From: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-bookshelf-digest) To: lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #975 Reply-To: lds-bookshelf Sender: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-bookshelf-digest Monday, February 2 2004 Volume 01 : Number 975 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:11:12 -0800 From: "Joe Geisner" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Brooks' Dudley Leavitt
Mark,
 
Here is Lynn's email address. This is the first I had read about a 2nd edition done by the family. As I wrote before I know of a 2nd printing of "On the Ragged Edge" and it looks just like the 1st edition.
 
LYNN PULSIPHER <lynnpul@msn.com>

Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:02:37 EST From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Descent into the Maelstrom - -------------------------------1075737757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Last week, I placed half a dozen items on eBay, primarily as a way to meet new customers. And yes, I did receive a nice call from a fairly serious-sounding new collector (time will tell). What is most interesting, however - if not all that surprising - is that the only item to generate any real bidding interest is a crapola-copy of a common Deseret Alphabet Book of Mormon (selections) volume (116 pp., blue boards). In lousy condition. It has been lying on my shelves for years, where it belongs, neglected and unlisted. I emphasize the bad condition in the description, with a clear picture illustrating the fact that it is "disfigured from moisture bubbling as shown," plus other less serious defects. To emphasize to bidders that this was nothing to get excited about, I placed no reserve on the item, and stipulated an opening bid of $30. Within 24 hours, the bidding was above $100, and now, with hours remaining in the sale, it is over $200 . . . http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3583558936&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:US:1 Or if the link fails as usual, just search eBay for Item # 3583558936 Even more depressing (if you glance at my typically-retentive Grunder description with its usual excess of historical background detail, sigh) is the following e-mail question I received this morning: "I read that there are four different Deseret alphabet books. One is the entire Book of Mormon, another is approx 116 pages of lst Nephi,another a primer or something. Am I halfway correct, and if so, is your book the lst Nephi one? And if so, you state "part in Deseret alphabet". Can you expand on that a little. Thanks for your help, . . ." If I was a trifle peevish in my reply to this person, it was because I just couldn't be nice this time! What does it all mean? RickBook - -------------------------------1075737757 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Last week, I placed half a dozen items on eBay,=20= primarily as a way to meet new customers.&= nbsp; And yes, I did receive a nice call from a fairly serious-soundi= ng new collector (time will tell).

 

What is most interesting, however - if not all t= hat surprising - is that the only item to generate any real bidding int= erest is a crapola-copy of a common Deseret Alphabet Book of Mormon (selecti= ons) volume (116 pp., blue boards).  In lousy condition.  It has b= een lying on my shelves for years, where it belongs, neglected and unlisted.=

 

I emphasize the bad condition in the description= , with a clear picture illustrating the fact that it is "disfigured from moisture bubblin= g as shown,"= plus other less serious defects.

 

To emphasize to bidders that this was nothing to= get excited about, I placed no reserve on the item, and stipulated an openi= ng bid of $30.

 

Within 24 hours, the bidding was above $100, and= now, with hours remaining in the sale, it is over $200 . . .

 

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D3583558936= &ssPageName=3DADME:B:LC:US:1

 

Or if the link fails as usual, ju= st search eBay for Item # 3583558936

 

Even more depressing (if you glance at my typica= lly-retentive Grunder description with its usual excess of historical backgr= ound detail, sigh) is the following e-mail question I received this morning:=

 

 "I read that there are four different Dese= ret alphabet books.  One is the entire Book of Mormon, another is appro= x 116 pages of lst Nephi,another a primer or something.  Am I halfway c= orrect, and if so, is your book the lst Nephi one?  And if so, you stat= e "part in Deseret alphabet".  Can you expand on that a little.  T= hanks for your help, . . ."

 

 

If I was a trifle peevish in my reply to this pe= rson, it was because I just couldn't be nice this time!

 

What does it all mean?

