From: owner-posdis-digest@lists.xmission.com (posdis-digest) To: posdis-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: posdis-digest V1 #24 Reply-To: posdis-digest Sender: owner-posdis-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-posdis-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk posdis-digest Saturday, June 12 2004 Volume 01 : Number 024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 19:11:39 -0500 From: "Michael Brock" Subject: (posdis) gemeinshaftesgefuhl This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C44F1E.C2C30370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit PDers- Just had a counseling session (first session), married couple, and in the course of the session wife says about husband (in response to my question about what you love about each other) that he has a strong sense of community and our responsibility in that community, that this is like his world view. Husband happens to be German, so I think, aha! Gemeinshaftesgefuhl, so I turn to him and ask, What does gemeinshaftesgefuhl mean, and he smiles (for the first time in the session, I might add; he really doesn’t want to be here, but that’s another issue) in recognition (of my perfect pronunciation, no doubt) and he says, It means what she was just talking about; gemeinshaftes means “what you have in common,” or “community,” and gefuhl means “what you feel.” It’s a combined word, he says, meaning something like having a strong feeling for the general good of the community. And I’m thinking, Yeah, I knew that, Jane taught me that, cool stuff. I LOVE this counseling world, something new every day! On the down side, I didn’t win him over yet, but give me time. - -Mike - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C44F1E.C2C30370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

PDers-

 

Just had a counseling session (first session), married couple, = and in the course of the session wife says about husband (in response to my = question about what you love about each other) that he has a strong sense of = community and our responsibility in that community, that this is like his world view.  Husband happens to = be German, so I think, aha! Gemeinshaftesgefuhl, so I turn to him and ask, = What does gemeinshaftesgefuhl mean, and he smiles (for the first time in the session, I might add; he really doesn’t want to be here, but = that’s another issue) in recognition (of my perfect pronunciation, no doubt) and he = says, It means what she was just talking about; gemeinshaftes means “what = you have in common,” or “community,” and gefuhl means “what = you feel.”  It’s a combined word, he = says, meaning something like having a strong feeling for the general good of the = community.

 

And I’m thinking, Yeah, I knew that, Jane taught me that, = cool stuff.

 

I LOVE this counseling world, something new every = day!

 

On the down side, I didn’t win him over yet, but give me = time.

 

-Mike

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Mike,
Jane has not taught me that one yet! I'm going to have to hear it in=20 person.....looks like just a bunch of letters to me!
Teresa LaSala
Denville, NJ
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Go Mike!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Thanks for sharing!!
 
 
Kelly P.
- -------------------------------1086925073-- - - To unsubscribe to posdis, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe posdis" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:00:55 +0800 From: "Leslie Ho" Subject: Re: (posdis) gemeinshaftesgefuhl This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C44FEE.CE076B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good luck, Michael. I am sure you will!!! Leslie=20 (Singapore) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Brock=20 To: PosdisGeneral (E-mail)=20 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 8:11 AM Subject: (posdis) gemeinshaftesgefuhl PDers- =20 Just had a counseling session (first session), married couple, and in = the course of the session wife says about husband (in response to my = question about what you love about each other) that he has a strong = sense of community and our responsibility in that community, that this = is like his world view. Husband happens to be German, so I think, aha! = Gemeinshaftesgefuhl, so I turn to him and ask, What does = gemeinshaftesgefuhl mean, and he smiles (for the first time in the = session, I might add; he really doesn't want to be here, but that's = another issue) in recognition (of my perfect pronunciation, no doubt) = and he says, It means what she was just talking about; gemeinshaftes = means "what you have in common," or "community," and gefuhl means "what = you feel." It's a combined word, he says, meaning something like having = a strong feeling for the general good of the community. =20 And I'm thinking, Yeah, I knew that, Jane taught me that, cool stuff. =20 I LOVE this counseling world, something new every day! =20 On the down side, I didn't win him over yet, but give me time. =20 -Mike - ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C44FEE.CE076B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good luck, Michael. I am sure you=20 will!!!
Leslie
(Singapore)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michael = Brock=20
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 = 8:11 AM
Subject: (posdis)=20 gemeinshaftesgefuhl

PDers-

 

Just=20 had a counseling session (first session), married couple, and in the = course of=20 the session wife says about husband (in response to my question about = what you=20 love about each other) that he has a strong sense of community and our = responsibility in that community, that this is like his world = view.  Husband happens to be = German, so I=20 think, aha! Gemeinshaftesgefuhl, so I turn to him and ask, What does=20 gemeinshaftesgefuhl mean, and he smiles (for the first time in the = session, I=20 might add; he really doesn=92t want to be here, but that=92s another = issue) in=20 recognition (of my perfect pronunciation, no doubt) and he says, It = means what=20 she was just talking about; gemeinshaftes means =93what you have in = common,=94 or=20 =93community,=94 and gefuhl means =93what you feel.=94  It=92s a combined word, he = says, meaning=20 something like having a strong feeling for the general good of the=20 community.

