From: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-bookshelf-digest) To: lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #923 Reply-To: lds-bookshelf Sender: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-bookshelf-digest Thursday, May 3 2001 Volume 01 : Number 923 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:48:04 -0700 From: "Steve Eccles" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] In Jeopardy I guess my fears of the Church trying to become mainstream are = unfounded. - --Steve - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of = RickBook@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 7:26 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] In Jeopardy On Jeopardy this evening, they had a teen competition.=A0 Final Jeopardy = Answer: "In 1859, this man told Horace Greeley, 'I have fifteen wives.=A0 I do = not know anyone who has more." The girl with the lowest score guessed Henry VIII.=A0 She honestly did. The boy with the middle score guessed Abraham Lincoln.=A0 He honestly = did. The girl with the highest score guessed some name I have never heard, = and which is not in my biographical dictionary.=A0 She won, because she = risked very little. So the Church can relax:=A0 the upcoming generation does NOT think = Mormons are not Christian.=A0 They don't think about Mormons at all.=A0 I talked = with a college student from Cornell recently.=A0 When the topic of Mormonism = came up, he merely said he thought they were kinda weird.=A0 End of topic. Rick Grunder - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - -=A0=A0 "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message = body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com"=20 - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:48:40 -0700 From: Keith Irwin Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] In Jeopardy One of my good LDS cyberfriends, Robert Slaven, was a five time Jeopardy champion. Lost the tournament of champions to the ultimate winner. Bob had no less than THREE Mormon questions during his five days. I first thought this was an anomaly but have since noticed that Mormonism seems a fairly frequent topic on this show. Keith At 10:26 PM 4/30/01 -0400, Rickbook wrote: >On Jeopardy this evening, they had a teen competition. Final Jeopardy Answer: > >"In 1859, this man told Horace Greeley, 'I have fifteen wives. I do not know >anyone who has more." > >The girl with the lowest score guessed Henry VIII. She honestly did. > >The boy with the middle score guessed Abraham Lincoln. He honestly did. > >The girl with the highest score guessed some name I have never heard, and >which is not in my biographical dictionary. She won, because she risked very >little. > >So the Church can relax: the upcoming generation does NOT think Mormons are >not Christian. They don't think about Mormons at all. I talked with a >college student from Cornell recently. When the topic of Mormonism came up, >he merely said he thought they were kinda weird. End of topic. > >Rick Grunder > >---------------------------------------------------------- >- LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books >- To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with >- "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. >- For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 22:19:05 -0600 From: "Morgan Adair" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Preservation: _DOUBLE FOLD: LIBRARIES AND THE ASSAULT ON PAPER_ Articles from Sunday DesNews on DOUBLE FOLD: LIBRARIES AND THE ASSAULT ON = PAPER; by Nicholson Baker; Random House, 370 pages; $25.95: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,270015481,00.html?textfield=3DBaker http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,270015508,00.html? Baker says that libraries aren't doing an adequate job of preserving books = and periodicals. An interview with Baker (RealAudio format): http://www.wamu.org/ram/2001/r2010501.ram=20 MBA - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:24:48 -0400 From: Cahoon_Doug@emc.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] 3rd vol. of Papers I have heard that the 3rd Jesse vol. of JS papers has cleared the committees and will be released. I have also heard there are to be 6 vols. Can anyone confirm this? - --Doug - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:41:18 -0700 From: "Steve Eccles" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] 3rd vol. of Papers I just posted on this last week. I spoke with Grant Underwood who will = be editing one of the volumes. Dean Jesse is still over the project, but = others have been assigned to help him. Grant is in the J.F.Smith Institute now at BYU. I'm hoping to find out what the hang-up was on volume 3 at MHA. Grant indicated "At that level (meaning Correlation or "the Bretheren") = things move slowly and this book wasn't a priority with them." - --Steve - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of = Cahoon_Doug@emc.com Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:25 AM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] 3rd vol. of Papers I have heard that the 3rd Jesse vol. of JS papers has cleared the = committees and will be released. I have also heard there are to be 6 vols. Can = anyone confirm this? - --Doug - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - -=A0=A0 "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message = body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:49:40 -0400 From: Cahoon_Doug@emc.com Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] 3rd vol. of Papers Sorry Steve, I recently returned from Mexico and must have missed your post. Thanks for the info. - --Doug > -----Original Message----- > > I just posted on this last week. I spoke with Grant Underwood who will be > editing one of the volumes. Dean Jesse is still over the project, but > others have been assigned to help him. > > Grant is