From: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-bookshelf-digest) To: lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #957 Reply-To: lds-bookshelf Sender: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-bookshelf-digest Friday, January 31 2003 Volume 01 : Number 957 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:38:51 EST From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books In a message dated 1/28/03 1:12:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, irwinkw@earthlink.net writes: << I've often thought that pre-correlation lesson manuals would be an interesting collecting niche. While some, like the Seventies Course in Theology, are a bit pricey, many with excellent content from authors like Sperry, Talmage, Widtsoe, etc., can be had for a few bucks. Keith >> An excellent idea! Book collecting, at its most admirable, depends upon original topic selection, enterprising book searching, and less money than exertion and long suffering. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:05:51 -0700 From: "ROY SCHMIDT" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books I think Christ's Ideals for Living is one of the most underrated books in Mormondom. It has been years since I read it, but recall that it had a deep impression on me. If my memory serves me well, Obert Tanner died an unbeliever. Was he a believer when he wrote the book? Roy Schmidt >>> irwinkw@earthlink.net 01/27/03 11:11PM >>> You're getting there. Christ's Ideals for Living was on my list. Easily my favorite lesson manual. I've often thought that pre-correlation lesson manuals would be an interesting collecting niche. While some, like the Seventies Course in Theology, are a bit pricey, many with excellent content from authors like Sperry, Talmage, Widtsoe, etc., can be had for a few bucks. Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Morgan Adair Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:02 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books Can I change my vote? I think I'd go with 1. Christ's Ideals for Living - Tanner 2. How Can I Help - Bennion 3. (tie) Four Essays on Love - Madsen Why the Church is as True as the Gospel - England MBA >>> irwinkw@earthlink.net 1/27/2003 9:56:55 PM >>> Here is the list. The first three items received 11 points. It was single digits from there. Inspirational The Miracle of Forgiveness - Kimball Believing Christ - Robinson Jesus The Christ - Talmage Standing for Something - Hinckley Approaching Zion - Nibley A Marvelous Work and a Wonder - Richards The Things that Matter Most - Bennion Voice of Warning - Pratt Hymnals - all editions The Abundance of the Heart - King Christ's Ideals for Living - Tanner Personal Writings of Joseph Smith - Jesse Teachings of the Prophet Jos. Smith The Best of Lowell Bennion - England On Wings of Faith - Babbel Visions of Zion - Morrison Letters to WW Phelps - Cowdery Eternal Man - Madsen He Did Deliver Me from Bondage - Harrison Why the Church is as True as the Gospel - England Elias - Whitney Journal of Heber C. Kimball Tolerance - Carmack Brother Brigham Challenges the Saints - Nibley How Can I Help - Bennion Teachings of Gordon B. Hinckley Four Essays on Love - Madsen On the Way to Immortality - Clark World War II Experiences - Dunn The Mortal Messiah - McConkie Encyclopedia of Mormonism All These Things Shall Give Thee Experience-Maxwell Poems, Vols I & II, Snow From Quaker to Latter-day Saint - Arrington Spencer W. Kimball - Kimball Neal Maxwell Quotebook Lighten Up! Okazaki The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley Making Peace - England Unlocking the Powers of Faith - Allred Adventures of a Church Historian - Arrington Gospel Ideals - McKay Divine Center - Covey The Articles of Faith - Talmage Collected Works of Neal Maxwell - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:10:59 -0700 From: "ROY SCHMIDT" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books When I joined the Church, J. Reuben Clark's _On the Way to Immortality and Eternal Life_ was the priesthood text, and one that I really enjoyed. Sperry's _Compendium on the Doctrine and Covenants_ was the first doctrinal book that I bought. I believe I paid about $3.95 new. It is still my favorite D&C book, but I don't recall that it was ever printed as a manual. Roy Schmidt >>> RickBook@aol.com 01/28/03 08:38AM >>> In a message dated 1/28/03 1:12:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, irwinkw@earthlink.net writes: << I've often thought that pre-correlation lesson manuals would be an interesting collecting niche. While some, like the Seventies Course in Theology, are a bit pricey, many with excellent content from authors like Sperry, Talmage, Widtsoe, etc., can be had for a few bucks. Keith >> An excellent idea! Book collecting, at its most admirable, depends upon original topic selection, enterprising book searching, and less money than exertion and long suffering. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:42:24 -0600 From: "Edlund, Mark J" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books Roy, I think the key term that needs to be defined is "believer". Believer in what? The first vision and gold plates? Christianity? God? Obert was the Sunday School teacher for my parent's SS class before I was born. They say the classes were the most intellectually stimulating classes they have ever had in the church, but not necessarily unorthodox or steeped in disbelief. While Obert may have been circumspect, I do not think he would have taught or written something that he did not believe at all at the time. My guess is that during this period his beliefs were evolving, perhaps rapidly, but he had not rejected the belief in that which he was writing about, and maybe he never did. Certainly he was always friendly to the church, at least at the local level, as I remember going over to firesides that were held in his yard. However, perhaps someone with some actual data on the subject has a different viewpoint. BTW, I think Tanner really merits a biography. In a lot of ways I think he was even a more interesting person than McMurrin. Unlike McMurrin, IIRC, Tanner grew up in wrenching poverty and had to overcome a lot of obstacles. Further, his adult life was marked by tragedy of the highest order, despite his highly successful career. Finally, IMO, the legacy he left was considerable. I agree with Roy, Christ's Ideals for Living is highly underrated; in terms of moral philosophy, which in the end religion is all about, I think the only other writings that compare are the best stuff of Lowell Bennion. On the secular front, the lectures he sponsors each year at various universities are some of the academic highlights at those institutions. I remember with no small amount of nostalgia attending the Tanner lectures when I was a student at the University of Michigan. Mark Edlund -----Original Message----- From: ROY SCHMIDT [mailto:roy_schmidt@byu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:06 AM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books I think Christ's Ideals for Living is one of the most underrated books in Mormondom. It has been years since I read it, but recall that it had a deep impression on me. If my memory serves me well, Obert Tanner died an unbeliever. Was he a believer when he wrote the book? Roy Schmidt >>> irwinkw@earthlink.net 01/27/03 11:11PM >>> You're getting there. Christ's Ideals for Living was on my list. Easily my favorite lesson manual. I've often thought that pre-correlation lesson manuals would be an interesting collecting niche. While some, like the Seventies Course in Theology, are a bit pricey, many with excellent content from authors like Sperry, Talmage, Widtsoe, etc., can be had for a few bucks. Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Morgan Adair Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:02 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books Can I change my vote? I think I'd go with 1. Christ's Ideals for Living - Tanner 2. How Can I Help - Bennion 3. (tie) Four Essays on Love - Madsen Why the Church is as True as the Gospel - England MBA >>> irwinkw@earthlink.net 1/27/2003 9:56:55 PM >>> Here is the list. The first three items received 11 points. It was single digits from there. Inspirational The Miracle of Forgiveness - Kimball Believing Christ - Robinson Jesus The Christ - Talmage Standing for Something - Hinckley Approaching Zion - Nibley A Marvelous Work and a Wonder - Richards The Things that Matter Most - Bennion Voice of Warning - Pratt Hymnals - all editions The Abundance of the Heart - King Christ's Ideals for Living - Tanner Personal Writings of Joseph Smith - Jesse Teachings of the Prophet Jos. Smith The Best of Lowell Bennion - England On Wings of Faith - Babbel Visions of Zion - Morrison Letters to WW Phelps - Cowdery Eternal Man - Madsen He Did Deliver Me from Bondage - Harrison Why the Church is as True as the Gospel - England Elias - Whitney Journal of Heber C. Kimball Tolerance - Carmack Brother Brigham Challenges the Saints - Nibley How Can I Help - Bennion Teachings of Gordon B. Hinckley Four Essays on Love - Madsen On the Way to Immortality - Clark World War II Experiences - Dunn The Mortal Messiah - McConkie Encyclopedia of Mormonism All These Things Shall Give Thee Experience-Maxwell Poems, Vols I & II, Snow From Quaker to