From: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-bookshelf-digest) To: lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #958 Reply-To: lds-bookshelf Sender: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-bookshelf-digest Friday, February 7 2003 Volume 01 : Number 958 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:03:09 -0700 From: Brian Irwin Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] John Hatch's Brief Review of Church DVD's This post, forwarded from the Mormon-Library list without permission, answers some of the questions I raised a couple of weeks ago. I thought some of you might be interested. - -- Brian Irwin Message: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:17:14 -0700 From: "John Hatch" Subject: Brief Review of Church DVD's Here's a brief review of the Church archives DVD's. Be kind, I pumped it out pretty quickly. "Selected Collections from the Archives of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" Volume One, 38 DVD's $699 (Both volumes together are $1299, purchased separately they are $699 each) Edited and produced under the direction of Richard E. Turley, Jr. Selected Collections has been anticipated since Richard Turley announced at the May 2002 Mormon History Association meeting that Church archivists had been scanning in documents for eventual inclusion on a large collection of documents. In a conversation with Turley later, he noted that the collection would probably be 100 discs and would probably be DVD's rather than traditional CD-Rom. Why DVD instead of CD? The reason is simple: DVD's hold about 8 times that of traditional CD's. Volume One of this two volume collection is an outstanding and unprecedented collection of documents from the archives of the LDS church. Comprised of 38 DVD's, researchers get the following collections (I've abbreviated some of these items and haven't always included dates - for a more complete list, visit http://byustudies.byu.edu): DVD's 1-16 History of the Church from the Church Historians office 1839-circa 1882 DVD 17 Journal of the Church Historians office 1844-1879 DVD 18 General Church Minutes of the Historians office Church Architects office - William Weeks Nauvoo drawings and SL Temple drawings DVD 19: James Bleak, Annals of the Southern Utah Mission 1898-1907 Teachers Quorum Minutes 1834-1845 Kirtland High Council Minutes Pottowattamie High Priests Minutes Nauvoo Stake High Council Court Papers Winter Quarters records and correspondence Relief Society Minutes Revelation Collections DVD 20: Joseph Smith Collection 1827-1844 DVD 21-25: Brigham Young Letterpress Copybooks DVD 26: Joseph F. Smith Journal DVD 27-28: Joseph F. Smith Incoming Correspondence DVD 29-30: Joseph F. Smith Letterpress Copybooks DVD 31: Lorenzo Snow Journal and Letterbook Erastus Snow Journal Willard Richards Papers DVD 32-33: George A. Smith Papers DVD 34-35: Franklin D. Richards Journal DVD 36: Charles C. Rich Collection DVD 37: Amasa Lyman Collection DVD 38: J. Golden Kimball Journal The documents are in jpeg format and can be browsed through a very user friendly table of contents. The table of contents is laid out in HTML format, so it's easy to jump around using the various links and the "back" button of your Internet Explorer browser. The documents themselves are high resolution scans and are as easy to read as they ever will be. The publishers are also to be highly commended for not giving in to copyright paranoia: Any image can be saved onto a hard drive and even opened in a more advanced program like Adobe Photoshop. This allows users to play with brightness and contrast if needed to make things easier to read. As can be expected at any archives, a very limited number of pages occasionally have a black box over certain portions to preserve confidentiality. Conspiracy theorists will love this tidbit, but it is extremely rare. Further, there are no "silent omissions". If something is left out, it appears as a black box over text. Nothing is left out without the researcher knowing it. Because these are jpeg images of original documents, there is no way to search the text as if it were a typescript or text. Researchers will continue to go through the documents page by page, as they would at an archive. Some minor complaints: Each page has a vertical line of text that states something like: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Archives. While I can understand the desire and need to copyright each page, on occasion, this text (although light and in the background of the document) interferes with the text on the document page making