From: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-bookshelf-digest) To: lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #973 Reply-To: lds-bookshelf Sender: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-bookshelf-digest Monday, January 26 2004 Volume 01 : Number 973 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:42:24 -0700 From: Kendall Gubler Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Re:Emment Harrington As many of you know, Emmett Harrington was moving to Ivins Utah last fall. I finally reached him by phone in the middle of December. Last weekend I managed to spend some time with Emmett and Bonnie(what a lovely lady ). Harrington Fine Books is Located in the Coyote Gulch Art Village at Kayenta, near the city of St. George(about 5 miles west ). His shop is open from 11 to 5 Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and of course other days by appointment. Phone numbers 1-888-674-3555, or local 435-674-3555. For those who fondly remember his shop in San Francisco, you are in for a treat. His new shop is about 1and 1/2 times larger, and the layout is much nicer. His inventory is like the shop and is just great. He had a few mormon items on hand and his western americana stock left me drolling. I did purchase a first edition of Stewart H. Holbrook's "The Old Post Road" The Story of the Boston Post Road. When Emmett was writing it up his eyebrows raised and he asked why the purchase of a book about Boston. When I mentioned I was collecting The American trails Series it was oaky. The Purchase that really tickled me was a second printing of "The Great Rascal" The exploits of the amazing Ned Buntline. Not a expensive book, but the dust jacket was crisp and the colors were bright and vibrant, they practically jumped of the shelf and into my hands. It's nice to have the internet to browse but nothing replaces the visual pleasure of being able to browse and handle the actual book. For those who are looking to escape the winter blues come to Dixie and lets party. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:48:10 EST From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Re:Emment Harrington - -------------------------------1074869290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/23/2004 1:46:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, kgubler@netutah.com writes: It's nice to have the internet to browse but nothing replaces the visual pleasure of being able to browse and handle the actual book. For those who are looking to escape the winter blues come to Dixie and lets party. Thanks for this report, Kendall! We probably need more of this sort of information exchange and community spirit in the LDS/Mormon collecting world. The more we know, the more we will . . . want to know. Rick Grunder - -------------------------------1074869290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 1/23/2004 1:46:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, kgubler@= netutah.com writes:

It's nice to have the internet to browse but n= othing replaces the
visual pleasure of being able to browse and handle t= he actual book. For
those who are looking to escape the
winter blues=20= come to Dixie and lets party.

Thanks for this report, Kendall! We probably need more of this so= rt of information exchange and community spirit in the LDS/Mormon collecting= world. The more we know, the more we will . . . want to know.

