is the meet, and Monday I head north on I-5 continuing the hunt. What makes me think the list cares about my travel plans? Well, I need your help. (Wow, that's a shock). I just tacked a brand new California map up on the wall and have begun putting in pins at known machine locations (Morro Bay, Pismo Beach, Santa Barbara, Madonna Inn, Harris Ranch, Solvang, and Buellton so far). If you know of any other locations along my planned route please let me know!! I intend to collect plenty of trade stock as well, so there are benefits for everyone. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 26 Jul 1997 02:09:08 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-25 23:12:15 EDT, you write: > ...filled in if I knew them. I have three different Solvang > coins in my collection. All rolled on recent coins. Solvang is one of > my planned stops on the trip to DL, so will provide details then. > I think there is one at the Pea Soup Anderson's also. Some in the plaza near the town's main intersection, one near the big wind mill, a couple in the alley near the wind mill, one almost infront of a gift shop called Katrina's, one just down the "alley" in front of the toy store that has the same owner as the gift shop (off the main drag in a "flag lot"). Think the owner's name is Ray he will know of other locations too. Hope it helps. It's been about a year since I was there. Happy Collecting, -Bob TEC#2033 Man, I just re-read my directions on how to find the machines!! No wonder I always get lost! :-( ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) The INTERNATIONAL Elongated Coin Mailing List Date: 25 Jul 1997 23:12:00 -0700 (PDT) I just had to share this with the list. We just went international!! Yes, the first subscriber with a non-US e-mail address has joined The Elongated Coin Mailing List. I'm not going to name names, if they want to introduce themselves they will. But I was so excited I just had to share. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trent Schwartz Subject: (elongates) Where can I find a press? Date: 26 Jul 1997 02:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Hi there all!, Driving home tonight from my job in a large tourist district, I came up with a great idea! There are no coin presses in the area. I could make some money by putting machines into area attractions. Maybe just one or two at first, but then a whole series so that people end up collecting them just like I've seen at Disney. I'm a university student and I think it'd be a great way to keep some money coming in. I would really like to get one set up by the end of the summer - so I only have about a month to do so. I'd be looking at putting the first one in the attraction I work at. Perhaps they'd let me have the space for free at first. I know I could sell at least 100 a day. Can anyone let me in on where I can find such machines... Manual or Automatic. And most importantly, what kind of costs am I looking at here. Thanks for any help you can provide me. Feel free to e-mail me. Trent Schwartz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 25 Jul 1997 23:17:44 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-25 23:12:15 EDT, you write: > > > ...filled in if I knew them. I have three different Solvang > > coins in my collection. All rolled on recent coins. Solvang is one of > > my planned stops on the trip to DL, so will provide details then. > > > I think there is one at the Pea Soup Anderson's also. I thought PSA was actually in Buellton. Not to be semantical or anything. I realize they're practically within walking distance of each other, but... > Some in the plaza > near the town's main intersection, one near the big wind mill, a couple in > the alley near the wind mill, one almost infront of a gift shop called > Katrina's, one just down the "alley" in front of the toy store that has the > same owner as the gift shop (off the main drag in a "flag lot"). Think the > owner's name is Ray he will know of other locations too. Wow, that's five seperate locations, with 'some' listed for a couple locations! Disneyland may soon be replaced as the most machine populated area in California! > > Hope it helps. It's been about a year since I was there. > Absolutely!! Looks like I'll be spending some pretty derious time in Solvang in Sept. > Man, I just re-read my directions on how to find the machines!! No wonder I > always get lost! :-( Well I certainly wasn't going to comment on it Bob. I accept ANY information, regardless of how convoluted. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Where can I find a press? Date: 25 Jul 1997 23:57:42 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, Trent Schwartz wrote: > Hi there all!, Hello Trent, and welcome to the list! > Driving home tonight from my job in a large tourist district, I came up > with a great idea! There are no coin presses in the area. I Well, if I understand the Internic system properly, then the .ca in your e-mail address means you're in Canada. If this is the case, then the reason you don't see any machines in your area is because it is illegal to 'deface' Canadian coins in any way, including elongating them. > could make some money by putting machines into area attractions. Maybe > just one or two at first, but then a whole series so > that people end up collecting them just like I've seen at Disney. I'm a Psssst...c'mere...... The first one's free....... Muwahahahaha Yep, that's exactly how I got started. > Can anyone let me in on where I can find such machines... Manual or > Automatic. And most importantly, what kind of costs am > I looking at here. Machines typically cost somewhere between $1000 and $4000. One subscriber has spent many moons searching for a machine for under a grand. Here's a few leads: BKornoelje@aol.com has informed me that he is offering a machine, two die rolls (containing 5 different designs), and a large stock of coins for $2500. From the classifieds of the most recent TEC News I learned that: Rocky Rockholt (RockyRockholt@msn.com) offers coin-op machines for $3200 plus shipping and Hand-cranked machines for $2195 plus shipping. Bob Dubois has an "Antique Chrome Handcrank" for sale with two designs from the 1939-40 San Francisco Golden Gate International Exposition. No price given. (Phone: (707) 765-9781) <<>> The previous issue of TEC News has: Karen Morrison (P.O. Box 53, Victor, CO 80860-0053, (719)689-2346) was offering an "Early Frank Brazzell brass hand-operated elongating machine. On ornate custom built chrome stand with wheels (disassembles). With 4 Frank Brazzell dies, one Adam J. Cool die and lots of accessories. Great Condition. $2800.00" The issue before THAT (We're talking January now): Myles Romney (3919 Oliver Dr., Salt Lake City, UT 84124, Phone:801-278-8252, FAX: 801-272-5848) was offering a one-year old Brazzell machine (presumably the same model as above). When you contact any of these people, you can always ask them if they know of anyone else with machines available. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Naming the Owl Date: 26 Jul 1997 04:35:23 -0700 Bob Fritsch wrote: > > I also don't know if the Owl has a name, other than Athena's Owl. It's > the same as the one on the Athenian Tetradrachm of ancient Greece. In > their mythology, the owl flew around the world every night gathering > news of what was happening. > > If we don't have a name for it, I suggest a contest to NAME THE OWL. > No, don't put your ideas on the net immediately in a rush of > enthusiasm! To give all TEC members a chance, it must be done through > announcement in _TEC News_, with definite dates for start and finish. I > would be glad to serve as the contest chairman and would take input by > any means (E-Mail, SnailMail, Pony Express...). The Board could serve > as the judges. > > How about it, Mr. President? Since Gus is not on line, I assume you were referring to Me... However, you might be jumping the gun a bit. Anyway, I'm not sure if the owl has a name either... That's a good question for the TEC meeting. If the owl doesn't have a name, and I do become president of TEC... Then I say: Great Idea! And thanks for volunteering to chair the contest committee. Willy TEC 1857 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: Re: (elongates) Naming the Owl Date: 26 Jul 1997 07:30:35 -0400 Chris Aahz wrote: > I don't need one in great shape, just one w/ the owl visible. I > know that I see some ancients going for a couple bucks each, so I was > hopeful. As an alternative, look in world coin junk boxes for the 1 and 2 Drachma coins of Greece dated 1973. It depicts the owl and would cost you a dime or a quarter or so. Might be fun to get a handful and roll them. Many dealers at coin shows have these boxes. You would have to dig through them to find the coins (DON'T ask the dealer, "Do you have this coin in your junk box"!). After all, the chase is half the fun. Sal Falcone in San Jose has loads of this stuff and might even be willing to help you find them. Regards, Bob Fritsch TEC #1871 rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Where can I find a press? Date: 26 Jul 1997 08:31:32 -0700 Trent, Welcome to our list! It is great to have you with us. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but as Aahz says it is illegal to deface coins in Canada. I worked on this issue a couple of months ago and found no legal way to smash coins. Actually, Canadian Criminal Code, Chapter C-46, Part XII Offenses Relating To Currency, Section 456 Defacing Current Coins reads: "Everyone who (a) defaces a current coin, or (b) utters a current coin that has been defaced, is guilty of an offense punishable on summary conviction." Sooo, you say, I could pay that parking ticket and not even worry about it... BUT... the penalty is up to $2,000 and up to 2 years in prison. (I wonder if they teach engraving in Canadian prisons 8-) ) Notice it says any current coin, not any Canadian coin. I'm not a lawyer, but I would guess that means even US pennies... You could use copper blanks, but that sort of removes the magic of converting a coin into a treasure. I'm not sure about taking elongates into Canada, is that "uttering." I missed school the day they taught uttering... There have been some reports of 'rogue rollers' producing elongated coins in Canada. If anyone ever finds any of their coins I would love to get 1 of each for my collection. In this one case I will not add them to the Smashed Coin Locator. So Trent, sorry for the way this turns out. My personal opinion is that the engravers/designers are artists and I love to support artists. This is not defacing coins in my way of looking at it. Hey, someone could say the Mints are defacing copper from it's natural state (ever see the big copper pits in the US Southwest?). I wish there was a way to change the Canadian law. It is hard to think about some of our great designers/artists in the same thought as "$2,000 fine/2 years jail." Bert Creighton On 7/25/97 11:16 PM Trent Schwartz (tschwart@uoguelph.ca ) wrote >Driving home tonight from my job in a large tourist district, I came up >with a great idea! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trent Schwartz Subject: Re: (elongates) Where can I find a press? Date: 26 Jul 1997 11:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Well, I actually _have_ seen one guy out there every day rolling pennies by hand - so it seems that someone is doing it. I imagine he's using US pennies which I couldn't see as being a problem. Most of the tourists in the area are American any way so there's no big deal there. I'm going to stop by today with my Canadian pennies and see if he'll smash them. I'll also ask some 'naive' questions to guage the market these things get. I was originally thinking of a coin operated press - but perhaps a hand cranked one will do for now. I thought that I'd be able to get one for under a grand. With the prices I've heard though I'm not really sure this will happen this year. There's no question I would have done it if the opportunity had presented itself at the beginning of the summer. But with the busy season here a month from over, I'm just not sure. Thanks for all the help guys, Trent On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > Trent, > > Welcome to our list! It is great to have you with us. > > I hate to be the bearer of bad news but as Aahz says it is illegal to > deface coins in Canada. I worked on this issue a couple of months ago and > found no legal way to smash coins. > > Actually, Canadian Criminal Code, Chapter C-46, Part XII Offenses > Relating To Currency, Section 456 Defacing Current Coins reads: > > "Everyone who (a) defaces a current coin, or (b) utters a current coin > that has been defaced, is guilty of an offense punishable on summary > conviction." > > Sooo, you say, I could pay that parking ticket and not even worry about > it... BUT... the penalty is up to $2,000 and up to 2 years in prison. (I > wonder if they teach engraving in Canadian prisons 8-) ) > > Notice it says any current coin, not any Canadian coin. I'm not a lawyer, > but I would guess that means even US pennies... You could use copper > blanks, but that sort of removes the magic of converting a coin into a > treasure. I'm not sure about taking elongates into Canada, is that > "uttering." I missed school the day they taught uttering... > > There have been some reports of 'rogue rollers' producing elongated coins > in Canada. If anyone ever finds any of their coins I would love to get 1 > of each for my collection. In this one case I will not add them to the > Smashed Coin Locator. > > So Trent, sorry for the way this turns out. My personal opinion is that > the engravers/designers are artists and I love to support artists. This > is not defacing coins in my way of looking at it. Hey, someone could say > the Mints are defacing copper from it's natural state (ever see the big > copper pits in the US Southwest?). I wish there was a way to change the > Canadian law. It is hard to think about some of our great > designers/artists in the same thought as "$2,000 fine/2 years jail." > > Bert Creighton > > > > On 7/25/97 11:16 PM Trent Schwartz (tschwart@uoguelph.ca ) wrote > > >Driving home tonight from my job in a large tourist district, I came up > >with a great idea! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello Date: 26 Jul 1997 14:04:54 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-26 02:21:56 EDT, you write: > I thought PSA was actually in Buellton. Not to be semantical or > anything. I realize they're practically within walking distance of each > other, but... > You're right. A short distance for an EC!! :-) -Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) pennie prices Date: 26 Jul 1997 14:58:22 -0400 (EDT) If anyone has a price guied for elongates, could you look up the value of the following pennies....I want make an informed trade... Not that I don't trust you Jeff... Boston Museam of Science T-Rex non-zinc Space Shuttle with zinc Also...I have another strainge elongate: 43rd ANNUAL CONVENTION / MANA /OCT 20-22 1995 /PENNSAUKEN, NJ. The pennies is alined horizontaly with a circle in the midle. Inside the circle is a horse's head, or maybe it is a Knight chess piece, and something below it that looks like a plow maybe??? There is some greek writing in the circle too. If there is any info on this let me know!! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) pennie prices Date: 26 Jul 1997 12:37:23 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > If anyone has a price guied for elongates, could you look up the value of the > following pennies....I want make an informed trade... Not that I don't trust > you Jeff... One of the great things about collecting elongates (IMHO) is that there are no price guides. Most currently available elongated pennies have an issue price of 50c, nickels 75c, and quarters $1.00. Trading typically takes place on a one for one basis. There have been four books published about elongates, all of which included price guides, but the most recent one was published in 1991 and there have been literally thousands of designs rolled since then. What prices these guides DO have are not necessarily accurate due to the time that has passed since their publication. Older elongates and limited edition issues often cost more than 50c and do not fit into the one-for-one trading basis. When these coins are traded we must fall back to traditional collectibles pricing: what the buyer is willing to pay and what the seller is willing to accept. > > Boston Museam of Science > T-Rex non-zinc > Space Shuttle with zinc To the best of my knowledge the first two are currently available and the third may be a few years old, but wouldn't demand much of a premium. > > Also...I have another strainge elongate: > > 43rd ANNUAL CONVENTION / MANA /OCT 20-22 1995 /PENNSAUKEN, NJ. > The pennies is alined horizontaly with a circle in the midle. Inside the > circle is a horse's head, or maybe it is a Knight chess piece, and something > below it that looks like a plow maybe??? There is some greek writing in the > circle too. Many coin shows/conventions have elongates rolled to commemorate them. Ray Dillard has become famous for doing this. Look at the top of the coin, in the border. If there is a cursive RWD there then this is one of Ray's. While these coins are obviously only rolled at the show in question, they typically hold their 'currently available' pricing for about 10-15 years. This is primarily because the majority of the coins stay withing the collecting community and are thus readily available for trade/purchase. BTW, I collect coin show elongates and do not have this one. I would be more than happy to trade for it. If you do not have my trade list, let me know and I'll e-mail it to you. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) 1933 WF Elongate at eBay Date: 26 Jul 1997 13:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! For the World's Fair collectors, there is a new 1933 World's Fair elongate for auction at eBay. There are no specifics given on the coin, so I don't know which design it is, but I thought I'd pass on the info. > URL: http://www2.ebay.com/aw/itemfast.cgi?item=sds616 Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Where can I find a press? Date: 26 Jul 1997 13:35:14 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, Trent Schwartz wrote: > > Well, I actually _have_ seen one guy out there every day rolling pennies > by hand - so it seems that someone is doing it. I imagine he's using US > pennies which I couldn't see as being a problem. Most of the tourists in > the area are American any way so there's no big deal there. I'm going to > stop by today with my Canadian pennies and see if he'll smash them. If you pick up a few extras I'd be more then happy to trade for one or two! > On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > > There have been some reports of 'rogue rollers' producing elongated coins > > in Canada. If anyone ever finds any of their coins I would love to get 1 > > of each for my collection. In this one case I will not add them to the > > Smashed Coin Locator. I have numerous elongates rolled on Canadian cents, but do not know that any were actually rolled in Canada. Aside from anecdotal experience or first hand knowledge, there is no way to tell for sure. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Penny sized foriegn coins Date: 26 Jul 1997 13:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! I know we have a few people out there that collect traditional coins as well. Can anyone compile a short list of foriegn coins that could essentially pass for pennies? I've used Canadian pennies without a problem in automated machines, but would like to try other coins. I just don't jhave the time to search thru piles of references or dealer collections to discover what might work. If someone collects World Coins then they would be much farther down the road already. What would be really interesting would be rolling a coin that was holed at the mint! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Penny sized foriegn coins Date: 26 Jul 1997 14:03:18 -0700 Greetings, I have been working on this and have not had great results. Most coins I have tried do not fit in the slots (of automated machines). I'll try to summarize my results and post them. bc On 7/26/97 1:38 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote >Greetings and Salutations! > > I know we have a few people out there that collect traditional >coins as well. Can anyone compile a short list of foriegn coins that >could essentially pass for pennies? I've used Canadian pennies without a >problem in automated machines, but would like to try other coins. I just >don't jhave the time to search thru piles of references or dealer >collections to discover what might work. If someone collects World Coins >then they would be much farther down the road already. > > What would be really interesting would be rolling a coin that was >holed at the mint! > > Peace, > > Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) Canadian Law Online Reference Date: 26 Jul 1997 14:10:35 -0700 If you are interested in Canadian law and want to see the section on defacing coins, here's the starting point: Canadian Criminal Code, Chapter C-46, Part XII Offenses Relating To Currency, Section 456 Defacing Current Coins http://insight.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc-text.html Bert Location Keeper/Law Librarian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) pennie prices Date: 26 Jul 1997 17:10:52 -0700 > > > If anyone has a price guied for elongates, could you look up the value of the > > following pennies....I want make an informed trade... My Father once said: "One of my turds would be worth a millions dollars, if I could just find someone with a million dollars that agreed with me". The bottom line is, elongated coins (as with anything else) are worth whatever you are willing to pay for them. They are NOT generally investment opportunities! Like Chris said, most modern elongateds produced from open dies (not limited editions) are issued for between 50 cents and a buck (much less if purchased by the 100s). Supply and Demand will determine a coin's ultimate monetary value, though the enjoyment of owning a coin is what should be taken into consideration when making a purchase. Happy Collecting! -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) pennie prices Date: 26 Jul 1997 16:59:00 -0400 Chris Aahz wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > > > If anyone has a price guied for elongates, could you look up the value of the > > following pennies....I want make an informed trade... Not that I don't trust > > you Jeff... > > One of the great things about collecting elongates (IMHO) is that > there are no price guides. Most currently available elongated pennies > have an issue price of 50c, nickels 75c, and quarters $1.00. Trading > typically takes place on a one for one basis. > There have been four books published about elongates, all of > which included price guides, but the most recent one was published in > 1991 and there have been literally thousands of designs rolled since > then. What prices these guides DO have are not necessarily accurate due > to the time that has passed since their publication. > Older elongates and limited edition issues often cost more than > 50c and do not fit into the one-for-one trading basis. When these coins > are traded we must fall back to traditional collectibles pricing: what > the buyer is willing to pay and what the seller is willing to accept. > > > > > Boston Museam of Science > > T-Rex non-zinc > > Space Shuttle with zinc > > To the best of my knowledge the first two are currently available > and the third may be a few years old, but wouldn't demand much of a > premium. > I'm pretty sure none of these three pennies are available anymore. The Boston Museum of Science changes their dies about every 6 months or so per their maintenance dept. They're due for a change pretty soon then... Ben Lavine mcsquare@erols.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Penny sized foriegn coins Date: 26 Jul 1997 17:20:10 -0700 Chris Aahz wrote: >Can anyone compile a short list of foriegn coins that > could essentially pass for pennies? The best thing to do is visit your local coin shop or coin show. MANY have "junk boxes" of foreign coins that are dirt cheep. Just have a penny with you to size them up! Even if you had the list that you asked for.... Finding a dealer with that specific coin, and who is willing to dig for it, would be near impossible. As you already know, circulated coins produce the best reverses when placed in the "vending" type rolling machines... So, I find it quite enjoyable to search through junk boxes, from time to time, and pull out the coins that I think have the ideal toning to produce the best elongated specimen possible--not a sight-unseen purchase. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 26 Jul 1997 18:36:21 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-26 00:44:03 EDT, you write: << I just tacked a brand new California map up on the wall and have begun putting in pins at known machine locations (Morro Bay, Pismo Beach, Santa Barbara, Madonna Inn, Harris Ranch, Solvang, and Buellton so far). If you know of any other locations along my planned route please let me know!! I intend to collect plenty of trade stock as well, so there are benefits for everyone. >> There is a coin machine at Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk. It is my very First Coin! The unique thing about it is that it has writing on the back too. When I was there..about 12-13 years ago the machine was in one of the archade rooms. I hope this helps! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Where can I find a press? Date: 26 Jul 1997 18:36:36 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-26 11:28:52 EDT, you write: << Trent, Welcome to our list! It is great to have you with us. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but as Aahz says it is illegal to deface coins in Canada. I worked on this issue a couple of months ago and found no legal way to smash coins. Actually, Canadian Criminal Code, Chapter C-46, Part XII Offenses Relating To Currency, Section 456 Defacing Current Coins reads: "Everyone who (a) defaces a current coin, or (b) utters a current coin that has been defaced, is guilty of an offense punishable on summary conviction." >> But you are not DEfacing a coin....you are REfacing a coin!!! :) LIz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Utah, Dino Machine Date: 26 Jul 1997 18:36:37 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-26 14:44:37 EDT, you write: << we believe you 8-) As I said, the girl I spoke with was not very bright. When did you get your penny? >> I got the pennie about 2 years ago..summer of '95.....the summer after I graduated from highschool. I went on a cross-country trip to CA with my dad....who now lives there! BTW Utah is beautiful!!!! Liz PS What the heck is TEC?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) The INTERNATIONAL Elongated Coin Mailing List Date: 26 Jul 1997 18:36:33 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-26 04:55:52 EDT, you write: << I just had to share this with the list. We just went international!! Yes, the first subscriber with a non-US e-mail address has joined The Elongated Coin Mailing List. I'm not going to name names, if they want to introduce themselves they will. But I was so excited I just had to share. >> We want to see your trade list....we mean you no harm... just give us the list and you are free to go.... :) :) :) Finders Keepers!!!! Welcome to America! Lets see what you got! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 26 Jul 1997 15:59:13 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > There is a coin machine at Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk. It is my very First > Coin! The unique thing about it is that it has writing on the back too. When > I was there..about 12-13 years ago the machine was in one of the archade > rooms. I hope this helps! > Liz 12-13 years ago? Is this the Popeye coin or the Coaster/Logo? The current coin is the Coaster/Logo with the front saying "Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk" and the word Boardwalk large and shaped like a roller coaster w/ a coaster car on the top. The reverseis tect only with "Souvenir of..." I've never seen the Popeye coin and only know about it because an employee told me they used to have one. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Newest San Jose Machine Date: 26 Jul 1997 17:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Greetings & Salutations! On a tip from Bert, I cruised by Happy Hollow Petting Zoo in Kelley Park right here in San Jose. Sure enough, Bert was not hallucinating (this time ;) and there is a new San Francisco Penny Machine Company machine there. The coin is probably the cutest souvenir issue in my collection: It's a horizontal with "Happy Hollow Park & Zoo" written in lettering reminiscent of the big letters on the walls of a kindergarten. There is a train with five cars and steam coming out of the engine weaving its way across the top of the coin, four little critter footprints at the bottom and a mouse wqith his tail going through the 'o's in zoo. This is one of the machines where heads/tails is randomized due to the coin freefalling onto the roller entrance. Hmm....what else. It's the only machine at Kelley Park and has been there since "the beginning of summer", so I'm cataloging it as June 1st. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Penny and DIME Machine location Date: 27 Jul 1997 00:59:05 -0700 (PDT) This is the first report I have ever seen of an elongated dime machine. Anyone heading this way soon? > Subject: Re: CanAm RADP Squished Coin Alert! > From: dismusic@hotmail.com > Date: 1997/07/07 > Message-Id: <868314491.30281@dejanews.com> > Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney.parks > [11][More Headers] > > > > The Floro Four-o just got back from trip to Niagara Falls and Toronto, > > and we stopped at the Rainbow Outlet Mall (US side) on our way home. > > Imagine the joy and/or surprise when I found a penny press *and* a dime > > press! > > > > So, RADP folk who are planning to head north for the August meet, you > > won't have to go squishie-less! > > Don't worry!!! There's a squished coin press right on Clifton Hill - The > Street of Fun At The Falls! > > Trent > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: (elongates) Re: What the heck is TEC Date: 27 Jul 1997 05:25:15 -0700 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > > PS What the heck is TEC?? Hi Liz, TEC is an acronym for The Elongated Collectors. They yet to have an Official Web site, but I have info for them posted at: http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/tec.htm -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) 1933 WF Elongate at eBay Date: 27 Jul 1997 06:42:38 -0700 Chris Aahz wrote: > > Greetings and Salutations! > > For the World's Fair collectors, there is a new 1933 World's Fair > elongate for auction at eBay. There are no specifics given on the coin, > so I don't know which design it is, but I thought I'd pass on the info. > > > URL: http://www2.ebay.com/aw/itemfast.cgi?item=sds616 Personally, I'd have to think twice before paying $10 for ANY holed elongated cent! If anyone is really interested in the "oldies", I suggest writing to Ray Dillard (TEC VP) for his HUGE list (the list does not depict the coins, but it does site Martin-Dow codes). --Willy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Shapiro Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: What the heck is TEC Date: 27 Jul 1997 06:49:16 -0400 Willie: I got so interested in the TEC that I decided togo to your site fillout the apllication and join. Dave. William C. Massey wrote: > > Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > > > > PS What the heck is TEC?? > > Hi Liz, > TEC is an acronym for The Elongated Collectors. They yet to have an > Official Web site, but I have info for them posted at: > http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/tec.htm > > -- > Elongatedly Yours, > > William C. Massey > TEC #1857 > > ******************************************** > > P.S. > Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page > http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Digest version, WDW coins etc. Date: 27 Jul 1997 11:32:03 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-26 15:32:46 EDT, you write: > FYI, I heard from Willy that Ray Dillard has denomination sets (gee, this > is starting to sound like a religion)... denomination sets with a half > dollar in them. MUST HAVE ONE! bc > I've heard tell of a Susan B. Anthony $1. EC. -Bob Hoff TEC#2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Digest version, WDW coins etc. Date: 27 Jul 1997 10:19:45 -0700 Greetings, Is the Susan B. from Ray Dillard? Bert On 7/27/97 8:32 AM R0BERTH0FF@aol.com (R0BERTH0FF@aol.com ) wrote >I've heard tell of a Susan B. Anthony $1. EC. > >-Bob Hoff >TEC#2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) 1933 WF Elongate at eBay Date: 27 Jul 1997 10:25:02 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > > Personally, I'd have to think twice before paying $10 for ANY holed > elongated cent! Well, when I posted the URL it was only at $3.00. Personally, i don't think the chain hole detracts much from most designs. On some of the older issues I think it actually gives it a little more character. > > If anyone is really interested in the "oldies", I suggest writing to Ray > Dillard (TEC VP) for his HUGE list (the list does not depict the coins, > but it does site Martin-Dow codes). Does he charge for the list? How much? For those who don't get TEC News, Ray's address is: Ray Dillard P.O. Box 161 Fenton, MI 48430 Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Digest version, WDW coins etc. Date: 27 Jul 1997 10:27:30 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > I've heard tell of a Susan B. Anthony $1. EC. I've got one on its way to me as I write this. I won it at an eBay auction from Tony Dinto. If you're really nice, I might let you see it at Disneyland, Bert 8-) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "zinful" Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 27 Jul 1997 13:10:09 -0000 Hey Chris, I'm sure if you have these or not, but 2 machines are in Monterey and there is also a machine at this place called Casa de Fruita. O.K. now where is that. Let's see we were going N on the 5 and then headed E on the 152 and it was before Gilroy. It is a big produce stand/store with gift shops, petting zoo, train ride for kids. Casa de Fruita is not on the map (at least this map i have), but it is there. Maybe you could hit it on your return trip up the 5? or for future reference. Good Luck. Gina TEC #2109 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "zinful" Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongated dimes Date: 27 Jul 1997 13:31:00 -0000 > > Well, denomination sets are not that uncommon. Willy also offers > a denomination set of his MCCC coins. Also, if you receheck the trade > list that Gina posted last night, you just may find a dime on there as well. > > Peace, > > Aahz Yes I do have a smashed dime. Actually two. The is a machine in Cabazon where the two giant dinosaurs are off of the 10 Frwy in San Bernardino, CA. These dinosaurs were in a movie (Pee Wees Big Adventure) some time back. Just a little trivia. This dime has a Tyrannasaurus Rex on it. Also there is a smashed dime machine in LA on the city walk and is very cool. It is from a store called "Things from another World" and has a chess piece on it and web site address pressed on the back. I have one of each for trade if anybody wants them. Gina TEC #2109 zinful@prodigy.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "zinful" Subject: Re: (elongates) Digest version coming soon!! Date: 27 Jul 1997 15:19:57 -0000 > > > My god yes! This is not the only list I'm on, as I've said, but this > > list is by FAR the most active. Let's see, I deleted 54 messages last > > night. Keep'em coming! > > Fifty-Four!! Ack. For those of you who feel bogged down by all > these messages, a digest version of the list is coming soon. I > promise!! This will mean you get one or two messages a day that contains > a large number of messages. Perfect for those who read more then they > post or who have limits on their e-mail traffic. > > Peace, > > Aahz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris > I hadn't logged on for about a day and half and I had 86 messages today. I didn't mind. Although most as you know are repeated messages. Gina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongated dimes Date: 27 Jul 1997 17:20:39 -0700 Greetings, I would like to trade for the 2 dimes. I have a great quarter from San Francisco (one of my favorite coins) and another quarter from the Polar Bear Plunge at the San Diego Zoo (showing a Bear diving head first into the pool). Has anyone spoken for these dimes? Chris said you may be joining us at Disneyland. I hope you can make it. Thanks! Bert On 7/27/97 6:31 AM zinful (zinful@prodigy.net ) wrote >Yes I do have a smashed dime. Actually two. The is a machine in Cabazon >where the two giant dinosaurs are off of the 10 Frwy in San Bernardino, CA. > These dinosaurs were in a movie (Pee Wees Big Adventure) some time back. >Just a little trivia. This dime has a Tyrannasaurus Rex on it. > >Also there is a smashed dime machine in LA on the city walk and is very >cool. It is from a store called "Things from another World" and has a >chess piece on it and web site address pressed on the back. > >I have one of each for trade if anybody wants them. > >Gina >TEC #2109 >zinful@prodigy.