 

RickBook

- -------------------------------1075737757-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 10:47:01 -0600 From: "Mick Reasor" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Descent into the Maelstrom =20 >What does it all mean? =20 >RickBook There's no shortage of stupid people? Mick - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 10:55:27 -0600 From: "Mick Reasor" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Book Lovers Repair Kit BOOKLOVER'S REPAIR KIT: First Aid for Home Libraries. =20 By Estelle Ellis et al. Hardbound. Published at $125.00=20 We talked about this a while back. It's a book in a box with a bunch of = useful book repair supplies. I just picked one up from Eward Hamilton at = $39.95 (early auto-birthday gift). The book, though informative, isn't as = attractive as I'd hoped, but the supplies are worth about $70. I'd = congratulate myself on the good deal if not for all the other books I = bought to take advantage of the $3.50 flat shipping rate. Mick - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 09:00:16 -0800 From: "Joe Geisner" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Descent into the Maelstrom Be grateful you have anything generating interest (which I am sure you are). Most items are not receiving any bids. I think this is for various reason's, not least of which is quality of what is being sold. Your particular presentation for this item is the best I have ever seen, this has probably helped generate the high interest. I too have a question, and I hope mine is not as poorly asked. I know nothing about the Deseret Alphabet. The two children's primers, (The Deseret First Book and The Deseret Second Book, 1868: Flake 2817-8), what is the subject manner? Is it "See Dick run. See Jane fall."? Rick, I never knew about the following four items. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this information. I would think this item is "just" the alphabet, but four pages seems a bit long for just an alphabet. What is contained in this flyer? "The Deseret Alphabet." A four-page flyer (single sheet folded to form 2 leaves, 20 cm.): Flake 2780a • "Deseret Alphabet." Wallet card 7.8 cm., displaying the thirty-eight Deseret characters and their equivalent sounds: Flake 2817 note. • "The Deseret Alphabet." Broadside 20 X 14 cm. listing the Deseret characters and English equivalents: Flake Supplement 2780b. • DESERET NEWS. Approximately 59 issues in 1859-60 contained short selections and/or the pronouncing table printed in Deseret characters. Joe >Last week, I placed half a dozen items on eBay, primarily as a way to meet >new customers. And yes, I did receive a nice call from a fairly >serious-sounding new collector (time will tell). > >What is most interesting, however - if not all that surprising - is that >the >only item to generate any real bidding interest is a crapola-copy of a >common >Deseret Alphabet Book of Mormon (selections) volume (116 pp., blue boards). >In lousy condition. It has been lying on my shelves for years, where it >belongs, neglected and unlisted. > >I emphasize the bad condition in the description, with a clear picture >illustrating the fact that it is "disfigured from moisture bubbling as >shown," plus >other less serious defects. > >To emphasize to bidders that this was nothing to get excited about, I >placed >no reserve on the item, and stipulated an opening bid of $30. > >Within 24 hours, the bidding was above $100, and now, with hours remaining >in >the sale, it is over $200 . . . > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3583558936&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:US:1 > >Or if the link fails as usual, just search eBay for Item # 3583558936 > >Even more depressing (if you glance at my typically-retentive Grunder >description with its usual excess of historical background detail, sigh) is >the >following e-mail question I received this morning: > > "I read that there are four different Deseret alphabet books. One is the >entire Book of Mormon, another is approx 116 pages of lst Nephi,another a >primer >or something. Am I halfway correct, and if so, is your book the lst Nephi >one? And if so, you state "part in Deseret alphabet". Can you expand on >that a >little. Thanks for your help, . . ." > > >If I was a trifle peevish in my reply to this person, it was because I just >couldn't be nice this time! > >What does it all mean? > >RickBook _________________________________________________________________ Find high-speed ‘net deals — comparison-shop your local providers here. https://broadband.msn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:06:16 EST From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Descent into the Maelstrom - -------------------------------1075748776 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/2/2004 12:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, rbssman@hotmail.com writes: The two children's primers, (The Deseret First Book and The Deseret Second Book, 1868: Flake 2817-8), what is the subject manner? Is it "See Dick run. See Jane fall."? Rick, I never knew about the following four items. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this information. I would think this item is "just" the alphabet, but four pages seems a bit long for just an alphabet. What is contained in this flyer? "The Deseret Alphabet." A four-page flyer (single sheet folded to form 2 leaves, 20 cm.): Flake 2780a Oh, sure, Joe - now you want USEFUL information? I only deal in superficial stuff (if I want to make a living). Actually, I don't know what the primers say. The only phrase I recall ever bothering to translate from one, twenty-some years ago, was, "Do you see the cow?" The four-page item is excruciatingly rare. In 1981, Chad Flake pulled the one in the Mormon collection at BYU, and we made a copy. Only later did I realize I copied the same side twice, thus missing whatever was on the other two pages (unless the original was that way, too, don't know). I have that copy somewhere, definitely, but can't recall where, or what it says. Always glad to enlighten RickBook - -------------------------------1075748776 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 2/2/2004 12:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, rbssman@= hotmail.com writes:
The two children's primers, (The Deseret First= Book and The Deseret Second
Book, 1868: Flake 2817-8), what is the subj= ect manner? Is it "See Dick run.
See Jane fall."?