certain words more difficult to read. I've used a total of 3 DVD-ROM drives to view these documents, all with slightly different results. On a laptop drive, two or three discs simply wouldn't read. I had to go to my desktop, which had no problem opening the disc. Yet another DVD-ROM had trouble running the autorun program. This is a very minor issue, as it's easy to go to the DVD contents in Windows Explorer and click on the table of contents. However, these various issues show the limitations of DVD-ROM technology, particularly as a variety of competing formats still exist in the marketplace - DVD, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RAM, DVD-ROM, etc. Another issue: What is available and what isn't available at the Church archives has been, and probably always will be, an issue of contention and debate. Although this collection contains some incredible items, plenty of items are also left out. I'm not talking about random items, either. Some of the collections skip over years. For example, J. Golden Kimball's diary covers the years 1883-1887, then 1895-1908. I know Kimball kept a journal between 1888-1894 - why the omission? It's easy to complain about what isn't in any book or collection, and I suppose this is no exception. I only hope the Church will continue to release future collections in this tremendous format. John - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:55:29 -0800 From: "Keith Irwin" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2CD61.4FA6F9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just returned from the auction of the collection of Dan Volkman. Dan = had the only complete collection of 1st edition Zamorano 80 items in a = private collection. Actually, there were two concurrent auctions, one of the Zamorano 80 items and another of maps and two journals=20 =20 You can view the catalogs at the Sloan website http://www.dsloan.com =20 =20 Some highlights: =20 One of the two journals was the unpublished holograph diary of Dr. = George Sanderson, otherwise known as "Dr. Death" of the Mormon Battalion march. Fortunately, only BYU and U of U libraries bid on it and Greg Thompson = of the U emerged the winner. $44K plus 15% premium. This is a great = southwest item but as it turns out, there is little or no mention of the Mormons. Instead it has great observations about the Indian and Mexican cultures = and very precise observations about the geography. Will Bagley and Greg = spent 5 hours going through it page by page. =20 =20 Bookshelfer Mark Edlund put Will and Greg on to this item which was = buried at the end of a catalog of maps. =20 7 of the 17 maps went without an opening bid. Those that did sell = usually had only one bid. =20 =20 The Zamorano auction was a different story. The number of bidders was = about three times the number at the map auction. . A few highlights: =20 The exquisite copy of Lansford Hastings "Emigrants Guide" went for = $135,000 after spirited bidding. The copy of Joaquin Murietta, sold for $75,000 opening bid. Stunning since there is only one other known copy. Most amazing to me was that a rather ordinary copy of Tyler's "Mormon = Battalion" sold for $1800. =20 I bid on a copy of Ina Coolbrith's "Songs from the Golden Gate" = inscribed to the artist Maynard Dixon and his wife. I was prepared to go well beyond = the high estimate but so was another bidder who took every item he bid on. = No chance for me. I also ran into a buzz saw on a Bret Harte item with a letter from him. It wasn't my day. =20 Greg, on the other hand, had a field day. In addition to the fine manuscript, the items he bid on had little action and he was able to add some fine California items to their collection. =20 =20 For those who haven't seen a Dorothy Sloan catalog, these may be the = finest catalogs available. I think they are collectible just by themselves. =20 =20 A few other choice morsels: =20 An exquisite set of Bancroft's Works in the premium leather binding went = for $4000 A first edition of Twain's "Celebrated Jumping Frog." in an appropriate green binding went for $20,000. Reglamento California, the first laws governing California went for the opening bid of $125,000. =20 Keith=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2CD61.4FA6F9E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just returned from the auction of the collection of Dan Volkman. =  Dan had the only complete collection of 1st edition Zamorano 80 items in a = private collection.  Actually, there were two concurrent auctions, one of = the Zamorano 80 items and another of maps and two journals

