From: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com (orb-digest) To: orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orb-digest V2 #327 Reply-To: orb-digest Sender: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes orb-digest Saturday, June 10 2000 Volume 02 : Number 327 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 16:27:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) andy gone?! > This would seem to mean that indeed he's no longer an Orb. I'm interested to > learn what's next for him and The Orb both. if he really is no longer in the orb, this is horrible. it means the death of the orb as we know it. andy is integral to the orb, the recognition he gets is SUCKY compared to his part in the orb (plus he's a cool guy). I'd like to know the percentage of work Mr Paterson actually does. this stinks. I wonder what the story is...if Alex had to go and break things off like he did w/ Cauty, Youth, Thrash. is there a pattern here? is someone grumpy & can't get along w/ people? at the very least, we should be able to hear andy's work on cydonia, whenever it comes out. this also means that orb production will slow to a grinding halt. will alex be able to do music on his own? hopefully thomas fehlmann is still sticking around or the orbs in trouble. just hoping this isn't true ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 13:36:49 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) andy gone?! Anthony Bryan wrote: > > > This would seem to mean that indeed he's no longer an Orb. I'm interested > to > > learn what's next for him and The Orb both. > > if he really is no longer in the orb, this is horrible. it means the > death of the orb as we know it. andy is integral to the orb, the > recognition he gets is SUCKY compared to his part in the orb (plus he's a > cool guy). I'd like to know the percentage of work Mr Paterson actually > does. > > this stinks. I wonder what the story is...if Alex had to go and break > things off like he did w/ Cauty, Youth, Thrash. is there a pattern here? > is someone grumpy & can't get along w/ people? Ummm...I'd imagine that the rumored "break-up" of the Orb at this time has a lot more to do with a lack of income (you know, the album that has been on the shelf for over a year), than with actual conflicts within the band. On a related note; the Orb has always been a bit of a rotating roster of collaborators; even if this split is fractious, the Orb will almost certainly continue to spin... Chris np: The Fibonaccis - Repressed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:41:53 GMT From: "Dirty Hooka" Subject: Re: (orb) andy gone?! I can't say much except that I felt much the same way when Thrash left and things turned out great. I must agree that Andy is an integral part of the orb as we know it, but that does not mean that another evolution of the orb would not be just as awe-inspiring. ANYWAY, what I really want to know is where can I audition for his job????????? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:52:14 -0500 From: Ryan Platte Subject: Re: (orb) andy gone?! > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3043237934_1130061_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit replying to Ant: > if he really is no longer in the orb, this...means the > death of the orb as we know it. it seems to me that LX likes to change things up. all over the interviews, including the Auntie Aubrey booklet, he's talking about cycles and change and that. i doubt Andy was under the illusion that this was a permanent gig. all this to say, per'aps the death of the orb as we know it is precisely the point. > I'd like to know the percentage of work Mr Paterson actually > does. as a sound-sculpting musician, i know that there's the work...and then there's the music. i loooove Andy's dubs, ideas, colors, and flavors, but as Thomas Fehlmann has said, it's not an orb track until LX comes in and puts his special touch in. listening to LX's work on others' albums bears this out (Fehlmann's Flowing album and System 7's Power of Seven come to mind). Andy has a special talent, but orbience is LX's domain. what *I* really want to know is how many pennies I have to save to get Andy behind our mix desk! ;-) or maybe I don't want to know the figure! drumming my fingers waiting on that fat recording contract to come through, ryan - --MS_Mac_OE_3043237934_1130061_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: (orb) andy gone?! replying to Ant:

> if he really is no longer in the orb, this...means the<= BR> > death of the orb as we know it.

it seems to me that LX likes to change things up. all over the interviews, = including the Auntie Aubrey booklet, he's talking about cycles and change an= d that. i doubt Andy was under the illusion that this was a permanent gig. a= ll this to say, per'aps the death of the orb as we know it is precisely the = point.

> I'd like to know the percentage of work Mr Paterson act= ually
> does.

as a sound-sculpting musician, i know that there's the work...and then ther= e's the music. i loooove Andy's dubs, ideas, colors, and flavors, but as Tho= mas Fehlmann has said, it's not an orb track until LX comes in and puts his = special touch in. listening to LX's work on others' albums bears this out (F= ehlmann's Flowing album and System 7's Power of Seven come to mind). Andy ha= s a special talent, but orbience is LX's domain.

what *I* really want to know is how many pennies I have to save to get Andy= behind our mix desk!