Rick, I never k= new about the following four items. Very interesting. Thanks
for sharing= this information.

I would think this item is "just" the alphabet, bu= t four pages seems a bit
long for just an alphabet. What is contained in= this flyer?  "The Deseret
Alphabet." A four-page flyer (single she= et folded to form 2 leaves, 20 cm.):
Flake 2780a
 
Oh, sure, Joe - now you want USEFUL information?  I only deal in s= uperficial stuff (if I want to make a living).
 
Actually, I don't know what the primers say.  The only phrase I re= call ever bothering to translate from one, twenty-some years ago, was,
 
"Do you see the cow?"
 
The four-page item is excruciatingly rare.  In 1981, Chad Flake pu= lled the one in the Mormon collection at BYU, and we made a copy.  Only= later did I realize I copied the same side twice, thus missing whatever was= on the other two pages (unless the original was that way, too, don't know).=   I have that copy somewhere, definitely, but can't recall where, or wh= at it says.
 
Always glad to enlighten <grin>
 
RickBook
- -------------------------------1075748776-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:08:24 EST From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Book Lovers Repair Kit - -------------------------------1075748904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/2/2004 11:56:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, mreasor@it.cc.mn.us writes: I'd congratulate myself on the good deal if not for all the other books I bought to take advantage of the $3.50 flat shipping rate. . . . which explains why I am now the proud owner of 3 more Agatha Christie "Miss Marple" DVDs! (amazon free shipping if you buy enough). RickBook - -------------------------------1075748904 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 2/2/2004 11:56:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, mreasor@= it.cc.mn.us writes:
I'd congratulate myself on the good deal if no= t for all the other books I bought to take advantage of the $3.50 flat shipp= ing rate.
. . . which explains why I am now the proud owner of 3 more Agatha Chri= stie "Miss Marple" DVDs!  (amazon free shipping if you buy enough).
 
RickBook
- -------------------------------1075748904-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:17:11 EST From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Descent into the Maelstrom - -------------------------------1075749431 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/2/2004 11:47:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, mreasor@it.cc.mn.us writes: >What does it all mean? >RickBook There's no shortage of stupid people? Mick OK - clearly I am in non-work mode today, and am looking for excuses to stay online. My ugly damaged 116-page blue Deseret Book of Mormon volume has now risen above $300, with hours to go. Ethically, I need to revise the description immediatly, while there is still time, and add the following to the presentation: STOP! STOP! STOP! Fools! Don't throw your money away. Stopping bidding with the flock, read the description, and realize that I tried to sell better copies for twenty years in my catalogs for $60 with nary an order. Don't collect until you are ready. "All we, like sheep, have gone astray." Baaaaa, Baaaaaa, Baaaaa Or, I can just let it go, and pay for this winter's snow plowing of my driveway. Yeah, that sounds good. RickBook - -------------------------------1075749431 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 2/2/2004 11:47:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, mreasor@= it.cc.mn.us writes:
>What does it all mean?

>RickBook=

There's no shortage of stupid people?

Mick
 
OK - clearly I am in non-work mode today, and am looking for excuses to= stay online.  My ugly damaged 116-page blue Deseret Book of Mormon vol= ume has now risen above $300, with hours to go.
 
Ethically, I need to revise the description immediatly, while there is=20= still time, and add the following to the presentation:
 
 
STOP!   STOP!  STOP!
Fools!  Don't throw your money away.  Stopping= bidding with the flock, read the description, and realize that I tried to s= ell better copies for twenty years in my catalogs for $60 with nary an order= .  Don't collect until you are ready.
 
"All we, like sheep, have gone astray."  Baaaaa,&nb= sp;  Baaaaaa,   Baaaaa
 
 
 
Or, I can just let it go, and pay for this winter's snow plowing of my=20= driveway.  Yeah, that sounds good.
 