Rick Grunder

- -------------------------------1074869290-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:46:38 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Keith Irwin Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Re:Emmett Harrington Emmett's old shop was just a few blocks from my office. I often would wander over there at lunch, bury myself in his overstuffed leather chair, and chew the fat with him about the book world. Emmett is the epitomy of the "gentleman bookseller." He knows a lot and is always willing to share. But I never heard him utter a bad word about anyone. He's also one of the few guys who still regularly produces a printed catalog. And it's always a fine one at that. I'm still not sure about how he and Bonnie will fit in the culture of Southern Utah, but we had many conversations about it and he's certainly game. Our loss is your gain, Kendall. - -----Original Message----- From: Kendall Gubler Sent: Jan 22, 2004 10:42 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Re:Emment Harrington As many of you know, Emmett Harrington was moving to Ivins Utah last fall. I finally reached him by phone in the middle of December. Last weekend I managed to spend some time with Emmett and Bonnie(what a lovely lady ). Harrington Fine Books is Located in the Coyote Gulch Art Village at Kayenta, near the city of St. George(about 5 miles west ). His shop is open from 11 to 5 Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and of course other days by appointment. Phone numbers 1-888-674-3555, or local 435-674-3555. For those who fondly remember his shop in San Francisco, you are in for a treat. His new shop is about 1and 1/2 times larger, and the layout is much nicer. His inventory is like the shop and is just great. He had a few mormon items on hand and his western americana stock left me drolling. I did purchase a first edition of Stewart H. Holbrook's "The Old Post Road" The Story of the Boston Post Road. When Emmett was writing it up his eyebrows raised and he asked why the purchase of a book about Boston. When I mentioned I was collecting The American trails Series it was oaky. The Purchase that really tickled me was a second printing of "The Great Rascal" The exploits of the amazing Ned Buntline. Not a expensive book, but the dust jacket was crisp and the colors were bright and vibrant, they practically jumped of the shelf and into my hands. It's nice to have the internet to browse but nothing replaces the visual pleasure of being able to browse and handle the actual book. For those who are looking to escape the winter blues come to Dixie and lets party. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:22:41 -0700 From: "Snow, Donald R." Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Things that Endure - --=====================_7171502==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hey, Keith, I thought of my office at BYU, too! You may be interested to know that except for 100 cartons of math books that are still in storage, my BYU office is cleaned out now. All my church and family history books are at home and here in St. George. Don At 09:07 PM 1/22/2004, Keith Irwin wrote: >Why, this reminds me of my visit to fellow Bookshelfer Don Snow's office >at BYU! Just enough of a path to get to his desk, as I recall. I >remember thinking, "Now THIS is a guy with a passion for books! > >Tell 'em it's true, Don. > >Keith > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of RickBook@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:18 AM >To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Things that Endure > >I heard a feature on National Public Radio this morning about compulsive >hoarding. The lead-in story said that a forty-two-year-old man in the >Bronx was trapped in his apartment for two days by falling books and >newspapers which he had accumulated. The speaker then mentioned some >pocket-sized "Collier Park ?" in New York City where, years ago, two >brothers were found dead in their four-story brownstone house, killed by a >similar mishap; "hundreds of tons" of newspapers were found in that >building, the report said. And of course we have all heard the story of >what's-his-name in Europe killed a few centuries ago by a falling bookcase >full of folios (which is why we now keep our larger volumes on bottom shelves). > >A dozen years ago, I visited the retired historian of our county. He >lived in a perfectly respectable downtown high-rise apartment >building. But the moment you stepped through the front door, you were in >another world. A path perhaps two feet wide led from room to room. On >each side of the path were books, papers, and newspapers piled several >feet high. The man who negotiated this labyrinth each hour of his life >had an artificial leg. I remember him propping himself up on a bar stool, >in order to use the kitchen cabinet as a desk, where he had cleared a >space large enough to accommodate a folded newspaper to peruse. > >Then there was Dorothy W., back in Indiana in the 1980s. She came up to >me at a book fair one day and started chatting. Despite her impressive >body odor, she was pleasant enough, and intelligent - perhaps in her >seventies. I ended up visiting her home, where she had complete sets of >John Gould's folio bird books (not Audubon prices, but very >valuable). She also had a trunk with many choice individual folio prints >from other, broken sets. All hand colored; each worth hundreds of >dollars even then. > >I used her bathroom. The tub was dry and filled with more >collectibles. Her house was very cold, and I later learned that she had >insulted well meaning neighbors who had ordered a load of coal delivered >free of charge. > >There is an aging couple within an hour of my house who are truly on their >last legs. I have not been to their home, but a collector friend >describes the amazing treasures everywhere - room after room. They won't >let him up in the book room. > >And so, fellow collectors, as we observe alarming current events at home >and abroad, as we endure the lagging economy, or see teenagers on >television who are unable to name the countries which border the United >States, take heart! There are still folks out there who preserve the old >values . . . > > > >RickBook Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Prof of Math, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah 84602 snowd@math.byu.edu, drs31@juno.com Temporarily on a Family History Mission at the St. George Regional Family History Training Center, St. George, Utah -- home phone in St. George 435-673-1932 - --=====================_7171502==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hey, Keith, I thought of my office at BYU, too! You may be interested to know that except for 100 cartons of math books that are still in storage, my BYU office is cleaned out now. All my church and family history books are at home and here in St. George.

Don

At 09:07 PM 1/22/2004, Keith Irwin wrote:

Why, this reminds me of my visit to fellow Bookshelfer Don Snow’s office at BYU! Just enough of a path to get to his desk, as I recall. I remember thinking, “Now THIS is a guy with a passion for books!

