From: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-bookshelf-digest) To: lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #959 Reply-To: lds-bookshelf Sender: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-bookshelf-digest Saturday, February 8 2003 Volume 01 : Number 959 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 09:36:05 -0800 From: "Keith Irwin" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2CF55.80D66820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will also say that this was the most exciting and boring auction I've = ever attended. Exciting because of the great material. I went to the = preview and spent half an hour examining the Lansford Hastings Emigrant's Guide. This was a beautiful copy. Looked like it had gone on a shelf right = after printing. I don't know if I'll ever get to touch one of these again. = The catalog says there are only 10 known copies. Same for the Joaquin = Murrieta. The only other known copy is at Yale. For a bookshelfer, this was a spiritual experience. And of course, holding the Sanderson journal and reading his wonderful descriptions written in a flawless script, was = more than exciting. =20 The auction, though, was a dreadful bore. The first several maps went without a bid. Those that did sell had a single bid and went for low estimate. The low estimates, I should note, were not all that low and represented the reserve price. Dorothy Sloan conducted the auction personally. She likes to be in control of her auctions, which is = certainly understandable for an auction as significant as this. But she doesn't = have a strong voice and has the confusing habit of calling the bidder number after EVERY bid. It not only confused bidders but also got her confused = at time. Four items had to be re-bid because of errors. It was also = boring because of the lack of bidding. Most items sold for the opening bid. = Even Joaquin Murietta, one of two known copies, sold with a single bid. Not = much excitement there. =20 =20 Yesterday I went to the California Book Fair. This is an ABAA show in = SF that attracts dealers from all over the country and several European countries. Lot's of wonderful books but almost no Mormon items. Bookshelfer Ken Sanders had a much larger booth than last year. Emmett Harrington has made public the fact that he will be moving his shop from = San Francisco to the St. George area later this year. =20 =20 Keith =20 =20 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Edlund, = Mark J Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:34 AM To: 'lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction =20 Keith, =20 Thanks for the report on the auction. I was really glad to see that U = of U got the Sanderson journal, and I feel good knowing that I played a role, albeit small, in bringing such a nice item into their collection. I was hoping that not many of the Utah/Mormon collectors would see it, and it sounds like that may have happened, as there were only two bidders. I = know Greg somewhat from my visits to Special Collections at the U of U, and = also because his U of U basketball seats (and those of Floyd O'Neil) are in = the row behind my dad's seats, and so I see him whenever I am in town and = there is a game. He is a nice guy and he has brought some really great stuff = to the U., most noticeably the Stegner collection. =20 Mark =20 - -----Original Message----- From: Keith Irwin [mailto:irwinkw@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:55 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction =20 I just returned from the auction of the collection of Dan Volkman. Dan = had the only complete collection of 1st edition Zamorano 80 items in a = private collection. Actually, there were two concurrent auctions, one of the Zamorano 80 items and another of maps and two journals=20 =20 You can view the catalogs at the Sloan website http://www.dsloan.com =20 =20 Some highlights: =20 One of the two journals was the unpublished holograph diary of Dr. = George Sanderson, otherwise known as "Dr. Death" of the Mormon Battalion march. Fortunately, only BYU and U of U libraries bid on it and Greg Thompson = of the U emerged the winner. $44K plus 15% premium. This is a great = southwest item but as it turns out, there is little or no mention of the Mormons. Instead it has great observations about the Indian and Mexican cultures = and very precise observations about the geography. Will Bagley and Greg = spent 5 hours going through it page by page. =20 =20 Bookshelfer Mark Edlund put Will and Greg on to this item which was = buried at the end of a catalog of maps. =20 7 of the 17 maps went without an opening bid. Those that did sell = usually had only one bid. =20 =20 The Zamorano auction was a different story. The number of bidders was = about three times the number at the map auction. . A few highlights: =20 The exquisite copy of Lansford Hastings "Emigrants Guide" went for = $135,000 after spirited bidding. The copy of Joaquin Murietta, sold for $75,000 opening bid. Stunning since there is only one other known copy. Most amazing to me was that a rather ordinary copy of Tyler's "Mormon = Battalion" sold for $1800. =20 I bid on a copy of Ina Coolbrith's "Songs from the Golden Gate" = inscribed to the artist Maynard Dixon and his wife. I was prepared to go well beyond = the high estimate but so was another bidder who took every item he bid on. = No chance for me. I also ran into a buzz saw on a Bret Harte item with a letter from him. It wasn't my day. =20 Greg, on the other hand, had a field day. In addition to the fine manuscript, the items he bid on had little action and he was able to add some fine California items to their collection. =20 =20 For those who haven't seen a Dorothy Sloan catalog, these may be the = finest catalogs available. I think they are collectible just by themselves. =20 =20 A few other choice morsels: =20 An exquisite set of Bancroft's Works in the premium leather binding went = for $4000 A first edition of Twain's "Celebrated Jumping Frog." in an appropriate green binding went for $20,000. Reglamento California, the first laws governing California went for the opening bid of $125,000. =20 Keith=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2CF55.80D66820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I will also say that this was the = most exciting and boring auction I’ve ever attended.  Exciting = because of the great material.  I went to the preview and spent half an hour examining the Lansford Hastings Emigrant’s Guide.  This was a beautiful copy.  Looked like it had gone on a shelf right after = printing.  I don’t know if I’ll ever get to touch one of these again. =  The catalog says there are only 10 known copies.  Same for the Joaquin Murrieta.  The only other known copy is at Yale.  For a = bookshelfer, this was a spiritual experience.  And of course, holding the = Sanderson journal and reading his wonderful descriptions written in a flawless = script, was more than exciting.

