From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #178 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Thursday, March 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 178 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:23:05 -0500 From: "Keith R." Subject: (orb) (OAA) Floyd Can somone please upload the floyd remixes to the new OAA. please :) # Keith R. - keith@iamlost.com # # # "I turn sideways to the sun keep my thoughts from everyone # It's a jungle, I'm a freak # Hear me talk, but never speak" New Order - World # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:43:46 -0500 From: "Andrew Cieszkowski" Subject: (orb) trading woes Hello all, Does anybody on the list have a current e-mail address for Ernest Haynes, a long time list member? I have sent a number of queries to the address I have for him regarding a trade that I have paid for but seem not to be getting what I paid for in return. Our first transaction went without a hitch so I'm hoping this is just an oversight. Thanks for all your help, Andrew http://webhome.globalserve.net/dolega "It's like something from another world." Alex Patterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:29:25 EST From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (orb) organic96 recordings IS it possible to get in touch with the person who made the original organic 96 recordings...or any of the other live shows? Who made these? Could you please get a hold of me? Thanks, the liquid thug # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:25:47 -0600 From: "Brian M. Frick" Subject: (orb) Dipping into the Cyberworld Greetings! Well, today I found a CD-R copy of Dipping into the Cyberworld (the Woodstock set, I think) by the Orb in Strictly Discs in Madison, WI. Is it me, or is the version of Towers of Dub one of the damn best you've ever heard??? I found it incredible -- awesome sampling job on this version. If you haven't heard it yet, it's definitely a must-have. I also enjoyed the version of A huge evergrowing... that is included. Would someone mind sending me a track-time list for this CD so I can compare a REAL CD's track times to those on the CD-R? I want to see how much I got shortchanged on the track times.... Does anyone have any idea why the hell every bootleg is coming on CD-R now instead of the better-quality glass-cut CDs? They always seem to omit some of the tracks. Is someone cracking down on bootlegging? Or is someone making a killing on someone else's music? It's really pissing me off since I'm still required to pay something like $25 US to get copies of these things, which I could make on my home computer. :-( Anyone have any ideas? Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 15:11:23 -0600 From: Charlie Ludwig Subject: Re: (orb) (OAA) Floyd At 09:23 PM 3/8/99 -0500, Keith R. wrote: > >Can somone please upload the floyd remixes to the new OAA. please :) sorry folks.. to make this short and blunt, this is the deal - the floyd remixes are _not_ orb remixes, arent orb material, so they dont belong on the _orb_ audio archive. (dont get me wrong.. i have one of them, and wouldnt mind getting ahold of a few of the others on cd or mp3, but not on the oaa. the oaa is for orb stuff only) charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:35:29 EST From: Orbfile23@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) (OAA) Floyd Skidoo here, I think it's funny that, Dr LX has all of you fooled into thinking it's not him that's did those Floyd remix CD's. Of course he would have to deny doing them, due to copyright issues. Listen to the "Money" remix on the 'Dark Side' trance remix. A part of LFC is used. It seems like something LX would do.....I would if I had thought of it first! Anyone have a copy of the trance remix of "Meddle". It's by far the best one. My friend has it and I would like one of my own. Even a CD-R, if the owner does the recording. (I saw a CD-R of it in the store, but it had pops and skips..for $29.99 RIP-OFF CITY!!!) Skidoo 'out' Now on: Poster Children A New World Record # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: loweaj@webtv.net (Anthony J. Lowe) Subject: (orb) floyd on tape....er....what the hells a tape again? I have the floyd remixes on that old-fashioned format that they used way back in the 80's....what was it called again? Oh yeah, TAPES. I have no cd burner myself, but could perhaps ask a friend of mine who does have one. Now at this point I have no clue how much cdr's cost but would be willing to charge what ever my cost is plus shiping to get them out. Remember now.....I don't know how much this will cost me, so if I end up giveing a price your not happy with please dont flame me over it. Peace, Love, & Fuzzy kittens, anthony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:07:24 -0600 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orb) (OAA) Floyd > the floyd remixes are _not_ orb remixes, arent orb material, so they dont > belong on the _orb_ audio archive. (dont get me wrong.. i have one of > them, and wouldnt mind getting ahold of a few of the others on cd or mp3, > but not on the oaa. the oaa is for orb stuff only) > And you know this.............how? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:22:55 -0500 From: "Keith R." Subject: RE: (orb) (OAA) Floyd >the oaa is for orb stuff only fine. if anyone has the files mp3'ed already....and don't mind uploading them i'll host them for a few weeks. (2 perhaps) now....i am not sure it the "OAA" is the same as mocker.org but last i checked prodigy videos and dennis leary don't count as orb material either, do they? if the oaa and mocker.org are different sites then my bad. # Keith R. - blue@iamlost.com # # # "I turn sideways to the sun keep my thoughts from everyone # It's a jungle, I'm a freak # Hear me talk, but never speak" New Order - World # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 16:38:55 -0600 From: "Brian M. Frick" Subject: Re: (orb) Dipping into the Cyberworld Anyone in Madison: Don't go there. The bastards won't take it back. "No returns on imports." Bullshit. Pissed, Brian > You should take that cd back right away. You can get the original, > non-CDR of Dipping... for $20 or so at www.ab-cd.com, a good source for > such things. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:35:20 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Siev=E4nen?=" Subject: (orb) U.F.Orb US 2-CD limited edition I am looking for "U.F.Orb" US 2-CD limited edition in mint condition, = and i bid $55 for it. So if you have two copies or know of someone = willing to sell msg me private on my adress below. - -- "DON'T LEAVE EARTH WITHOUT ONE" Christian G Sievanen / Dwb (Dr. Winston O'Boogie) Christian.Sievanen@Telia.com http://w1.331.telia.com/~u33108693/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 15:36:36 -0800 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Dipping into the Cyberworld Last things first... "Brian M. Frick" wrote: > > Anyone in Madison: Don't go there. The bastards won't take it back. "No > returns on imports." Bullshit.> > Greetings! If you paid by credit card, contest the charge, as you received defective/fraudulent merchandise. If you paid by check, you can stop payment, for the same reason, but that could get uglier. You may also want to tell the store that if you don't get your money back, you will be contacting the RIAA anti-piracy/fraud hotline (talk to the manager on that one, as the flunkies may not be aware of how ugly that can get, if the RIAA decides to get cranky). Then do it. The RIAA is skittish about CD-Rs right now, and is almost certainly looking for someone to make an example of. Finally, get *loud* in the store (when it is busy) about how they are fraudulently selling CD-Rs of bootlegs and charging "full" price for them. > Does anyone have any idea why the hell every bootleg is coming on CD-R now > instead of the better-quality glass-cut CDs? They always seem to omit some > of the tracks. Is someone cracking down on bootlegging? Or is someone > making a killing on someone else's music? It's really pissing me off since > I'm still required to pay something like $25 US to get copies of these > things, which I could make on my home computer. :-( Anyone have any ideas? As long as people keep meekly buying them, they will keep trying to sell them. Don't buy them, and get vocally cranky when you get stuck with one anyway. I don't have too much against bootlegs, but this CD-R-selling thing has got to be nipped in the bud, especially at "full" price. Bulk CD-Rs cost less than $3 to produce, including jewel case and inserts...$25-$30 is completely ridiculous. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:05:03 -0600 (CST) From: Joseph Jun Subject: (orb) New Orleans, North Fla., and Atlanta Please help with any info on good record stores in these areas, if you can. E-mail me privately. Thanks everyone. - -Joseph - ---------------------------------------------------------------- |Joseph Jun | | |Loomis Lab. of Physics | --"These nerds are a threat | |1110 W. Green St. | to our way of life."-- | |Univ. of Ill. Urbana-Champaign | | - ---------------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:17:55 +1000 From: Ian Thompson Subject: (orb) Weatherall/Orb for trade Hi, I've got the following items for trade. Andrew Weatherall (all CD singles) - ----------------------------------------- Sabres Of Paradise 'Wilmot' (incl 'Seige Refrain', 'Wilmot Meets Lord Scruffage' + 'Wilmot Edit') K-Klass 'Let Me Show You' (incl. '1,2,3 (Sabres Of Paradise mix)') Galliano 'Skunk Funk' (incl. 'Skunk Funk (Cabin Fever Mix)' by Andrew Weatherall) Airstream 'Follow Through' (incl. 'Follow Through (Nine O'Clock Drop Mix)' by Andrew Weatherall) Fundamental 'Mother India' (incl. 'Mother India (Sabres At Dawn Mix)' + 2 Moody Boyz mixes) Stereo MC's 'Ground Level' (incl. 'Everything (Everything Grooves Pt 2)' by Sabres of Paradise) Chemical Brothers 'Leave Home' (incl. 