Tell ‘em it’s true, Don.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of RickBook@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:18 AM
To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com
Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Things that Endure

I heard a feature on National Public Radio this morning about compulsive hoarding. The lead-in story said that a forty-two-year-old man in the Bronx was trapped in his apartment for two days by falling books and newspapers which he had accumulated. The speaker then mentioned some pocket-sized "Collier Park ?" in New York City where, years ago, two brothers were found dead in their four-story brownstone house, killed by a similar mishap; "hundreds of tons" of newspapers were found in that building, the report said. And of course we have all heard the story of what's-his-name in Europe killed a few centuries ago by a falling bookcase full of folios (which is why we now keep our larger volumes on bottom shelves).

A dozen years ago, I visited the retired historian of our county. He lived in a perfectly respectable downtown high-rise apartment building. But the moment you stepped through the front door, you were in another world. A path perhaps two feet wide led from room to room. On each side of the path were books, papers, and newspapers piled several feet high. The man who negotiated this labyrinth each hour of his life had an artificial leg. I remember him propping himself up on a bar stool, in order to use the kitchen cabinet as a desk, where he had cleared a space large enough to accommodate a folded newspaper to peruse.

Then there was Dorothy W., back in Indiana in the 1980s. She came up to me at a book fair one day and started chatting. Despite her impressive body odor, she was pleasant enough, and intelligent - perhaps in her seventies. I ended up visiting her home, where she had complete sets of John Gould's folio bird books (not Audubon prices, but very valuable). She also had a trunk with many choice individual folio prints from other, broken sets. All hand colored; each worth hundreds of dollars even then.

I used her bathroom. The tub was dry and filled with more collectibles. Her house was very cold, and I later learned that she had insulted well meaning neighbors who had ordered a load of coal delivered free of charge.

There is an aging couple within an hour of my house who are truly on their last legs. I have not been to their home, but a collector friend describes the amazing treasures everywhere - room after room. They won't let him up in the book room.

And so, fellow collectors, as we observe alarming current events at home and abroad, as we endure the lagging economy, or see teenagers on television who are unable to name the countries which border the United States, take heart! There are still folks out there who preserve the old values . . .

<acquisitive grin>

RickBook

Dr. Donald R. Snow, Retired Prof of Math, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah 84602

snowd@math.byu.edu, drs31@juno.com

Temporarily on a Family History Mission at the St. George Regional Family History Training Center, St. George, Utah -- home phone in St. George 435-673-1932 - --=====================_7171502==.ALT-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:12:43 -0700 From: "Morgan B. Adair" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Things that Endure From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Snow, Donald R. > >Hey, Keith, I thought of my office at BYU, too! >You may be interested to know that except for 100 >cartons of math books that are still in storage, >my BYU office is cleaned out now. All my church >and family history books are at home and here in >St. George. Reminds me of the office of Marion "Doc" Smith, the mentor for all the Science Fiction writers at BYU. After filling all the shelves, he started stacking books up on the desk, tables, floor. Last time I saw his office, there were stacks of books up to the ceiling, with just enough space for he and a student to sit, but the student had to lean to one side to fit under a stack of books that threatened to collapse at any moment. MBA - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:36:06 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Eccles Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] E-Bay article - --0-865627356-1075134966=:51237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you haven't read this, you might want to read it while it is available on their website for free. It is about the rising e-bay fraud level. - --Steve http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Jan/01252004/business/132032.asp - --0-865627356-1075134966=:51237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

If you haven't read this, you might want to read it while it is available on their website for free. It is about the rising e-bay fraud level.

--Steve

http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Jan/01252004/business/132032.asp