Latter-day Saint - Arrington Spencer W. Kimball - Kimball Neal Maxwell Quotebook Lighten Up! Okazaki The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley Making Peace - England Unlocking the Powers of Faith - Allred Adventures of a Church Historian - Arrington Gospel Ideals - McKay Divine Center - Covey The Articles of Faith - Talmage Collected Works of Neal Maxwell - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:03:45 -0700 From: "ROY SCHMIDT" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books Mark, I suppose that I should have been more specific. My definition of a believer includes angels and gold plates, the first vision, a real Lehi and family, etc. My understanding is that by the time he died, he did not believe. That said, I feel that he was a wonderfully moral man, who was friendly to the Church and to the community. In fact, his family and the company that he founded are still doing wonderful things in the community. Recently, the Tanner Family Trust sponsored a performance of Mahler's 8th symphony that featured the Utah Symphony and 835 performers. The Tabernacle really "rocked" that night. Roy Schmidt >>> EdlundMarkJ@uams.edu 01/28/03 09:42AM >>> Roy, I think the key term that needs to be defined is "believer". Believer in what? The first vision and gold plates? Christianity? God? Obert was the Sunday School teacher for my parent's SS class before I was born. They say the classes were the most intellectually stimulating classes they have ever had in the church, but not necessarily unorthodox or steeped in disbelief. While Obert may have been circumspect, I do not think he would have taught or written something that he did not believe at all at the time. My guess is that during this period his beliefs were evolving, perhaps rapidly, but he had not rejected the belief in that which he was writing about, and maybe he never did. Certainly he was always friendly to the church, at least at the local level, as I remember going over to firesides that were held in his yard. However, perhaps someone with some actual data on the subject has a different viewpoint. BTW, I think Tanner really merits a biography. In a lot of ways I think he was even a more interesting person than McMurrin. Unlike McMurrin, IIRC, Tanner grew up in wrenching poverty and had to overcome a lot of obstacles. Further, his adult life was marked by tragedy of the highest order, despite his highly successful career. Finally, IMO, the legacy he left was considerable. I agree with Roy, Christ's Ideals for Living is highly underrated; in terms of moral philosophy, which in the end religion is all about, I think the only other writings that compare are the best stuff of Lowell Bennion. On the secular front, the lectures he sponsors each year at various universities are some of the academic highlights at those institutions. I remember with no small amount of nostalgia attending the Tanner lectures when I was a student at the University of Michigan. Mark Edlund -----Original Message----- From: ROY SCHMIDT [mailto:roy_schmidt@byu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:06 AM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books I think Christ's Ideals for Living is one of the most underrated books in Mormondom. It has been years since I read it, but recall that it had a deep impression on me. If my memory serves me well, Obert Tanner died an unbeliever. Was he a believer when he wrote the book? Roy Schmidt >>> irwinkw@earthlink.net 01/27/03 11:11PM >>> You're getting there. Christ's Ideals for Living was on my list. Easily my favorite lesson manual. I've often thought that pre-correlation lesson manuals would be an interesting collecting niche. While some, like the Seventies Course in Theology, are a bit pricey, many with excellent content from authors like Sperry, Talmage, Widtsoe, etc., can be had for a few bucks. Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Morgan Adair Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:02 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books Can I change my vote? I think I'd go with 1. Christ's Ideals for Living - Tanner 2. How Can I Help - Bennion 3. (tie) Four Essays on Love - Madsen Why the Church is as True as the Gospel - England MBA >>> irwinkw@earthlink.net 1/27/2003 9:56:55 PM >>> Here is the list. The first three items received 11 points. It was single digits from there. Inspirational The Miracle of Forgiveness - Kimball Believing Christ - Robinson Jesus The Christ - Talmage Standing for Something - Hinckley Approaching Zion - Nibley A Marvelous Work and a Wonder - Richards The Things that Matter Most - Bennion Voice of Warning - Pratt Hymnals - all editions The