 

And=20 I=92m thinking, Yeah, I knew that, Jane taught me that, cool=20 stuff.

 

I LOVE=20 this counseling world, something new every=20 day!

 

On the=20 down side, I didn=92t win him over yet, but give me=20 time.

 

-Mike

- ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C44FEE.CE076B60-- - - To unsubscribe to posdis, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe posdis" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 09:00:43 -0400 From: "Lea Anne Nelson" Subject: (posdis) Let me know your thoughts This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4505B.BE33D350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks! I'm missing Think Tank this year, but thought I'd tap into your = wonderful minds and insights via cyberspace. Back in 1996 I started a degree in counseling. The program was = "Counselor Education" and students can pursue school counseling or an = LPC (licensed professional counselor). Back then my goal was LPC. My = last class was in 1998 just before my first child was born. In the two = years I completed 34 credits out of a 51 credit program. I'm ready to = complete my studies (12 credits will be internship) so I just have two = classes to go! I'm now considering becoming a school counselor instead of an LPC (for = now).=20 The question to the group .... if you are a school counselor what have = been your experiences? What age group do you work with? =20 I realize there is some administrivia that goes with the position -- = testing, etc., but I'm hopeful that there are opportunities to reach the = kids, teachers and parents with counseling techniques and Positive = Discipline classes. Your insight will really help me make a decision on = the path I choose to follow -- no pressure ;) -- ... just give me your = honest impressions of the field. I'm off to the beach for a week. I look forward to reading all your = responses when I return! Happy summer. Best regards, --Lea Anne Lea Anne Nelson The Parent Training Center www.parenttrainingcenter.com LeaAnne@parenttrainingcenter.com 757-410-0617 - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4505B.BE33D350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks!
 
I'm missing Think Tank = this year,=20 but thought I'd tap into your wonderful minds and insights via=20 cyberspace.
 
Back in 1996 I started = a degree in=20 counseling.  The program was "Counselor Education" and students can = pursue=20 school counseling or an LPC (licensed professional counselor).  = Back then=20 my goal was LPC.  My last class was in 1998 just before my first = child was=20 born.  In the two years I completed 34 credits out of a 51 credit=20 program.  I'm ready to complete my studies (12 credits will be = internship)=20 so I just have two classes to go!
 
I'm now considering = becoming a=20 school counselor instead of an LPC (for now).
 
The question to the = group .... if=20 you are a school counselor what have been your experiences?  What = age group=20 do you work with? 
 
I realize there is = some=20 administrivia that goes with the position -- testing, etc., but I'm = hopeful that=20 there are opportunities to reach the kids, teachers and parents with = counseling=20 techniques and Positive Discipline classes.  Your insight will = really help=20 me make a decision on the path I choose to follow -- no pressure = ;) =20 - --  ... just give me your honest impressions of the = field.
 
I'm off to the beach = for a=20 week.  I look forward to reading all your responses when I = return! =20 Happy summer.
 
Best = regards,
  --Lea=20 Anne
Lea Anne Nelson
The Parent Training Center
www.parenttrainingcenter.com=
LeaAnne@parenttrainingce= nter.com
757-410-0617
- ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4505B.BE33D350-- - - To unsubscribe to posdis, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe posdis" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 08:16:29 -0500 From: "Michael Brock" Subject: (posdis) RE: (certifiedpda) Let me know your thoughts This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C45055.90FE3E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lea Anne- I’m changing careers after 33 years in education, 26 of them in administration and the last two as counselor as well as principal. In August I start my new counseling career fulltime doing school counseling (middle school level) at a Dallas private school and adult counseling part-time through a Dallas agency. I do enjoy working with kids, but my past two years’ experience working with adult issues has convinced me that that is where my heart is. That’s what my life speaks, in the words of Parker Palmer. The school counseling I’ve done the past two years and will be doing this coming year is entirely behavioral/social (as opposed to testing/academic/etc.) The testing/academic side of counseling is important stuff but it doesn’t appeal to me at all. Unfortunately, what I hear from counselor buds who work in schools is that they have very little time to actually work with the kids, what with all the paper work, testing, and meetings they have to attend. This appears to be a widespread frustration, at least in Texas. Like yourself, I want to get in the classroom and do class meetings (and teach the teachers to do class meetings), work with the kids in small groups (I’ve done small group counseling these past two years for children of divorced families), and one-on-one counseling. I’ll also be doing counseling for their parents and most likely parenting classes. Tons of room for PD applications in all that. I anticipate loving my job next year but I know that what I will love the most is the work with adults, both the parenting work with the students’ parents and the agency work. In a year, I will have my full license (LPC), after which I will get into private practice, even though I may stay with the school on a part-time basis (I do like working with kids, it will help me grow my client base, and there’s that insurance thing I always need to be thinking about). I hope that information helps, Lea Anne. Best wishes for whatever direction you take. And please continue to keep us posted. - -Mike Brock - -----Original Message----- From: owner-certifiedpda@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-certifiedpda@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Lea Anne Nelson Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:01 AM To: posdis@lists.xmission.com; certifiedpda@lists.xmission.com Subject: (certifiedpda) Let me know your thoughts Hi folks! I'm missing Think Tank this year, but thought I'd tap into your wonderful minds and insights via cyberspace. Back in 1996 I started a degree in counseling. The program was "Counselor Education" and students can pursue school counseling or an LPC (licensed professional counselor). Back then my goal was LPC. My last class was in 1998 just before my first child was born. In the two years I completed 34 credits out of a 51 credit program. I'm ready to complete my studies (12 credits will be internship) so I just have two classes to go! I'm now considering becoming a school counselor instead of an LPC (for now). The question to the group .... if you are a school counselor what have been your experiences? What age group do you work with? I realize there is some administrivia that goes with the position -- testing, etc., but I'm hopeful that there are opportunities to reach the kids, teachers and parents with counseling techniques and Positive Discipline classes. Your insight will really help me make a decision on the path I choose to follow -- no pressure ;) -- ... just give me your honest impressions of the field. I'm off to the beach for a week. I look forward to reading all your responses when I return! Happy summer. Best regards, --Lea Anne Lea Anne Nelson The Parent Training Center www.parenttrainingcenter.com LeaAnne@parenttrainingcenter.com 757-410-0617 - ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C45055.90FE3E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Le= a Anne-

