From: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-bookshelf-digest) To: lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #925 Reply-To: lds-bookshelf Sender: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-bookshelf-digest Sunday, May 27 2001 Volume 01 : Number 925 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:29:38 -0700 From: "Steve Eccles" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Thanks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0E15A.D429F680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you who weren't at the Mormon History Assn. meetings, this = won't mean anything but will maybe spur you on to join that august group = and meet with us in 2002 in Tucson, AZ. =20 I really want to thank Ken for his efforts and those of his family & = friends to host the LDS book collectors at Cedar City for the MHA. =20 We had a great time Saturday morning meeting Bill McKinnon, Will Bagley, = Diane & Bob Peel, and all of the others who were there. =20 The food was magnificent and the company was just as good. =20 I expect to see photos cropping up soon of the motley group that = assembled on campus before the start of the Saturday sessions. =20 Ken ... what a great thing you did! I really appreciate it & the work = you did for MHA in your part of the assignments. =20 - --Steve =20 =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0E15A.D429F680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For those of you who weren’t at the Mormon History Assn. meetings, this = won’t mean anything but will maybe spur you on to join that august group and meet with us in = 2002 in Tucson, AZ.

 

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I really want to thank = Ken for his efforts and those of his family & friends to host the LDS = book collectors at Cedar City for the MHA.

 

We had a great time Saturday morning meeting = Bill McKinnon, = Will Bagley, = Diane & Bob = Peel, and all of the others who were there.

 

The food was magnificent and the = company was just as good.

 

I expect to see photos cropping up = soon of the motley group that assembled on campus before the start = of the Saturday = sessions.

 

Ken = ... what a great thing you did! I really appreciate it & the = work you did for MHA in your part of the = assignments.

 

--Steve

 

 

- ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0E15A.D429F680-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:23:10 -0700 From: "Joe Geisner" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Steve, Phil, Kendall, and others, If it would not be too much to ask. Would you mind sharing with us some of your thoughts on the sessions you attended, and the history/book gossip you heard? Joe _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:35:49 -0700 From: "Steve Eccles" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Love to. The most startling session I attended was a panel discussion with three = polygamist women. I've always lived in So. Calif. And knew polygamy went = on in Utah, but have never actually seen anyone who practices it that I = know of. These women were normal in every sense of the word. Any one of them = could have been in my ward or lived next door. They were as sincere in = their beliefs as I am mine. I don't know what I expected, but I was taken aback at this.=20 Will gave a very moving talk, but I take exception to much of what he = had to say. He related some very compelling accounts of MMM survivors. = However, these were the accounts of the young (3 year olds) who = survived. I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist, but I know you can't = give a lot of credence to memories from that young of a witness. The = mayor of Cedar City welcomed us, and one of his comments were that he = wished he had recorded many things in his youth. He said now that he is = in his mid 50's, he can clearly remember many things that never even = occurred in his youth. I think that you must really be careful in giving = full credibility to these accounts. There were so many wonderful sessions that I can't begin to go into what = I learned. Hopefully others have better recall or better notes than I = do. I will say that the final devotional was one of the finest services I = have been to in many years. We truly have a rich heritage and I get so much from MHA & the Journal = of Mormon History. BTW, there is a wonderful article about S. Dilworth = Young in one of the most recent JMA's. It is a must read. The friendships that develop are really great. - --Steve - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Joe Geisner Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:23 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Steve, Phil, Kendall, and others, If it would not be too much to ask. Would you mind sharing with us some = of your thoughts on the sessions you attended, and the history/book gossip = you heard? Joe _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - -=A0=A0 "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message = body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com"=20 - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:06:07 -0700 From: "Joe Geisner" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Thank you Steve. Their book "Voices in Harmony" is a book I would suggest to anyone interested in plural marriage. I think it is the first book to be written from the wives perspective. Personally there is much about plural marriage that is offensive to me, but the lives and stories of these woman cause us to think about and respect their choices. Joe >Love to. > >The most startling session I attended was a panel discussion with three >polygamist women. I've always lived in So. Calif. And knew polygamy went on >in Utah, but have never actually seen anyone who practices it that I know >of. > >These women were normal in every sense of the word. Any one of them could >have been in my ward or lived next door. They were as sincere in their >beliefs as I am mine. > >I don't know what I expected, but I was taken aback at this. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:02:03 -0600 From: "Hugh J. McKell" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Hi All, Kendall has been kind enough to feed all the bookshelfers at MHA - wish I had been there. He also took some photos that I am passing along: http://www.xmission.com/~hjmckell/Diane-bo.JPG http://www.xmission.com/~hjmckell/foodline.JPG http://www.xmission.com/~hjmckell/thegroup.JPG Have a look. Hugh - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:44:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Carter Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Convention MHA Report My wife Kathy and I attended the MHA Convention in Cedar City and enjoyed it. If any of you have an interest in Mormon history, I strongly recommend joining and at least attending the convention. There were 2 days (Friday & Saturday) of papers and a tour with luncheons and dinners followed by a short church service and continental breakfast on Sunday morning. And a book room of course. The papers focus mostly on the history of the region where the convention occurs. The topics seemed to include the settling of southern Utah, polygamy, and Mountain Meadows, but that might be what I ended up going to. The tour was a bus trip to the Mountain Meadows site. Highlights: 1. Session on writing biography. I don't plan on writing one, but I attended to better judge the biographies I read. The panelists were Mary Bradford, James Allen, Anna Backus, Roger Launius and one other whose name escapes me. Lots of good insights. 2. Bill and Will's session. Will talked about Mountain Meadows, based on his forthcoming book. Too bad the publishing process takes so long, it would be great to read it so we can finally judge for ourselves. Bill had an interesting approach based on his forthcoming book on the Utah War. He related what happened to Utah War participants after the war. Donna Smart used the same approach in her session involving the men involved in Parley Pratt's expedition to So. Utah. Papers like this make a good byproduct from the writing and research for books. 3. Mountain Meadows Tour. At least 4 busloads went to the site of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. On a hill above the site is a monument listing the names of the victims and there is also the monument where the remains were buried. You need to visit the site and reflect on what happened there. The tour was good, since in addition to visiting the site, the tour guide provides a lot of info as you travel. A USFS archaeologist was there to answer questions. A thunderstorm happened along and she answered questions while we sat in the bus. According to her, the monument in the meadow is just a burial site and there is no archaeological evidence that it was a campsite or a battle site. This makes sense, since the burial sight might be a central spot, where, the scattered bones had been gathered from a wide area by Major Carleton. She felt, based on other evidence, the campsite and attack location were to the south and then the slaughter took place to the north. 4. Cyber Breakfast. Kendall Gubler and his family invited members of the list to breakfast on Saturday morning in one of the campus buildings. A real breakfast, not just a continental breakfast! We were able to meet or reacquaint with other shelfers including, Gublers, Peels, MacKinnons, Edlund, Bagley, Eccles, Bradford, Parshall, Wotherspoon, Kimball, and Smith. I add my thanks to the Gublers for a fine breakfast. 5. The 3 polygamists. Although not really history, they did have a session in which 3 current polygamist wives spoke. Their purpose was to dispel the stereotypes that others might have regarding modern or fundamentalist polygamy. They wrote a recently published book "Voices in Harmony" and were probably more articulate than most. But they seemed quite normal and had the same basic values as the rest of us, they just practice the principle as they see it outside of the church. It would have been better if one of the husbands would have spoken. 