in the J.F.Smith Institute now at BYU. > > I'm hoping to find out what the hang-up was on volume 3 at MHA. > > Grant indicated "At that level (meaning Correlation or "the Bretheren") > things move slowly and this book wasn't a priority with them." > > --Steve > > - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:39:39 EDT From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Assualt on Paper In a message dated 05/02/2001 12:19:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MADAIR@novell.com writes: << Articles from Sunday DesNews on DOUBLE FOLD: LIBRARIES AND THE ASSAULT ON PAPER; by Nicholson Baker; Random House, 370 pages; $25.95: . . . . . Baker says that libraries aren't doing an adequate job of preserving books and periodicals. >> I heard him interviewed on the Diane Rehm show on NPR. One of the factors he mentioned is the wholesale microfilming and discarding of original newspapers by libraries. This is a stock-in-trade subject any time rare book dealers gather for lunch, at least in my crowd. The horror stories of libraries discarding valuable sources go on and on. The underlying causes are generally librarian unawareness of history and disrespect for originals. The immediate causes are probably pressure to make space for more stuff (usually stuff in immediate demand by typical library patrons), and busy work schedules remunerated by fixed salaries. The results are the total disappearance of any originals of some newspapers, and astounding monetary losses to these libraries, which could have sold their microfilmed originals for thousands of dollars instead of sending them to pulping mills. One standard story involves a dealer or two in New York City who made their livings in part by going regularly to the loading docks of the NY Public and similar institutions, picking up free discarded microfilmed originals, and then selling them for hefty prices to other collectors and institutions. And of course, the pathetic condition of ultra-valuable Mormon pamphlets in the NY Public Library Annex, at least as I witnessed it a decade ago, is astonishing. Hope that has improved, but I certainly wouldn't attempt talking to officials there about it. Most librarians are so beleaguered by serials and non-print budgets, committee meetings, and administrative red tape that discussion with them about subjects like I mention above is next to impossible. Glad to say that I do not perceive such problems at BYU, the Church Archives, U of U or Utah State, all of which seem to understand and appreciate the importance of these issues. Rick Grunder Rick Grunder - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:08:09 -0500 From: "Mick Reasor" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Assualt on Paper I was a bit surprised to find our college librarian was so motivated to = rid himself of paper. They changed the name from library to resource = center and were well on their way to going electronic, which has its = advandages in a remote rural area, but alarming to a "feel the paper" kind = of guy. Every year he would ask me which books about art could be = discarded and every year I would say none. I really couldn't justify = some of the 70's acquisitions on macrame and tole painting, but it was the = principle of the thing. Now he is retired and the books are not. The = battle goes on. Speaking of preservation I just got a copy of: WILCOX, Annie Tremmel. : A Degree of Mastery: A Journey Through Book = Arts Apprenticeship. ; Minneapolis: New Rivers Press (1999). [Books about Books]. Fine first edition, hardcover in a near fine dust = jacket. 27836 . USD13. Has anyone read this? I won't get to it myself for a couple of weeks. = (yes, I say that about every book I buy.) Mick - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:26:55 -0600 From: John Hatch Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] 3rd vol. of Papers I've also heard that this is the year for Papers Vol. 3. I would, however, like to know what the hold up really was, since you mentioned that Grant Underwood made it clear that it was not the incident of Joseph slapping Emma, as has been previously spread around. It was also my understanding that there is actually material for 9 or 10 vols. When I spoke to Dean Jessee about a year ago, this is what he indicated to me. Hopefully we really will see it this year! John Steve Eccles wrote: > I just posted on this last week. I spoke with Grant Underwood who will be editing one of the volumes. Dean Jesse is still over the project, but others have been assigned to help him. > > Grant is in the J.F.Smith Institute now at BYU. > > I'm hoping to find out what the hang-up was on volume 3 at MHA. > > Grant indicated "At that level (meaning Correlation or "the Bretheren") things move slowly and this book wasn't a priority with them." > > --Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Cahoon_Doug@emc.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:25 AM > To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] 3rd vol. of Papers > > I have heard that the 3rd Jesse vol. of JS papers has cleared the committees > and will be released. I have also heard there are to be 6 vols. Can anyone > confirm this? > > --Doug > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:38:02 EDT From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Assault on Paper In a message dated 05/02/2001 12:09:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mreasor@it.cc.mn.us writes: << They changed the name from library to resource center and were well on their way to going electronic, which has its advandages in a remote rural area, but alarming to a "feel the paper" kind of guy. >> In the end, I suppose that it comes down to personal taste and mindset. For example, I cannot, in the wildest stretches of my imagination, envision what IS the appeal of sports in this world. Everything about group sports turns me off totally: the spirit of competition, the