 

The auction, though, was a dreadful bore.  The first several maps went without a bid.  Those that = did sell had a single bid and went for low estimate. The low estimates, I = should note, were not all that low and represented the reserve price.  = Dorothy Sloan conducted the auction personally.  She likes to be in control = of her auctions, which is certainly understandable for an auction as = significant as this.  But she doesn’t have a strong voice and has the = confusing habit of calling the bidder number after EVERY bid.  It not only = confused bidders but also got her confused at time.  Four items had to be = re-bid because of errors.  It was also boring because of the lack of bidding.  Most items sold for the opening bid.  Even Joaquin = Murietta, one of two known copies, sold with a single bid.  Not much = excitement there. 

 

Yesterday I went to the California = Book Fair.  This is an ABAA show in SF that attracts dealers from all = over the country and several European countries.  Lot’s of = wonderful books but almost no Mormon items.  Bookshelfer Ken Sanders had a = much larger booth than last year.  Emmett Harrington has made public the = fact that he will be moving his shop from San Francisco to the St. = George area later this year. 

 

Keith

 

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Edlund, Mark J
Sent: Thursday, February = 06, 2003 11:34 AM
To: 'lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: = [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction

 

Keith,

 

Thanks for the report on the auction.  I was really glad to see that U of U got = the Sanderson journal, and I feel good knowing that I played a role, albeit = small, in bringing such a nice item into their collection.  I was hoping = that not many of the Utah/Mormon collectors would see it, and it sounds like that = may have happened, as there were only two bidders. I know Greg somewhat from = my visits to Special Collections at the U of U, and also because his U of U basketball seats (and those of Floyd O’Neil) are in the row behind = my dad’s seats, and so I see him whenever I am in town and there is a game.  He is a nice guy and he has brought some really great stuff = to the U., most noticeably the Stegner collection.

 

Mark

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Irwin [mailto:irwinkw@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February = 05, 2003 11:55 PM
To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] = Zamorano auction

 

I just = returned from the auction of the collection of Dan Volkman.  Dan had the only = complete collection of 1st edition Zamorano 80 items in a private collection.  Actually, there were two concurrent auctions, one of the Zamorano = 80 items and another of maps and two journals

 

You can view = the catalogs at the Sloan website http://www.dsloan.com

 

Some = highlights:

 

One of the two = journals was the unpublished holograph diary of  Dr. George Sanderson, = otherwise known as “Dr. Death” of the Mormon Battalion march.  Fortunately, only BYU and U of U libraries bid on it and Greg Thompson = of the U emerged the winner.  $44K plus 15% premium.  This is a great southwest item but as it turns out, there is little or no mention of the Mormons.  Instead it has great observations about the Indian and = Mexican cultures and very precise observations about the geography.  Will = Bagley and Greg spent 5 hours going through it page by page.  =

 

Bookshelfer = Mark Edlund put Will and Greg on to this item which was buried at the end of a = catalog of maps.