RickBook
- -------------------------------1075749431-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:08:32 GMT From: fmarotta@juno.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Descent into the Maelstrom - ----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M Content-Type: text/plain; charset = us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Having followed LDS-related books on eBay since 1999, there has been a tendency for book prices to depress in the summer (June through Labor Day) and then to rebound in the autumn through May. This has been observed by others in the past. However, I think this year was different. It seemed that prices did not pick up in the fall, but plummeted to their lowest levels. Early 20th century BoMs (pre-1920)typically have a low mark price on eBay of $60, but in the fall there were quite a few that sold for below $40. But things seem to have changed in January. I see more bids and more participation by newcomers. Which I consider to be more desirable than withering away to oblivion. Frank Marotta - ----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from mx05.lax.untd.com (mx05.lax.untd.com [10.130.24.65]) by maildeliver06.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABAB7JUNAPW252S for (sender ); Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by mx05.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABAB7JUNAMBTAVJ (sender ); Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1AnjZZ-000739-00 for lds-bookshelf-gooutt@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:17:29 -0700 Received: from [152.163.225.104] (helo=imo-r08.mx.aol.com) by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1AnjZX-000733-00 for lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:17:27 -0700 Received: from RickBook@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.12.) id f.1e5.189d8c8f (4262) for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:17:11 -0500 (EST) From: RickBook@aol.com Message-ID: <1e5.189d8c8f.2d4ffc37@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:17:11 EST Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Descent into the Maelstrom To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1075749431" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com X-ContentStamp: 9:4:4080263663 - -------------------------------1075749431 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/2/2004 11:47:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, mreasor@it.cc.mn.us writes: >What does it all mean? >RickBook There's no shortage of stupid people? Mick OK - clearly I am in non-work mode today, and am looking for excuses to stay online. My ugly damaged 116-page blue Deseret Book of Mormon volume has now risen above $300, with hours to go. Ethically, I need to revise the description immediatly, while there is still time, and add the following to the presentation: STOP! STOP! STOP! Fools! Don't throw your money away. Stopping bidding with the flock, read the description, and realize that I tried to sell better copies for twenty years in my catalogs for $60 with nary an order. Don't collect until you are ready. "All we, like sheep, have gone astray." Baaaaa, Baaaaaa, Baaaaa Or, I can just let it go, and pay for this winter's snow plowing of my driveway. Yeah, that sounds good. RickBook - -------------------------------1075749431 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 2/2/2004 11:47:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, mreasor@= it.cc.mn.us writes:
>What does it all mean?

>RickBook=

There's no shortage of stupid people?

Mick
 
OK - clearly I am in non-work mode today, and am looking for excuses to= stay online.  My ugly damaged 116-page blue Deseret Book of Mormon vol= ume has now risen above $300, with hours to go.
 
Ethically, I need to revise the description immediatly, while there is=20= still time, and add the following to the presentation:
 
 
STOP!   STOP!  STOP!
Fools!  Don't throw your money away.  Stopping= bidding with the flock, read the description, and realize that I tried to s= ell better copies for twenty years in my catalogs for $60 with nary an order= .  Don't collect until you are ready.
 
"All we, like sheep, have gone astray."  Baaaaa,&nb= sp;  Baaaaaa,   Baaaaa
 
 
 
Or, I can just let it go, and pay for this winter's snow plowing of my=20= driveway.  Yeah, that sounds good.
 