'Leave Home (Sabres Of Paradise Mix)' + 2 Underworld mixes) That Petrol Emotion 'Abandon' (incl. 'Abandon (Boy's Own Mix)' by Andy Weatherall & Terry Farley) Howie B 'Angels Go Bald: Too' (incl 'Angels Go Bald: Too (Swordsmen Mix)') The Orb (all 12" vinyl) - -------------------------- Apollo XI 'Peace In The Middle East' Prong 'Rude Awakening Remixes' (2 mixes 'Subtle As A Velvet Doc Martin - Left' & 'Subtle As A Velvet Doc Martin - - Left' by A. Paterson/A. Hughes/T. Fehlmann) What I'm after - ---------------- Original Electro on 12" Model 500 - 'The Chase' UR - 'Sonic', 'Waveform', Elimination', 'Meteor Shower', 'The Aztec Mystic', 'Undetectible', 'Ambush' World Power Alliance - 'The Seawolf' Drexciya - 'The Return of Drexciya' Kraftwerk - 'Tour de France' Bloodsugar - 'Levels' Lino Squares - 'The Role Of Linoleum' Flowered Up - 'Weatherall's Weekender' Sabres Of Paradise - 'Ysaebud' Dust Brothers - 'Song To The Siren with Sabres of Paradise Mixes' New Order - 'Regret - The Weatherall Mixes' Two Lone Swordmen - 'The Third Mission', 'The Tenth Mission', 'Two Lone Swordsmen & A Being' Jockeyslut 5th Anniversary CD Spiritualised - 'Come Together' (with TLS mix) Yellow Magic Orchestra - 'Technodon Remixes II' but I'm open to all offers... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:16:33 EST From: Orbfile23@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Weatherall/Orb for trade skidoo here, In a message dated 3/9/99 7:18:17 PM Central Standard Time, biffbang@bit.net.au writes: > Airstream 'Follow Through' (incl. 'Follow > Through (Nine O'Clock Drop Mix)' (mix)by Andrew Weatherall) This mix is also enginnered by Thrash a.k.a. Kris Weston. I have it on 12 inch and slowed down to 33 1/3 is so groovy!!!!!!! Good track! Skidoo 'out' Now on: Assassin (Right Time to Absorb Mix) from the ORAA. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:02:16 EST From: Heccubuss@aol.com Subject: (orb) Secret Track Greetings to all you fellow ORB fans! I have a question: What is the name of the secret track on 'ORBlivion'? If you can answer this I would be eternally grateful. Thanks! ~Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:01:34 -0800 From: neptune@slip.net (rachel) Subject: Re: (orb) Dipping into the Cyberworld >Finally, get *loud* in the store (when it is busy) about how they are >fraudulently selling CD-Rs of bootlegs and charging "full" price for >them. I've said it before and I'll say it again - Isolation Tank records is notorious for this (and I had one hell of a time getting my money back - even after they had the cd in hand). Lake Shore Record Exchange is constantly selling blatant rip off copies of the Patterns & Textures video at full price, too. I wouldn't endorse purchasing from either of these places. On a positive note, if you're looking for a genuine copy of Dipping Into the Cyberworld, http://www.ab-cd.com had them not too long ago... (mine's most certainly not a cd-r). =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Re: Floyd > I think it's funny that, Dr LX has all of you fooled into thinking > it's not him that's did those Floyd remix CD's. Of course he would have to > deny doing them, due to copyright issues. Listen to the "Money" remix on the > 'Dark Side' trance remix. A part of LFC is used. It seems like something LX > would do..... I disagree for this very reason. I think sampling the most popular song, or any Orb song is too easy. Also, if you listen to some of the others, they are very redundant, sometimes unchanging for 2-3 minutes (Animals comes to mind). I think if LX did do them, he might reuse Orb samples here or there, but definately would have done a MUCH better job. I have yet to hear 1 LX remix that didn't impress me, whereas some of the Floyd mixes are downright bland. Gavin btw, I have 8 out of 9 of these on cd. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:07:29 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Siev=E4nen?=" Subject: SV: (orb) Dipping into the Cyberworld Why are you fussin' and fighting about that record??....for crying out = loud IT IS A BOOTLEG!!! from the beginning so...que!... Christian. D:L:E:W:O # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:51:19 -0800 (PST) From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) Bootleg-cdr vs pressed cds > Does anyone have any idea why the hell every bootleg is coming on CD-R now > instead of the better-quality glass-cut CDs? They always seem to omit some > of the tracks. Is someone cracking down on bootlegging? Or is someone > making a killing on someone else's music? Record stores are now trying to eliminaate the middleman so they can pass the savings outo themselves. Most bootleg discs cost a record store between $8-$12 per disc, and mark them up anywhere from $20 to $35 each! (Anyone shop at Evil Clown? RIPOFF!) Now that the owners either have their own means of burning cdrs or have a "discount" cdr dealer, they earn more return off of them. The time difference is simple: pressed cd can hold upto 79:58, whereas cdr can hold a max of 74:10. 