 

You can view the catalogs at the Sloan website http://www.dsloan.com

 

Some highlights:

 

One of the two journals was the unpublished holograph diary of  Dr. = George Sanderson, otherwise known as “Dr. Death” of the Mormon = Battalion march.  Fortunately, only BYU and U of U libraries bid on it and = Greg Thompson of the U emerged the winner.  $44K plus 15% premium.  = This is a great southwest item but as it turns out, there is little or no = mention of the Mormons.  Instead it has great observations about the Indian = and Mexican cultures and very precise observations about the = geography.  Will Bagley and Greg spent 5 hours going through it page by page.  =

 

Bookshelfer Mark Edlund put Will and Greg on to this item which was buried at the = end of a catalog of maps.

 

7 of the 17 maps went without an opening bid.  Those that did sell = usually had only one bid. 

 

The Zamorano auction was a different story.  The number of bidders was = about three times the number at the map auction.  .  A few = highlights:

 

The exquisite copy of Lansford Hastings “Emigrants Guide” went = for $135,000 after spirited bidding.  The copy of Joaquin Murietta, = sold for $75,000 opening bid.  Stunning since there is only one other known = copy.  Most amazing to me was that a rather ordinary copy of = Tyler’s “Mormon Battalion” sold for $1800.

 

I bid on a copy of Ina Coolbrith’s “Songs from the Golden = Gate” inscribed to the artist Maynard Dixon and his wife.  I was prepared = to go well beyond the high estimate but so was another bidder who took every = item he bid on.  No chance for me.  I also ran into a buzz saw on a = Bret Harte item with a letter from him.  It wasn’t my = day.

 

Greg, on the other hand, had a field day.  In addition to the fine = manuscript, the items he bid on had little action and he was able to add some fine = California items to their collection. 

 

For those who haven’t seen a Dorothy Sloan catalog, these may be the = finest catalogs available.  I think they are collectible just by themselves. 

 

A few other choice morsels:

 

An exquisite set of Bancroft’s Works in the premium leather binding = went for $4000

A first edition of Twain’s “Celebrated Jumping = Frog…” in an appropriate green binding went for $20,000.

Reglamento California, the first laws governing California went for = the opening bid of $125,000.

 

Keith

- ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2CD61.4FA6F9E0-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:33:52 -0600 From: "Edlund, Mark J" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CE16.ADDF9A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Keith, Thanks for the report on the auction. I was really glad to see that U of U got the Sanderson journal, and I feel good knowing that I played a role, albeit small, in bringing such a nice item into their collection. I was hoping that not many of the Utah/Mormon collectors would see it, and it sounds like that may have happened, as there were only two bidders. I know Greg somewhat from my visits to Special Collections at the U of U, and also because his U of U basketball seats (and those of Floyd O'Neil) are in the row behind my dad's seats, and so I see him whenever I am in town and there is a game. He is a nice guy and he has brought some really great stuff to the U., most noticeably the Stegner collection. Mark - -----Original Message----- From: Keith Irwin [mailto:irwinkw@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:55 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction I just returned from the auction of the collection of Dan Volkman. Dan had the only complete collection of 1st edition Zamorano 80 items in a private collection. Actually, there were two concurrent auctions, one of the Zamorano 80 items and another of maps and two journals You can view the catalogs at the Sloan website http://www.dsloan.com Some highlights: One of the two journals was the unpublished holograph diary of Dr. George Sanderson, otherwise known as "Dr. Death" of the Mormon Battalion march. Fortunately, only BYU and U of U libraries bid on it and Greg Thompson of the U emerged the winner. $44K plus 15% premium. This is a great southwest item but as it turns out, there is little or no mention of the Mormons. Instead it has great observations about the Indian and Mexican cultures and very precise observations about the geography. Will Bagley and Greg spent 5 hours going through it page by page. Bookshelfer Mark Edlund put Will and Greg on to this item which was buried at the end of a catalog of maps. 7 of the 17 maps went without an opening bid. Those that did sell usually had only one bid. The Zamorano auction was a different story. The number of bidders was about three times the number at the map auction. . A few highlights: The exquisite copy of Lansford Hastings "Emigrants Guide" went for $135,000 after spirited bidding. The copy of Joaquin Murietta, sold for $75,000 opening bid. Stunning since there is only one other known copy. Most amazing to me was that a rather ordinary copy of Tyler's "Mormon Battalion" sold for $1800. I bid on a copy of Ina Coolbrith's "Songs from the Golden Gate" inscribed to the artist Maynard Dixon and his wife. I was prepared to go well beyond the high estimate but so was another bidder who took every item he bid on. No chance for me. I also ran into a buzz saw on a Bret Harte item with a letter from him. It wasn't my day. Greg, on the other hand, had a field day. In addition to the fine manuscript, the items he bid on had little action and he was able to add some fine California items to their collection. For those who haven't seen a Dorothy Sloan catalog, these may be the finest catalogs available. I think they are collectible just by themselves. A few other choice morsels: An exquisite set of Bancroft's Works in the premium leather binding went for $4000 A first edition of Twain's "Celebrated Jumping Frog..." in an appropriate green binding went for $20,000. Reglamento California, the first laws governing California went for the opening bid of $125,000. Keith - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CE16.ADDF9A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

