From: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-bookshelf-digest) To: lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #953 Reply-To: lds-bookshelf Sender: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-bookshelf-digest Tuesday, January 21 2003 Volume 01 : Number 953 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:05:08 -0500 From: "Hugh Stocks" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Survey Results - Biography Thanks, Keith. Glad to see we got a decent response. On first review, I guess I'm surprised that Mormon Enigma scored so low. Seemed to me to be a stronger contender than that. OTOH, I can't really argue against any in the top 10 (aside from a cavil about including raw materials like a set of journals amongst the biographies, and another cavil about treating JtheC as a biography, when it seems to me to be more accurately described as "doctrinal" or "devotional". Chacun a son gout, I guess. On 20 Jan 2003 at 20:23, Keith Irwin stepped forward and proclaimed: > > Friends: > > I printed this out in html to maintain the columns. Hopefully your > e-mail readers will be able to make this out. > > I thought I=99d post each section of the survey separately over the next > couple of days in order to keep any discussion focused. > > There are two columns. The first is =9Cpoints.=9DThis is the sum of the > ratings given each book. 3 points were given to the first book each > respondent listed, 2 points to the second, and 1 point for the third. > The second column is a tally of how many times the book was listed, > regardless of position. There were 29 Bookshelfers who responded. > > The biography section had the most agreement with the BYU studies > survey. 14 of their top twenty were in our top 22. The most notable > change in the rankings is the much higher =9Cimportance=9D we gave to > Brodie=99s book. > > Any surprises? Anyone want to defend their choice? Did we miss > anything? > > > Title - Author > > Points > > Count > > > Biography > > > > > > > Biographical Sketches of JS - Smith > > 38 > > 15 > > > No Man Knows My History - Brodie > > 30 > > 12 > > > Brigham Young, American Moses - Arrington > > 14 > > 8 > > > Autobiography of Parley P. Pratt - Pratt > > 14 > > 8 > > > Wilford Woodruff Journals - Kenney > > 11 > > 6 > > > Jesus The Christ - Talmage > > 11 > > 5 > > > Joseph Smith First Mormon - Hill > > 8 > > 3 > > > Things in Heaven & Earth - Alexander > > 6 > > 3 > > > Wilford Woodruff - Cowley > > 5 > > 2 > > > Life of Heber C. Kimball - Whitney > > 4 > > 2 > > > JS & the Beginning of Mormonism - Bushman > > 4 > > 3 > > > Mormon Enigma - Newell > > 4 > > 3 > > > On the Mormon Frontier-Hosea Stout - Brooks > > 3 > > 1 > > > Hugh B. Brown, His Life & Thought - Campbell > > 2 > > 1 > > > The Historical Record - Jensen > > 2 > > 1 > > > Joseph Smith, An American Prophet - Evans > > 2 > > 1 > > > Adventures of a Church Historian - Arrington > > 2 > > 1 > > > Elder Statesman - Quinn > > 2 > > 2 > > > Life of Spencer W. Kimball - Kimball > > 2 > > 2 > > > John Doyle Lee - Brooks > > 2 > > 1 > > > LDS Biographical Encyclopedia - Jensen > > 2 > > 2 > > > In The World - Diaries of Reed Smoot - Smith > > 2 > > 1 > > > From Heart to Heart - Nelson > > 1 > > 1 > > > Wife No. 19 - Young > > 1 > > 1 > > > My Life's Review - Johnson > > 1 > > 1 > > > Sidney Rigdon, A Portrait of Religious Excess - VanW > > 1 > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > - -- Hugh Stocks hstocks@fuse.net - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:48:23 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Cahoon Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Selected Collections from the Archives of the Church... For those of us that are waiting to find it on Benchmark's bargain table... Anyone know what SLC area libraries currently have this set? - --Doug - --- "Snow, Donald R." wrote: > I bought a copy of the new 74-DVD set from the > Church Archives, but haven't > had time to even boot it up yet. It has a copy of > my g-grandfather's > journal in it and I would probably have been willing > to pay a lot just for > his journal BTW, if any of you intend to buy the > set, subscribe to BYU > Studies first, since when I bought my copy I learned > that if you are a > subscriber you get a healthy discount ($100, iirc). > The closest I have > gotten to looking at the set is to OCR the printed > introduction and table > of contents for someone. > > Don Snow __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:39:06 -0700 From: Ken Sanders Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Rare Utah.Mormon Book Collection Stolen Dear LDS Bookshelfers, I received a phone call from a Salt Lake City Police detective this morning to report the theft from an elderly gentleman here in the city of a rare book collection worth approximately $200,000. It mainly consisted of books on Utah and the Mormons. I have no other details at this time, but wanted to alert everyone as quickly as possible, especially Weller's and Benchmark. Ken Sanders in his role as security chair for ABAA - -- Ken Sanders Ken Sanders Rare Books, ABAA 268 South 200 East Salt Lake City UT 84111 (801) 521-3819 Fax: (801) 521-2606 http://www.kensandersbooks.com ken@dreamgarden.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:55:16 -0600 From: "Edlund, Mark J" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Rare Utah.Mormon Book Collection Stolen Ken, Thanks for letting us know about this. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Ken Sanders [mailto:ken@dreamgarden.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:39 AM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Rare Utah.Mormon Book Collection Stolen Dear LDS Bookshelfers, I received a phone call from a Salt Lake City Police detective this morning to report the theft from an elderly gentleman here in the city of a rare book collection worth approximately $200,000. It mainly consisted of books on Utah and the Mormons. I have no other details at this time, but wanted to alert everyone as quickly as possible, especially Weller's and Benchmark. Ken Sanders in his role as security chair for ABAA - -- Ken Sanders Ken Sanders Rare Books, ABAA 268 South 200 East Salt Lake City UT 84111 (801) 521-3819 Fax: (801) 521-2606 http://www.kensandersbooks.com ken@dreamgarden.