noise and tension, the mass hysteria; (I'll just go to the gym alone, and walk in my woods every day, thank you!). Before you think I am weird, my point is that we who love real books and real manuscripts seem incomprehensible to most of the world. We simply cannot communicate to a non-book/paper lover what we feel. They hear the words, but they cannot feel the passion. Until the days they died, neither of my parents (supportive and proud as they were) understood why people wanted to buy my books. "What do these libraries DO with them?" So we just have to get these things ourselves, and preserve them ourselves, or be glad for the few institutions who share our spectrum of value. Rick Grunder - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:21:51 -0700 From: "Joe Geisner" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] 3rd vol. of Papers Scott Faulring was kind enough to answer an email I sent him. In his response he told me, as has been mentioned, Dean Jesse is general editor and Scott is associate editor. Scott wrote that there are plans for volumes 4-12 in the series. Scott also wrote that it is hoped volume 3 will be available in late 2002. Joe >I have heard that the 3rd Jesse vol. of JS papers has cleared the >committees >and will be released. I have also heard there are to be 6 vols. Can anyone >confirm this? > >--Doug _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:30:54 -0700 From: "Joe Geisner" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Assault on Paper I get pretty much the same reaction from everyone I know. Their question is, "why in the world do you have SO MANY books". When I first started reading and buying, I thought everyone loved books! I agree with you whote heartedly about the Utah institutions. It makes me sick to read from Will Bagley and Bill MacKinnon that all of Dale Morgan's papers are in a storage unit in Richmond instead of at UC Berkley. With all of the sulferdioxide clouds and Tosco refinery fires killing the people of Richmond, I wonder what it is doing to Dale Morgan's papers. This may be extreme, but I believe both situations are wrong. I wonder if anyone at BYU has considered approaching NYPL about aquiring their collection? Joe > >In the end, I suppose that it comes down to personal taste and mindset. >For >example, I cannot, in the wildest stretches of my imagination, envision >what >IS the appeal of sports in this world. Everything about group sports turns >me off totally: the spirit of competition, the noise and tension, the mass >hysteria; (I'll just go to the gym alone, and walk in my woods every day, >thank you!). Before you think I am weird, my point is that we who love >real >books and real manuscripts seem incomprehensible to most of the world. > >We simply cannot communicate to a non-book/paper lover what we feel. They >hear the words, but they cannot feel the passion. Until the days they >died, >neither of my parents (supportive and proud as they were) understood why >people wanted to buy my books. "What do these libraries DO with them?" > >So we just have to get these things ourselves, and preserve them ourselves, >or be glad for the few institutions who share our spectrum of value. > >Rick Grunder > >---------------------------------------------------------- >- LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books >- To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with >- "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. >- For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 00:56:49 -0600 From: John Hatch Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking Shelfers, Can anyone recommend a good book on bookmaking? I'm particularly interested in two different aspects: First, a history of bookmaking, including origins, development, regional differences, etc. Second, how books are generally made today from start to finish, including variances such as hand sewn bindings vs. machine, cloth bindings vs. wrappers, etc. If all this information is in one book, great. If I should be picking up two separate ones to get more (and better) information on each topic, I'm more than willing to do so. Thanks! John - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 08:32:40 -0500 From: "Mick Reasor" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking A book that meets some of John's criteria is: Bookbinding its Background = and Technique by Edith Diehl. Originally published in the 60's in two = volumes is now available in a single softbound volume from Dover for = about $20 http://store.doverpublications.com/=20 Dover has reprints of several classic bookbinding texts. An Interesting = phenomenon I've seen is bookbinding courses use these softcover texts and = the course projects include rebinding them in hardcover. I'd also recommend this site : Bookbinding and the Conservation of Books: = A Dictionary of Descriptive Terminology http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/don/don.html=20 I've found some interesting things at the Canadian Bookbinding and Book = Artists Guild site. Including plans for a homemade standing press. (Canadians apparently call formica type laminate "arborite." But then they = also call couches chesterfields.) http://www.cbbag.ca/=20 Mick - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 08:36:31 -0500 From: "Mick Reasor" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] 3rd vol. of Papers What I want to know is if all 12 volumes are going to have slightly = different colored dustjackets. It would be a shame if some of them = matched, or are mine the only ones that don't? Mick - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:01:15 EDT From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking In a message dated 05/03/2001 9:33:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mreasor@it.cc.mn.us writes: << A book that meets some of John's criteria is: Bookbinding its Background and Technique by Edith Diehl. Originally