6. Sunday morning service. The local stake president (and MHA member) presided over a short service that featured hymns by southern Utahans and readings from diaries. It was held in the Cedar City "Rock" church. It proved that a good church service can be short! 7. Book room. Benchmark, Utah State, Univ. of Illinois, Signature, Lynn Pulsipher, Dialogue, BYU, Kofford and a few others were represented. I came home with a box of new books. I also got a number of signatures in books I bought and books I took to the convention for that purpose. I got all 3 signatures for Studies in Mormon History by Allen, et al. I had taken a few by Davis Bitton and Brigham Madsen but they were not at the convention. Is their health ok? It was a great convention and I recommend MHA to everyone. We made a vacation out of it, going from California and visiting our kids in Arizona before the convention. One side trip was to a Mormon Battalion grave site on the Mexican Border near Bisbee, Arizona. What a lonely spot to die. We also stopped in Tucson to see the Mormon Battalion monument that was recently placed in the El Presidio Park. It was a life size statue of Jefferson Hunt, Christopher Layton and a Tucson resident, accompanied by interpretive plaques. Very impressive. The next MHA convention will be in Tucson in May of 2002. Bob Carter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:44:43 -0700 From: "Phil" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Convention A great report Bob and I am glad I didn't attempt one after reading yours! I enjoyed meeting and talking with many of you on the list and would encourage anyone interested in Mormon history to join the MHA and plan on attending the meeting in Tucson. Phil - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Carter" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Convention > MHA Report > My wife Kathy and I attended the MHA Convention in > Cedar City and enjoyed it. If any of you have an > interest in Mormon history, I strongly recommend > joining and at least attending the convention. There > were 2 days (Friday & Saturday) of papers and a tour > with luncheons and dinners followed by a short church > service and continental breakfast on Sunday morning. > And a book room of course. > > The papers focus mostly on the history of the region > where the convention occurs. The topics seemed to > include the settling of southern Utah, polygamy, and > Mountain Meadows, but that might be what I ended up > going to. The tour was a bus trip to the Mountain > Meadows site. > > Highlights: > 1. Session on writing biography. I don't plan on > writing one, but I attended to better judge the > biographies I read. The panelists were Mary Bradford, > James Allen, Anna Backus, Roger Launius and one other > whose name escapes me. Lots of good insights. > > 2. Bill and Will's session. Will talked about Mountain > Meadows, based on his forthcoming book. Too bad the > publishing process takes so long, it would be great to > read it so we can finally judge for ourselves. Bill > had an interesting approach based on his forthcoming > book on the Utah War. He related what happened to Utah > War participants after the war. Donna Smart used the > same approach in her session involving the men > involved in Parley Pratt's expedition to So. Utah. > Papers like this make a good byproduct from the > writing and research for books. > > 3. Mountain Meadows Tour. At least 4 busloads went to > the site of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. On a hill > above the site is a monument listing the names of the > victims and there is also the monument where the > remains were buried. You need to visit the site and > reflect on what happened there. The tour was good, > since in addition to visiting the site, the tour guide > provides a lot of info as you travel. A USFS > archaeologist was there to answer questions. A > thunderstorm happened along and she answered questions > while we sat in the bus. According to her, the > monument in the meadow is just a burial site and there > is no archaeological evidence that it was a campsite > or a battle site. This makes sense, since the burial > sight might be a central spot, where, the scattered > bones had been gathered from a wide area by Major > Carleton. She felt, based on other evidence, the > campsite and attack location were to the south and > then the slaughter took place to the north. > > 4. Cyber Breakfast. Kendall Gubler and his family > invited members of the list to breakfast on Saturday > morning in one of the campus buildings. A real > breakfast, not just a continental breakfast! We were > able to meet or reacquaint with other shelfers > including, Gublers, Peels, MacKinnons, Edlund, Bagley, > Eccles, Bradford, Parshall, Wotherspoon, Kimball, and > Smith. I add my thanks to the Gublers for a fine > breakfast. > > 5. The 3 polygamists. Although not really history, > they did have a session in which 3 current polygamist > wives spoke. Their purpose was to dispel the > stereotypes that others might have regarding modern or > fundamentalist polygamy. They wrote a recently > published book "Voices in Harmony" and were probably > more articulate than most. But they seemed quite > normal and had the same basic values as the rest of > us, they just practice the principle as they see it > outside of the church. It would have been better if > one of the husbands would have spoken. > > 6. Sunday morning service. The local stake president > (and MHA member) presided over a short service that > featured hymns by southern Utahans and readings from > diaries. It was held in the Cedar City "Rock" church. > It proved that a good church service can be short! > > 7. Book room. Benchmark, Utah State, Univ. of > Illinois, Signature, Lynn Pulsipher, Dialogue, BYU, > Kofford and a few others were represented. I came home > with a box of new books. I also got a number of > signatures in books I bought and books I took to the > convention for that purpose. I got all 3 signatures > for Studies in Mormon History by Allen, et al. I had > taken a few by Davis Bitton and Brigham Madsen but > they were not at the convention. Is their health ok? > > It was a great convention and I recommend MHA to > everyone. We made a vacation out of it, going from > California and visiting our kids in Arizona before the > convention. One side trip was to a Mormon Battalion > grave site on the Mexican Border near Bisbee, Arizona. > What a lonely spot to die. We also stopped in Tucson > to see the Mormon Battalion monument that was recently > placed in the El Presidio Park. It was a life size > statue of Jefferson Hunt, Christopher Layton and a > Tucson resident, accompanied by interpretive plaques. > Very impressive. > > The next MHA convention will be in Tucson in May of > 2002. > > Bob Carter > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:40:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "EDLUND,MARK JAMES" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Convention Let me echo all the previous comments regarding the MHA. The sessions were great, the people were friendly, and Kendall and his wife are most excellent breakfast hosts. Two other comments, one short, one long: Benchmarks remainder table still has some great books, and one recent addition that caught my eye: Differing Visions for $5.00. W. Bagleys talk re the MMM was one of the most discussed