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:01:47 -0700 From: Ken Sanders Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Rare Utah.Mormon Book Collection Stolen UPDATE I have now met with the police detective and the owner of the books. The owner of the books is a Jim Wardle (no not the late barber) and he claims to have a book collection of over 10,000 books stored in two garages. One of the garages has been broken into and he claims 1,000-1500 books were taken from it. The subject matter is largely Utah, the Mormons and the West. The police will be interviewing area bookshops for any possible leads. ken Sanders > > Dear LDS Bookshelfers, > > > I received a phone call from a Salt Lake City Police detective this > morning to report the theft from an elderly gentleman here in the city > of a rare book collection worth approximately $200,000. It mainly > consisted of books on Utah and the Mormons. > > I have no other details at this time, but wanted to alert everyone as > quickly as possible, especially Weller's and Benchmark. > > Ken Sanders in his role as security chair for ABAA > > > > - -- Ken Sanders Ken Sanders Rare Books, ABAA 268 South 200 East Salt Lake City UT 84111 (801) 521-3819 Fax: (801) 521-2606 http://www.kensandersbooks.com ken@dreamgarden.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:04:51 -0700 From: "Curt Bench" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Selected Collections from the Archives of the Church... We called BYU Studies and asked about the purported $100 discount (see original message below) on the Selected Collections . . . . We were told that they are offering a $50 discount to subscribers, but are charging $50 for shipping, which means the overall cost is still $1299. Perhaps one could pick up the set at their office and not pay for shipping, but we don't know that. We are selling the sets for $1299 and charging $15 for shipping to those needing them mailed. Curt Bench Benchmark Books - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Snow, Donald R." To: Cc: ; Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Selected Collections from the Archives of the Church... > I bought a copy of the new 74-DVD set from the Church Archives, but haven't > had time to even boot it up yet. It has a copy of my g-grandfather's > journal in it and I would probably have been willing to pay a lot just for > his journal BTW, if any of you intend to buy the set, subscribe to BYU > Studies first, since when I bought my copy I learned that if you are a > subscriber you get a healthy discount ($100, iirc). The closest I have > gotten to looking at the set is to OCR the printed introduction and table > of contents for someone. > > Don Snow > > At 02:40 PM 1/18/2003, Brian Irwin wrote: > >Bookshelfers, > > > >Most of you do not know me, but I have been a long-time lurker to this > >email list. Keith's survey has served to pull me out of lurkdom. > >Hopefully, I will participate a little more in the future! > > > >Now that I have finally submitted my survey, I would like to find out if > >any you have plunked down your $1299 for your personal copy of Selected > >Collections from the Archives of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day > >Saints. > > > >I think that this 74 DVD collection may well deserve the Most Important > >title, but I figured that if this survey is to compare results with the > >BYU Studies survey, it really wouldn't be fair, since it hadn't been > >officially announced when the original survey was distributed. > > > >If any of you have purchased the set, how user friendly is it? Is it easy > >to navigate? Was it distributed in a platform-neutral format? (In other > >words, did they use a Windows-only software program to navigate the > >images?) Is there any reason to worry that this might be a "limited > >edition" publication? > > > > > >Brian Irwin > >Currently "between jobs" Mac OS X user who hasn't YET pulled enough cash > >together to purchase his own set of Selected Collections to achieve Mormon > >Historical Nirvana. > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------- > >- LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > >- To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > >- "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > >- For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > Dr. Donald R. Snow, Dept of Mathematics, Brigham Young University, Provo, > Utah 84602 (office phone) (801) 422-2366, (home phone) (801) 225-7123, > snowd@math.byu.edu, drs31@juno.com -- temporarily on a Family History > Mission at St. George Regional Family History Center, St. George, Utah > (home phone in St. George ) (435) 673-1932 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:07:32 -0800 From: "Keith Irwin" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Survey Results - Doctrine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2C191.2278DC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A close tie here. Journal of Discourses is clearly held in higher importance by our group than the BYU studies sample. TPJS was their overwhelming choice. Any puzzlements here? Vogel's "Early Mormon Documents" got one mention here but several mentions elsewhere. = Messages of the First Presidency also received mentions in several categories. But = MD and JD were the clear choices. Voice of Warning went through a zillion printings. I wonder what non-canonical book has had the most reprints. =20 Doctrine =20 =20 Mormon Doctrine - McConkie 34 16 Journal of Discourses 26 vols 30 13 Voice of Warning - Pratt 14 6 Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith 13 5 Articles of Faith - Talmage 12 8 Jesus The Christ - Talmage 9 5 Encyclopedia of Mormonism 7 4 Evening & Morning Star 6 2 Words of Joseph Smith - Ehat & Cook 6 2 Messages of the First Presidency 6 vols 4 3 Personal Writings of Joseph Smith -Jessee 3 1 A Series of Pamphlets - Orson Pratt 3 2 8 Tracts 1856-57 - Orson Pratt 3 1 Gospel Doctrine - Jos. F. Smith 3 1 Early Mormon Documents - Vogel 3 1 Seventies Course in Theology - Roberts 3 2 Key to the Science of Theology - Pratt 2 1 Doctrines of Salvation - Smith 2 1 Theological Foundations of Mormon Rel - McMurrin 2 1 Classics in Mormon Thought series 2 1 Doctrinal New Testament Commentary - McConkie 2 1 The Seer - Pratt 2 1 Defense of the Faith & the Saints - Roberts 1 1 A Marvelous Work & A Wonder - Richards 1 1 Reed Smoot Hearings 1 1 Sperry Symposium Series 1 1 Miracle of Forgiveness - Kimball 1 1 Conference Reports (incl JD, Coll Disc, etc.) 1 1 Studies of the Book of Mormon - Roberts 1 1 Dialogue, A Journal of Mormon Thought 1 1 Synopsis of Holy Scriptures - Winchester 1 1 =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2C191.2278DC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A close tie here.  Journal of Discourses is clearly held in = higher importance by our group than the BYU studies sample.  TPJS was = their overwhelming choice.   Any puzzlements here?  = Vogel’s “Early Mormon Documents” got one mention here but several mentions elsewhere.  Messages of the First Presidency also received mentions = in several categories.  But MD and JD were the clear choices.  = Voice of Warning went through a zillion printings.  I wonder what = non-canonical book has had the most reprints.