K= eith,

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T= hanks for the report on the auction.  = I was really glad to see that U of U got the Sanderson journal, and I feel = good knowing that I played a role, albeit small, in bringing such a nice = item into their collection.  I was = hoping that not many of the Utah/Mormon collectors would see it, and it sounds = like that may have happened, as there were only two bidders. I know Greg = somewhat from my visits to Special Collections at the U of U, and also because = his U of U basketball seats (and those of Floyd O’Neil) are in the row = behind my dad’s seats, and so I see him whenever I am in town and there is a game.  He is a nice guy and he has = brought some really great stuff to the U., most noticeably the Stegner = collection.

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M= ark

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-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Irwin [mailto:irwinkw@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, = February 05, 2003 11:55 PM
To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] = Zamorano auction

 

I just = returned from the auction of the collection of Dan Volkman.  Dan had the only = complete collection of 1st edition Zamorano 80 items in a private collection.  Actually, there were two concurrent auctions, one of the Zamorano = 80 items and another of maps and two journals =

 =

You can view = the catalogs at the Sloan website http://www.dsloan.com<= font color=3Dblack>=

 =

Some = highlights:=

 =

One of the = two journals was the unpublished holograph diary of  Dr. George Sanderson, = otherwise known as “Dr. Death” of the Mormon Battalion march.  = Fortunately, only BYU and U of U libraries bid on it and Greg Thompson of the U emerged the winner.  $44K plus 15% premium.  This is a great southwest = item but as it turns out, there is little or no mention of the Mormons.  = Instead it has great observations about the Indian and Mexican cultures and very = precise observations about the geography.  Will Bagley and Greg spent 5 = hours going through it page by page.  =

 =

Bookshelfer = Mark Edlund put Will and Greg on to this item which was buried at the end of a = catalog of maps.

 =

7 of the 17 = maps went without an opening bid.  Those that did sell usually had only one bid. 

 =

The Zamorano = auction was a different story.  The number of bidders was about three times = the number at the map auction.  .  A few highlights:=

 =

The exquisite = copy of Lansford Hastings “Emigrants Guide” went for $135,000 after = spirited bidding.  The copy of Joaquin Murietta, sold for $75,000 opening bid.  Stunning since there is only one other known copy.  = Most amazing to me was that a rather ordinary copy of Tyler’s = “Mormon Battalion” sold for $1800.

 =

I bid on a = copy of Ina Coolbrith’s “Songs from the Golden Gate” inscribed to = the artist Maynard Dixon and his wife.  I was prepared to go well beyond the high estimate = but so was another bidder who took every item he bid on.  No chance for = me.  I also ran into a buzz saw on a Bret Harte item with a letter from = him.  It wasn’t my day.

 =

Greg, on the = other hand, had a field day.  In addition to the fine manuscript, the items he = bid on had little action and he was able to add some fine California items to = their collection. 

 =

For those who = haven’t seen a Dorothy Sloan catalog, these may be the finest catalogs = available.  I think they are collectible just by themselves.  = =

 =

A few other = choice morsels:

 =

An exquisite = set of Bancroft’s Works in the premium leather binding went for = $4000=

A first = edition of Twain’s “Celebrated Jumping Frog…” in an = appropriate green binding went for $20,000.