 

7 of the 17 = maps went without an opening bid.  Those that did sell usually had only one bid. 

 

The Zamorano = auction was a different story.  The number of bidders was about three times the = number at the map auction.  .  A few highlights:

 

The exquisite = copy of Lansford Hastings “Emigrants Guide” went for $135,000 after spirited bidding.  The copy of Joaquin Murietta, sold for $75,000 opening bid.  Stunning since there is only one other known copy.  Most amazing to me was that a rather ordinary copy of Tyler’s = “Mormon Battalion” sold for $1800.

 

I bid on a = copy of Ina Coolbrith’s “Songs from the Golden Gate” inscribed to = the artist Maynard Dixon and his wife.  I was prepared to go well = beyond the high estimate but so was another bidder who took every item he bid = on.  No chance for me.  I also ran into a buzz saw on a Bret Harte item = with a letter from him.  It wasn’t my day.

 

Greg, on the = other hand, had a field day.  In addition to the fine manuscript, the items he = bid on had little action and he was able to add some fine California items to = their collection. 

 

For those who haven’t seen a Dorothy Sloan catalog, these may be the finest = catalogs available.  I think they are collectible just by themselves.  =

 

A few other = choice morsels:

 

An exquisite = set of Bancroft’s Works in the premium leather binding went for $4000

A first = edition of Twain’s “Celebrated Jumping Frog…” in an = appropriate green binding went for $20,000.

Reglamento = California, the first laws governing California went for the opening bid of = $125,000.

 