talks. Will is usually fairly animated in his talks, but was especially so in this Jeremiad. Essentially he said that BY ordered the massacre. What struck me is the little evidence he presented for this, and what I felt were methodological flaws in his viewing of the evidence. As far as the evidence, he mainly talked about the PPP murder, and read a letter from Pratts wife asking for vengeance, that is, since Pratt's wife asked for vengeance, BY complied, and ordered the massacre of the Fancher train. I was also struck that Will entirely discounts the testimony of the Mormon participants due to their need to cover-up and lie about the affair, and yet he accepted uncritically Paiute oral legends. It seems to me that the Paiutes, if they were involved, would have just as much motivation to misrepresent their role in the affair. At another point he quoted a reminiscent account of an individual that was only three at the time of the massacre. He also did not address what I feel are some key issues with his proposed theory. For example, if BY had ordered the massacre, why did the folks in Cedar send Haslam to SLC to ascertain Young's will? I asked him about this after, and his response was that some of the folks in Cedar City were unconvinced, and therefore Haslam was sent to SLC to help convince the undecided. My next question to Will was, why had BY changed his mind on the matter? His response was that Van Vliets report changed the picture. What I did not have time to ask Will was, if it was the meeting with Van Vliet on the 8th that changed Young's mind, why did he not send someone immediately to Cedar? Surely he knew time was critical. As it was, Haslam arrived on the morning of the 10th, and 4 hours later was sent back to Cedar City. In fairness to Will, he did not have a lot of time to present his full case, so I await his book. I know I have always been impressed with his work in the past. However, it strikes me that his account is certainly not the most parsimonious explanation of the facts, at least as far as I understand it now. I realize my musings on Will's talk is somewhat off topic, but thought folks might be interested, and I assume the janitors will be tolerant with my lack of discretion. I have been impressed with the decorum on this list; I am sure that this topic on the old Bookshelf would have started some terrific squabbles. Thank you all for the civility and restraint you show on this list, Mark Edlund - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:10:08 -0600 From: John Hatch Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Convention Mark, You raise some excellent points about Will's way of thinking towards MMM. Some I have brought up with Will and he has answered them expertly. Others, I remain less convinced. However, in regards to his book, he has passed along several different parts of this new one to me and everything I have read I am extremely impressed with. I think his book will show more restraint than he apparently did at MHA. In fact, he mentioned a few things to me that he is convinced of, but couldn't document well enough and therefore removed them from his book. I can't wait for the book. John "EDLUND,MARK JAMES" wrote: > Let me echo all the previous comments regarding the MHA. The sessions > were great, the people were friendly, and Kendall and his wife are most > excellent breakfast hosts. > > Two other comments, one short, one long: > > Benchmarks remainder table still has some great books, and one recent > addition that caught my eye: Differing Visions for $5.00. > > W. Bagleys talk re the MMM was one of the most discussed talks. Will is > usually fairly animated in his talks, but was especially so in this > Jeremiad. Essentially he said that BY ordered the massacre. What struck > me is the little evidence he presented for this, and what I felt were > methodological flaws in his viewing of the evidence. As far as the > evidence, he mainly talked about the PPP murder, and read a letter from > Pratts wife asking for vengeance, that is, since Pratt's wife asked for > vengeance, BY complied, and ordered the massacre of the Fancher train. I > was also struck that Will entirely discounts the testimony of the Mormon > participants due to their need to cover-up and lie about the affair, and > yet he accepted uncritically Paiute oral legends. It seems to me that the > Paiutes, if they were involved, would have just as much motivation to > misrepresent their role in the affair. At another point he quoted a > reminiscent account of an individual that was only three at the time of > the massacre. > > He also did not address what I feel are some key issues with his proposed > theory. For example, if BY had ordered the massacre, why did the folks in > Cedar send Haslam to SLC to ascertain Young's will? I asked him about > this > after, and his response was that some of the folks in Cedar City were > unconvinced, and therefore Haslam was sent to SLC to help convince the > undecided. My next question to Will was, why had BY changed his mind on > the matter? His response was that Van Vliets report changed the picture. > What I did not have time to ask Will was, if it was the meeting with Van > Vliet on the 8th that changed Young's mind, why did he not send someone > immediately to Cedar? Surely he knew time was critical. As it was, > Haslam arrived on the morning of the 10th, and 4 hours later was sent back > to Cedar City. > > In fairness to Will, he did not have a lot of time to present his full > case, so I await his book. I know I have always been impressed with his > work in the past. However, it strikes me that his account is certainly > not the most parsimonious explanation of the facts, at least as far as I > understand it now. > > I realize my musings on Will's talk is somewhat off topic, but thought > folks might be interested, and I assume the janitors will be tolerant with > my lack of discretion. I have been impressed with the decorum on this > list; I am sure that this topic on the old Bookshelf would have started > some terrific squabbles. > > Thank you all for the civility and restraint you show on this list, > > Mark Edlund > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:30:28 -0400 From: Cahoon_Doug@emc.com Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Convention That would be Dennis Lythgoe who wrote the Lee bio, Let 'em hollar... It was nice meeting Bob while he waited to get Mauss to sign a book. I am sorry I didn't make it to the breakfast - sounds like a highlight. - --Doug > -----Original Message----- > Highlights: > 1. Session on writing biography. I don't plan on > writing one, but I attended to better judge the > biographies I read. The panelists were Mary Bradford, > James Allen, Anna Backus, Roger Launius and one other > whose name escapes me. Lots of good insights. > > - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:57:28 -0700 From: "Phil" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Index This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C0E509.7D30F240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just acquired a 1965 BYU printing of the six volumes of Roberts, "A = Comprehensive History of the Church". I need an index of this BYU = printing. Does anyone have one available or one that would closely = match that binding? 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I just acquired a 1965 BYU printing of the six = volumes of=20 Roberts, "A Comprehensive History of the Church".  I need an index = of this=20 BYU printing.  Does anyone have one available or one that would = closely=20 match that binding?
 