;-)

or maybe I don't want to know the figure!

drumming my fingers waiting on that fat recording contract to come through,=
ryan - --MS_Mac_OE_3043237934_1130061_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:57:55 +0200 From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Andy is gone : FACT ! Andy (by email) told me to keep this quiet for a while, but he hadn't spoke with LX in 9 months. It seems that the disagreements were about the management issues. I'm not sure that the next Orb album will be Cydonia, as we "know" it (according to the CDRs mentioned before), because it seems that Simon Phillips (ex : Semisonic remix, recent concerts) or Guy Pratt (ex : Randall and Hopkirk track) replaced Andy in the Orb. And it seems that LX and co are working again on the next album (or remixing it). But Andy strikes back ! He did gigs in the Viper Room and will be in San Francisco tomorrow ! The Orb galaxy is growing... Can't wait for the first Andy Hughes album... :) "The nicest guy in the world" : cool title, uh ? JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:24:50 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Andy is gone : FACT ! derrien@club-internet.fr wrote: > > Andy (by email) told me to keep this quiet for a while, but he hadn't spoke > with LX in 9 months. > > It seems that the disagreements were about the management issues. Well, there you go. :/ > I'm not sure that the next Orb album will be Cydonia, as we "know" it > (according to the CDRs mentioned before), because it seems that Simon > Phillips (ex : Semisonic remix, recent concerts) or Guy Pratt (ex : Randall > and Hopkirk track) replaced Andy in the Orb. Hrm. As some one else pointed out, I felt the same way when Thrash left as I do now, but, I'm sure it will work out. > And it seems that LX and co are working again on the next album (or > remixing it). Again? Alex is going to get as bad as the Utah Saints. ;) > But Andy strikes back ! He did gigs in the Viper Room and will be in San > Francisco tomorrow ! > The Orb galaxy is growing... > Can't wait for the first Andy Hughes album... :) > "The nicest guy in the world" : cool title, uh ? I dunno...something about the "headbangingest guy in ambient dance" might be appropriate, too. :P Chris np: Spectre - Spectre Overseas (orbjects, overseas & oceans) (not really, but it *is* the next track on the disc) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:36:51 -0500 (CDT) From: James Hill Subject: Re: (orb) andy gone?! > grinding halt. will alex be able to do music on his own? hopefully thomas > fehlmann is still sticking around or the orbs in trouble. don't know for sure but I though I remember the orbulletin saying that the orb is currently lx which would not include either andy or thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:07:16 -0500 From: Ryan Platte Subject: Re: (orb) andy gone?! > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3043246037_1617456_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit james said: > ...hopefully thomas > fehlmann is still sticking around... ...I though I remember the orbulletin saying that the orb is currently lx which would not include either andy or thomas but thomas has always been one-foot-in, one-foot-out of the orb, since ultraworld, so that may or may not mean anything... ryan - --MS_Mac_OE_3043246037_1617456_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: (orb) andy gone?! james said:

> ...hopefully thomas
> fehlmann is still sticking around...

...I though I remember the orbulletin saying that the
orb is currently lx which would not include either andy or thomas

but thomas has always been one-foot-in, one-foot-out of t= he orb, since ultraworld, so that may or may not mean anything...