 

I&= #8217;m changing careers after 33 years in education, 26 of them in = administration and the last two as counselor as well as principal.  In August I start my new counseling career fulltime = doing school counseling (middle school level) at a Dallas private school and = adult counseling part-time through a Dallas agency.  I do enjoy working with kids, but my past two = years’ experience working with adult issues has convinced me that that is where my heart = is.  That’s what my life = speaks, in the words of Parker Palmer.

 

Th= e school counseling I’ve done the past two years and will be doing this = coming year is entirely behavioral/social (as opposed to testing/academic/etc.)  The testing/academic side of = counseling is important stuff but it doesn’t appeal to me at all.  Unfortunately, what I hear = from counselor buds who work in schools is that they have very little time to actually = work with the kids, what with all the paper work, testing, and meetings they = have to attend. This appears to be a widespread frustration, at least in = Texas.

 

Li= ke yourself, I want to get in the classroom and do class meetings (and = teach the teachers to do class meetings), work with the kids in small groups = (I’ve done small group counseling these past two years for children of divorced = families), and one-on-one counseling.  = I’ll also be doing counseling for their parents and most likely parenting classes.  Tons of room for = PD applications in all that.

 

I = anticipate loving my job next year but I know that what I will love the most is the = work with adults, both the parenting work with the students’ parents = and the agency work.  In a year, I will = have my full license (LPC), after which I will get into private practice, even = though I may stay with the school on a part-time basis (I do like working with = kids, it will help me grow my client base, and there’s that insurance thing = I always need to be thinking about).

 

I = hope that information helps, Lea Anne.  Best wishes for whatever direction you take.  And please continue to keep us = posted.

 

-M= ike Brock

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-certifiedpda@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-certifiedpda@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Lea Anne Nelson
Sent: Saturday, June 12, = 2004 8:01 AM
To: = posdis@lists.xmission.com; certifiedpda@lists.xmission.com
Subject: (certifiedpda) = Let me know your thoughts

 

Hi folks!

 <= /p>

I'm missing Think Tank this year, but thought I'd tap into = your wonderful minds and insights via cyberspace.<= /p>

 <= /p>

Back in 1996 I started a degree in counseling.  The = program was "Counselor Education" and students can pursue school = counseling or an LPC (licensed professional counselor).  Back then my goal was LPC.  My last class was in 1998 just before my first child was = born.  In the two years I completed 34 credits out of a 51 credit = program.  I'm ready to complete my studies (12 credits will be internship) so I just = have two classes to go!

 <= /p>

I'm now considering becoming a school counselor instead of = an LPC (for now).

 <= /p>

The question to the group .... if you are a school counselor = what have been your experiences?  What age group do you work with?  = <= /p>

 <= /p>

I realize there is some administrivia that goes with the = position - -- testing, etc., but I'm hopeful that there are opportunities to reach = the kids, teachers and parents with counseling techniques and Positive = Discipline classes.  Your insight will really help me make a decision on the = path I choose to follow -- no pressure ;)  --  ... just give me your = honest impressions of the field.<= /p>

 <= /p>

I'm off to the beach for a week.  I look forward to = reading all your responses when I return!  Happy summer.<= /p>

 <= /p>

Best regards,
  --Lea Anne
Lea Anne Nelson
The Parent Training Center
www.parenttrainingcenter.com=
LeaAnne@parenttrainingce= nter.com
757-410-0617

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