Abundance of the Heart - King Christ's Ideals for Living - Tanner Personal Writings of Joseph Smith - Jesse Teachings of the Prophet Jos. Smith The Best of Lowell Bennion - England On Wings of Faith - Babbel Visions of Zion - Morrison Letters to WW Phelps - Cowdery Eternal Man - Madsen He Did Deliver Me from Bondage - Harrison Why the Church is as True as the Gospel - England Elias - Whitney Journal of Heber C. Kimball Tolerance - Carmack Brother Brigham Challenges the Saints - Nibley How Can I Help - Bennion Teachings of Gordon B. Hinckley Four Essays on Love - Madsen On the Way to Immortality - Clark World War II Experiences - Dunn The Mortal Messiah - McConkie Encyclopedia of Mormonism All These Things Shall Give Thee Experience-Maxwell Poems, Vols I & II, Snow From Quaker to Latter-day Saint - Arrington Spencer W. Kimball - Kimball Neal Maxwell Quotebook Lighten Up! Okazaki The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley Making Peace - England Unlocking the Powers of Faith - Allred Adventures of a Church Historian - Arrington Gospel Ideals - McKay Divine Center - Covey The Articles of Faith - Talmage Collected Works of Neal Maxwell - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:02:41 -0500 From: "Hugh Stocks" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books I strongly recommend a reading of Tanner's autobiography: _One Man's Journey In Search of Freedom,_ published by the Humanities Center at the University of Utah in 1994. He is very open about his faith (or lack thereof), and talks about his resistance to writing _Christ's Ideals for Living_ until he was personally asked to do it by Pres. McKay. When he said he didn't think he could write anything that would pass "the reading committee," he quotes Pres. McKay as saying "Then we'll get another committee." Interesting man, interesting book. He was well matched with his good buddies Sterling McMurrin and Brig Madsen. On 28 Jan 2003 at 12:03, ROY SCHMIDT stepped forward and proclaimed: > Mark, > > I suppose that I should have been more specific. My definition of a > believer includes angels and gold plates, the first vision, a real > Lehi and family, etc. My understanding is that by the time he died, he > did not believe. That said, I feel that he was a wonderfully moral > man, who was friendly to the Church and to the community. In fact, his > family and the company that he founded are still doing wonderful > things in the community. Recently, the Tanner Family Trust sponsored a > performance of Mahler's 8th symphony that featured the Utah Symphony > and 835 performers. The Tabernacle really "rocked" that night. > > Roy Schmidt > > >>> EdlundMarkJ@uams.edu 01/28/03 09:42AM >>> > Roy, I think the key term that needs to be defined is "believer". > Believer in what? The first vision and gold plates? Christianity? > God? Obert was the Sunday School teacher for my parent's SS class > before I was born. They say the classes were the most intellectually > stimulating classes they have ever had in the church, but not > necessarily unorthodox or steeped in disbelief. While Obert may have > been circumspect, I do not think he would have taught or written > something that he did not believe at all at the time. My guess is > that during this period his beliefs were evolving, perhaps rapidly, > but he had not rejected the belief in that which he was writing about, > and maybe he never did. Certainly he was always friendly to the > church, at least at the local level, as I remember going over to > firesides that were held in his yard. However, perhaps someone with > some actual data on the subject has a different viewpoint. > > BTW, I think Tanner really merits a biography. In a lot of ways I > think he was even a more interesting person than McMurrin. Unlike > McMurrin, IIRC, Tanner grew up in wrenching poverty and had to > overcome a lot of obstacles. Further, his adult life was marked by > tragedy of the highest order, despite his highly successful career. > Finally, IMO, the legacy he left was considerable. I agree with Roy, > Christ's Ideals for Living is highly underrated; in terms of moral > philosophy, which in the end religion is all about, I think the only > other writings that compare are the best stuff of Lowell Bennion. On > the secular front, the lectures he sponsors each year at various > universities are some of the academic highlights at those > institutions. I remember with no small amount of nostalgia attending > the Tanner lectures when I was a student at the University of > Michigan. > > Mark Edlund > > -----Original Message----- > From: ROY SCHMIDT [mailto:roy_schmidt@byu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:06 AM > To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books > > I think Christ's Ideals for Living is one of the most underrated > books > in Mormondom. It has been years since I read it, but recall that it > had a deep impression on me. If my memory serves me well, Obert Tanner > died an unbeliever. Was he a believer when he wrote the book? > > Roy Schmidt > > >>> irwinkw@earthlink.net 01/27/03 11:11PM >>> > You're getting there. Christ's Ideals for Living was on my list. > Easily my favorite lesson manual. > > I've often thought that pre-correlation lesson manuals would be an > interesting collecting niche. While some, like the Seventies Course > in Theology, are a bit pricey, many with excellent content from > authors like Sperry, Talmage, Widtsoe, etc., can be had for a few > bucks. > > Keith > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Morgan > Adair Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:02 PM To: > lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - > inspirational books > > Can I change my vote? I think I'd go with > > 1. Christ's Ideals for Living - Tanner > 2. How Can I Help - Bennion > 3. (tie) Four Essays on Love - Madsen > Why the Church is as True as the Gospel - England > > MBA > > >>> irwinkw@earthlink.net 1/27/2003 9:56:55 PM >>> > Here is the list. The first three items received 11 points. It was > single digits from there. > > Inspirational > The Miracle of Forgiveness - Kimball > Believing Christ - Robinson > Jesus The Christ - Talmage > Standing for Something - Hinckley > Approaching Zion - Nibley > A Marvelous Work and a Wonder - Richards > The Things that Matter Most - Bennion > Voice of Warning - Pratt > Hymnals - all editions > The Abundance of the Heart - King > Christ's Ideals for Living - Tanner > Personal Writings of Joseph Smith - Jesse > Teachings of the Prophet Jos. Smith > The Best of Lowell Bennion - England > On Wings of Faith - Babbel > Visions of Zion - Morrison > Letters to WW Phelps - Cowdery > Eternal Man - Madsen > He Did Deliver Me from Bondage - Harrison > Why the Church is as True as the Gospel - England > Elias - Whitney > Journal of Heber C. Kimball > Tolerance - Carmack > Brother Brigham Challenges the Saints - Nibley > How Can I Help - Bennion > Teachings of Gordon B. Hinckley > Four Essays on Love - Madsen > On the Way to Immortality - Clark > World War II Experiences - Dunn > The Mortal Messiah - McConkie > Encyclopedia of Mormonism > All These Things Shall Give Thee Experience-Maxwell > Poems, Vols I & II, Snow > From Quaker to Latter-day Saint - Arrington > Spencer W. Kimball - Kimball > Neal Maxwell Quotebook > Lighten Up! Okazaki > The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley > Making Peace - England > Unlocking the Powers of Faith - Allred > Adventures of a Church Historian - Arrington > Gospel Ideals - McKay > Divine Center - Covey > The Articles of Faith - Talmage > Collected Works of Neal Maxwell > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message > body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message > body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message > body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message > body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message > body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - -- Hugh Stocks hstocks@fuse.net - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:55:14 -0800 From: "Keith Irwin" Subject: RE: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books You're right, Hugh. But if anyone wants to recast their vote, why not = make the case in an e-mail to the shelf. What would you change and why? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of hstocks@fuse.net Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:57 AM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com; lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books You mean like a Congressman? You reserve the right to amend and add to = your remarks? Actually, I think it would be interesting to see how the rankings would change if we all got the right to change our votes after seeing the = results. I know I have a couple of votes I'd change. You don't have anything else to do, Keith. Right? Hugh >=20 > From: "Morgan Adair" > Date: 2003/01/28 Tue AM 01:01:40 EST > To: > Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books >=20 > Can I change my vote? I think I'd go with >=20 > 1. Christ's Ideals for Living - Tanner > 2. How Can I Help - Bennion > 3. (tie) Four Essays on Love - Madsen > Why the Church is as True as the Gospel - England >=20 > MBA >=20 > >>> irwinkw@earthlink.net 1/27/2003 9:56:55 PM >>> > Here is the list. The first three