From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #312 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Wednesday, April 19 2000 Volume 02 : Number 312 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:20:56 EDT From: GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com Subject: (orb) non Orb:Digweed show, Im jealous! Went to the Chesterfield Labelland party in Nighttown, Rotterdam last friday. 4 hour set by mr John Digweed. Excellent set on a perfect soundsystem. At the end of the set he played a remix of Mory Kante's 'Ye ke Ye ke', does anybody have more info on this record. RJ >>Lucky stiff, to be albe to see that show! I live in the US, but have not be able to catch any of his shows! Im a huge Sasha & Digweed freak! Bet you dance the entire 4 hours! I sure would have! >>PEACE Guru DJ Smithmix # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:46:43 +0100 From: "Mark Humphrey" Subject: (orb) Cheerio - for a while Hi everyone, I've been a member of these lists for about four years now. But I'm about to take a year out to check out the southern hemisphere. So I'm gonna have to un-subscribe for a while. I'll miss the regular banter and I'm glad to have been a very occasional part of it. And of course I've had the pleasure of trading with and meeting some of you. In particular, a big Yo! to Smiley and Erik G (still using those books?). Anyway, I'd better go and sort out what the play list for my walkman is going to be. Decisions Decisions eh? Cheers Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:04:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Jan Bijleveld Subject: (orb) NON ORB: Mory Kante Hardfloor Mix All of you thanks for the info. I downloaded the track yesterday. Napster rulez. RJ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:40:28 +0200 From: Volker Tripp Subject: (orb) Your fave remixes Aloha! Since The Orb do a lot of remix work *for other people* I thought it might be a nice idea to have a little poll on your faves in that field. Let all listees know which ones you like best and why. I'll say my fave is Gong - A Php's Advice (Gong With The Wind) Originally it's weird 70s artrock-type stuff (feat. Steve Hillage and Miquette Giraudy, btw) and it's fun to hear how The Orb turn it into something like Pomme Fritz. The maintain the atmosphere of the original song but add a lot of details and make it way more colourful. Cya, Volker. - -- - -= Info, song-snippets, CD orders: http://www.nogacity.de/oddspot - -= Full songs: http://www.mp3.de/home/oddjob - -= Full songs: http://www.besonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o0i42757,00.html - -= Email: mailto:oddjob@nogacity.de - -= Email: mailto:tripp@uni-muenster.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:15:21 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?eric_=B3?= Subject: Re: (orb) Your fave remixes > Since The Orb do a lot of remix work *for other people* I thought it > might be a nice idea to have a little poll on your faves in that field. > Let all listees know which ones you like best and why. not having a whole lot of exposure to the Orb's Remixes ( i don't even have Autie Aubrey's Excursions YET) - i'd still like to put in my vote for the Lx's work on the System 7 track "Davy Jones' Locker" - the whole "how do you sniff?" thing is just pure genius, however, since this is not really a remix i guess i'm a bit off topic. but since i just learned what 'Davy Jones' Locker' really is ... i guess it's fresh on my mind... - -eric³ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : web developer . pixel-pusher : http://www.gographics.com : http://users.drak.net/zenlab ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:12:02 -0400 From: =?Windows-1252?Q?eric_=B3?= Subject: Re: (orb) Andy (Still not OUR Andy Hughes) > > There's a site for Andy Hughes (the DJ) > > http://www.andyhughes.com Andy Hughes (the dj) lives in my town - Orlando, fl - and for the longest F*ing time I thought he was apart of the Orb... that is of course till *this list* enlightened me. I have since met *this* Andy and he is a really cool guy (in spite of his non-Orb relations) - those of you who like old school and classic house might like to check out his style - the man has 16,000 records starting from late 70s early 80s --- a massive music collector and not a bad DJ at all - but of course not our genius engineer of the U(K)S.S. Orbernautical Dreamscape..... - -eric³ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : web developer . pixel-pusher : http://www.gographics.com : http://users.drak.net/zenlab ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:32:01 +0100 From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (orb) Your fave remixes Might have to be Zodiac Youth with 'Fast Forward The Future' - I will almost certainly change my mind tomorrow though. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:41:11 -0600 From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (orb) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:39:39 +0100 I seem to get all mails from the Orb list twice! Presumably I have done something silly, could you tell me to trim it down to one mail. Many thanks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:45:05 -0700 From: rachel Subject: Re: (orb) Your fave remixes i'd have to say its a toss-up between the Mindless Drug Hoover Remix (just cause that song itself is so damn hilarious - exactly the sense of humour i expect from the orb) and the Cranberries Remix - they took an annoying song and kept all the good bits (barely anything), added some clever samples, lots of textures and viola! a masterpiece! =) rachel - --> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design 415-452-8940 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:57:42 -0600 From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (orb) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:56:07 +0100 whoops, sorry. that wasn't supposed to get to the list # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:04:24 +0100 From: "mark lewis" Subject: (orb) fave remixes/sample info favourite remix would have to be "ploy-battersea is an isle of mud remix-underground resistance" sounds even better if you mix "spastik-plastikman" in from just past halfway, all the way to the end, then mix that into the mix of assassin that appears on the live '93 lp. i played it at a house party 4 years ago and everyone thought it was mental. whilst on this subject does anyone know what the song at the end is? i'd love a copy if only i knew what it is?? mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:37:40 EDT From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (orb) php sadonia In a message dated 17/04/2000 5:42:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tripp@uni-muenster.de writes: << my fave is Gong - A Php's Advice (Gong With The Wind) Originally it's weird 70s artrock-type stuff (feat. Steve Hillage and Miquette Giraudy, btw) and it's fun to hear how The Orb turn it into something like Pomme Fritz. >> This gentlemen speaks my mind exactly i love gong ANd the orb....and the remix DOES sounds like a track lef off pomme fritz peace my friends. Any way i can get some kind soul to get me some format of cydonia???been spinning records(cds ,mp3s) at parties on a regular basis ..would love to blow some people away. Cant wait to hear terminus....and becase of smileys raves...jam on yr honey LiquidW www.alienoutpost.com Anyone out there care to submit artwork , etc ,ANYTHING to my page? email me here , or at liquidw@alienoutpost.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:24:00 -0600 From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Your fave remixes I'd have to say my favorite Orb remix is "Beach Blanket Bimbo Land" remix of MBM's "Radio Babylon". I don't think there was actually any element here still remaining from the original perhaps for the "Babylon" sample that appears mixed throughout the whole song. I'd also say I enjoyed the Orb's mix of "The Perfect Drug" after getting sick to death of the original, for it's total new Pomme Fritz styling and it's disjointed feeling. But that's just what I think... :) - -Dave Kiernan, the master Liquid X. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:03:31 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Meat Beat Manifesto If you tell about all the best remixes,don``t forget about the roedelius-Drive Remix from LX and the whole record,do anyone trade the Meat Beat Manifesto Remix,I``m searching that since 1 year?! __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:15:18 +0200 From: Volker Tripp Subject: Re: (orb) Your fave remixes Hiho! Christoph Kluxen wrote: > I did never gear from that,where is it on? > It's on the Gong - You remixed (Phase 1&2) album which holds (wouldn't you have guessed) remixes of the songs on Gong's "You" album. Besides the Orb there are mixes by Youth, The Shamen, Astralasia, Total Eclipse, System 7, Graham Massey and loads more. It's a double CD, btw, and I think it's still available (in Germany, at least) since it's from 1997. The Orb's comment to their remix is "We almost wiped the tapes." while everybody else just seems to be praising the impact Gong's music has had on their lives and creative output. Rachel is right, the Orb do have their very own style of humour :-) Volker. - -- - -= Info, song-snippets, CD orders: http://www.nogacity.de/oddspot - -= Full songs: http://www.mp3.de/home/oddjob - -= Full songs: http://www.besonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o0i42757,00.html - -= Email: mailto:oddjob@nogacity.de - -= Email: mailto:tripp@uni-muenster.