Reglamento = California, the first laws governing California went for the opening bid of = $125,000.=

 =

Keith = =

- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CE16.ADDF9A70-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:48:14 -0700 From: "Malcolm Vickery" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Not on the subject... But you will laugh! This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2CEA7.2E16C660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know, I know, these aren't on the subject of books... But they made me smile!! Best! Malcolm - Distinctive Books CHURCH BULLETIN BLOOPERS 1. The Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles and other items to be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children. 2. Ladies Bible Study will be held Thursday morning at 10. All ladies are invited to lunch in the Fellowship Hall after the B.S. is done. 3. The pastor would appreciate it if the ladies of the congregation would lend him their electric girdles for the pancake breakfast next Sabbath. 4. Low Self Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 PM. Please use the back door. 5. The pastor will preach his farewell message, after which the choir will sing, "Break Forth Into Joy." 6. A songfest was hell at the Methodist church Wednesday. 7. Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community. 8. The eighth-graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet in the Church basement Friday at 7 PM. The Congregation is invited to attend this tragedy. 9. Thursday night Potluck Supper. Prayer and medication to follow. 10. The rosebud on the altar this morning is to announce the birth of David, the sin of Rev. and Mrs. Adams. 11. Tuesday at 4 PM there will be an ice cream social. All ladies giving milk will please come early. 12. A bean supper will be held on Tuesday evening in the church hall. Music will follow. 13. Mrs. Johnson will be entering the hospital this week for testes. 14. Please join us as we show our support for Amy and Alan who are preparing for the girth of their first child. 15. The Lutheran Men's group will meet at 6 PM. Steak, mashed potatoes, green beans, bread and dessert will be served for a nominal feel. 16. The Associate Minister unveiled the church's new tithing campaign slogan last Sunday: "I Upped My Pledge - Up Yours." 17. Our next song is "Angels We Have Heard Get High." 18. The service will close with Little Drops of Water. One of the ladies will start quietly and the rest of the congregation will join in. 19. Eight new choir robes are currently needed, due to the addition of several new members and to the deterioration of some older ones. 20. The senior choir invites any member of the congregation who enjoys sinning to join the choir. - ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2CEA7.2E16C660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

I know, = I know, these=20 aren't on the subject of books...

But they = made me=20 smile!!

Best!

Malcolm = - - Distinctive=20 Books

CHURCH BULLETIN BLOOPERS

1. The Scouts are saving aluminum cans, = bottles and=20 other items to be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple=20 children.

2. Ladies Bible Study will be held = Thursday morning=20 at 10. All ladies are invited to lunch in the Fellowship Hall after the = B.S. is=20 done.

3. The pastor would appreciate it if the = ladies of=20 the congregation would lend him their electric girdles for the pancake = breakfast=20 next Sabbath.

4. Low Self Esteem Support Group will = meet Thursday=20 at 7 PM. Please use the back door.

5. The pastor will preach his farewell = message, after=20 which the choir will sing, "Break Forth Into Joy."

6. A songfest was hell at the Methodist = church=20 Wednesday.

7. Remember in prayer the many who are = sick of our=20 church and community.

8. The eighth-graders will be presenting=20 Shakespeare's Hamlet in the Church basement Friday at 7 PM. The = Congregation is=20 invited to attend this tragedy.

9. Thursday night Potluck Supper. Prayer = and=20 medication to follow.

10. The rosebud on the altar this morning = is to=20 announce the birth of David, the sin of Rev. and Mrs. Adams.

11. Tuesday at 4 PM there will be an ice = cream=20 social. All ladies giving milk will please come early.

12. A bean supper will be held on Tuesday = evening in=20 the church hall. Music will follow.

13. Mrs. Johnson will be entering the = hospital this=20 week for testes.

14. Please join us as we show our support = for Amy and=20 Alan who are preparing for the girth of their first child.

15. The Lutheran Men's group will meet at = 6 PM.=20 Steak, mashed potatoes, green beans, bread and dessert will be served = for a=20 nominal feel.

16. The Associate Minister unveiled the = church's new=20 tithing campaign slogan last Sunday: "I Upped My Pledge - Up = Yours."

17. Our next song is "Angels We Have = Heard Get=20 High."

18. The service will close with Little = Drops of=20 Water. One of the ladies will start quietly and the rest of the = congregation=20 will join in.

19. Eight new choir robes are currently = needed, due=20 to the addition of several new members and to the deterioration of some = older=20 ones.

20. The senior choir invites any member = of the=20 congregation who enjoys sinning to join the=20 choir.

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