items received 11 points. It was > single > digits from there. =20 >=20 > Inspirational > The Miracle of Forgiveness - Kimball > Believing Christ - Robinson > Jesus The Christ - Talmage > Standing for Something - Hinckley > Approaching Zion - Nibley > A Marvelous Work and a Wonder - Richards > The Things that Matter Most - Bennion > Voice of Warning - Pratt > Hymnals - all editions > The Abundance of the Heart - King > Christ's Ideals for Living - Tanner > Personal Writings of Joseph Smith - Jesse > Teachings of the Prophet Jos. Smith > The Best of Lowell Bennion - England > On Wings of Faith - Babbel > Visions of Zion - Morrison > Letters to WW Phelps - Cowdery > Eternal Man - Madsen > He Did Deliver Me from Bondage - Harrison > Why the Church is as True as the Gospel - England > Elias - Whitney > Journal of Heber C. Kimball > Tolerance - Carmack > Brother Brigham Challenges the Saints - Nibley > How Can I Help - Bennion > Teachings of Gordon B. Hinckley > Four Essays on Love - Madsen > On the Way to Immortality - Clark > World War II Experiences - Dunn > The Mortal Messiah - McConkie > Encyclopedia of Mormonism > All These Things Shall Give Thee Experience-Maxwell > Poems, Vols I & II, Snow > From Quaker to Latter-day Saint - Arrington > Spencer W. Kimball - Kimball > Neal Maxwell Quotebook > Lighten Up! Okazaki > The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley > Making Peace - England > Unlocking the Powers of Faith - Allred > Adventures of a Church Historian - Arrington > Gospel Ideals - McKay > Divine Center - Covey > The Articles of Faith - Talmage > Collected Works of Neal Maxwell >=20 >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" >=20 - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:05:20 -0700 From: "Clark Goble" Subject: RE: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books Did you post the fiction list yet? I don't recall seeing it. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:10:40 -0800 From: "Keith Irwin" Subject: RE: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books Yes. I sent it on January 21st. If you can't find it, let me know and I'll e-mail you a copy. Giant Joshua was the clear winner. Not much agreement after that. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Clark Goble Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:05 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] survey - inspirational books Did you post the fiction list yet? I don't recall seeing it. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:27:52 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Cahoon Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Book Prices in Dallas I think I mentioned before that there is a large used book store in downtown (right across from the square) Denton - jsut north-west of Dallas. - --Doug - --- Steve Eccles wrote: > If anyone is interested, I went to the local LDS > Bookstore, Moon Book's (it used to be a Deseret Book > Store, but they sold out to Moon -- I believe he had > a store before Deseret Book came into town anyway), > and found some used books. I was very curious about > prices, so made the following comparisons: > > TITLE > DALLAS STORE > ABE > DESERET BOOK > AMAZON > > Mormon Docterine - 1st ed. > $875 - uncertain if it has dustjacket > $295 - $600 > None > None > > Selected Manifestations > $750 > $585 - $625 > None > None > > Fate of the Persecuters - 1st > $85 > $63 - $65 > None > $43 - $59 > > Bruce R. McConkie bio by Eborn > $9.95 > $15 - $29.95 > None > $27.97 - $29.97 > > Message of the J.S. Papyrus by Nibley > $295.00 > $100 - $190 > None > $195 - $200 > > > > I don't think I'll be using this source for rare > books very soon. I'm ready to conclude that he > really doesn't want to sell these books, but likes > showing them off. Some were in a glass topped coffee > table by occasional chairs he uses for a reading > area. > > He also had some leather bound titles that he won't > allow customers to examine, but Moon was in Utah, > and his staff had no idea how much he wanted for > them. > > However, if anyone wants a copy of the McConkie > biography, this is a good source. He had several > copies I believe still in plastic wrappers. > > I'm still looking for good stores in this area, so > if you have any ideas, I'd really welcome them. > > I understand a famous author has several warehouses > of books about 120 miles from here. A friend from > work went there and his biggest comment was that > they were unheated and it was very cold in them. I'm > off there in the next couple of weekends. > > --Steve > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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