- --0-865627356-1075134966=:51237-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:54:58 -0700 From: Ken Sanders Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] E-Bay article Dear LDS Bookshelfers, I'm writing an article for Firsts magazine regarding fraud in the book trade, and especially how the rise of the internet (ebay in particular) has created a whole new magnitude of fraud. I myself have recently purchased two fakes from ebay. ABAA president Ken Lopez and myself wasted nine months last year (at ebay's behest) trying to sort thru their fraud issues to no avail. The short answer is they have no interest in stopping most types of fraud. In my opnion it will take a multi million dollar class action lawsuit to get their attention. If any of you have any book fraud stories to share, on or off the internet, I'd be interested in your emailing them to me. Ken Sanders Steve Eccles wrote: > If you haven't read this, you might want to read it while it is > available on their website for free. It is about the rising e-bay fraud > level. > > --Steve > > http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Jan/01252004/business/132032.asp - -- Ken Sanders Ken Sanders Rare Books, ABAA 268 South 200 East Salt Lake City UT 84111 (801) 521-3819 Fax: (801) 521-2606 http://www.kensandersbooks.com ken@dreamgarden.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:21:41 -0600 From: "Edlund, Mark J." Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Re:Emmett Harrington I will miss visiting Emmett in his SF shop-in my opinion it was the = finest shop for Western Americana on the West Coast. Great books, = reasonable pricing, and a pleasant and knowledgeable owner. I will have = to visit him in his new place, although for some of us it is a bit out = of the way. Re his catalogues, I was visiting with Glen Dawson at his place in = Pasadena a few years back, and he spontaneously took out one of Emmett's = catalogues to praise it. High praise from a man who has seen (and = produced) many fine catalogues over the years. I have a question re Juanita Brooks' bio of Dudley Leavitt that was = published in 1942. First, was there a dj? Second, there are two = bindings, a light blue and dark blue, which differed somewhat in the = order of the preliminary material. Is one preferable? Are they both = considered true first editions? Also, was the book reprinted in both = wraps and boards, or just in wraps? Who reprinted it, and when? Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Keith = Irwin Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:47 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Re:Emmett Harrington Emmett's old shop was just a few blocks from my office. I often would = wander over there at lunch, bury myself in his overstuffed leather = chair, and chew the fat with him about the book world. Emmett is the = epitomy of the "gentleman bookseller." He knows a lot and is always = willing to share. But I never heard him utter a bad word about anyone. = He's also one of the few guys who still regularly produces a printed = catalog. And it's always a fine one at that. =20 I'm still not sure about how he and Bonnie will fit in the culture of = Southern Utah, but we had many conversations about it and he's certainly = game. Our loss is your gain, Kendall. - -----Original Message----- From: Kendall Gubler Sent: Jan 22, 2004 10:42 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Re:Emment Harrington As many of you know, Emmett Harrington was moving to Ivins Utah last=20 fall. I finally reached him by phone in the middle of December. Last weekend I managed to spend some time with Emmett and Bonnie(what a=20 lovely lady ). Harrington Fine Books is Located in the Coyote Gulch Art Village at=20 Kayenta, near the city of St. George(about 5 miles west ). His shop is open from 11 to 5 Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and of=20 course other days by appointment. Phone numbers 1-888-674-3555, or=20 local 435-674-3555. For those who fondly remember his shop in San Francisco, you are in for=20 a treat. His new shop is about 1and 1/2 times larger, and the layout is much nicer. His inventory is like the shop and is just great.=20 He had a few mormon items on hand and his western americana stock left = me drolling. I did purchase a first edition of Stewart H. Holbrook's "The Old Post=20 Road" The Story of the Boston Post Road. When Emmett was writing it up=20 his eyebrows raised and he asked why the purchase of a book about Boston. When I mentioned I=20 was collecting The American trails Series it was oaky. The Purchase that really tickled me was a second printing of "The Great=20 Rascal" The exploits of the amazing Ned Buntline. Not a expensive=20 book, but the dust jacket was crisp and the colors were bright and vibrant, they practically jumped of the=20 shelf and into my hands. It's nice to have the internet to browse but nothing replaces the=20 visual pleasure of being able to browse and handle the actual book. For=20 those who are looking to escape the winter blues come to Dixie and lets party. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ------------------------------------ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, = is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain = confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, = disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended = recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all = copies of the original message. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:14:23 -0800 From: "Joe Geisner" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Juanita Brooks

Lynn Pulsipher would be a better source but I hope I am of some help. The 1st edition was done in 1942, as you write, it is a light blue cloth. I believe Lynn and Hugh have both told me that there was no dj. In 1955 Juanita had it reprinted in a precise reprodution by a offset press. I have not seen a copy of this, but I believe this may be where the darker blue cloth comes in. Then in 1969 she had it reprinted in wraps. In 1973 Juanita then published "On the Ragged Edge: The Life and Times of Dudley Leavitt". This is in dj and was reprinted again in the 1880s?. An interesting side note. "On the Ragged Edge" in the photo section is a photo of "Grandma Janet" that made Juanita "whooping mad" because the publisher has told her they could repair it, and they did not. She took the tintype back to the publisher and demanding they restore it and add it to the remaining volumes to be printed. She then had the publisher give her copies which she inserted in unsold copies and she sent family copies and a letter explaining the problem.