 

Doctrine

 

 

Mormon Doctrine - McConkie

34

16

Journal of Discourses 26 vols

30

13

Voice of Warning - Pratt

14

6

Teachings of the Prophet Joseph = Smith

13

5

Articles of Faith - Talmage

12

8

Jesus The Christ - Talmage

9

5

Encyclopedia of Mormonism

7

4

Evening & Morning Star

6

2

Words of Joseph Smith - Ehat & = Cook

6

2

Messages of the First Presidency 6 = vols

4

3

Personal Writings of Joseph Smith = - -Jessee

3

1

A Series of Pamphlets - Orson = Pratt

3

2

8 Tracts 1856-57 - Orson Pratt

3

1

Gospel Doctrine - Jos. F. = Smith

3

1

Early Mormon Documents - Vogel

3

1

Seventies Course in Theology - = Roberts

3

2

Key to the Science of Theology - = Pratt

2

1

Doctrines of Salvation - Smith

2

1

Theological Foundations of Mormon Rel - = McMurrin

2

1

Classics in Mormon Thought series

2

1

Doctrinal New Testament Commentary - = McConkie

2

1

The Seer - Pratt

2

1

Defense of the Faith & the Saints - = Roberts

1

1

A Marvelous Work & A Wonder - = Richards

1

1

Reed Smoot Hearings

1

1

Sperry Symposium Series

1

1

Miracle of Forgiveness - Kimball

1

1

Conference Reports (incl JD, Coll Disc, = etc.)

1

1

Studies of the Book of Mormon - = Roberts

1

1

Dialogue, A Journal of Mormon = Thought

1

1

Synopsis of Holy Scriptures - Winchester

=

1

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