80 minute cdrs are not yet commercially available, and are very expensive, so the choice for the disc burners is simple... Another factor is alot of the old distributors have been shut down, so the sources are fewer now than before. Since 1996, Italy, once a haven for bootleg lables, no longer allows bootleg manufacturers in their country, which eliminated some of the biggest companies around (KTS, Primadonna, Great Dane, Alley Kat, Hawk, Mind The Magic, Live Storm...) The Canadian government is now taxing recordable media and making a recompense for recording artists that "are victims" of cdr piracy, but we all know the difference between "Piracy" And "Bootlegs" right? Only true fans buy bootlegs, and typically they own all the liscensed recordings by such artists, and if the record lable is unwilling to cater to the fans... But $25.00 is no bargin for cdrs Gavin (who thinks the Orb shoud rerelease all bootlegs as their own on a fanclub basis) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:55:58 -0800 (PST) From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) organic96 recordings - ---LiquidW@aol.com wrote: > > > IS it possible to get in touch with the person who made the original organic > 96 recordings...or any of the other live shows? Who made these? Could you > please get a hold of me? KROQ 106.7 FM Pasadena/Los Angeles. They were taping the whole thing, and they broadcasted the ORB, Orbital, Underworld live, and played a recording of Meat Beat Manifesto. That's all I know. Gavin _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:54:42 +0000 From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orb) Bootleg-cdr vs pressed cds At 19:51 9.3.1999 -0800, Gavin Miller wrote: > The time difference is simple: pressed cd can hold upto 79:58, >whereas cdr can hold a max of 74:10. 80 minute cdrs are not yet >commercially available, and are very expensive, so the choice for the >disc burners is simple... yes and no. some brands of cdr's can be overburned at up to ca. 78 minutes per cd (I have some Pioneer silver cdrs which can handle about 77:30 or so) and 80min cds are increasing in numbers out there, as well as going down in price. you should be able to get bulk 80min cdrs for about... 1.5-2x 74min cds. and those can be overburned too quite well, I saw somewhere a time of up to ca. 84-85 minutes :o Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1 Free Your Mind - Remove the Brain :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:05:43 -0000 From: CC701410 Subject: RE: (orb) Bootleg-cdr vs pressed cds > >yes and no. some brands of cdr's can be overburned at up to ca. 78 minutes >per cd (I have some Pioneer silver cdrs which can handle about 77:30 or so) >and 80min cds are increasing in numbers out there, as well as going down in >price. you should be able to get bulk 80min cdrs for about... 1.5-2x 74min >cds. and those can be overburned too quite well, I saw somewhere a time of >up to ca. 84-85 minutes :o On the subject of 80 minute CD-R's, they are very easily obtainable, at least in Britain. A friend of mine with a writer quite often buys them for music etc, and they only cost him about 20p more than 74 minute discs each. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:30:59 +0100 From: nd Subject: (orb) early ORB FA I have a cd with two ORB early sessions up at http://www.geocities.com:80/Paris/Rue/1087/idmauct.htm Thanks for looking nd ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// http://www.tinet.ch/table table homepage - swiss idm and multimedia http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/1087/MUSICA.HTM records for sale/trade etc. WELEASE WODGER! ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:28:06 -0600 From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) Dipping into the Cyberworld Why are you fussin' and fighting about that record??....for crying out loud IT IS A BOOTLEG!!! from the beginning so...que!... Christian. D:L:E:W:O It's hard to justify selling cheap ass CDRs with shit graphics printed = on someones home printer when you expect that you are buying a production quality CD. If they are going to sell CDRs then they should list them = as such.=20 Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Siev=E4nen [SMTP:Christian.Sievanen@Telia.Com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 9:07 PM > To: orb@xmission.com; rachel > Subject: SV: (orb) Dipping into the Cyberworld >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:14:02 -0800 (PST) From: Gregor Menasian Subject: RE: (orb) Bootleg-cdr vs pressed cds On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, CC701410 wrote: > >yes and no. some brands of cdr's can be overburned at up to ca. 78 minutes > >per cd (I have some Pioneer silver cdrs which can handle about 77:30 or so) > >and 80min cds are increasing in numbers out there, as well as going down in > >price. you should be able to get bulk 80min cdrs for about... 