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:05:06 +0200 From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Aarrrgh... http://www.universalmusic.fr When you type The Orb, you have a nice page with infos (NOT the release date of Cydonia, though), but the band is listed as Lx and Youth ! Shame... And on top of that, you have Lx and Andy photos. One good point : you can order Orbus Terrarrum at a cheap price... JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:31:34 +0200 From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) My Favorite Orb remixes Wir : So and slow it grows (Orb in Atlas mix) Tangerine Dream : Towards the unknown region (Mandarin Cream mix) Sun Electric : Red Summer (Orb mix) JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:32:26 +0200 From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) And also... my other favorite remix The 2 remixes they did for Rick Wright... JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:27:12 EDT From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) my orb CD list up i made a list of the rare stuff, its pretty much complete and ill put the vinyl and other bands real soon!! i want to trade for CDRs i dont have and originals check out my list and let me know. http://members.aol.com/ovation15/theorb.html tom v (the gemini killer) http://fade.to/tomsplace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:03:52 +0200 From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Ok, ok, I'm a little bit obsessed... I found the 12" Christophe told us : Glasgow Underground GU56 Produced by Phil Kelsey and Andy Hughes. But is it OUR Andy Hughes ?` I listened to the record, it's a deep house thing, quite nice, but doesnt have the trademark of Andy. But hey... Maybe he wanted to do something different, right ? So I phoned to Glasgow Underground, and the guy I had told me it's the other Andy Hughes, not the guy from The Orb. So now you know... I hope the guy really understood my question... :) JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:24:30 EDT From: GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com Subject: (orb) Your fave remixes Since The Orb do a lot of remix work *for other people* I thought it might be a nice idea to have a little poll on your faves in that field. Let all listees know which ones you like best and why. >>>Ok, Ill bite, THE WAITER (BON APPETIT REMIX)-Gary Numan tribute- I cant explain why I love it, just listen to it! FAST FORWARD THE FUTURE (BUCKET & BONG MIX)- I Love the beat in this, and "I need you, I need you" sample, its so studio 54. The early version Cold cut & alex did on Kiss FM is also one of my favorite Orb tracks HIGHER THAN THE SUN (HIGHER THAN THE KITE MIX)- It just sounds so much like an Orb track, and this was the first Orb related tune I ever heard. Just an awesome dance track! Bought this EP and Adventures beyound the ultraworld. and an Orb freak soon after, and always. Peace, Guru DJ Smithmix # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:50:04 -0400 From: "Pascal V. Calarco" Subject: (orb) mad professor on tour (non-Orb) Looks like the Mad Professor is on tour again in the states this year. He's playing D.C. on May 3rd at The Garage -- anybody from DC/MD/VA want to go? I caught him back in '98 in Pittsburgh -- what a great show. Lotsa great dub, with more hard jungle than I would have expected . . . - pascal # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:37:05 -0500 From: life kid Subject: Re: (orb) Your fave remixes on 9/17/98 4:40 AM, Volker Tripp spoke these words: > Aloha! =A1hola! =20 > Since The Orb do a lot of remix work *for other people* I thought it > might be a nice idea to have a little poll on your faves in that field. > Let all listees know which ones you like best and why. auntie aubrey's "excursions" are incredible. great little compilation if i do say so m'self. favorite track off of it would have to be the "higher tha= n the sun" (higher than a kite mix) that they did with primal scream. laterz. - --=20 perez : len=20 email : lmperez@uiuc.edu uiuc : graphic design site : www.students.uiuc.edu/~lmperez now playing : =B5-ziq_lunatic harness "Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit next to a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity." - albert einstein=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:30:56 +0800 From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) more ellesdesia orb mix in here: - ---------- ARTIST