ryan
 - --MS_Mac_OE_3043246037_1617456_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:10:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Digweed @ Metro Well, I wasn't planning on going, but i'll look into it. I can't promise anything though. I'm not too familiar with Sasha & Digweed, even though I keep hearing their names on a regular basis. Gavin - --- Robert Jan Bijleveld wrote: > I also hope you will go there and tape it. Maybe > you'll hear the remix > Digweed did for the Orb;) > > Hey! Sorry for the off topic but since the whole > > orb world seems to be > > falling apart I just thought I'd let all the Chicago > > land and vicinity > > people know that John Digweed will be at the Metro > > on Friday. Starts at > > 11pm and costs $20. Its rumored that Sasha will be > > DJ'ing with him. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 06:21:00 -0600 From: orbette Subject: (orb) GROUP, A PROPOSITION Okay kids, here is the deal. I have been named music director for an upcoming film on the party culture and want to know if there are any up and coming artists who would be willing to trade their music for its exposure in the film/soundtrack. We are looking for all forms of electronic music from atmospheric/incidental to music specially for the dance scenes. If you think you might be interested, contact me PRIVATELY. Also, please do not respond unless you are TOTALLY serious about this, as my time with respect to this matter is also being donated and I want to utilize to its fullest. Peace, orbette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:34:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ketley Subject: (orb) Andy Hughes To all, So Andy left because of management issues. Did the phrase "get me off this *+%=A3@~#! record label so I can release=20 some music" ever get mentioned. Perhaps it was the only way? I am a bit worried about Cydonia getting remixed. The snippets of real=20 audio placed on the web some time back sounded superb - potentially the=20 best orb stuff I've heard. Here's hoping the remixing enhances the=20 quality... ...and Andy gets some stuff released - signing on the dole is a pain in=20 the arse and makes you feel about this tall.=20 Paul K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:08:46 EDT From: XDUB5017@aol.com Subject: (orb) Presenting Reflector for your movie track Where can i submit a Promo CD? Thanks! - -------- BIOGRAPHY: Reflector Reflector: A person or thing that reflects; especially a surface, object, etc. that reflects light, sound, heat or the like, as a piece of glass or metal, highly polished and usually concave, which reflects and directs radient energy as beams of light, soundwaves, etc., in a desired direction. The electronic innovator and creator, Reflector has been making music since his early teens. Now at age twenty-two, the alias "Reflector" has become synonymous with electronic music. It is music with an entirely different sound, shape, and feel than the rest of the crowd. Elements of progressive house, techno and trance are combined to create Reflector's unique style. It's techno but upbeat, not hardcore. It's trance but expressive, not stiff. His first full-length album, Wings, Water, and Light reflects both. "The Wings, Water, and Light project is supposed to be a dramatic approach to electronic music," he says. Fifteen tracks make up the album. The melodies are sometimes hard-hitting, sometimes dreamy, but always unconforming. Reflector's music has many different influences, as well as several varying constituents, one of which being the robotic vocoded voices expertly incorporated into several of his original works. Reflector began composing music, as well as creating it, in what has become his home studio. He bought a keyboard, a sequencer for his computer, and soon was up and running. "At first I was remaking other people's songs and no one seemed to care," he says. "Then I started composing my own stuff, and that was when I started getting a response." His early work was very experimental, receiving some positive response. But at that time his music was difficult to grab. It wasn't until Reflector began collaborating with a producer in San Francisco, that things came together and a style completely his own began to take shape. "Before that, my music was kind of 'anything goes,'" he says. "It was the producer who taught me the ways of songwriting and production." Even though he's conscious of structure, Reflector has always tried to maintain a personal feel with his music. "I try to add emotions to my songs," he says. "I want listeners to feel what I'm feeling, what I was feeling when I composed the song." The majority of Reflector's compositions are the result of his own inspirations, which goes to explain the different, distinctive nature of his sound. It's never just a beat. "That's why a lot of dance music labels are struggling", he says. "They just go off with an eight-beat measure and loop it. They don't actually put themselves into the music." Promoting his music has been hard work. It involved a lot of planning, putting together promotional materials and, of course, playing shows. Reflector has played at clubs, schools, arenas and even coffee shops in the Bay Area. To promote his music, Reflector formed his own record label, Deezzer Records. Hit track "Kid Generator", was the featured trance song on mp3.com in August 1999. His full length album has been featured and reviewed on such popular internet websites Raveworld.net, and Techno Online. Recording new material keeps him busy too. "It's hard work," he says. "People don't realize what goes on behind the scenes to make all this work." Music actually runs in the family. Reflector's mother was a singer and his grandfather was an opera singer. Maybe that's part of why Reflector's music has it's particular feel. "It's not hardcore at all," he says. "With me you get more groove and melodies. You're going to get structure and variety in each song. My thing is to move you." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:14:21 EDT From: XDUB5017@aol.com Subject: (orb) Reflector's website For more information on Reflector: the website as follows can be visited: www.reflectornow.com or the record label www.deezzer.com Good luck with this project! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:27:22 -0800 From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: (orb) Greg Hunter I just wanted to jump on and say that Greg Hunter is the Master, and, I think, a real unsung hero as far as contributions to the Orb. I've been collecting every mix of his that I can find, and they're genius to a one. Anyone have any info on what he's doing these days? Did he do any full-length albums aside from the Subsurfing one? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:45:44 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) (Orb) Andy gone The hearing continues as follows......... Keep your heads up that Andy left the Orb,I think it was the right time for a change,they were brilliant,thank them for flying,and for the future I would be glad to hear their new stuff,without the thought that anything is missing,but I``m sure LX will turn it right and change the rules. Yes,the new man,I don``t know too much about Guy Pratt or the other one,can anyone tell something about them?Besides wasn``t DJ Lewis always a man in the background???? My favourite would be David Bickley,perhaps they could change it into a very modern kind of downbeat ambient,but that``s just a thought. Will the cydonia release come out now or what????*************************** CY,Christoph Now on:Roger Eno&Lol Hammond Damage __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 23:24:41 -0500 From: lysergic maximus Subject: (orb) OT: St. Louis Question greetings all and apologies for the all too frequent crosspost, Can anyone recommend decent music stores in St. Louis, especially one that would carry eclectic vinyl? used would be great but new is cool as well. thanks to all for the time. oh, reason of course, is that i have a trip planned to st. louis next week... any suggestions for things you would not want to miss while visiting st. louis are welcome as well. lysergic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:14:50 -0400 From: Dance S Paterson Subject: Re: (orb) OT: St. Louis Question Its been a wile but there was an electric veinal store in the U City Loop. If you are in downtown its a ride but I got some good stuff from there. Good luck. bro ps, I read the rules, im not sure if I can mention my web site, can I? > greetings all and apologies for the all too frequent crosspost, > > Can anyone recommend decent music stores in St. Louis, especially > one that > would carry eclectic vinyl? used would be great but new is cool as > well. > thanks to all for the time. > > oh, reason of course, is that i have a trip planned to st. louis > next > week... any suggestions for things you would not want to miss while > visiting st. louis are welcome as well. > > lysergic > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 23:44:18 +0100 From: Chris Basford Subject: (orb) Once More (Bedrock Mix) Just noticed that there's a remix by Bedrock (John Digweed and Nick Muir) of "Once More" by The Orb included as part of Sasha and Digweed's new Northern Exposure mix album, "Communicate" which is out in the next couple of weeks over here in the UK... Mmm... Digweed has also done a remix for Underworld. Chris Basford E-mail : chris_basford@btinternet.com ICQ : 41233978 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 01:57:02 +0200 From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) So what happened to the Andy Hughes gig ? Tell us all, Rachel :) JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 17:14:09 -0700 From: rachel Subject: (orb) Andy in SF hey all! At JC's request, a brief rundown of last night: had a fantastic and intimate show with Andy & Fil - to quote the orb "the music was fantastic" - orby sounding in some ways, but very much Andy in others. there was a nice progression from danceable ambient to head-banging trance, and all of it was tasty! Andy claimed some of the tracks were ones he did with LX for cydonia, but which ones they were, I'm not sure (as I haven't heard the album). Andy's a terrifically nice guy, and hung around after the show to chat with folks. We had a great time tooling around SF before they had to depart! I, for on, couldn't think of a more perfect gig - wish you all could've been there! (and definitely catch him on his solo journey - its VERY good stuff!!!) more later, once i've recovered! =) rach # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:26:53 -0500 From: Andrew Krieg Subject: (orb) Ayumi Hamasaki So what was the final verdict on this remix? Has there been confirmation as to whether or not it is LX and company? Ayumi Hamasaki Monochrome [Orb 7" Vocal Mix] Remixed by Orb @Lab, Berlin 8 4 2000 [Orb is FT and Satan at The Monochrome Seti Sessions] on "Ayu-mi-x II version US+EU" My ears tell me no. Could it be we now have "The Orb" and "Orb"? What about this one? d-kiku / Primitive....(Orbtij mix) in V.A. / Grand Cross 1999 (POCH-1818) Remixed by Orb & C-pij The lack of "The" makes me suspicious, and I'd rather not track it down unless it's been verified. - -- ========================================================================== =__ __ __ _ __ _= Andrew Krieg - Software Engineering Consultant = =_ __ _ __ _ _ __= E-mail: krieg@execpc.com = =_ _ _ ___= WWW: http://www.execpc.com/~krieg = =_ __ _ __ _ _ __========================================================= =_ __ _ __ _ __ _= Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee - Astoroth = ========================================================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of orb-digest V2 #327 *************************