1.5-2x 74min > >cds. and those can be overburned too quite well, I saw somewhere a time of > >up to ca. 84-85 minutes :o Well, a cheapskate record store that's already trying to rip you off isn't going to go out of their way to get extra length CDRs at extra cost now, are they? > On the subject of 80 minute CD-R's, they are very easily obtainable, at > least in Britain. A friend of mine with a writer quite often buys them > for music etc, and they only cost him about 20p more than 74 minute > discs each. Wow!!! They're very rare in the US, and the only place I know that sells them charges around $20 each!!! Does your friend's source do mail-order to the US? - -Gregor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:43:55 +0100 From: nd Subject: Re: (orb) early ORB FA At 11,41 10.03.99 -0500, you wrote: > > Just wanted to let you know that this cd, "The OOBE Adventure" is >still in print, and can be obtained from many online stores. I got mine >last week at tower. :) Thanks. I am auctioning the stuff as I have no idea what the going price is for it, I am not expecting to get silly amounts for it anyway. Maybe the way I presented the orb disc on my webpage sounds a bit too "rare stuff-y", but it's not intended to be like that, it's just that if I put on only the tracklisting it might have appeared a bit obscure. Hope I haven't been misleading on that, apoligies in that case to the orb list especially :-) Cheers and thanks for the info nd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:58:04 +0000 From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: RE: (orb) Bootleg-cdr vs pressed cds At 10:14 10.3.1999 -0800, Gregor Menasian wrote: > >Wow!!! They're very rare in the US, and the only place I know that sells >them charges around $20 each!!! Does your friend's source do mail-order >to the US? $20?? that's a friggin ripoff! the most expensive 80min blanks I've seen in some shop in usa (forgot the url) was about $4 for Traxdata blanks. same place sold unbranded 80min from some other mfg for $1.90 or something like that. you definitely need to go shop around :) Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1 Free Your Mind - Remove the Brain :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:23:03 -0600 From: "Brian M. Frick" Subject: (orb) Strictly Discs, my comments, and more. Fellow orbsters, I just wanted to make it perfectly clear that today I went to the store which had sold me the CD-R of Dipping into the Cyberworld. They gave me an in-store credit, after a bit of a discussion regarding the selling of CD-Rs. I feel that they were very helpful and honest in the return of the CD, even though I know that they really didn't want to do the return. The resolution of the issue was to my satisfaction. I want to rescind every negative comment I made about the store, and recommend them as a great source for rare music. Just be careful when you buy something to make sure that it is NOT a CD-R, if you are the kind of person who cares as much as I do. I personally am a bit embarrassed by my comments, and think that I may have over-reacted in my initial mail regarding the store. I really do like the store, and patronize it as often as I can. They have provided me with many good albums. Furthermore, they do have a copy of Ultra Rare Trax (real CD) for sale if anyone is interested. I already have two copies, so I thought I'd leave it for someone else. Thanks!! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:56:07 +0100 From: "Dwb" Subject: (orb) Regarding CD-R Copy's Hi all ultra dippers! You have made me curious...Is there a certain way to tell CD-R copy's = apart from the orginal cut's for example the "Dipping Into The = Cyberworld" the one with the ugly prick on the cover wearing somekind of = cyber glasses...the cover seams proffesional..and comes with a = transparent cd cover. by Trance music(Trance1) total time 72:26 =20 - ---------------------------------------- `don't leave earth whithout one=B4 Dwb (Dr. Winston O'Boogie) Sandoz@telia.com http://w1.331.telia.com/~u33108693/index.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:46:17 -0700 From: "Dwb" Subject: (orb) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 03:34:22 +0100 Hi Again Orbed net-addicts. Anyone on the list know where to find the fonts used on orb's U.F.orb = and orblivion? - ---------------------------------------------- `don't leave earth whithout one=B4 Dwb (Dr. Winston O'Boogie) Sandoz@telia.com http://w1.331.telia.com/~u33108693/index.