and TITLE: Various Artists ; Apollo LABEL, CODE and YEAR: Apollo ; AMB 926 LP ; 1993 ELLESDESIA'S COMMENTS: Devine Ambient House Compilation , 10 Tracks incl Electrotete " I love you - Orb Remix " CONDITION and FORMAT: Mint ; 2x12 inch PRICE: 21.74 USD ; 49.90 Dutch guilders - ---------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:28:24 +0800 From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) sun electric the sun electric with orb mix: - ---------- ARTIST and TITLE: Sun Electric ; O'locco - Mixes LABEL, CODE and YEAR: R&S ; RS 93023 ; 1993 ELLESDESIA'S COMMENTS: Kama Sutra Mix + Space Therapy Mix + Orbital Therapy Part 1 , Part 2 , Part 3 , Part4 CONDITION, FORMAT and PRICE: Mint ; 12 inch ; 10.85 USD ; 24.90 Dutch guilders - ---------- from www.ellesdesia.nl tell marcus I sent you :) DJ KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:47:12 PDT From: "Bryan Robertson" Subject: Re: (orb) Your fave remixes Personally I like P.W.E.I.- Home (Home Sweet Home Orb Remix). I never heard the original, but the Orb's version with that tripped out dub is visceral as hell. B ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:42:03 +0200 From: marcolphus Subject: (orb) OAA down again? Something wrong? Or is it usual technical stuff? - -- == drugs are so advanced ======= http://members.tripod.com/markolf == == complete text-based discographies of Fluke, Leftfield & Voo Voo == # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:06:35 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?eric_=B3?= Subject: Re: (orb) Ok, ok, I'm a little bit obsessed... > I found the 12" Christophe told us : Glasgow Underground GU56 Produced by > Phil Kelsey and Andy Hughes. > But is it OUR Andy Hughes ?` > I listened to the record, it's a deep house thing, quite nice, but doesnt > have the trademark of Andy. But hey... Maybe he wanted to do something > different, right ? deep house sounds like it might be the Orlando, DJ 'Andy' - however, now with a *third* Andy Hughes floating around doing electronic music. who can be sure? - -eric³ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : web developer . pixel-pusher : http://www.gographics.com : http://users.drak.net/zenlab ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:09:03 -0400 From: =?Windows-1252?Q?eric_=B3?= Subject: Re: (orb) Your fave remixes I heard the ORb did a remix of The Irresistible Force's 'Nepalese Bliss' - does anyone off hand know on which album this was found? I have the original and it's ripe for *the treatment* a la: LX & co. and is it still in Print? - -eric³ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : web developer . pixel-pusher : http://www.gographics.com : http://users.drak.net/zenlab ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 07:02:03 -0700 From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) OAA down again? Thanks for the heads up....didn't realize it was down. It's up now. 24.1.153.3 orb/orb late, *MoonDogg* - -----Original Message----- Something wrong? Or is it usual technical stuff? - -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:43:55 -0500 From: "Lokay, Joe" Subject: (orb) MIDI Anyone have any Orb or related artist MIDI files to trade? Thanks - Lokaytion np: WE: Square Root of -1 cued up: Coil - Hellraiser Theme Remixes PS.. for all you DJs.. if you're really into creative DJing then you will like the innovative record sets put out by DJ Olive of WE. The 3 pack of vinyl comes full of snippets and short samples to mix together. You sculpt the sounds together. Made for 3 decks (2 work fine though), the pallete is on the vinyl and you paint the picture. Also check out WE's newest release (May 9): Decentertainment. http://qrot.net/we/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:50:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "He's watching 24 hours of rubbish!" Subject: (orb) Off-topic: Underdog IN Massive Attack? Anyone know? Hi all. Sorry this seems off-topic, but I've struggled in vain to find any news on this topic and can't seem to. I figure that someone on here must know the truth about this... After Mushroom left Massive Attack it seemed it would be just 3D and Daddy G in the group, but then these fellows Harris and Davidge started showing up in writing credits; and NOW there's a rumor that Underdog has, in fact, joined the group as well. His name is Trevor Jackson, I think? I wouldn't give the rumor much credence except for the fact that I just saw an advert for the "American Psycho" soundtrack and it has a Cure track remixed by: "Underdog OF Massive Attack"! Interesting... Anyone able to verify this? Pyenapple # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #312 *************************