Joe

>I have a question re Juanita Brooks' bio of Dudley Leavitt that was published in 1942. First, was there a dj? Second, there are two bindings, a light blue and dark blue, which differed somewhat in the order of the preliminary material. Is one preferable? Are they both considered true first editions? Also, was the book reprinted in both wraps and boards, or just in wraps? Who reprinted it, and when?

Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:21:09 -0800 From: "Joe Geisner" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] E-Bay article

Ken,

I don't believe you are on Mormon-Library. If you want, either Steve or I could forward your request to that list delete the Dear Bookshelfers and add Mormon-Library and your email address.

Joe

>Dear LDS Bookshelfers,

>I'm writing an article for Firsts magazine regarding fraud in the

>book trade, and especially how the rise of the internet (ebay in

>particular) has created a whole new magnitude of fraud. I myself

>have recently purchased two fakes from ebay. ABAA president Ken

>Lopez and myself wasted nine months last year (at ebay's behest)

>trying to sort thru their fraud issues to no avail. The short

>answer is they have no interest in stopping most types of fraud.

>In my opnion it will take a multi million dollar class action

>lawsuit to get their attention.

>If any of you have any book fraud stories to share, on or off the

>internet, I'd be interested in your emailing them to me.

>Ken Sanders

I have done some additional research and I have found a few things out, and become confused on other.

It seems that the 1942 printing could be in both a "light" blue and "dark" blue cloth. Some 1942 printing has a blank page after title page and then the forward, and some 1942 printings forward starts on the back side of the title page.

The 1955 reprint sometimes has a sticker from Hiller Bookbinding co. SLC, Utah. It is 115 pages, same title page, blank page then forward, all like the 1942 printing. It does seem the cloth is different. It is described as turqiouse blue, but I really don'y know what the difference in color is since I have not seen a copy.

All said, it is very possible to mistake a 1955 printing for a 1942. I bought my copy from Lynn and at the time he believed it to be a 1942 copy. Unfortunately I am no longer sure. It is the "light" blue cloth, forward starting on back side of title page and 115 pages long. My particular copy does have some family genealogy papers that pre-dates 1942 and that might indicate it is a 1942 printing, but who knows.