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:42:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Regarding CD-R Copy's > You have made me curious...Is there a certain way to tell CD-R copy's apart from the orginal cut's for example the "Dipping Into The Cyberworld" the one with the ugly prick on the cover wearing somekind of cyber glasses...the cover seams proffesional..and comes with a transparent cd cover. by Trance music(Trance1) total time 72:26 The easiest way to tell is that a normal cd has the normla white/colorless bottom (not including the reflected rainbows), while CD-R's usually have either gold, blue, green or some other colorful bottom color. Plus they don't have any artwork silkscreened on to the CD itself. Usually just a brand name and some kind of lines to write upon with a sharpee. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:44:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 03:34:22 +0100 I think they have them on www.theorb.com > Anyone on the list know where to find the fonts used on orb's U.F.orb and > orblivion? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:39:25 -0800 (PST) From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) Regarding CD-R Copy's they don't have any artwork silkscreened on to the CD itself. > Usually just a brand name and some kind of lines to write upon with a > sharpee. > I have a CDr labeler. I print lables up, and affix them to the discs. Much more professional looking than sharpie lableing Gavin _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:05:28 +0000 From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orb) Strictly Discs, my comments, and more. At 18:23 10.3.1999 -0600, Brian M. Frick wrote: >Furthermore, they do have a copy of Ultra Rare Trax (real CD) for sale if >anyone is interested. I already have two copies, so I thought I'd leave it >for someone else. cool! how much is it being sold for? I'm interested in getting my hands on one, but I'm a bit skint right now (so I can't compete against overinflated prices :) Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1 Free Your Mind - Remove the Brain :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:43:57 -0600 From: ".rr" Subject: (orb) orb.fonts > > Anyone on the list know where to find the fonts used on orb's U.F.orb and > > orblivion? I think the one on theorb.com is ABTU era, and only a 'look alike'... The "Orblivion" font is Cyberotica, designed by Barry Deck (who is nearly godlike, imo). You can find it here: http://www.3st.com/cyberotica.html I know my u.f.orb poster uses the ever-popular Template Gothic (Barry Deck again) along the top, "orb: mission 92" but as for the other, I have no idea. Could be a font DR designed. Hope this helps. .rr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:05:15 EST5EDT From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Trade, anyone? Ok all.... I have a copy of Live 93...which I completely hate. Yeah, I know, blasphemy, and all that.... I just don't care for live recordings.... (The Cramps and Black Sabbath are the two exceptions....) Anyway, what I propose is this: This is a 2-cd set. Would anyone be willing to trade a copy of the 2cd UFOff for this? OR Would anyone be willing to trade a copy of Brian Eno's Music for Airports for it? (Yeah, I know, it's still in print...but so is Live 93....) This cd is taking up valuable space on my cd tower.... In the meantime, something which may or may not be of interest to pass along: I was listening to the Kris & Dave's You Are Evil (But I Like You) mix of Asylum the other day (I'm getting it to you soon, Nick!), and my wife and baby daughter were in the room. I look at my wife (who's holding the baby), and then I look at my daughter, who is not quite 3 months old. Well, she (my daughter) is bobbing her head up and down to the rhythm, in perfect sync. I thought that was pretty neat, so I mentioned it to my wife. My wife claims that she does that all the time to the Orb (and other similar music). A future "raver," do you think? ;-) Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:10:55 -0700 From: "K.C." Subject: (orb) lx behind the tables I was wondering what LX's dj sets are like. What style does he spin. How does he compare with the big names out there? Does he come to the States to dj? - -Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:28:33 -0700 From: "K.C." Subject: (orb) assylum 7" Where can I find the Asylum 7" single on vinyl? - -Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:35:30 +0100 From: Smiley Subject: Re: (orb) assylum 7" >Where can I find the Asylum 7" single on vinyl? you can't, as it wasn't released as a 7". only as 2xcds and a 12". the 7" version is on both cd singles, but not the 12", afair.. cheers. - --- Smiley spares list: http://come.to/SmileyWeb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:11:51 -0800 (PST) From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) assylum 7" - ---Smiley wrote: > > > >Where can I find the Asylum 7" single on vinyl? > > you can't, as it wasn't released as a 7". only as 2xcds and a 12". > > the 7" version is on both cd singles, but not the 12", afair.. So how can it be considered a 7" mix? Gavin _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #178 *************************