Keith =

- ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2CF55.80D66820-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:20:02 -0800 From: "Philip Bradford" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2CF5B.A4900270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wonder if the reason there were few bids is the state of the economy. This three year bear market has caused substantial stock market losses causing discretionary spending to be curtailed. To those out there buying and selling books, has the weak economy affected your business or are people still buying as much as ever? Phil I will also say that this was the most exciting and boring auction I've ever attended. Exciting because of the great material. I went to the preview and spent half an hour examining the Lansford Hastings Emigrant's Guide. This was a beautiful copy. Looked like it had gone on a shelf right after printing. I don't know if I'll ever get to touch one of these again. The catalog says there are only 10 known copies. Same for the Joaquin Murrieta. The only other known copy is at Yale. For a bookshelfer, this was a spiritual experience. And of course, holding the Sanderson journal and reading his wonderful descriptions written in a flawless script, was more than exciting. The auction, though, was a dreadful bore. The first several maps went without a bid. Those that did sell had a single bid and went for low estimate. The low estimates, I should note, were not all that low and represented the reserve price. Dorothy Sloan conducted the auction personally. She likes to be in control of her auctions, which is certainly understandable for an auction as significant as this. But she doesn't have a strong voice and has the confusing habit of calling the bidder number after EVERY bid. It not only confused bidders but also got her confused at time. Four items had to be re-bid because of errors. It was also boring because of the lack of bidding. Most items sold for the opening bid. Even Joaquin Murietta, one of two known copies, sold with a single bid. Not much excitement there. Yesterday I went to the California Book Fair. This is an ABAA show in SF that attracts dealers from all over the country and several European countries. Lot's of wonderful books but almost no Mormon items. Bookshelfer Ken Sanders had a much larger booth than last year. Emmett Harrington has made public the fact that he will be moving his shop from San Francisco to the St. George area later this year. Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Edlund, Mark J Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:34 AM To: 'lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction Keith, Thanks for the report on the auction. I was really glad to see that U of U got the Sanderson journal, and I feel good knowing that I played a role, albeit small, in bringing such a nice item into their collection. I was hoping that not many of the Utah/Mormon collectors would see it, and it sounds like that may have happened, as there were only two bidders. I know Greg somewhat from my visits to Special Collections at the U of U, and also because his U of U basketball seats (and those of Floyd O'Neil) are in the row behind my dad's seats, and so I see him whenever I am in town and there is a game. He is a nice guy and he has brought some really great stuff to the U., most noticeably the Stegner collection. Mark - -----Original Message----- From: Keith Irwin [mailto:irwinkw@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:55 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction I just returned from the auction of the collection of Dan Volkman. Dan had the only complete collection of 1st edition Zamorano 80 items in a private collection. Actually, there were two concurrent auctions, one of the Zamorano 80 items and another of maps and two journals You can view the catalogs at the Sloan website http://www.dsloan.com Some highlights: One of the two journals was the unpublished holograph diary of Dr. George Sanderson, otherwise known as "Dr. Death" of the Mormon Battalion march. Fortunately, only BYU and U of U libraries bid on it and Greg Thompson of the U emerged the winner. $44K plus 15% premium. This is a great southwest item but as it turns out, there is little or no mention of the Mormons. Instead it has great observations about the Indian and Mexican cultures and very precise observations about the geography. Will Bagley and Greg spent 5 hours going through it page by page. Bookshelfer Mark Edlund put Will and Greg on to this item which was buried at the end of a catalog of maps. 7 of the 17 maps went without an opening bid. Those that did sell usually had only one bid. The Zamorano auction was a different story. The number of bidders was about three times the number at the map auction. . A few highlights: The exquisite copy of Lansford Hastings "Emigrants Guide" went for $135,000 after spirited bidding. The copy of Joaquin Murietta, sold for $75,000 opening bid. Stunning since there is only one other known copy. Most amazing to me was that a rather ordinary copy of Tyler's "Mormon Battalion" sold for $1800. I bid on a copy of Ina Coolbrith's "Songs from the Golden Gate" inscribed to the artist Maynard Dixon and his wife. I was prepared to go well beyond the high estimate but so was another bidder who took every item he bid on. No chance for me. I also ran into a buzz saw on a Bret Harte item with a letter from him. It wasn't my day. Greg, on the other hand, had a field day. In addition to the fine manuscript, the items he bid on had little action and he was able to add some fine California items to their collection. For those who haven't seen a Dorothy Sloan catalog, these may be the finest catalogs available. I think they are collectible just by themselves. A few other choice morsels: An exquisite set of Bancroft's Works in the premium leather binding went for $4000 A first edition of Twain's "Celebrated Jumping Frog." in an appropriate green binding went for $20,000. Reglamento California, the first laws governing California went for the opening bid of $125,000. Keith - ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2CF5B.A4900270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I wonder if the reason there were = few bids is the state of the economy.  This three year bear market has = caused substantial stock market losses causing discretionary spending to be = curtailed.  To those out there buying and selling books, has the weak economy = affected your business or are people still buying as much as ever?

 

Phil 

 

 

I will also say = that this was the most exciting and boring auction I’ve ever attended.  Exciting because of the great material.  I went to the preview and = spent half an hour examining the Lansford Hastings Emigrant’s = Guide.  This was a beautiful copy.  Looked like it had gone on a shelf right = after printing.  I don’t know if I’ll ever get to touch one = of these again.  The catalog says there are only 10 known copies.  Same = for the Joaquin Murrieta.  The only other known copy is at Yale.  = For a bookshelfer, this was a spiritual experience.  And of course, = holding the Sanderson journal and reading his wonderful descriptions written in a = flawless script, was more than exciting.

 

The auction, = though, was a dreadful bore.  The first several maps went without a bid.  = Those that did sell had a single bid and went for low estimate. The low = estimates, I should note, were not all that low and represented the reserve = price.  Dorothy Sloan conducted the auction personally.  She likes to be in control of her auctions, which is certainly understandable for an = auction as significant as this.  But she doesn’t have a strong voice and = has the confusing habit of calling the bidder number after EVERY bid. =  It not only confused bidders but also got her confused at time.  Four = items had to be re-bid because of errors.  It was also boring because of the = lack of bidding.  Most items sold for the opening bid.  Even Joaquin Murietta, one of two known copies, sold with a single bid.  Not = much excitement there. 