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) Research Help Date: 27 Jul 1997 17:26:12 -0700 Greetings All, I need some research help on elongated penny from Hawaii. The coin holder has the reference 2EL-35A. Can anyone help with this reference? Thanks Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) SBA's etc. Date: 27 Jul 1997 20:53:29 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-27 13:17:43 EDT, you write: > Greetings, > > Is the Susan B. from Ray Dillard? > > Bert > > On 7/27/97 8:32 AM R0BERTH0FF@aol.com (R0BERTH0FF@aol.com ) wrote > > >I've heard tell of a Susan B. Anthony $1. EC. > > > >-Bob Hoff > >TEC#2033 > Don't know. Just heard. Just a thought, maybe we could have a contest of the oddest or bigest etc. EC? There must be some very unusual ones out there! -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 27 Jul 1997 20:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Hi; Please add to your locations: In Monterey, as of two weeks ago... I know of one machine at Fisherman's warf. About 1/2 way out on the warf on the right hand side. (If you collect tokens, be sure to stop into the Custom House. They have just added them.) One at a gift shop that specializes in "desk top waterfalls" on the main drag, "up the hill" from the warf, not too far from Taco Bell on the left side. Worth the walk. One of the nicest EC's I found in Monterey. Cannery Row has a few also. You can walk there on the pathway from Fisherman's Warf. Nice, walk about one mile or so. P.S. The Morro Bay machines may not be available before 11AM. But the cinnamon roll shop is open at 7:30 :-) (They are as close to The Rock as you can get and still be on dry land :-) -Bob Hoff TEC#2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Research Help Date: 27 Jul 1997 18:02:42 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > I need some research help on elongated penny from Hawaii. The coin holder > has the reference 2EL-35A. Can anyone help with this reference? Well, I can help tell you what they're not. Martin-Dow's "Yesterday's Elongateds" uses a coding system based on location so any Hawaii issue would be HAWxxx, so it's not from there. And I believer Rosato uses designer name (also three letters), so it's probably not from there either. Possibly either Dottie Dow's or Lee Martin's books that they wrote solo? I've never sen these so don't have a clue. Most likely it's a dealer code of some time. Can you describe the coin for us? Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Oddest/Biggest Date: 27 Jul 1997 18:08:10 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > Just a thought, maybe we could have a contest of the oddest or bigest etc. > EC? > There must be some very unusual ones out there! Well, the oddest/largest so far in my collection must be a 1966 British Half Penny. When elongated it's about the same size as an elongated Half Dollar (I've seen 'em although I don't have any). It's actually a Brazzell roll with a star and "Star/Silent/Studier". The design is pretty mundane, but the reverse is gorgeous with an old sailing ship on it. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 27 Jul 1997 18:10:28 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > P.S. The Morro Bay machines may not be available before 11AM. But the > cinnamon roll shop is open at 7:30 :-) (They are as close to The Rock as Fortunately, I'm not available at 7:30 am. I doubt I'll make it to Morro Bay before 11. And if I do I'll simply remove the fur from my tire and knock on the door 'til they let me in or the machines come out 8-) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Fritsch Subject: (elongates) Smashing Dimes Date: 27 Jul 1997 22:18:35 -0400 Where is it in the rules that you cannot run a dime through a penny machine? Sure, the rollers should be adjusted a bit to take the thinness of the dime, but I have gotten pretty good results with some penny machines that are set a little too tight. If there is a large margin between the design and the pointy end, that machine is probably a good candidate for a dime. Try it, you'll like it! Regards, Bob Fritsch rfritsch@concentric.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) SD Padres + Maryland Coin Update Date: 27 Jul 1997 22:30:43 -0700 Greetings All, I was at a San Diego Padre's game yesterday (yes, they won!) and walked the entire stadium looking for the hand-cranked machines I had found earlier. No luck. I finally went to the Customer Service desk and they said the machines were popular at the beginning of the season, and then things tapered off. (Guess you hit a saturation point and should get some new designs!!!). Wish I had gotten some trade stock before they folded. One other update. I just received a penny from a friend on the East Coast (of the US that is). It says "Annapolia Maryland" and has a crab in the center. It is horizontal and doesn't show much zinc. No further location was available -- BUT I'M WORKING ON IT! 8-) Willy, do you have any info on this one? Have a great week everyone! Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) SD Padres + Maryland Coin Update Date: 27 Jul 1997 22:58:44 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > (of the US that is). It says "Annapolia Maryland" and has a crab in the ^ I'm assuming this is a typo. No, I'm not being persnickety. It makes a difference. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) Spelling Counts! Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:27:09 -0700 OK, I accept the B+ grade on this report for missing the spelling 8-( YES, it is very important, sorry for rushing the report out. FYI -- There was a single day at Disneyland when they had a machine that was putting out 101 Dalmatian coins (Cruella De Vil, Pongo & Perdita, Dalmatian puppy) and they spelled it as Dalmations. Those are rare coins indeed! Sooo, sorry for the typo. Hey, anyone else have any coins where the spelling is wrong? (Sounds like the start of a very short thread...) bc On 7/27/97 10:58 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > >On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > >> (of the US that is). It says "Annapolia Maryland" and has a crab in the > ^ > > I'm assuming this is a typo. No, I'm not being persnickety. It >makes a difference. > > Peace, > > Aahz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Spelling Counts! Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:34:55 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > was a single day at Disneyland when they had a machine that was putting > out 101 Dalmatian coins (Cruella De Vil, Pongo & Perdita, Dalmatian > puppy) and they spelled it as Dalmations. Those are rare coins indeed! Ok, you caught me. The only reason I wanted the List Meet and Trade Session to be at Disneyland is because I'm hoping David will show up with this very penny so I can....umm...borrow it...Yeah...that's the ticket. > Hey, anyone else have any coins where the spelling is wrong? (Sounds like > the start of a very short thread...) I've got a few Lord's Prayer coins with typos (engravos?). Amongst the hundreds in my collection there are plenty of words (names, places, etc.) that I simply ASSUME are spelled right as I have no way of knowing. I doubt it's as rare as you think and I'd say they become more common (percentage-wise) as you go back into the oldies. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out... Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:43:34 -0700 Hi All, Here are some unconfirmed reports on machine locations: 1) Placerville, CA. Placerville Hardware Store (on Main Street) -- 3 designs. (Aahz, is this anywhere near you?) 2) Las Vegas, NV. "Al Meranta" has machines in 10 locations -- 741 Autumn Moon Drlve, Las Vegas, NV 89123, Phone: 702.269.8131, TEC#2010. (WIsh we'd had this info before Nikki left for Lost Wages!) 3) Gatlinburg, TN. On Main Street, 1 machine with 4 designs. Name on machine is J.E. Sossman, 615.546.6039, Knoxville, TN. 4) Chimney Rock Park, NC. 1 machine on top of the mountain, 4 designs. (Bet the service folks love to fix this one...) 5) Grandfather MT, NC. No further info. 6) Coor's Field, Denver, CO. No further info. 7) Kansas Turnpike (Oasis) - Sunflower, state outline with wheat, no further info. 8) Chamberline, SD. Al's Oasis. One machine, no further info. 9) William Vandenbos has one machine at Galatin Field (Airport) in Bozeman, MT. Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: Re: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out... Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:47:19 -0700 i'm BACK!!!!! > 2) Las Vegas, NV. "Al Meranta" has machines in 10 locations -- 741 > Autumn Moon Drlve, Las Vegas, NV 89123, Phone: 702.269.8131, > TEC#2010. (WIsh we'd had this info before Nikki left for Lost > Wages!) yeah! me, too;> so the good news is, i was able to check out barstow station again. and, ya'll guessed it...the bad news is, the machine is gone...*sniff* i asked at all the big casinos i hit, and none of them knew of any such machines. i thought that the kids areas would maybe have a couple, (i seem to make my money last a LOT longer in the kids area;>) as little souneirs for the cheap thrills, but no... oh, well. maybe i'll send them all nasty mail telling them of my disappointment (yeah, like that'll help)... pax!!! nikki -- "There's still a part of me that's 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out... Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:43:54 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > 1) Placerville, CA. Placerville Hardware Store (on Main Street) -- 3 > designs. (Aahz, is this anywhere near you?) Not really, it's past Sacramento on the way to South Lake Tahoe. I WANT to take a collecting trip weekend to both Tahoe and Reno, but it's not in the budget 'til after the Disneyland meet in Sept. October maybe. Is the name of the store "Placerville Hardware Store"? I could try to get a confirmation, possible sample, from friends/relatives driving to Tahoe. > 2) Las Vegas, NV. "Al Meranta" has machines in 10 locations -- 741 Autumn I assume Al is the rollers name. Do you know his .sig? > 9) William Vandenbos has one machine at Galatin Field (Airport) in > Bozeman, MT. Ditto. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) SD Padres + Maryland Coin Update Date: 28 Jul 1997 02:54:58 -0700 Bert Creighton wrote: I just received a penny from a friend on the East Coast > (of the US that is). It says "Annapolia Maryland" and has a crab in the > center. It is horizontal and doesn't show much zinc. No further location > was available -- BUT I'M WORKING ON IT! 8-) Willy, do you have any info > on this one? Sorry, I've never even seen it. And I live only a half hour from there! However, If you see any initals on the coin, I may be able to get some info. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out... Date: 28 Jul 1997 00:04:09 -0700 On 7/27/97 11:43 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote >On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > >> 1) Placerville, CA. Placerville Hardware Store (on Main Street) -- 3 >> designs. (Aahz, is this anywhere near you?) The info I received said "Placerville Hardward Store." > > Not really, it's past Sacramento on the way to South Lake Tahoe. >I WANT to take a collecting trip weekend to both Tahoe and Reno, but it's >not in the budget 'til after the Disneyland meet in Sept. October >maybe. Is the name of the store "Placerville Hardware Store"? I could >try to get a confirmation, possible sample, from friends/relatives >driving to Tahoe. > >> 2) Las Vegas, NV. "Al Meranta" has machines in 10 locations -- 741 Autumn > > I assume Al is the rollers name. Do you know his .sig? Don't have any further info on Al or William... Sorry 8-( > >> 9) William Vandenbos has one machine at Galatin Field (Airport) in >> Bozeman, MT. > > Ditto. Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: (elongates) SPM Date: 28 Jul 1997 03:11:31 -0700 Hi Gang! Last night (Sunday), I had the dubious distinction of being the first to sign the guest book at the Squished Penny Museum (SPM) in Washington, D.C. It was all that I had anticipated, and more! In fact, my all to short visit lasted for four hours... they practically had to throw me out :) Christine and Pete (the SPM curators) have managed to capture the sheer joy of elongated coin collecting in their humble yet elegant museum. If EVER in the D.C. area, I highly recommend setting an appointment to view this most wonderful spectacle for yourself.... And be sure to bring a few squished coins for trading--I was lucky enough to trade for a few EC issues that I had never seen before! The price of admission, you may wonder??? FREE (a bargain at twice that price). -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM Date: 28 Jul 1997 00:18:42 -0700 Pete, Do you accept digital signatures? If so, can you log me as the 2nd to sign the book! I will follow this with a REAL signature when I get to DC later this year. Congrats on your new location! Hope to see it soon! Bert On 7/28/97 3:11 AM William C. Massey (massey@clark.net ) wrote >Hi Gang! > >Last night (Sunday), I had the dubious distinction of being the first to >sign the guest book at the Squished Penny Museum (SPM) in Washington, >D.C. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) TEC Meeting issues Date: 28 Jul 1997 00:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! Well the ANA Convention is this coming week/end and I know there are a few of you attending. The TEC Meeting is Friday morning and I hope you will all be attending. For those that are I thought I'd provide a concise list of issies that have come up here that perhaps should be addressed by TEC. If they matter to you, you should take the opportunity to 'lobby' TEC people outside the meeting as well as during it. 1) What happened with the elections this year? There was essentially no nomination process and no way for non-attendees to vote. 2) Who's in the third Director/Governor slot? If there is no one, then this should be filled. 3) Several people have not been getting their free coin with TEC News. Is there some way to make the system here more reliable? 4) Any chance of getting a regular column in TEC News about 'net happenings? 5) Vote William C. Massey for President!!!! 6) The TEC website NEEDS to happen. Talk it up and give your ideas. 7) Any time you can sneak in a mention of The Elongated Coin Mailing List (and the subscription URL) would be greatly appreciated. 8) If you see any cheap Lord's Prayer coins, I need them for my current research project and will be happy to trade or purchase. 9) Speaking of trade, I still never got anybody to agree to get the Mint Mile into Show elongates set. I'm hoping someone's planning a surprise for me. 10) Most important of all: HAVE FUN!!!! and write a show report to the list when you get back. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Smashing Dimes Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:51:28 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote: > Where is it in the rules that you cannot run a dime through a penny > machine? Sure, the rollers should be adjusted a bit to take the I seem to recall that I tried this on one machine back when I first started collecting and it didn't work. Since I would have ssaved ANY result, I believe the slide just wouldn't take the coin. I'll try it on future machines, though and see what happens. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Smashing Dimes Date: 28 Jul 1997 00:53:58 -0700 On 7/27/97 11:51 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > >On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote: > >> Where is it in the rules that you cannot run a dime through a penny >> machine? Sure, the rollers should be adjusted a bit to take the > > I seem to recall that I tried this on one machine back when I >first started collecting and it didn't work. Since I would have ssaved >ANY result, I believe the slide just wouldn't take the coin. I'll try it >on future machines, though and see what happens. > Willy says he rolls silver dimes with great results. Not that I have a bunch of silver dimes lying around. Maybe this works best on hand cranks and not on Eurolinks or others with the slide that pushes the coins into the machine... I'll look into it... bc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) Smashing Dimes Date: 28 Jul 1997 04:28:43 -0700 Bert Creighton wrote: > > Willy says he rolls silver dimes with great results. Not that I have a > bunch of silver dimes lying around. Maybe this works best on hand cranks > and not on Eurolinks or others with the slide that pushes the coins into > the machine... I'll look into it... Please allow me to clarify this issue: When I roll dimes (silver or otherwise), it is on MY PERSONAL rolling machines! I MUST adjust the pressure of the squish considerably, prior to rolling different denominations of coinage. While on the topic of ECs other than cents: Coin rollers love to squish money! We'll flatten just about any coin or token that we want our designs to reside on. Rolling higher denominations result in higher inventory holding costs. When you add the fact that there are usually a few wasted coins during the setup process, it is easy to see why you don't see a lot of rolled halves and dollars. I hope that this information is of some value to all on this wonderful mailing list! -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) An informative adventure! Date: 28 Jul 1997 09:28:41 -0400 Hi everybody, My wife and I decided to leave Boston at 3:00pm Saturday to squish some pennies in New York. We finally fell asleep in a New Jersey rest stop at 4:00am. What's the result of this adventure? We mapped 3/4 of the machines on the New Jersey turnpike, and have detailed information of the World Trade Center in New York. Plus, we have the dealer's name who does all the machines and contact information. Alas, all the information is at home. I'll type it in tonight and mail it tomorrow. A couple of highlights: Lords Prayer pennies! Unicorn pennies! I love you NY/New York pennies! More information tomorrow. Yes, I picked up trading stock and stuff for the people I owe pennies to (including the penny page!) - Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Penny and DIME Machine location Date: 28 Jul 1997 09:39:38 -0400 Yes, in a week or so. We had to postpone the trip for financial reasons. - Jeff At 12:59 AM 7/27/97 -0700, you wrote: > > This is the first report I have ever seen of an elongated dime >machine. Anyone heading this way soon? > >> Subject: Re: CanAm RADP Squished Coin Alert! >> From: dismusic@hotmail.com >> Date: 1997/07/07 >> Message-Id: <868314491.30281@dejanews.com> >> Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney.parks >> [11][More Headers] >> >> >> > The Floro Four-o just got back from trip to Niagara Falls and Toronto, >> > and we stopped at the Rainbow Outlet Mall (US side) on our way home. >> > Imagine the joy and/or surprise when I found a penny press *and* a dime >> > press! >> > >> > So, RADP folk who are planning to head north for the August meet, you >> > won't have to go squishie-less! >> >> Don't worry!!! There's a squished coin press right on Clifton Hill - The >> Street of Fun At The Falls! >> >> Trent >> > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist >The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668 >List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) >Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm >"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM Date: 28 Jul 1997 09:51:00 PDT I tried sticking the guest register up to my computer screen to see if I could capture the digital signature - but to no avail. I guess you have to show up in person - we'd be glad to have you. And thanks for the visit, Willy. I think it's only fair that we share part of your entry with the rest o' the penny gang: "I had a smashing time...". (Truly a penny nut, huh?) Pete Pete, Do you accept digital signatures? If so, can you log me as the 2nd to sign the book! Bert On 7/28/97 3:11 AM William C. Massey (massey@clark.net ) wrote >Hi Gang! > >Last night (Sunday), I had the dubious distinction of being the first to >sign the guest book at the Squished Penny Museum (SPM) in Washington, >D.C. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) Big Al Date: 28 Jul 1997 09:08:41 -0500 Just got home from a long weekend painting. Saw the note about who found Big Al. I asked someone weeks ago about getting a set from Disney World and someone emailed me with his address as well as another. Can't find out who emailed me though. Will look around for it. Janelle (Minnesota Flats) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Big Al Date: 28 Jul 1997 10:35:05 -0400 It was me! I'm taking care of the WDW stuff. :) I'll wait an additional week in order for Chris Aahz, so he can share the joy! - Jeff :) At 09:08 AM 7/28/97 -0500, you wrote: >Just got home from a long weekend painting. Saw the note about who >found Big Al. I asked someone weeks ago about getting a set from Disney >World and someone emailed me with his address as well as another. Can't >find out who emailed me though. Will look around for it. > >Janelle (Minnesota Flats) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) I didn't get my newsletter. :( Date: 28 Jul 1997 11:02:30 -0400 Any ideas why I didn't get my TEC newsletter? - Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) penny prices Date: 28 Jul 1997 11:27:03 -0400 Hi Liz, It is true. At the Boston Museum of Science, the following pennies are currently available: Planet penny. Planetarium penny. That's why I offered to do the trade that I did. If anyone wants to see what they look like - check out the great penny page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage - Jeff :) At 02:58 PM 7/26/97 -0400, you wrote: >If anyone has a price guied for elongates, could you look up the value of the >following pennies....I want make an informed trade... Not that I don't trust >you Jeff... > >Boston Museam of Science >T-Rex non-zinc >Space Shuttle with zinc ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Oddest/Biggest Date: 28 Jul 1997 12:26:21 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-27 21:26:35 EDT, you write: > Well, the oddest/largest so far in my collection must be a 1966 > British Half Penny. When elongated it's about the same size as an > elongated Half Dollar (I've seen 'em although I don't have any). It's > actually a Brazzell roll with a star and "Star/Silent/Studier". The > design is pretty mundane, but the reverse is gorgeous with an old sailing > ship on it. > > Peace, > > Aahz Sounds like a beauty! -Bob Hoff TEC#2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Monterey Location Date: 28 Jul 1997 12:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Hi; Just got the address of the neat Monterey EC on "up the hill form Fisherman's Warf". It's at the LeBlanc Gallery, 271 Alverado Mall Monterey, CA 93940 (408) 372-7756. Bob Hoff TEC #2033 P.S. I almost missed the EC machine in the basement of the Madonna Inn. It's near the "Mens' Waterfall" :-) They have at least two. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: (elongates) I didn't get my newsletter. Date: 28 Jul 1997 12:12:00 PDT If you are a fairly new member, Howard Sharkey will be sending out your newsletter instead of Corey. Hence, there is some delay. I haven't received mine from Sharkey either:( Any ideas why I didn't get my TEC newsletter? - Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) pennie prices Date: 28 Jul 1997 14:15:09 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-26 15:46:10 EDT, you write: << BTW, I collect coin show elongates and do not have this one. I would be more than happy to trade for it. If you do not have my trade list, let me know and I'll e-mail it to you. >> Email me your trade list and I will think about it depending on what you have...BTW this coin doesn't say RWD on it.... but there is a MH (?) on it. It is so tiney I can't quite make it out... Thanks for the info! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 28 Jul 1997 14:27:43 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-26 20:57:13 EDT, you write: << I've never seen the Popeye coin and only know about it because an employee told me they used to have one. >> Yup, that's the one....But it's a bad roll...part of the right end is missing... The word "boardwalk" is made to look like a roller coaster with little cars on top with popeye in a star along the botom. It's my very first elongated pennie...so I wouldn't want to trade..I'm sure there is another one out there that is a complete roll. Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan KITA Subject: Re: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out... Date: 28 Jul 1997 11:53:10 -0800 Regarding Las Vegas...I just thought of this, but it is not necessarily a "squished" coin or a "counter-stamped" coin, but Las Vegas has available thousands of different "stamped" coins roughly the size of the old dollar coins! And you just have to exchange one of your dollar bills for one of these coins. Alan p/s I think I have different designs of these coins in my desk drawers somewhere...these "coins" unfortunately are the only ones to have escaped with me on my trips BACK from Vegas. tink!!! wrote: > > i'm BACK!!!!! > > > 2) Las Vegas, NV. "Al Meranta" has machines in 10 locations -- 741 > > Autumn Moon Drlve, Las Vegas, NV 89123, Phone: 702.269.8131, > > TEC#2010. (WIsh we'd had this info before Nikki left for Lost > > Wages!) > > yeah! me, too;> > > so the good news is, i was able to check out barstow station again. > and, ya'll guessed it...the bad news is, the machine is gone...*sniff* > > i asked at all the big casinos i hit, and none of them knew of any such > machines. i thought that the kids areas would maybe have a couple, (i > seem to make my money last a LOT longer in the kids area;>) as little > souneirs for the cheap thrills, but no... oh, well. maybe i'll send > them all nasty mail telling them of my disappointment (yeah, like > that'll help)... > > pax!!! > nikki > -- > "There's still a part of me that's > 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards > http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ > dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM Date: 28 Jul 1997 14:49:36 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-28 03:08:36 EDT, you write: << Last night (Sunday), I had the dubious distinction of being the first to sign the guest book at the Squished Penny Museum (SPM) in Washington, D.C. It was all that I had anticipated, and more! In fact, my all to short visit lasted for four hours... they practically had to throw me out :) >> I feel a list trip coming on.....I go to college at Salisbury State College, which is near DC. If anyone would like to meet me at this museam sometime during the school year..let me know! I love museams.... Where exactly is it located, btw? Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM Date: 28 Jul 1997 12:39:08 -0700 Hi, I'm in! I hope to be in DC in Sept/Oct and would love to stop by and spend time with the SPM. Bert :) On 7/28/97 11:49 AM Liz Dale (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote >I feel a list trip coming on.....I go to college at Salisbury State College, >which is near DC. If anyone would like to meet me at this museam sometime >during the school year..let me know! I love museams.... Where exactly is it >located, btw? >Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: Re: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out... Date: 28 Jul 1997 12:52:02 -0700 > Regarding Las Vegas...I just thought of this, but it is not > necessarily a "squished" coin or a "counter-stamped" coin, but Las > Vegas has available thousands of different "stamped" coins roughly > the size of the old dollar coins! And you just have to exchange one > of your dollar bills for one of these coins. yeeeah!!! the dollar chips;> i brought one home with me. i threw down a coulpe at that wheel of fortune table at treasure island (where i stayed) and won 20 bucks;> i saved one of their dollar chips, how could i not, it's got a skull and crossbones logo on it!!! -nikki -- "There's still a part of me that's 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Morelewicz Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM Date: 28 Jul 1997 16:45:00 PDT Okay, here's the scoop. The SPM is located right in the heart of DC, about 1 1/2 miles due north of the White House. However, sometime in August we are moving. The new location will be about 1 1/2 miles northwest of the White House, right in the lung of DC. The move will afford us a bigger place to live and a bigger space for the museum to thrive. As your plans solidify, let me know a date and we'll do the First Annual EAST Coast List Meet and BBQ. And if anyone is planning on coming before that, just call: 202-986-5644 (we are retaining that number when we move). I will provide the pertinent address info to The List once we've completed the closing on the new digs. And thanks for the enthusiasm! Pete Hi, I'm in! I hope to be in DC in Sept/Oct and would love to stop by and spend time with the SPM. Bert >I feel a list trip coming on..... >Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan KITA Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 28 Jul 1997 14:13:27 -0800 Off the I-5 at the junction with Hwy 33 (I think) is Harris Ranch and Restaurant. They produce their own beef, which is quite good and you can buy it fresh....sorry to digress. Their machine is away from the reaturants near the restrooms. I'm not sure what was on it. Alan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: Re: (elongates) Big Al Date: 28 Jul 1997 17:16:42 -0400 James Henry wrote: > > Just got home from a long weekend painting. Saw the note about who > found Big Al. I asked someone weeks ago about getting a set from Disney > World and someone emailed me with his address as well as another. Can't > find out who emailed me though. Will look around for it. > > Janelle (Minnesota Flats) Hi Janelle... I think I sent Big Al's address and one other also: PinocProd@aol.com BTW I ordered a couple of Disney quarters from Big Al. The quarters are quite nice and arrived very quickly too. Ben mcsquare@erols.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 28 Jul 1997 18:41:07 -0400 (EDT) > Their machine is away from the reaturants near the restrooms. I'm not > sure what was on it. Mine says only Harris Ranch large type horizontal with "ranch" inset and in small letters "Inn & Resturant" below. It is circa Aug. 1995. May have changed since. Alan is right on...very good steaks and roast beef sandwiches..... great lunch stop! -Bob Hoff TEC# 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 28 Jul 1997 16:01:10 -0700 Hi, My coin is the same. Try the Harris Ranch breakfast of scrambled eggs and corned beef hash! It is excellent. OK, so the 3rd Mailing List trip will be to Harris Ranch, a true Oasis! Bert On 7/28/97 3:41 PM R0BERTH0FF@aol.com (R0BERTH0FF@aol.com ) wrote >Mine says only Harris Ranch large type horizontal with "ranch" inset and in >small letters "Inn & Resturant" below. It is circa Aug. 1995. May have >changed since. > >Alan is right on...very good steaks and roast beef sandwiches..... great >lunch stop! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ... <...> Subject: RE: (elongates) I didn't get my newsletter. :( Date: 28 Jul 1997 18:13:28 -0500 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC9B81.F3F90140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't get mine either! :( I'm in Dallas. 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They produce their own beef, which is quite good and you > can buy it fresh....sorry to digress. > > Their machine is away from the reaturants near the restrooms. I'm not > sure what was on it. > > Alan It is lettering only "Harris Ranch/Inn and Restaurant" Gina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: (elongates) cleaning Date: 28 Jul 1997 18:17:05 -0700 so i was just looking at my littel collection, and it struck me (OW!) that they all look a little grimey. how do you folx recommend cleaning your squished pennies. i have a dremmel tool with a wire brush attachment, and i have those green scrubbie pads, but i was wondering what others use. also, should i clean them before i squish them? does anyone do this and has noticed a difference? pax! nikki -- "There's still a part of me that's 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "zinful" Subject: (elongates) Lords Prayer Date: 28 Jul 1997 17:16:53 -0000 Hello All, Just a few things. Chris I know you are looking for the Lords Prayer. There is a catalog by Doug Fairbanks and it is huge. It lists over 8,000 coins and there are quite a few Lords Prayers with lots of variations. Some are on pennies, others on dimes, nickels, steel cents, tokens, etc. Other topics include coin shows, religious, space related, storecards/advertising, collectors/engravers, presidents, states, airplanes, organizations, oldies, foreign coins, worlds fairs, expos, Mardi Gras, comics, fantasy, etc. I could go on and on and on. Anyways - the catalog is $7.50 and he buys, sells and trades. Doug Fairbanks Sr. 5937 Beadle Drive Jamesville, NY 13078 315 469-4682 "Collector Extra-Ordinare" Gina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 28 Jul 1997 19:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Liz, I won't try to beg this one away from you (at the moment 8-), but do you have any way of scanning it? Or could you possibly send me a photocopy of it? BTW, you will find the current Boardwalk coin on my trade list. Peace, Aahz On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-26 20:57:13 EDT, you write: > > << > I've never seen the Popeye coin and only know about it because an > employee told me they used to have one. > >> > Yup, that's the one....But it's a bad roll...part of the right end is > missing... The word "boardwalk" is made to look like a roller coaster with > little cars on top with popeye in a star along the botom. It's my very first > elongated pennie...so I wouldn't want to trade..I'm sure there is another one > out there that is a complete roll. > Liz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Re: Online support in TEC News (fwd) Date: 28 Jul 1997 19:29:23 -0700 (PDT) As some of you may recall there were recently several messages here on the list about getting more 'net information into TEC News. I have been forwarding all of these comments to Corey Wylde - TEC News Editor. His response is below. Your comments are welcome. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Typical of today's cyberlings, Kathy is missing the true fabric of the TEC club. Many folks with a ton to contribute to the hobby have no access to computers. In today's "I won't wait for anything" culture Many things of true value are overlooked and passed by. I think it's a shame. While Tec will endeavor to meet the needs of all its constituents, all should be encouraged to paricipate in BOTH forms of communication. Also, the rich history of the hobby is embodied primarily in those who don't embrace computers. The best articles I receive are hand or type written. For those who can't wait, the future holds lessons which have already been learned by those who go before. I think we should learn from them, don't you? After rereading this note, its tone sounds confrontational. That is not my intent -- only to enlighten. Please let me know your thoughts. Obviously, I support the Net. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ... <...> Subject: RE: (elongates) cleaning Date: 28 Jul 1997 21:30:10 -0500 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC9B9D.6E41AD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a lot of different advice on my FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions): http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/faq.htm#How do I clean my copper pennies . . . ? My favorite method is: soak them in vinegar (or smother with ketchup) and polish them with salt or baking powder I've found that it's best to clean them up before pressing 'em. -... 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Again, comments are welcome. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Cc: Chris Aahz On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 WSons@aol.com wrote: > Typical of today's cyberlings, Kathy is missing the true fabric of the TEC > club. Apparently I am missing this as well then. Perhaps you could enlighten me. I thought TEC was about sharing information between collectors. As I recall Kathy's comments she mentioned that without the 'net she would not found TEC, that she thought TEC News should be published more often (which I agree with), and that she supported the idea of a regluar column on 'Net happenings in TEC News. I don't see what fails to capture the true fabric of TEC. The internet is a wonderful way to share information. It is not, by any means the only way. No one has called for abandoning TEC News. We just want to share information with people. The members that are on the 'net a recommunicating with each other. We would like a way to communicate with the other members as well. As far as I know the only way to do this is thru TEC News. We're talking about adding to it, not replacing it or any of its current contents. How is this a problem? > Many folks with a ton to contribute to the hobby have no access to > computers. In today's "I won't wait for anything" culture Many things of true > value are overlooked and passed by. I think it's a shame. While Tec will > endeavor to meet the needs of all its constituents, all should be encouraged > to paricipate in BOTH forms of communication. I agree with the majority of this statement. The call for the 'net column is about encouraging members to participate in BOTH forms of communication. There have been several calls for articles in TEC News. Those articels are now being rejected simply because some of the long time members are not able to use the information they provide. However, you seem to be overlooking the large number of users that CAN benefit from them. Those who are not interested in these articles can easily skip over them. Again, we are looking to make TEC News larger and more comprehensive. We are not trying to replace any current content. > Also, the rich history of the > hobby is embodied primarily in those who don't embrace computers. The best > articles I receive are hand or type written. For those who can't wait, the > future holds lessons which have already been learned by those who go before. > I think we should learn from them, don't you? ABSOLUTELY!!! My favorite regular column in TEC News is Martin's Mutterings. The more information these people are willing to share, the more I will listen (or read) what they have to say. I just don't see how excluding information about current happenings helps these people share their wealth of knowledge. I would love to hear your thoughts on this. > > After rereading this note, its tone sounds confrontational. That is not my > intent -- only to enlighten. > E-mail gets that way sometimes. I did not take your note as confrontational and I hope you do not take my reply that way. I have VERY strong feelings about this matter and that often comes out in my writing. I am very frustrated at the moment because I really don't understand where you are coming from n this. I WANT to understand, but I don't yet. > Please let me know your thoughts. Obviously, I support the Net. You may be sorry you asked for my thoughts after reading the above 8-) Personally, I don't find it obvious that you support the 'net. You use it, that is obvious, but I do not see you supporting its use in elongate collecting. You may well be doing so in forums that I am unaware of, but I have not seen any evidence of this other then that you correspond and accept submissions via e-mail. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM Date: 28 Jul 1997 22:51:02 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-28 18:56:17 EDT, you write: << As your plans solidify, let me know a date and we'll do the First Annual EAST Coast List Meet and BBQ. >> I have one problem...no car and no driver's licence...does anyone want to pick me up at SSU????? Please???? (It's a long story about the driver's licence....I didn't lose it, I just never got one....) I know this is a long shot!!! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) cleaning Date: 28 Jul 1997 20:04:32 -0700 Niki, Various things like katsup act as a mild acid. My recommendation for these kinds of cleaners is use them before squishing. Anytime you polish after squishing you begin to wear down the design. You can use a little Brasso to clean pennies that have been squished - it works more as an abrasive rather than an acid. Putting acidic chemicals on a squished penny will start to pit it. I'm not saying don't do, try it on something that is not your best penny. I have been experimenting with pennies that have a heavy brown patina on them. I smashed one at the San Diego aerospace museum (design of the Spirit of St. Louis). I then used an eraser to lightly go over the raised lines of the plane, and I got something I would call an "artsy" penny. I looks more like a bronze sculpture when some parts are polished where people touch them. I still like most of my coins polished, but it is fun to have some classic designs on patina pennies, and the more you touch them the more they age... Bert On 7/28/97 6:17 PM tink!!! (dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net ) wrote >so i was just looking at my littel collection, and it struck me (OW!) >that they all look a little grimey. how do you folx recommend cleaning >your squished pennies. i have a dremmel tool with a wire brush >attachment, and i have those green scrubbie pads, but i was wondering >what others use. also, should i clean them before i squish them? does >anyone do this and has noticed a difference? > >pax! >nikki ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: (elongates) Photographing Pennies Date: 28 Jul 1997 23:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Hey...it seams like everyone wants photoes of my collection....Does anyone have any advice/experience with photographing elongates??? I am a real amature with photography...but my parents have a good camera. Can anyone help? Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Lords Prayer Date: 28 Jul 1997 20:05:01 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, zinful wrote: > Hello All, > Just a few things. Chris I know you are looking for the Lords Prayer. > There is a catalog by Doug Fairbanks and it is huge. It lists over 8,000 > coins and there are quite a few Lords Prayers with lots of variations. > Some are on pennies, others on dimes, nickels, steel cents, tokens, etc. Thanx for the info. I have not seen Doug's catalog, but he and I are working on a deal for the LP issues he has. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies Date: 28 Jul 1997 20:14:08 -0700 Liz, Do you have access to a scanner at school. That's one way to do it and not have the cost os photography. How many are we talking about? Maybe someone on the list could help you out. Bert On 7/28/97 8:01 PM Liz Dale (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote >Hey...it seams like everyone wants photoes of my collection....Does anyone >have any advice/experience with photographing elongates??? I am a real >amature with photography...but my parents have a good camera. Can anyone >help? >Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) newsletter Date: 28 Jul 1997 22:15:47 -0500 My daughter hasn't got her newsletter either. Janelle (Minnesota Flats) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) newsletter Date: 28 Jul 1997 20:26:31 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, James Henry wrote: > My daughter hasn't got her newsletter either. > > Janelle (Minnesota Flats) > > Would that be 'Baby Flats' or 'Little Flats'? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: Re: (elongates) cleaning Date: 28 Jul 1997 21:06:09 -0700 thanx kathy and bert for the advice on cleaning!!! and kathy, thanx for putting your page addy up, somehow, i seem to have missed it up until now;> pax!!! nikki -- "There's still a part of me that's 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) newsletter Date: 28 Jul 1997 21:24:08 -0700 Aahz, Careful my friend! You could start a Flats Domino reaction here! bc On 7/28/97 8:26 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > >On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, James Henry wrote: > >> My daughter hasn't got her newsletter either. >> >> Janelle (Minnesota Flats) >> >> > Would that be 'Baby Flats' or 'Little Flats'? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: Re: (elongates) newsletter Date: 29 Jul 1997 00:44:52 -0700 James Henry wrote: > > My daughter hasn't got her newsletter either. > > Janelle (Minnesota Flats) I emailed Corey about a friend of mine who didn't get his son's either. Here is the significant portion of his reply: > As a result your friend's son will be rightfully > added. Please direct any other inquiries you may receive directly to Howard > as he has the database. I think he does a superb job. This is just a way to > help him clean up his records since his computer crash this Spring. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: (elongates) E ya Later :) Date: 29 Jul 1997 00:55:39 -0700 Hi Gang! It pains me to inform you all that I will have to be signing off of this wonderful email list for a couple of days :( Please feel free to email me directly if you have ANY pressing concerns... Although don't expect to get a speedy reply. --Willy -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ******************************************** P.S. Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Rosato's wanted ad: Date: 29 Jul 1997 00:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Greetings and Salutations! In the current issue of TEC News, Angelo Rosato is advertising a number of coins he is looking to purchase. Of course, he only lists them by the code numbers from his book (which I still can't afford). Could anybody who has Rosato's book send me a brief description of each of the coins in his ad? I know there's a lot, but I just need enough to know if I'm somewhat close. I have coins rolled by most of these people, I just don't know what designs he wants. I would be happy to offer goodies in return (or a finders fee if a make a sale) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Birchard Subject: Re: (elongates) Rosato's wanted ad: Date: 29 Jul 1997 00:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Chris, Here they are. I actually have 2 copies of his encyclopedia, one never openned, still in shrinkwrap. I plan to sit on it for a number of years until he sells out and the value of mine will increase. Anyway, the code numbers and their descriptions: DOW-79: Same as DOW-2, except die re-engraved with larger type: 2ND ANNUAL/CONVENTION/PHOENIX/1966. Initials DD, right of date. -2nd progressive single die variety. (see DOW-80, 120). Dotted border. Listed mintage: 10 cents. BRO-3: Maple leaf made up of 11 small triangles. -Above; EXPO 67, Below stem; 1867/ CENT. OF CAN. CONFED. First of a progressive single die variety. See BRO-4. Listed mintage: 6 cents. COO-1: Ornate scroll lines throughout legend. -A Christmas card elongated card: FIRST/ROLLED/ELONGATED/BY/ADAM J. COOL/MERRY/CHRISTMAS/12-10-74. (see ROS-352). Listed mintage: 15 cents. HOE-5: Same die as HOE-4, except die is re-engraved. It says "Watergate UGH!" with large initials, L.M. Listed mintage: 3 cents. Anyway, my legs are going numb from having about ten pounds of book sitting on them. As you can tell, all of the coins he wants have VERY low mintages. Most being progressive single die varieties. It surprises me a bit that he is offering to buy some of his own issues. Matt Birchard TEC #1848 Portland, Oregon USA e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) cleaning Date: 29 Jul 1997 12:57:32 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-29 00:08:25 EDT, you write: << so i was just looking at my littel collection, and it struck me (OW!) that they all look a little grimey. how do you folx recommend cleaning your squished pennies. i have a dremmel tool with a wire brush attachment, and i have those green scrubbie pads, but i was wondering what others use. also, should i clean them before i squish them? does anyone do this and has noticed a difference? >> I have a great answer to this one..... pennies can be cleaned using a mixture of lemon juice and salt...say about 1/4 cup of lemon juice and a teaspoon of salt. Soak the pennie for a minute and rince with water. I have never tried it on an elongated pennie...so I would suggest cleaning the pennie before it is squashed. Also...I would wash one pennie at a time... the lemon/salt mixture will get dirty. When it does make some more. The dirty lemon/salt will just make the pennie more dirty. It works like magick! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Online support in TEC News (fwd) Date: 29 Jul 1997 13:02:57 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-29 01:47:05 EDT, you write: << After rereading this note, its tone sounds confrontational. That is not my intent -- only to enlighten. Please let me know your thoughts. Obviously, I support the Net. >> I support the net too. If TEC doesn't get at least a web page they will go the way of the dodo! Besides, newsleters waist trees... the web/internet is more environmentaly friendly! Just my 2 cents... Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies Date: 29 Jul 1997 13:13:37 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-29 05:49:41 EDT, you write: << Liz, Do you have access to a scanner at school. That's one way to do it and not have the cost os photography. How many are we talking about? Maybe someone on the list could help you out. >> I don't think there is a scaner at school, but I do have "connections" with the computer department.....I could ask around. Would I just stick the pennie on the scaner and shut the lid?? Most of my pennies are a little curved. I don't think that would turn out good. I have about 40 pennies. Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies Date: 29 Jul 1997 11:06:31 -0700 Hi, Yes, just put them on the scanner, close the lid and you are off and running. Some of my coins are curved and I have never had a problem with this. Actually, the curve allows a 'highlight' to show up in the image, so you can see the shape as well as the detail. I use an Apple OneScanner and it has some simple software with it. I push one button and the whole thing is done for me. Sometimes I go in with a paint program (Photoshop...) and remove some of the shadow caused by the curved coins... Talk to your computer science friends. Once they set you up, you could run all your coins through at once. If you need any HTML help, just ask the list, several of us can assist there as well. Good luck with the scanning, let us know how it goes... (Oh, I think some Kinko's stores around the country have scanners hooked up to their computers. Not sure about the costs, but wanted to pass that info along...) Finally, to keep this all above board, I do work for Apple and do love their products. Just so you all know where I am coming from when I mention things. Computers are just tools! Nothin' more. My views do not reflect my employer, they are solely my personal comments. Happy Scanning! Bert On 7/29/97 10:13 AM Liz Dale (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote >In a message dated 97-07-29 05:49:41 EDT, you write: > ><< > Liz, > > Do you have access to a scanner at school. That's one way to do it and > not have the cost os photography. How many are we talking about? Maybe > someone on the list could help you out. > >> >I don't think there is a scaner at school, but I do have "connections" with >the computer department.....I could ask around. Would I just stick the >pennie on the scaner and shut the lid?? Most of my pennies are a little >curved. I don't think that would turn out good. I have about 40 pennies. >Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) cleaning Date: 29 Jul 1997 14:04:53 -0400 I still find good ol' brass polish to work the best. All the mystic voodoo of lemon and ketchup stuff gets my hands all gunky. :) - Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies Date: 29 Jul 1997 14:10:37 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-29 14:05:34 EDT, you write: << Talk to your computer science friends. Once they set you up, you could run all your coins through at once. If you need any HTML help, just ask the list, several of us can assist there as well. >> Thanks for the info...I will check into the scaner when I get to school...in Sept...so don't hold your breth... Thanks again.. Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) cleaning Date: 29 Jul 1997 14:12:26 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-29 14:08:24 EDT, you write: << I still find good ol' brass polish to work the best. All the mystic voodoo of lemon and ketchup stuff gets my hands all gunky. :) >> I'm into mystic and voodoo....and on that note...are there any pagan relgious elongated coins?? Pentacles and the such...???? I'd love to get one, if there are any? Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Birchard Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Online support in TEC News (fwd) Date: 29 Jul 1997 11:17:12 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 29 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > I support the net too. If TEC doesn't get at least a web page they will go > the way of the dodo! Besides, newsleters waist trees... the web/internet is > more environmentaly friendly! Just my 2 cents... > Liz > Not to burst your bubble or anything, but perhaps had you thought about the amount of electrical power needed to support the massive infrastructure of the 'net? And then that begs the question, how is that power generated? Sometimes through some not so environmentally friendly means. Solamente mi dos centavos... Matt Birchard TEC #1848 Portland, Oregon USA e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) TEC Thoughts (Thanks Liz) Date: 29 Jul 1997 11:40:55 -0700 Liz, Thanks for your comments. I completely agree with you. This is not an "us" against "them" discussion, as Corey's email describes it. I don't know how we got off on that track, but I hope we all can get back to a centerline, sharing info about our hobby and getting together (Disneyland, Squished Penny Museum, Harris Ranch, ANA meets, etc.) to meet each other. My wife's great grandmother is in her 80's and she keeps in touch each week via email. Writing 20 letters with the same information would be hard for her. She uses the phone and email to keep in touch with family across the US. Does that make her a 'cyberling?' (Hope we can end the name calling real soon now!) As I said in an earlier email, computers are a communications tool. To attack a tool that helps us share our common interests is wrong. No one on this list (as far as I can research) ever said anything against US Postal mail, TEC Newsletter or our TEC members that have a wealth of experience. The opposite is true! We have been asking to include more info in the TEC Newsletter as a way of tieing together our various forms of communication. I have learned so much from Willy (hope he's feeling' better soon!), Chris Aahz, ... and many others - all via the net. I have also learned a great deal from Willy, Jack Wilcox, Allen Curtis, Ray Dillard (I could go on and on) all from back issues of TEC Newsletter that Howard Sharkey was kind enough to send me (THANKS Howard!). For the non-TEC members of this email list, sorry if this is off the topic of what you signed up to read -- I do hope you will join us TEC members soon. For the TEC members, I hope you all will join Liz and send in your comments. My personal opinion: I hope we can get past the name calling and find some ways to join together around our hobby (passion). So, how can we do that? First, TEC needs to publish a membership roster so we all know who we are. I have no idea if there's anybody else in San Diego that I can meet in person. I have no idea how to write to TEC members that know a whole lot more about things than I do. I have no idea how to ask for help (of TEC members) in certain areas of the country where I am trying to get Elongated machine locations. A roster is a vital part of our organization. A roster could include info the members are willing to share such as being a roller, a dealer, an engraver and/or designer, or willing to give advice/experience in certain areas. Second, we need an additional (new) section in TEC Newsletter that explains what is available to all members via email, web sites, etc. A primer on how to get started could be included in the TEC Newsletter. I am willing to bet there are a few of us on this list that would be willing to advise members how to get started if they wanted to try this out (I will be the first to offer help). Once and for all, let's all agree age is NOT related to using email or the worldwide web. Third, and related to the last suggestion, let's bring the important information from the online community to those without access. If TEC members without web access knew I had a Smashed Coin Locator, they could send me a SASE and I would be more than happy to print any pages and send them out. So someone with no web access could say 'Bert, I'd like to get your San Diego elonagted machine locations' and I could send them a printed copy (which is what I take to Disneyland to update my locations). Again, we need a published roster where I can offer this to the membership. Fourth, we need to harness the worldwide nature of the net to bring new members into TEC. Willy Massey has done a great job of describing TEC on his web pages and even put up a sign-up form (which I used to become a member). Again, this is synergy, not confrontation. With new members, we'll get new articles written, new locations, new