published in the 60's in two volumes is now available in a single softbound volume from Dover for about $20 http://store.doverpublications.com/ >> Certainly a respected name in this subject. Another classic text which allows one to explore some of the minutiae and really talk like a pro: Philip Gaskell: A NEW INTRODUCTION TO BIBLIOGRAPHY. NY & Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 1972. This book will show you 29 different grains of book cloth, for example, tell you when various bindings came into being, and how to give the collation of a five-hundred year-old book without page numbers. Detailed diagrams demystify the complexities of form arrangement and sheet folding to make the various duodecimos and sextidecimos, allowing you to understand how your mid-century Doctrine and Covenants printed in Liverpool could have been bound up with the missing and duplicated pages you just noticed. A selection, taken at random from pp. 176-7 . . . "Gutenberg himself appears to have been checked on this account and even Plantin, who was a shrewd man, was constantly plagued with problems resulting from excessive borrowing (the investment in his business in 1565 being about 20,000 florins, then worth about L2,750 sterling, a considerable sum in the sixteenth century). Consequently, many books were financed in partnership (see the next section). "The cost of equipping a small printing house was not in itself enormous. A shop with 2 presses and 1,500 kg. of type with its related equipment could be set up for about L350 (mid-eighteenth-century prices), but more than half as much again was needed to cover wages and overheads before any return could be expected. The cost of the paper (if the printed provided it himself) could be even more than the cost of printing on it, and unlike the labour, moreover, it had to be bought in advance of rather than during production. . . ." 438 pages, with instructive diagrams, etc. Don't know where to find a copy - took me years, but I'll bet it is in reprint by now. Rick Grunder - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 13:11:52 -0500 From: "Mick Reasor" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking ...438 pages, with instructive diagrams, etc. Don't know where to find a = copy -=20 took me years... Rick Grunder... Yes, but you were looking for the book before the miracle of the internet. = There are a dozen copies currently listed on a "large internet booksellers= database." Was that me complaining about going electronic? Price range = $30 to $70. I'd pick up a spare if I were you. Mick - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:05:00 EDT From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking In a message dated 05/03/2001 2:13:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mreasor@it.cc.mn.us writes: << Yes, but you were looking for the book before the miracle of the internet. There are a dozen copies currently listed on a "large internet booksellers database." Was that me complaining about going electronic? Price range $30 to $70. I'd pick up a spare if I were you. >> Paid $42 for mine, about 5,000 checks ago. I never met Mr. Gaskell, but met his son in the 1970s while he was working for a bookseller who sent him to BYU Library with antiquarian material to sell us. While I do not have a degree in Library Science, I took a Library Science course at BYU on bibliography, and this was our text. Russ Clement (if some of you know him) and I shared the book. Unwilling to cut it in two (like Solomon and the baby), we flipped for it or something once the course was completed, and Russ was the winner. RG - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 14:20:53 -0600 From: John Hatch Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking Thanks for all the responses to my inquiry. I'd have said thanks earlier, but I've been fighting all morning long to rid my computer of a nasty virus. I think all is finally well... BTW, this particular virus made its way to me via Tom Kimball from his Signature Books address. I think he's working on the problem, but if you get a blank message from Tom with only an attachment, DON'T OPEN IT! As soon as I clicked on it and heard my hard drive whirling but saw nothing happening, I hung my head in shame for not checking it out first. I'm excited to look into these books that have been mentioned - thanks again! And if anyone knows of any others, I'm still interested. John RickBook@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 05/03/2001 2:13:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > mreasor@it.cc.mn.us writes: > > << Yes, but you were looking for the book before the miracle of the internet. > There are a dozen copies currently listed on a "large internet booksellers > database." Was that me complaining about going electronic? Price range $30 > to $70. I'd pick up a spare if I were you. >> > > Paid $42 for mine, about 5,000 checks ago. I never met Mr. Gaskell, but met > his son in the 1970s while he was working for a bookseller who sent him to > BYU Library with antiquarian material to sell us. While I do not have a > degree in Library Science, I took a Library Science course at BYU on > bibliography, and this was our text. Russ Clement (if some of you know him) > and I shared the book. Unwilling to cut it in two (like Solomon and the > baby), we flipped for it or something once the course was completed, and Russ > was the winner. > > RG > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 18:18:14 -0700 From: "David Skidmore" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking John and Rick A great source is: Oak Knoll Press, 310 Delaware Street, New Castle, EE 19720 Phone (302) 328-7232 1-800-996-2556 E-mail: oakknoll@oakknoll.com Fax: (302)328-7274 Web: www.oakknoll.com They are specialists in out of print and in- print books about books. They have over 600 IN-PRINT publications of books about books. Their catalog is fun