 

Yesterday I went = to the California Book Fair.  This is an ABAA show in SF that attracts = dealers from all over the country and several European countries. =  Lot’s of = wonderful books but almost no Mormon items.  Bookshelfer Ken Sanders had a = much larger booth than last year.  Emmett Harrington has made public the = fact that he will be moving his shop from San Francisco to the St. = George area later this year. 

 

Keith

 

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Edlund, Mark = J
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:34 = AM
To: 'lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com'
Subject: RE: = [LDS-Bookshelf] Zamorano auction

 

Keith,

 

Thanks for the report on the auction.  I was really glad to see that U of U got = the Sanderson journal, and I feel good knowing that I played a role, albeit = small, in bringing such a nice item into their collection.  I was hoping = that not many of the Utah/Mormon collectors would see it, and it sounds like that = may have happened, as there were only two bidders. I know Greg somewhat from = my visits to Special Collections at the U of U, and also because his U of U basketball seats (and those of Floyd O’Neil) are in the row behind = my dad’s seats, and so I see him whenever I am in town and there is a game.  = He is a nice guy and he has brought some really great stuff to the U., most noticeably the Stegner collection.

 

Mark

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Irwin [mailto:irwinkw@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:55 = PM
To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] = Zamorano auction

 

I just = returned from the auction of the collection of Dan Volkman.  Dan had the only = complete collection of 1st edition Zamorano 80 items in a private collection. =  Actually, there were two concurrent auctions, one of the Zamorano 80 items and another = of maps and two journals

 

You can view = the catalogs at the Sloan website http://www.dsloan.com

 

Some = highlights:

 

One of the two = journals was the unpublished holograph diary of  Dr. George Sanderson, = otherwise known as “Dr. Death” of the Mormon Battalion march.  Fortunately, only BYU and U of U libraries bid on it and Greg Thompson = of the U emerged the winner.  $44K plus 15% premium.  This is a great southwest item but as it turns out, there is little or no mention of the Mormons.  Instead it has great observations about the Indian and = Mexican cultures and very precise observations about the geography.  Will Bagley and = Greg spent 5 hours going through it page by page. 

 

Bookshelfer = Mark Edlund put Will and Greg on to this item which was buried at the end of a = catalog of maps.

 

7 of the 17 = maps went without an opening bid.  Those that did sell usually had only one bid. 

 

The Zamorano = auction was a different story.  The number of bidders was about three times the = number at the map auction.  .  A few highlights:

 

The exquisite = copy of Lansford Hastings “Emigrants Guide” went for $135,000 after spirited bidding.  The copy of Joaquin Murietta, sold for $75,000 = opening bid.  Stunning since there is only one other known copy.  Most amazing to me was that a rather ordinary copy of Tyler’s “Mormon Battalion” sold for = $1800.

 

I bid on a = copy of Ina Coolbrith’s “Songs from the Golden Gate” inscribed to = the artist Maynard Dixon and his wife.  I was prepared to go well = beyond the high estimate but so was another bidder who took every item he bid = on.  No chance for me.  I also ran into a buzz saw on a Bret Harte item = with a letter from him.  It wasn’t my day.

 

Greg, on the = other hand, had a field day.  In addition to the fine manuscript, the items he = bid on had little action and he was able to add some fine California items to their = collection. 

 

For those who haven’t seen a Dorothy Sloan catalog, these may be the finest = catalogs available.  I think they are collectible just by themselves.  =

 

A few other = choice morsels:

 

An exquisite = set of Bancroft’s Works in the premium leather binding went for = $4000

A first = edition of Twain’s “Celebrated Jumping Frog…” in an = appropriate green binding went for $20,000.

Reglamento = California, the first laws governing = California went for the opening bid of = $125,000.

 

Keith =

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