coin issues. I have mentioned (I believe) that recently a famous artist was looking at my web pages and found a roller's web site. This lead to the artist commissioning 2 new dies, which we all will soon get to see (and collect pennies from!). Hey, that sounds like a great short story for the TEC Newsletter. Finally, let's get off the computer vs US Post Office Mail discussion. Dead end. Division causing discussion, nuff said! If we had a roster, with phone numbers, Fax numbers, email addresses, web page URL's and street addresses (what ever members are interested in publishing) we could ALL stay in touch better. I would love to know some of the TEC members with years of experience would be willing to take a 20 minute call and talk to me about a certain topic (I'd pay for the call). It would be wonderful if I could fax some info to a TEC member that might need it just before leaving on a collecting trip. I was lucky enough to go to Hawaii recently on business. After returning, I was sent some penny locations I did not know about. Wish I had them before I left! A roster would have helped me in my collecting! To summarize, we need to work towards a common purpose of enjoying elongated coins. Bringing the best of tools together to get information out to everyone is the goal. I hope we can start at once on a roster of members, how they like to be contacted, and what they would like to offer other TEC members (lists of machines locations, etc). I hope we can get TEC to work on a Elongated Coin Locator service, which could be available on the web, sent via SASE request to Howard or the Locator Keeper, etc. The TEC Newsletter has been a wonderful way to learn about so many aspects of elongated coins and collectors. Let's add a new section that explains additional ways to stay in touch, AND brings new elongated articles to all TEC readers. Let's hear what you all think... Bert Creighton TEC #2095 Join TEC! On 7/29/97 10:02 AM Liz Dale (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote >In a message dated 97-07-29 01:47:05 EDT, you write: > ><< > After rereading this note, its tone sounds confrontational. That is not my > intent -- only to enlighten. > > Please let me know your thoughts. Obviously, I support the Net. > >> >I support the net too. If TEC doesn't get at least a web page they will go >the way of the dodo! Besides, newsleters waist trees... the web/internet is >more environmentaly friendly! Just my 2 cents... >Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies Date: 29 Jul 1997 20:36:56 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > Good luck with the scanning, let us know how it goes... (Oh, I think some > Kinko's stores around the country have scanners hooked up to their > computers. Not sure about the costs, but wanted to pass that info > along...) My local Kinko's management freaked HARD when they heard I was gonna place coins on their scanner. They were utterly convinved that there was no way to do this without scratching the glass. Just thought I'd forewarn y'all. Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: (elongates) New pennies at MN Zoo Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:43:43 -0500 Just got back from the Minnesota Zoo. Those guys added a new machine this last month with 3 new pennies for a total of 18 out there. The new ones are 1)Starfish 2) Arthur Octopus 3) Sophie Shrimp. If you want the new ones to add to the others you have, let me know as I will be making a trip again in a week or two. Bert, Jeff, and David McD. will have all 18 in your packages so you don't need to let me know. Zinful, you will get all 18 in your package as well. Believe it or not, I ran out of pre 82 pennies today. Had enough to make 3 full sets and 3 extra new ones for "Little Flats" my daughter and that was it!! Minnesota Flats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) New pennies at MN Zoo Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:14:57 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, James Henry wrote: > Just got back from the Minnesota Zoo. Those guys added a new machine > this last month with 3 new pennies for a total of 18 out there. The new > ones are 1)Starfish 2) Arthur Octopus 3) Sophie Shrimp. If you want > the new ones to add to the others you have, let me know as I will be Guess Corey's right, patience IS a virtue. I acted fast and missed out on the three new coins. Anywayz, you know I want these! Oddly enough, I haven't been anywhere NEAR Minnesota since starting to collect and the Minnesota section of my binders has more coins then any state but California!! Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC Thoughts (Thanks Liz) Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Bert, As always you get a good message across very well. Personally, I do not think Corey meant to be insulting. I did find the message rather demeaning, but I do not think it was intentional. I do think it shows that he thinks of those on the 'net as children. You several times mentioned the need for a roster. We've both kind of stepped in it here. Corey's column (Stretched Sense) in the last TEC News mentions that a list of names and addresses is available for $3. I will be sending off a check this evening and will provide anyone who wants a copy free of charge (most likely via FAX or snail mail as I expect it to be pretty long to type in immediately). Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC Thoughts (Thanks Liz) Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:40:35 -0700 Hi, Steppin' in it is my life! You too will be steppin' in it when you get to Harris Ranch. There's a cow lot near there that will fill your car with a certain natural purfume that will last for days! Can you tell me what date is on the last TEC Newsletter. I am starting to think I missed the last one. Can't remember when the first one showed up... I also thought they's put my TEC # somewhere in the ascii, and I'd find it any report it to Howard and I'd get a reward in the mail. Never saw my number? Thanks for the date on the last issue... bc On 7/29/97 9:23 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote > You several times mentioned the need for a roster. We've both >kind of stepped in it here. Corey's column (Stretched Sense) in the last >TEC News mentions that a list of names and addresses is available for >$3. I will be sending off a check this evening and will provide anyone >who wants a copy free of charge (most likely via FAX or snail mail as I >expect it to be pretty long to type in immediately). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) Re: Online support in TEC News (fwd) Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:32:58 -0700 (PDT) The final segment in the soap opera I have made you all sit through between me and Corey. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- In a message dated 97-07-29 00:55:20 EDT, you write: << You may well be doing so in forums that I am unaware of, but I have not seen any evidence of this other then that you correspond and accept submissions via e-mail. >> Reread this months "Stretched Sense" column. I cannot reiterate LOUDLY enough, the greatest challenge which faces clubs like ours is uniting the older with the younger. Patience IS a virtue. THink of what your article in September will encompass compared to your mid-June submission. I suggested to Bert to write a primer column for the unsophisticated. I expect he will. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC Thoughts (Thanks Liz) Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:51:17 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote: > Can you tell me what date is on the last TEC Newsletter. I am starting to > think I missed the last one. Can't remember when the first one showed > up... The current ish is vol. 32, No. 3 Summer 1997 (Jul-Sep). The last ish was Spring 1997 (Apr-Jun). It comes out quarterly, with Winter starting off the year in January. > > I also thought they's put my TEC # somewhere in the ascii, and I'd find > it any report it to Howard and I'd get a reward in the mail. Never saw my > number? Wll, they skipped right by me, too! But odds are lucky number 2107 is out on the 'net somewhere. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) List digesting SOON! Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Okay, as proof that I'm doing what I can to get the digest running I'm forwarding the message I received from my netrep this morning. He didn't do it today (as far as I know), so hopefully tomorrow. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- On Tue, Jul 29, 1997 at 09:32:38AM -0600, Chris Aahz wrote: > Bill, > > You helped me set up my mailing list (elongates) because my > browser couldn't use the web forms properly. I need help again. Traffic > has increased dramatically on the list and I NEED to add a digest version > of the list. I sent you a message last thursday, but have not heard from > you and things are getting pretty desperate. > > How do I set up the digest version of my list? I'd like to call > it elongates-digest. > > Your help is greatly appreciated. > > Peace, > > Aahz Sorry about the delay, I've been buried. I'll get the digest set up today and drop you a note when it's ready. Bill -- bill@xmission.com http://www.xmission.com/~bill/ Spam me and get *free* X11 source code by email! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies Date: 30 Jul 1997 01:02:19 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-30 00:57:27 EDT, you write: << My local Kinko's management freaked HARD when they heard I was gonna place coins on their scanner. They were utterly convinved that there was no way to do this without scratching the glass. >> So did they let you do it?? Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies Date: 29 Jul 1997 22:17:29 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-30 00:57:27 EDT, you write: > > << > My local Kinko's management freaked HARD when they heard I was > gonna place coins on their scanner. They were utterly convinved that > there was no way to do this without scratching the glass. > >> > So did they let you do it?? > Liz > > Oops! I guess I should limit myself to doing only three or four things at once. No, they wouldn't let me. I even invoked the name of the former manager (I used to work at Kinko's) but this still did no good. It was little ol' me versus the four person graveyard staff. I lost 8-( Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Birchard Subject: (elongates) TEC roster Date: 30 Jul 1997 01:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Hey folks! The membership roster idea I gave a lot of thought. If you take a look at the previous issue of TEC News (Spring 1997), you can read the article I authored on the subject. I did my homework on this, quoted a bunch from the TEC By-Laws, and everything. Corey published my page and a half article, but that was about all. The only response I really got was this short paragraph that sort of addressed the issue, but it was not directed at me, instead it was a general statement from Gus in the "...From the President's Desk" column. "Membership rosters are available. Send $3.00 to Howard Sharkey to cover copying and mailing costs and he will send you one. Please use the list for correspondence and not soliciting. We always need new members. Sign up somebody soon." Personally I didn't like the tone of that paragraph. If you'd have read my article you'd find that I clearly think the roster should be free to all members, and that I address the constant "hounding" from the TEC leadership about needing new members without any reporting of our current ranks. But there it is in the same breath. The roster is not free and MORE MEMBERS! Now go get'em! Perhaps we (as a club) could gain more members if we were online. I just seem to be butting heads with the TEC leadership. But whatcha gonna do? Perhaps I'll run for office, maybe for a board of directors position so that some fresh ideas could be interjected into the leadership of the organization. Hope I don't piss anyone off with my thoughts and comments, but I don't really care one way or the other. BTW, the term "cyberling" would probably fit me quite well. I'm 20 years of age, but I've been a TEC member for going on 5 years now and I've been collecting since '82. A club is for it's members. It seems that the vocal minority (I guess those of us that are technically proficient are the minority, I keep getting told so) is pushing for a more forward thinking TEC. If members of TEC don't want to change, well they should speak up. The last few issues of TEC News have contained a lot of info on moving the club forward, both with the 'net and other ways such as the membership roster. Any member can write an article. The general membership should be discussing these ideas. Apathy is close to premission. At the end of my article I invited any member to comment and let the members of TEC know what they thought. Nothing was published and I only received one letter from someone that I had previously bought something from, so they had my address. Matt Birchard TEC #1848 Portland, Oregon USA e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu snail mail: Matt Birchard 4435 NE 73RD AVE PORTLAND, OR 97218-3630 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC roster Date: 30 Jul 1997 01:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Matt, I didn't connect the name, but I thoroughly enjoyed your article in TECN! I'm not sure exactly how long you've been on the mailing list, but there has been a fair amount of discussion of TEC's current failings. This list is an open forum! I encourage messages from the heart such as your most recent post. You may get attacked by subscribers for your views (although I think most subscribers who care agree with them), but you certainly won't be told by any 'list offical' (all of whom are me ;) that you shouldn't post your thoughts! On to the issues you raised: > I did my homework on this, quoted a > bunch from the TEC By-Laws, and everything. Corey published my page and > a half article, but that was about all. The official response to this would be space constraints, I am sure. And this is often a legitimate concern when putting out a publication. I, for one, would like to see TECN both larger and more frequent. We've certainly got the money in the treasury for it. This is number two on my agenda for the new Board (There's no point on bringing anything up before the election unless you'll be at the meeting). Number one is this years election snafu. > The only response I really got > was this short paragraph that sort of addressed the issue, but it was not > directed at me, instead it was a general statement from Gus in the > "...From the President's Desk" column. > "Membership rosters are available. Send $3.00 to Howard Sharkey > to cover copying and mailing costs and he will send you one. Please use > the list for correspondence and not soliciting. We always need new > members. Sign up somebody soon." > Personally I didn't like the tone of that paragraph. If you'd The greatest threat I see facing TEC at this time is lack of feedback to the membership. Again, since so many of the officers are not online I feel a larger and more frequent TECN will solve help solve this problem. I, for one, cannot afford to make long distance calls to get information about the club. Even postage gets expensive. I just sent a letter to each of the TEC Officers regarding the election. This one letter cost me more then five bucks to send off. This could easily add up VERY quickly. A club newsletter is supposed to disseminate information about the club. Each individual member should not have to write a letter to each of the officers. Besides, can you imagine how swamped the officers would be if they each had to respond to dozens of letters from each member? By creating a 'dialogue; in the TEC News all would feel more included. > have read my article you'd find that I clearly think the roster should be > free to all members, and that I address the constant "hounding" from the I agree, yet again. That's why I have promised to share my copy of the membership with anyone who asks free of charge or at cost if any. My request for said roster will be going out in tomorrow's mail. > Perhaps we (as a club) could gain more members if we were online. My thoughts on this have been made pretty clear. Willy reports that nearly fifty people have joined based on his web-site alone (I could be wrong on this number and Willy's gone for a few days, but needless to say TEC has had a HUGE leap in membership this year and it owes a lot of that to the 'net. I have forwarded this message to both Corey and Rocky as I think they need to see what people think. I encourage you to forward your message to them both as well, Matt. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC roster Date: 30 Jul 1997 10:31:00 -0400 Matt and the rest of the elongates newsgroup, I consider myself a "cyberling" as well. At 22 years of age and working as a professional in the computer industry, I embrace adding more technology to TEC. It is true that not all of the members use computers on a daily basis. However, that shouldn't stunt the growth of TEC. I wouldn't have become a member if hadn't been for Willy - along with several other people online. If TEC isn't willing to publish the information on members, then it doesn't seem appropriate for us to help promote members. What would be my line? "You should join TEC, give them money, and hope that they return the favor with information on expanding your collection." I enjoy reading the TEC newsletter - however I've gained far more information from this mailing list. I envision an online elongated penny museum where people can display their collections for the rest of the public to see. I believe this vision should be supported by TEC - since this helps others get acquainted with the hobby. However, from the email I have seen of the current TEC leaders, I'm not convinced the focus is on the members of TEC. As much as I like to be a part of TEC, I am debating on letting my membership expire. I'm not asking all members of TEC to become 100% dedicated to net traffic. I agree some of the best ideas and feelings come from good ol' pencil and paper. However, TEC seems to be going out of its way to NOT promote the net and its avenues available to TEC members. In closing, I feel TEC should release the addresses of the members who wish to be published for free. I joined TEC to understand and learn about the people around me which collect elongated coins. Incouraging cooperation and conversations between members should be the primary focus of TEC in order to keep members in the future - cyberlings or not. Sincerely, Jeff Dixon TEC member 422 Mystic Ave #404 Somerville, MA 02145 USA ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC roster Date: 30 Jul 1997 09:34:17 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote: > If TEC isn't willing to publish the information on members, then it doesn't > seem > appropriate for us to help promote members. What would be my line? "You > should join TEC, > give them money, and hope that they return the favor with information on > expanding your > collection." I don't really think this is fair. I first contacted Howard about TEC Membership in the early summer of 1995. He sent a sample issue of TEC News and several free coins along with the membership information. I continued a brief correspondence with him as well as with Anita Zell and a few other TEC members whose addresses I got from that sample newsletter. This correspondence ended because *I* got distracted by other things and let them falter. When I joined TEC this last November I again received numerous coins and have begun coresponding with several of the existing members. I love the net, and all that is available here regarding ECs, but without TEC much of it would not exist. It is a prime motivating factor for elongated collecting. I doubt there is a single private roller that is not a TEC Member. TEC has a lot to offer, its just going through growing pains at the moment. > I enjoy reading the TEC newsletter - however I've gained far > more information from this mailing list. Obviously I'm glad to hear the list has been so useful to you. It's my baby and my pride and joy. But is was never intended to replace TECN and I sure hope it never does. We need MORE outlets of information, not less. > I envision an online elongated penny museum where people can display their > collections > for the rest of the public to see. And this vision WILL become a reality. Many people are working on the foundations for just such a museum. > I believe this vision should be > supported by TEC - > since this helps others get acquainted with the hobby. However, from the > email I have seen > of the current TEC leaders, I'm not convinced the focus is on the members > of TEC. Have you mentioned this to any of the TEC officers, Jeff? I think it's a great idea and would fit well on the TEC website. Friday evening we should know when/if that is going to happen in th near future. Once we've got the go ahead to start the site we'll need to discuss what to put there. The Dixon Virtual Elongate Museum is high on my list. > > As much as I like to be a part of TEC, I am debating on letting my > membership expire. > I'm not asking all members of TEC to become 100% dedicated to net traffic. > I agree some > of the best ideas and feelings come from good ol' pencil and paper. > However, TEC seems to be > going out of its way to NOT promote the net and its avenues available to > TEC members. Please don't do this Jeff. I don't know how long you've been a member of TEC, but it IS changing. Slowly,for sure, but surely. We need to work withing TEC to improve it, not abandon it when it needs us most. The key is to let our feelings be known. I encourage you to forward your thoughts to both Corey and Rocky. I am also planning on mailing a large number of the recent messages regarding TEC to members of the 'new' board after the elction. They can't do what we want until they know what we want. And if they don't do it when we ask, we ask again. If they still don't do it, we demand it. > > In closing, I feel TEC should release the addresses of the members who wish > to be published for free. > I joined TEC to understand and learn about the people around me which > collect elongated coins. > Incouraging cooperation and conversations between members should be the > primary focus of TEC > in order to keep members in the future - cyberlings or not. > I couldn't agree more. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ... <...> Subject: RE: (elongates) cleaning Date: 30 Jul 1997 11:51:33 -0500 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC9CDE.EE5127A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I still find good ol' brass polish to work the best. 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They were utterly convinved that > there was no way to do this without scratching the glass. > > Just thought I'd forewarn y'all. > > Aahz > Who cares about the glass??? Don't scratch the coins! :-) -Bob Hoff TEC#2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: (elongates) IMHO Date: 30 Jul 1997 13:25:26 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-30 08:02:22 EDT, you write: > My thoughts on this have been made pretty clear. Willy reports > that nearly fifty people have joined based on his web-site alone (I could > be wrong on this number and Willy's gone for a few days, but needless to > say TEC has had a HUGE leap in membership this year and it owes a lot of > that to the 'net. > Some years back I too found out about them indirectly from cyberspace. The future of collecting is dependent on introducing the hobby to new members. Many new members can be found on the web. We owe it to the hobby to cover all available meda. (They will still have to subscribe to the TEC Newsletter to get the free EC anyway. :-) -Bob Hoff TEC#2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: (elongates) More notes on TEC and cyberspace Date: 30 Jul 1997 13:54:06 -0400 Hi everybody, After looking at my letter again - it seemed a little harsh. My intention isn't to leave TEC until I'm convinced it's a loss cause. I believe there are lots of great people in TEC - and I'm a bit frustrated with the bad vibes I get from TEC leadership. - Jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ENTROPYM@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL Date: 30 Jul 1997 14:58:38 -0400 (EDT) If you are on Highway 17, the Roaring Camp and Big Trees Narrow Gauge Railroad in Felton has a coin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) More notes on TEC and cyberspace Date: 30 Jul 1997 12:15:30 -0700 Jeff, A lot of us seem to feel the same. We want to move TEC AND our hobby forward. Some good things may be happening... Willy is the President nominee. He's savvy about email, web pages etc. Let's see if he gets elected and then assist him in moving into new areas. I have made my views known to the list and I appreciate you all letting me share my thoughts. I think we have a very good chance to effect some change. Hey, if we can bring in lots of net savvy new collectors (we just got another one last night!) we become a bigger voice in TEC and can move things in a way that benefits all members. Hang in there, keep smashin', and keep letting us know your thoughts. Change doesn't happen easily, but it can start with "a bit" of frustration and lead to some new growth. bc On 7/30/97 10:54 AM Jeff Dixon (jeffd@kurzweil.com ) wrote >Hi everybody, > >After looking at my letter again - it seemed a little harsh. My intention >isn't to leave TEC until I'm convinced it's a loss cause. >I believe there are lots of great people in TEC - and I'm a bit frustrated >with the bad vibes I get from TEC leadership. > >- Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tony dinto Subject: (elongates) Star trek Date: 30 Jul 1997 15:39:30 +0000 Hi, This is my first email to all so please excuse the flubs. Someone, wrote that they were looking for a Star Trek coin. I am pretty sure i have one on a rolled nickel. There isn't any script on it, but it looks like Mcoy, Spock, and Scotty standing in a control room of some sort. Contact me if this is any intrest to you. Tony Dinto stanton@eci.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC's future Date: 30 Jul 1997 16:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Collecting elongated pennies is a growing hobbie that not many people know about. The collectable/comic book store I go to couldn't believe that elongates had web pages dedicated to them, they had very little literature about them didn't have any pennies in their vast coin/money department. Does TEC sell to stores to sell on the shelf??? If TEC was at least bi-monthy more would buy it! Bi-monthy would only be 2 more issues a year! That doesn't seem so hard to acomplish! A TEC web page is a must! More young people would get into it if they could just discover it on the web! An internet/web baised colum in TEC would introduce the web to the internet-illeterate. In searching for info about elongated pennies...the web and this list are only info I have! (I did find that encylopeida but is was $130, way to expensive!) I would love to get TEC, but I want to see a copy first..... and I would like it to be bi-monthly! My $0.02! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William C. Massey" Subject: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS Date: 30 Jul 1997 20:36:37 -0700 ATTENTION TO ALL TEC MEMBERS: If you did not recieve the latest issue of the TEC NEWS, Please let ME know (massey@clark.net). I will be picking up extras at the ANA this Friday, and will gladly send you one. It pains me greatly to announce that TEC Secretary, Howard Sharkey, will no longer be able to hold his office, as he is quite ill. Although, he is not so bad off as to not be able to enjoy a kind word from any of you who care to send him one. -- Elongatedly Yours, William C. Massey TEC #1857 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Star trek Date: 30 Jul 1997 20:15:15 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, tony dinto wrote: > Hi, > This is my first email to all so please excuse the flubs. No flubs, Tony. You did just fine 8-) Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC's future Date: 30 Jul 1997 20:26:03 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote: > > Collecting elongated pennies is a growing hobbie that not many people know > about. The collectable/comic book store I go to couldn't believe that > elongates had web pages dedicated to them, they had very little literature > about them didn't have any pennies in their vast coin/money department. Does I'm amazed they had any literature about them! I've never seen any elongate literature in a coin shop. What do they have? > TEC sell to stores to sell on the shelf??? No, TEC News is not designed for public distribution. It's a club newsletter designed for club members, not the general public. > expensive!) I would love to get TEC, but I want to see a copy first..... and > I would like it to be bi-monthly! My $0.02! As of Friday morning we apparently will have a new TEC Secretary. As soon as this person is announced, I'll post their address and you can write and request a sample copy. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tclh@hilconet.com Subject: (elongates) Greetings from Texas Date: 30 Jul 1997 22:38:45 -0500 Hello all, My name is Trey and I live just west of San Antonio. Aahz invited me to suscribe about 3 weeks ago, and I have been lurking since that time. I became interested in elongates thru my children. The coins were inexpensive gifts brought home from my travels. However, I really got hooked in early June while at Disney World. The 25th anniversary quarter elongates were just the ticket. I wish I had planned ahead and packed a roll of silver quarters. My oldest daughter decided to assemble her set a little late in our trip. She has multiples of at least 8 of the coins, but is missing 4-5 coins needed to complete a set. If anyone is interested in trading to complete sets, I will post a trade list. Also, I may be able to help with machine locations for those going to D.W. in September. Some are a little difficult to find. Many thanks for the invitation to suscribe to the list, Aahz. Trey PS I am a newbie. What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-? Thanks, TH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS Date: 30 Jul 1997 20:56:37 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote: > It pains me greatly to announce that TEC Secretary, Howard Sharkey, will > no longer be able to hold his office, as he is quite ill. Although, he > is not so bad off as to not be able to enjoy a kind word from any of you > who care to send him one. Wow, they're dropping like flies. (Not meant to sound as crass as it comes off). Every contact I have had with Howard has been wonderful. He seems like a wonderful man and has certainly given his all to TEC. I am very saddened by this announcement 8-( So, it lloks like TEC is goin to have at least two new officers. I wonder who they'll put up for Secretary. This election just gets more and more interesting. By theway, I have decided to run for TEC Director. There are supposed to be three Director slots, but it appears that only two are currently filled. I doubt that I have a chance of winning as I have never personally met a single other TEC member and have corresponded with only three or four members that will be at the meeting. But, I figured I had to try. So, if you're going, I would appreciate your vote. I will never be able to fill the shoes of the likes of Howard and Gus, but I certainly hope to assist in pulling TEC thru this difficult time. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Greetings from Texas Date: 30 Jul 1997 21:00:56 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 tclh@hilconet.com wrote: > Hello all, > My name is Trey and I live just west of San Antonio. Aahz invited me to > suscribe about 3 weeks ago, and I have been lurking since that time. Welcome to the list, Trey. The first message is the hardest. 8-) > PS I am a newbie. What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-? Hmm, this is a new one on me. My emoticon useage is pretty much limited to the smiley 8-), frown 8-(, and wink ;). I suppose this could mean questioning. I've got a LONG list of smilies around here somewhere... Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tclh@hilconet.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Greetings from Texas Date: 30 Jul 1997 23:03:49 -0500 > Welcome to the list, Trey. The first message is the hardest. 8-) > > > PS I am a newbie. What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-? > > Hmm, this is a new one on me. My emoticon useage is pretty much > limited to the smiley 8-), frown 8-(, and wink ;). I suppose this could > mean questioning. I've got a LONG list of smilies around here somewhere... > > Peace, > > Aahz > Thanks for the clarification on emotion usage. I think I understand now. Trey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tink!!!" Subject: Re: (elongates) Greetings from Texas Date: 30 Jul 1997 21:25:18 -0700 > >PS I am a newbie. What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-? > > Hmm, this is a new one on me. My emoticon useage is pretty > much limited to the smiley 8-), frown 8-(, and wink ;). I suppose > this could mean questioning. I've got a LONG list of smilies around > here somewhere... and for the hardcore enthusiast, here is the addy for the canonical smiley list;> http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/smileys.html }8{{:) <-anyone remember a.l.f.? }8<:} <-from a.f.d -nikki -- "There's still a part of me that's 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/ dc.d f--- s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Emoticons Date: 30 Jul 1997 21:42:19 -0700 On 7/30/97 9:25 PM tink!!! (dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net ) wrote >> >PS I am a newbie. What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-? >> >> Hmm, this is a new one on me. My emoticon useage is pretty >> much limited to the smiley 8-), frown 8-(, and wink ;). I suppose >> this could mean questioning. I've got a LONG list of smilies around >> here somewhere... > >and for the hardcore enthusiast, here is the addy for the canonical >smiley list;> > >http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/smileys.html > >}8{{:) <-anyone remember a.l.f.? >}8<:} <-from a.f.d > >-nikki Greetings All, Here's a partial list... You may see some of these used on this mailing list... 8-) Source: Full Abbreviated Version Version :-) Happy :) (-: Left Handed/Australian (: :-( Sad :( ;-) Winky ;) #-) Oh, what a night! #) :-O Yelling/Shocked :O :-| Frowning :| For those wanting a more 'aesthetically pleasing' emoticon you can use the profile version... some examples are below: :^) :^] ;^) Perhaps, a semi-colon too far So, when words absolutely fail you... ~~:-[ Net Flame :-$ Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is :-P Sticking Out Tongue :-@ Screaming/Swearing/Very Angry/About To Be Sick :*) Drunk/Clown >;-> Wicked Grin :-# Been Smacked In The Mouth/Wears A Brace/Kiss R-) Broken Glasses (:-) Bald :-))) Is Very Fat :-{} Wears Lipstick =:-) A Dickhead @:-) Wears A Turban >:-> Leering $-) Yuppie/Just Won A Large Sum Of Money :,( Crying :=) Two Noses 8:] Gorilla 8-) Wears Glasses B:-) Wears Sun Glasses On Head :-T Keeping A Straight Face/Tight Lipped :-y Said With A Smile :-| Disgusted/Grim/No Expression :~-( Crying/Shed A Tear :'-( Crying :~(~~ Crying :-Q A Smoker :-! A Smoker %-\ Has A Hangover |-o Bored :-X A Kiss/Lips Are Sealed (:-D Has A Big Mouth (:+) Has A Big Nose :-{) Has A Moustache :-* Just Ate Something Sour/Bitter Taste/Kiss [:-) Is Wearing A Walkman Definitely, off the wall! Some people can't have anything else to do! ...those which are, frankly, taking the p***! (:-) Bicycle Helmets :-)' Tends To Drool =:-) Punk +-:-) The Pope O:-) An Angel *<:-)> Santa o-<:-{{{ Santa *<|:-) Santa/A Clown 5:-) Elvis Presley :-% Banker :-: Mutant Smiley (-:|:-) Siamese Twins 7:-) Fred Flinstone :/7) Cyrano de Bergerac C):-O C):-O C):-O C):-O A Barbershop Quartet 3:-o A Cow 8:-) A Pig/A Little Girl :\/ A Woodpecker ]:-> The Devil ,-) A One Eyed Winky |-( Lost Contact Lenses #:-) Matted Hair/Fur Hat/Crewcut/Messy Hair &:-) Curly Hair C=:-) A Chef ><:>== A Turkey @}->-- A Rose =|:-)= Uncle Sam/Abe Loncoln 7:) Ronald Reagan +<:-| Monk/Nun :_) A Boxer/Had a Fight/Nose Is Sliding Of Face >>:-) Devil/Horrible User >>>>(:-) A Hat Salesman { A Psycho (:I An Egghead b:-) A Baseball Fan/Has A Cap On (-) Needs A Haircut ;-(*) Feels Sick *****:-) Marge Simpson [:] A Robot :-[ A Vampire/Count Dracula/Pouting/Sarcastic :-F A Bucktoothed Vampire/Has Major Dental Problems :=) Orangutan/Has Two Noses :-? Smokes A Pipe :-8( Condescending 8-# Death/Dead >>:-<< Mad ;^) Smirking >>:-1 Klingon :-----} Liar/Pinnochio !-( Black Eye ) Cheshire Cat (:-D Blabber Mouth A Schizo *#*!^*&:-) phrenic :-'| Has A Cold/Flu :$) Donald Trump :-.) Marilyn Monroe/Madonna :-) 8 Dolly Parton :-|:-| Deja'vu ><*:oDX A Clown C|:-= Charlie Chaplin : .) Cindy Crawford =) Adolf Hitler ~:o A Baby ===:-D Don King 8(:-) Mickey Mouse/Walt Disney (|-| F Robocop 3:*> Rudolph the Reindeer P-) A Pirate %-~ Picasso ':-) Has One Eyebrow TLA's Anything to avoid RSI (repetitive strain injury) Grin ROFL Rolling on the floor, laughing LOL Laughing out loud IMHO In my humble opinion IOHO In our humble opinion IMO In my opinion BTW By the way RTFM Read the f****** manual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) Location Keeper Update... Date: 30 Jul 1997 23:36:02 -0700 Greetings All, For those who have joined the list in the last week or so, there are web sites where you can find locations of elongated (smashed, squished, rolled, smushed...) coins from around the world. Chris Aahz 'coined' (pun intended) the name "location keepers' for those of us building up a location resource. You can find my site called Smashed Coin Locator, and use it to find Willy's, Kathy's and others. Here's an update of what's new today: Smashed Coin Locator Page Updated (This is the main page...) http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html Engravers/Rollers/Designers Page Updated (Thanks to Willy Massey & Chris Aahz for help on this!) http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/engravers.html Arizona Page Updated http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/Arizona.html New World Smashed Coin Locator Page started (more to come soon) http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/WorldSmashedCoins. html New England/UK Page http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/england.html I have a serious (yeah!) backlog of locations and will get them on the web site as soon as possible. THANKS to all for emailing the locations. Please keep them coming! Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ENTROPYM@aol.com Subject: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade? Date: 31 Jul 1997 02:34:54 -0400 (EDT) I'm off to Santa Cruz this weekend, well Friday really. I understand that there is one penny there, as shown on the Penny Page. If anyone knows where this machine is or if there are any more machines, I'd like to know. I'll keep an eye out for the mysterious Popeye machine. If I'm lucky, I'm going to swing by the Winchester Mystery House and Big Trees...Railroad and pick up a few more. I'm going to be picking up some extras for trading, so if anyone wants one and wants to trade, please let me know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade? Date: 30 Jul 1997 23:46:06 -0700 Greetings, On 7/30/97 11:34 PM ENTROPYM@aol.com (ENTROPYM@aol.com ) wrote >I'm off to Santa Cruz this weekend, well Friday really. >I understand that there is one penny there, as shown on the Penny Page. >If anyone knows where this machine is or if there are any more machines, I'd >like to know. A friend had dinner on the pier recently and the restaurant folks told him where to find the machine. It was on or near the pier... >I'll keep an eye out for the mysterious Popeye machine. >If I'm lucky, I'm going to swing by the Winchester Mystery House and Big >Trees...Railroad and pick up a few more. >I'm going to be picking up some extras for trading, so if anyone wants one >and wants to trade, please let me know. I'd love a pre-1982 penny from the Railroad (along with a description of the machine, Eurolink vs somebody else's, location, etc). Thanks! Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Henry Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS Date: 31 Jul 1997 06:51:36 -0500 William C. Massey wrote: > > ATTENTION TO ALL TEC MEMBERS: > > If you did not recieve the latest issue of the TEC NEWS, Please let ME > know (massey@clark.net). I will be picking up extras at the ANA this > Friday, and will gladly send you one. My daughter has not received the latest issue. Could you please send her one. Thanks. Janelle for Kristina Henry 13231 179 1/2 Ave Elk River, MN 55330 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC roster Date: 31 Jul 1997 08:36:17 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-30 22:36:43 EDT, you write: << I consider myself a "cyberling" as well. At 22 years of age and working as a professional in the computer industry, I embrace adding more technology to TEC. >> I must be the youngest Cyberling on this list.....I'm turning 20 on Aug 8! Is there anyone younger?? Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC's future Date: 31 Jul 1997 08:41:30 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-31 03:29:31 EDT, you write: << I'm amazed they had any literature about them! I've never seen any elongate literature in a coin shop. What do they have? >> They just had that $130 encyclopedia of elongates that they ordered for me....but I am not going to buy it.....that is one week's pay for me! Liz PS Ya, I know I have a crummy part-time job.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade? Date: 31 Jul 1997 09:36:48 -0400 There are two machines in Santa Cruz. The first one is the boardwalk arcade. If you haven't been there before, it's located to the left of the pier. The second is located on the pier - about halfway up in the NorthWest corner of a gift shop. The gift shop penny, in my humble opinion, is much better than the arcade penny. I'm looking for pre-1982 versions of both, and would like to trade/buy them from you. - Jeff At 02:34 AM 7/31/97 -0400, you wrote: >I'm off to Santa Cruz this weekend, well Friday really. >I understand that there is one penny there, as shown on the Penny Page. >If anyone knows where this machine is or if there are any more machines, I'd >like to know. I'll keep an eye out for the mysterious Popeye machine. >If I'm lucky, I'm going to swing by the Winchester Mystery House and Big >Trees...Railroad and pick up a few more. >I'm going to be picking up some extras for trading, so if anyone wants one >and wants to trade, please let me know. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade? Date: 31 Jul 1997 10:08:57 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-31 10:02:47 EDT, you write: << I'm off to Santa Cruz this weekend, well Friday really. I understand that there is one penny there, as shown on the Penny Page. If anyone knows where this machine is or if there are any more machines, I'd like to know. I'll keep an eye out for the mysterious Popeye machine. If I'm lucky, I'm going to swing by the Winchester Mystery House and Big Trees...Railroad and pick up a few more. I'm going to be picking up some extras for trading, so if anyone wants one and wants to trade, please let me know. >> I don't think the popeye machine is there any more,but I found it in an archade.... I would like a winchester mystery house penny though.... I was there a long time ago! liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC's future Date: 31 Jul 1997 11:04:07 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-30 20:14:17 EDT, you write: > I would love to get TEC, but I want to see a copy first..... and > I would like it to be bi-monthly! My $0.02! > Liz I'd like to see it more often, even if sponsored by penney press companies pushing the locations of their machines just to get us to buy from them. :-) But, at the subscription price it's a bargan! -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 P.S. Just signed up my daughter too! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade? Date: 31 Jul 1997 09:14:14 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 ENTROPYM@aol.com wrote: > I'm off to Santa Cruz this weekend, well Friday really. > I understand that there is one penny there, as shown on the Penny Page. > If anyone knows where this machine is or if there are any more machines, I'd The machine is in the main arcade at the Boardwalk. > like to know. I'll keep an eye out for the mysterious Popeye machine. The Popeye machine has not been there for many years. Popeye used to be the mascot for the Boardwalk. When he left as their mascot his penny left as well. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS Date: 31 Jul 1997 12:35:05 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-31 00:00:05 EDT, you write: > By theway, I have decided to run for TEC Director. There are > supposed to be three Director slots, but it appears that only two are > currently filled. I doubt that I have a chance of winning as I have > never personally met a single other TEC member and have corresponded with > only three or four members that will be at the meeting. But, I figured I > had to try. So, if you're going, I would appreciate your vote. I will > never be able to fill the shoes of the likes of Howard and Gus, but I > certainly hope to assist in pulling TEC thru this difficult time. > How do we get a ballot? -Bob Hoff TEC # 2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS Date: 31 Jul 1997 09:38:35 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-31 00:00:05 EDT, you write: > > > By theway, I have decided to run for TEC Director. There are > > How do we get a ballot? That's one of the reasons I'm running. You don't get to vote unless you attend the meeting. This is a direct violation of the Constitution and By-Laws but it's what is happening this year. This election screw-up is really what started the messages about the TEC administration. Several of us has expressed our displeasure, but there simply was not time before the election to do anything about it. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS Date: 31 Jul 1997 14:29:36 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-31 12:41:20 EDT, you write: > > How do we get a ballot? > > > That's one of the reasons I'm running. You don't get to vote > unless you attend the meeting. This is a direct violation of the > Constitution and By-Laws but it's what is happening this year. This > election screw-up is really what started the messages about the TEC > administration. Several of us has expressed our displeasure, but there > simply was not time before the election to do anything about it. > What are the rules about absent ballots or proxies? -Bob Hoff TEC #2033 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade? Date: 31 Jul 1997 11:39:21 -0700 On 7/31/97 7:08 AM Liz Dale (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote >I don't think the popeye machine is there any more,but I found it in an >archade.... I would like a winchester mystery house penny though.... I was >there a long time ago! >liz Liz, Is the Popeye in an arcade now? Where? There are 3 pennis from Winchester if I remember correctly. All older Eurolink machines. Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Egd9020@aol.com Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade? Date: 31 Jul 1997 18:13:20 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-31 17:46:31 EDT, you write: << Is the Popeye in an arcade now? Where? >> I was there about 14 years ago when I was 6 or 7. I don't remember which archade it was in. I was only at the santa cruze boardwalk once while on vacation in CA. Sorry I don't have more info! Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary C. and Ben L." Subject: (elongates) Maine... Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:24:46 -0400 Anybody out there know of any elongate machines in Maine or maybe New Brunswick, Canada? I'm taking a 'little' trip next week from Mass. to Ft. Kent Maine on the N.B. Canada border. Nver seen a machine in Maine, but ya never know... Thanks all. Ben Lavine mcsquare@erols.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CWFIII@aol.com Subject: (elongates) Disney Coins Date: 31 Jul 1997 20:19:34 -0400 (EDT) I'm a new guy to the list and am surprised to find the number of individuals contributing to this board, what a cooperative group. I was just at DL a couple of weeks ago for the NFFC convention and picked up a set three quarters and three pennies all of which are dated 1995 and disneyana on the tops, any ideas as to what exactly I have got here? Also, I remeber reading previously that someone was working on a catalog of the Disney (land and world) coins to date, is something like that available yet? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Carl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney Coins Date: 31 Jul 1997 18:35:33 -0700 Carl, Welcome to the list! You will find this a very active group! Where did you find the Disneyana coins (what is NFFC)? Thanks Bert On 7/31/97 5:19 PM CWFIII@aol.com (CWFIII@aol.com ) wrote >I'm a new guy to the list and am surprised to find the number of individuals >contributing to this board, what a cooperative group. I was just at DL a >couple of weeks ago for the NFFC convention and picked up a set three >quarters and three pennies all of which are dated 1995 and disneyana on the >tops, any ideas as to what exactly I have got here? Also, I remeber reading >previously that someone was working on a catalog of the Disney (land and >world) coins to date, is something like that available yet? Any info would be >greatly appreciated. > >Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CWFIII@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (elongates) Disney Coins Date: 31 Jul 1997 21:53:55 -0400 (EDT) The NFFC is the national fantasy fan club (can't use the name for legal reasons you know) a Disneyana organization that has annual conventions and sales at the Hyatt Regency in Anaheim, the coins are starting to hit with some of the vendors and a few had some sets, the problem was determining the dates for these sets. This Disneyana set was one of them, the guy I bought it from seemed to think that it was a castmember only deal, but as I said before, I don't know. Carl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) Disneyana Question Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:03:47 -0700 Greetings All, If our coins are starting to show up at Disneyana conventions... then I better get my pre-82's and head out the door! Does anyone know of any other conventions this year? Thanks! Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ... <...> Subject: RE: (elongates) Greetings from Texas Date: 31 Jul 1997 21:00:42 -0500 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC9DF4.CFEB0BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, My name is Trey and I live just west of San Antonio. Aahz invited me to suscribe about 3 weeks ago, and I have been lurking since that time. Howdy Trey! Great to have another Texan in the group. I became interested in elongates thru my children. The coins were inexpensive gifts brought home from my travels. =20 I think it's great the way children get so excited about these coins. My = nephew is 6 and he can't wait to see what his Aunt Kathy brings him. = Rocky Rockholt has a set of dinosaurs that can be purchased and kids = really get a kick out of them. However, I really got hooked in early June while at Disney World. The = 25th anniversary quarter elongates were just the ticket. I wish I had planned ahead and packed a roll of silver quarters. Maybe some one here can help you find the other's you need to complete = the set! My oldest daughter decided to assemble her set a little late in our trip. She has multiples of at least 8 of the coins, but is missing 4-5 coins needed to complete a set. If anyone is interested in trading to complete sets, I will post a trade list. Also, I may be able to help with machine locations for those going to D.W. in September. Some are a little difficult to find. I'd be interested. My sister is going in Sept and I won't let her come = back till she spent every quarter and penny I give her! What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-? 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Welcome! And thanx for the compliment 8-) > I was just at DL a > couple of weeks ago for the NFFC convention and picked up a set three > quarters and three pennies all of which are dated 1995 and disneyana on the > tops, any ideas as to what exactly I have got here? You've got some wonderful momentos that some people would like to get their hands on. Especially me 8-) > Also, I remeber reading > previously that someone was working on a catalog of the Disney (land and > world) coins to date, is something like that available yet? Any info would be > greatly appreciated. That's me! I'm working on cataloging all the Disney coins. As far as I know this has never been done. At the moment it is moving slowly. I have most of the info on 'permanent' machines at DL, little info on WDW, and know of only a few limited edition coins. However, I WILL get this project completed, I just don't know when. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:48:50 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote: > What are the rules about absent ballots or proxies? Well the rules (in the form of the TEC Constitution and By-Laws) detail a very specific manner for elections which basic boils down to eavery member is supposed to receive a ballot and a numbered envelope. Everyone completes their ballot and mails it in. The ballots are counted and the results announced at the meeting. This year, for reasons that have yet been reasonably explained to me, no ballots went out and there will be a live vote at the meeting. That's all I know. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: (elongates) New State Added (Nebraska) Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:58:59 -0700 Evening! I just got a report from an online friend (Kathy in Benson AZ). She has a friend that was in Kearney Nebraska and found a machine at Cabela's. A quick search found this info: >You'll find a huge wildlife and fish display among the aisles of the >world's foremost outdoor outfitter. Roam the store with deer, elk, moose, >bobcats, cougars, record stringers of fish and more. East Highway 30. >(308)237-7999 The new Nebraska page is at: http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/nebraska.html 8-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: (elongates) SCBB Popeye Penny Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:51:32 -0700 (PDT) I thought I'd already posted this info, but apparently not: Accoding to the buyer at the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk the Popeye penny was replaced with the current logo penny about five years ago when SCBB lost the contract with Popeye (or his agent 8-). He used to be their mascot, thus was on their penny. When he was no longer the mascot he was removed from the penny. Peace, Aahz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Aahz Subject: Re: Re: (elongates) Disney Coins Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 CWFIII@aol.com wrote: > sales at the Hyatt Regency in Anaheim, the coins are starting to hit with > some of the vendors and a few had some sets, the problem was determining the > dates for these sets. > > This Disneyana set was one of them, the guy I bought it from seemed to think > that it was a castmember only deal, but as I said before, I don't know. I'm sorry, I misunderstand this question in your previous post. What design/words are on the coins? You said they were a 1995 set. Is this based on the date of the coin or is the date in the design? Peace, Aahz (Who's not always as flippant as he was in his prior post) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Chris Aahz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com) Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Creighton Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies Date: 30 Jul 1997 10:45:33 -0700 On 7/30/97 10:25 AM R0BERTH0FF@aol.com (R0BERTH0FF@aol.com ) wrote >Who cares about the glass??? Don't scratch the coins! :-) > >-Bob Hoff >TEC#2033 Priceless comment Bob! Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Dixon Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies Date: 30 Jul 1997 13:52:08 -0400 *grin* At 01:25 PM 7/30/97 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-07-30 00:57:27 EDT, you write: > >> My local Kinko's management freaked HARD when they heard I was >> gonna place coins on their scanner. They were utterly convinved that >> there was no way to do this without scratching the glass. >> >> Just thought I'd forewarn y'all. >> >> Aahz >> > >Who cares about the glass??? Don't scratch the coins! :-) > >-Bob Hoff >TEC#2033 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com Software Engineer Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com 411 Waverley Oaks Road Waltham, MA 02154