just to see what I'm missing. Rick's book by Gaskill is listed in print in paperback. "A New Introduction to Bibliography" by P. Gaskell, 1995, 464 p., 141 illust., ISBN 1-884718-13-2, Order No. 42436, Price #29.95. Good Luck, David Skidmore - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hatch" To: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking > Thanks for all the responses to my inquiry. I'd have said thanks earlier, but > I've been fighting all morning long to rid my computer of a nasty virus. I think > all is finally well... BTW, this particular virus made its way to me via Tom > Kimball from his Signature Books address. I think he's working on the problem, > but if you get a blank message from Tom with only an attachment, DON'T OPEN IT! > As soon as I clicked on it and heard my hard drive whirling but saw nothing > happening, I hung my head in shame for not checking it out first. > > I'm excited to look into these books that have been mentioned - thanks again! > And if anyone knows of any others, I'm still interested. > > John > > RickBook@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 05/03/2001 2:13:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > mreasor@it.cc.mn.us writes: > > > > << Yes, but you were looking for the book before the miracle of the internet. > > There are a dozen copies currently listed on a "large internet booksellers > > database." Was that me complaining about going electronic? Price range $30 > > to $70. I'd pick up a spare if I were you. >> > > > > Paid $42 for mine, about 5,000 checks ago. I never met Mr. Gaskell, but met > > his son in the 1970s while he was working for a bookseller who sent him to > > BYU Library with antiquarian material to sell us. While I do not have a > > degree in Library Science, I took a Library Science course at BYU on > > bibliography, and this was our text. Russ Clement (if some of you know him) > > and I shared the book. Unwilling to cut it in two (like Solomon and the > > baby), we flipped for it or something once the course was completed, and Russ > > was the winner. > > > > RG > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 23:23:35 EDT From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking In a message dated 05/03/2001 9:22:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DKSkidmore@email.msn.com writes: << John and Rick A great source is: Oak Knoll Press, 310 Delaware Street, New Castle, EE 19720 Phone (302) 328-7232 1-800-996-2556 >> Thanks, David. Oak Knoll's catalog always makes me feel guilty, because I know I should order about half of their stuff and read up! Rick - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 21:47:57 -0600 From: John Hatch Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking David, Thanks for this information. I've been browsing through the site and it's a lot of fun and has some great stuff. Unfortunately, I've discovered a whole new arena of books I'll have to patiently buy one at a time, since I can't afford them all right now . John David Skidmore wrote: > John and Rick > A great source is: > Oak Knoll Press, 310 Delaware Street, New Castle, EE 19720 > Phone (302) 328-7232 1-800-996-2556 > E-mail: oakknoll@oakknoll.com > Fax: (302)328-7274 > Web: www.oakknoll.com > > They are specialists in out of print and in- print books about books. They > have over 600 IN-PRINT publications of books about books. > Their catalog is fun just to see what I'm missing. Rick's book by Gaskill > is listed in print in paperback. > "A New Introduction to Bibliography" by P. Gaskell, 1995, 464 p., 141 > illust., ISBN 1-884718-13-2, Order No. 42436, Price #29.95. > > Good Luck, > David Skidmore > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hatch" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Bookmaking > > > Thanks for all the responses to my inquiry. I'd have said thanks earlier, > but > > I've been fighting all morning long to rid my computer of a nasty virus. > I think > > all is finally well... BTW, this particular virus made its way to me via > Tom > > Kimball from his Signature Books address. I think he's working on the > problem, > > but if you get a blank message from Tom with only an attachment, DON'T > OPEN IT! > > As soon as I clicked on it and heard my hard drive whirling but saw > nothing > > happening, I hung my head in shame for not checking it out first. > > > > I'm excited to look into these books that have been mentioned - thanks > again! > > And if anyone knows of any others, I'm still interested. > > > > John > > > > RickBook@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 05/03/2001 2:13:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > mreasor@it.cc.mn.us writes: > > > > > > << Yes, but you were looking for the book before the miracle of the > internet. > > > There are a dozen copies currently listed on a "large internet > booksellers > > > database." Was that me complaining about going electronic? Price range > $30 > > > to $70. I'd pick up a spare if I were you. >> > > > > > > Paid $42 for mine, about 5,000 checks ago. I never met Mr. Gaskell, but > met > > > his son in the 1970s while he was working for a bookseller who sent him > to > > > BYU Library with antiquarian material to sell us. While I do not have a > > > degree in Library Science, I took a Library Science course at BYU on > > > bibliography, and this was our text. Russ Clement (if some of you know > him) > > > and I shared the book. Unwilling to cut it in two (like Solomon and the > > > baby), we flipped for it or something once the course was completed, and > Russ > > > was the winner. > > > > > > RG > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > > > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > > > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > > > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ End of lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #923 ***********************************