RickBook
- -------------------------------1075749431-- - ----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:46:02 -0500 From: "Hugh Stocks" Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Descent into the Maelstrom Not in answer to your cogent questions, Joe (only Rick the Erudite can handle that), but in answer to your comment that you don't know much about the Deseret Alphabet: if you can find a copy, I strongly recommend "38 Mormon Characters: A Forgotten Chapter in Western Typographic History" by Roby Wentz. This is an occasional item printed in 1978 "For the Zamorano Club Jubilee." It gives a typographer's history of the alphabet, but includes a reasonable description of the origins and use of the alphabet. Incidentally, he also mentions a gravestone in the Pioneer Cemetery in Cedar City carved in Deseret Alphabet. There are, in fact two of them; the original sandstone has weathered to illegibility, but the families have duplicated the inscriptions on granite slabs. Incidentally, Orson Pratt did in fact transliterate the whole Standard Works into DA, but only the BoM was ever published. When I was doing my research in the late 70's, I got a chance to look at the manuscripts. Also some letters OP wrote to his children in Deseret characters. (More than you really wanted to know.) The other Hugh On 2 Feb 2004 at 9:00, Joe Geisner stepped forward and proclaimed: > Be grateful you have anything generating interest (which I am sure you > are). Most items are not receiving any bids. I think this is for > various reason's, not least of which is quality of what is being sold. > Your particular presentation for this item is the best I have ever > seen, this has probably helped generate the high interest. > > I too have a question, and I hope mine is not as poorly asked. I know > nothing about the Deseret Alphabet. > > The two children's primers, (The Deseret First Book and The Deseret > Second Book, 1868: Flake 2817-8), what is the subject manner? Is it > "See Dick run. See Jane fall."? > > Rick, I never knew about the following four items. Very interesting. > Thanks for sharing this information. > > I would think this item is "just" the alphabet, but four pages seems a > bit long for just an alphabet. What is contained in this flyer? "The > Deseret Alphabet." A four-page flyer (single sheet folded to form 2 > leaves, 20 cm.): Flake 2780a > > =95 "Deseret Alphabet." Wallet card 7.8 cm., displaying the thirty-eight > Deseret characters and their equivalent sounds: Flake 2817 note. > > =95 "The Deseret Alphabet." Broadside 20 X 14 cm. listing the Deseret > characters and English equivalents: Flake Supplement 2780b. > > =95 DESERET NEWS. Approximately 59 issues in 1859-60 contained short > selections and/or the pronouncing table printed in Deseret characters. > > Joe > > >Last week, I placed half a dozen items on eBay, primarily as a way to > >meet new customers. And yes, I did receive a nice call from a fairly > >serious-sounding new collector (time will tell). > > > >What is most interesting, however - if not all that surprising - is > >that the only item to generate any real bidding interest is a > >crapola-copy of a common Deseret Alphabet Book of Mormon (selections) > >volume (116 pp., blue boards). In lousy condition. It has been lying > >on my shelves for years, where it belongs, neglected and unlisted. > > > >I emphasize the bad condition in the description, with a clear > >picture illustrating the fact that it is "disfigured from moisture > >bubbling as shown," plus other less serious defects. > > > >To emphasize to bidders that this was nothing to get excited about, I > > placed no reserve on the item, and stipulated an opening bid of $30. > > > >Within 24 hours, the bidding was above $100, and now, with hours > >remaining in the sale, it is over $200 . . . > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D3583558936&ssPageN > >ame=3DADME:B:LC:US:1 > > > >Or if the link fails as usual, just search eBay for Item # 3583558936 > > > >Even more depressing (if you glance at my typically-retentive Grunder > >description with its usual excess of historical background detail, > >sigh) is the following e-mail question I received this morning: > > > > "I read that there are four different Deseret alphabet books. One > > is the > >entire Book of Mormon, another is approx 116 pages of lst > >Nephi,another a primer or something. Am I halfway correct, and if > >so, is your book the lst Nephi one? And if so, you state "part in > >Deseret alphabet". Can you expand on that a little. Thanks for your > >help, . . ." > > > > > >If I was a trifle peevish in my reply to this person, it was because > >I just couldn't be nice this time! > > > >What does it all mean? > > > >RickBook > > _________________________________________________________________ Find > high-speed =91net deals =97 comparison-shop your local providers here. > https://broadband.msn.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - -- Hugh Stocks hstocks@fuse.net - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 21:12:46 EST From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Descent into the Maelstrom - -------------------------------1075774366 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/2/2004 8:35:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, hstocks@fuse.net writes: I strongly recommend "38 Mormon Characters: A Forgotten Chapter in Western Typographic History" by Roby Wentz. Here, here! Haven't seen it in years, but read it about 1981, and was duly impressed. Rick the Forgetful - -------------------------------1075774366 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 2/2/2004 8:35:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, hstocks@f= use.net writes:
I strongly recommend "38 Mormon Characters: A=20= Forgotten Chapter in Western Typographic History" by Roby Wentz. 
Here, here!  Haven't seen it in years, but read it about 1981, and= was duly impressed.
 
Rick the Forgetful
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