Phil
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C0E509.7D30F240-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 10:05:40 EDT From: BOOKSTRR@aol.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] MHA Convention - --part1_25.15d7f907.28411234_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I skipped the Will and Bill show and went to an interesting presentation by Dr. Mark Scherer (SP) who is the Historian for the Community of Christ. He outlined the history of the name change. After his remarks, Jan Shipps discussed the material, especially the changes of both LDS Churches, away from the LDS notation. (One in its official name and one in its preference of reference) It was a very interesting session. As in most sessions, the presenters were rushed. Russ - --part1_25.15d7f907.28411234_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit    I skipped the Will and Bill show and went to an interesting presentation
by Dr. Mark Scherer (SP) who is the Historian for the Community of Christ.  
He outlined the history of the name change.  After his remarks, Jan Shipps
discussed the material, especially the changes of both LDS Churches, away
from the LDS notation. (One in its official name and one in its preference of
reference)  It was a very interesting session.  As in most sessions, the
presenters were rushed.

Russ - --part1_25.15d7f907.28411234_boundary-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:25:39 -0700 From: Keith Irwin Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Fruits from California I spent the better part of this weekend chasing after a copy of Nelson Slater's FRUITS OF MORMONISM. This little gem should need no introduction. Suffice it to say that it is the first copyrighted book in California, first published in Coloma, and was likely printed on a press that had at least parts of Zamorano's original press. And it it truly fits the "rare" category. A book scout found this in original binding and sold it to a Bay Area dealer for $400. I heard about it from a friend of the book scout. The dealer immediately turned it around and sold it to another California dealer for $3500. He sold it the next day to another dealer for $5,000.....who, I am sad to report....has already sold it to a collector, at a substantial mark-up, I presume. I consoled myself by finding a decent copy of Horace Greeley's OVERLAND JOURNEY FROM NEW YORK TO SAN FRANCISCO. Alas.... Keith - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ End of lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #925 ***********************************