Joe

Find high-speed ‘net deals — comparison-shop your local providers here. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:17:57 -0700 From: Ken Sanders Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Brooks' Dudley Leavitt The quality of the printing is different between the true 1942 first=20 printings and all later printings. Joe Geisner wrote: > I have done some additional research and I have found a few things out,= =20 > and become confused on other. >=20 > It seems that the 1942 printing could be in both a "light" blue and=20 > "dark" blue cloth. Some 1942 printing has a blank page after title page= =20 > and then the forward, and some 1942 printings forward starts on the bac= k=20 > side of the title page. >=20 > The 1955 reprint sometimes has a sticker from Hiller Bookbinding co.=20 > SLC, Utah. It is 115 pages, same title page, blank page then forward,=20 > all like the 1942 printing. It does seem the cloth is different. It is=20 > described as turqiouse blue, but I really don'y know what the differenc= e=20 > in color is since I have not seen a copy. >=20 > All said, it is very possible to mistake a 1955 printing for a 1942. I=20 > bought my copy from Lynn and at the time he believed it to be a 1942=20 > copy. Unfortunately I am no longer sure. It is the "light" blue cloth,=20 > forward starting on back side of title page and 115 pages long. My=20 > particular copy does have some family genealogy papers that pre-dates=20 > 1942 and that might indicate it is a 1942 printing, but who knows. >=20 > Joe >=20 >=20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - - > Find high-speed =91net deals =97 comparison-shop your local providers h= ere.=20 > =20 > ---------------------------------------------------------- -=20 > LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - To unsubscribe= ,=20 > send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - "unsubscribe=20 > lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - For assistance,=20 > mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - --=20 Ken Sanders Ken Sanders Rare Books, ABAA 268 South 200 East Salt Lake City UT 84111 (801) 521-3819 Fax: (801) 521-2606 http://www.kensandersbooks.com ken@dreamgarden.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:34:46 -0700 From: "Curt Bench" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Brooks' Dudley Leavitt This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C3E43B.12FB5350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I talked to Anne Wilde who still runs Pioneer Press about this question. = They printed 500 copies of Dudley Leavitt for Juanita Brooks sometime = after 1970 (she'd have to consult her notes to determine exactly when, = but their first book wasn't printed until late 1969). Hiller bound them = in a turquoise-like cloth. As far as she knows this was the first and = only reprint in cloth, but she's not sure. They did a paperback reprint = a few years later. She doesn't know anything about a 1955 reprint but = says it obviously could not be Pioneer Press's book.=20 I'll check my copies at home for color, dates, etc. and post any new = info. I find. Otherwise, I hope this helps. Curt ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joe Geisner=20 To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 4:43 PM Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Brooks' Dudley Leavitt I have done some additional research and I have found a few things = out, and become confused on other. It seems that the 1942 printing could be in both a "light" blue and = "dark" blue cloth. Some 1942 printing has a blank page after title page = and then the forward, and some 1942 printings forward starts on the back = side of the title page.=20 The 1955 reprint sometimes has a sticker from Hiller Bookbinding co. = SLC, Utah. It is 115 pages, same title page, blank page then forward, = all like the 1942 printing. It does seem the cloth is different. It is = described as turqiouse blue, but I really don'y know what the difference = in color is since I have not seen a copy. All said, it is very possible to mistake a 1955 printing for a 1942. I = bought my copy from Lynn and at the time he believed it to be a 1942 = copy. Unfortunately I am no longer sure. It is the "light" blue cloth, = forward starting on back side of title page and 115 pages long. My = particular copy does have some family genealogy papers that pre-dates = 1942 and that might indicate it is a 1942 printing, but who knows. Joe - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Find high-speed 'net deals - comparison-shop your local providers = here. ---------------------------------------------------------- - = LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - To unsubscribe, = send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - "unsubscribe = lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - For assistance, = mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com"=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C3E43B.12FB5350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I talked to Anne Wilde who still = runs Pioneer=20 Press about this question. They printed 500 copies of Dudley = Leavitt for=20 Juanita Brooks sometime after 1970 (she'd have to consult her notes to = determine=20 exactly when, but their first book wasn't printed until late = 1969). Hiller=20 bound them in a turquoise-like cloth. As far as she knows this was = the=20 first and only reprint in cloth, but she's not sure. They did a = paperback=20 reprint a few years later. She doesn't know anything about a=20 1955 reprint but says it obviously could not be Pioneer = Press's=20 book.

I'll check my copies at home for color, = dates, etc.=20 and post any new info. I find. Otherwise, I hope this = helps.

Curt

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Joe = Geisner=20

To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmis= sion.com=20

Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 = 4:43=20 PM

Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] = Brooks' Dudley=20 Leavitt

I have done some additional research and I have found a few things = out, and=20 become confused on other.

It seems that the 1942 printing could be in both a = "light" blue=20 and "dark" blue cloth. Some 1942 printing has a blank page after = title=20 page and then the forward, and some 1942 printings forward = starts on=20 the back side of the title page.

The 1955 reprint sometimes has a sticker from Hiller Bookbinding co. SLC, Utah. It is 115 pages, same title = page,=20 blank page then forward, all like the 1942 printing. It does seem the = cloth is=20 different. It is described as turqiouse blue, but I really don'y know = what the=20 difference in color is since I have not seen a copy.

All said, it is very possible to = mistake a 1955=20 printing for a 1942. I bought my copy from Lynn and at the time he = believed=20 it to be a 1942 copy. Unfortunately I am no longer sure. It = is the=20 "light" blue cloth, forward starting on back side of title page and = 115 pages=20 long. My particular copy does have some family genealogy papers that = pre-dates=20 1942 and that might indicate it is a 1942 printing, but who = knows.

Joe

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