From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #445 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Saturday, June 9 2001 Volume 02 : Number 445 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:00:38 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: [TEXAS-NET] VPC Vindicates Lott Findings (fwd) From: Bruce Chesley Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:48:16 -0400 Subject: {slick-d} [TEXAS-NET] VPC Vindicates Lott Findings Gotta LOVE irony;-))))) Bruce Chesley Truth is a terrible cross to bear. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.". Thomas Paine Treason for $$$: ALL "pro 2A" orgs. Less Guns, More Crimes VPC Vindicates Lott Findings by David Codrea, GunTruths Correspondent Washington DC- In a stunning development, the Violence Policy Center (VPC) released Hispanics and Firearms Violence on May 8, a study that puts the anti-defense collective squarely on the side of gun rights defenders. Also attending the Capitol Hill press conference were U.S. Representatives Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-CA), Grace Napolitano (D-CA), and Hilda Solis (D-CA), as well as representatives of leading national Hispanic organizations, who joined Karen Brock, MPH, VPC health policy analyst and study author in endorsing the startling findings that less guns result in more crime. "Hispanics own guns at rates lower than the general population," states the study's introduction. "Hispanics are far less likely than blacks or whites to own guns," the study maintains. "Only 11 percent of Hispanics own guns, compared to 16 percent of blacks, and 27 percent of whites." "Hispanics are more likely than those in other racial / ethnic groups to be victims of violent crimes involving strangers," the study continues. "77.4 percent of Hispanics were murdered with a firearm-the highest percentage for any racial or ethnic group... Handguns were used in 69.5 percent of all Hispanic homicides-once again the highest of any racial or ethnic group." In addition, the VPC study also demonstrates how more guns result in fewer gun-related injuries, a further reason to encourage responsible firearm ownership. "That year [1997], Hispanics had a total firearm injury (fatal and nonfatal) rate 2.8 times that of whites," it states. "This information is further supported by a 1996 New England Journal of Medicine study which found that Hispanics were shot (both fatally and nonfatally) at a rate 2.6 times higher than non Hispanic whites." VPC also asserts that fewer guns resulted that "Hispanic households had significantly higher rates of property crime, burglary, and theft than non-Hispanic households." What all of this means, to anyone capable of constructing a syllogism, is that if less guns result in more crime, the opposite is proven true as well, a position advanced by Yale University Professor John Lott in his landmark book "More Guns, Less Crime." Bottom line, folks, the anti-defense lobby has tripped on their own numbers and is too dumb to figure it out, especially the opportunistic moron politicians Roybal-Allard, Napolitano and Solis. The "study" compared such disparate "regions" as California, Texas and Chicago, as if the populations in geographically extensive states can be considered homogeneous - no attempt was made to disclose Hispanic homicide / injury rates based on urban / rural environments, nor to point out how ridiculous it is to compare such state figures with those of a city. Nor did they factor in such influences as existing gun laws which render populations defenseless; for instance, it is illegal to own a handgun in Chicago that was not registered by 1982. Also absent from the "study" was any indication of how many of the homicides were justifiable, either by law enforcement personnel or private citizens defending themselves or others. Nor was affiliation of the "victims" with criminal activities explored, or the distinction between gun possession and lawful ownership. But that's because the folks at VPC have never shown as strong an interest in promoting the truth as they have at dredging up whatever crazy and subversive crap they think will generate headlines, enhance their political clout, encourage contributions from well-heeled and well protected elitist patrons, and further undermine the ability of average Americans to exercise their God-given right to self defense. And based on this latest publicity stunt, they're not above adding racial profiling to their arsenal of predictably despicable tactics. [ If you receive this in text vs. html format, the links for the VPC press release and study are: http://www.vpc.org/press/0105hisp.htm http://www.vpc.org/studies/hispcont.htm ] - --------- David Codrea codrea4@earthlink.net Guns: good, AND good FOR you! Find out why at: http://www.guntruths.com/ http://www.citizensofamerica.org/ http://www.thelsas.org/ http://www.keepandbeararms.com/ - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:08:04 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Child Kidnapping Services Unveiled (fwd) To: govtwatch@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:03:36 -0700 Subject: Fw: Child Kidnapping Services Unveiled From: David Lindstedt - --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: jlkucek@juno.com To: jlkucek@juno.com Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:09:59 -0400 Subject: Child Kidnapping Services Unveiled From: "J.Richard Niemela" Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:24:18 -0400 Subject: Fw: Child Kidnapping Services Unveiled - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Jones Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:44 AM Subject: Child Kidnapping Services Unveiled Subject: This goes along with the article I sent out yesterday, also pay attention to what is going on In the Sandpoint, Sagle Idaho area. Those kids have more balls then any 20 men twice there age, figures it would take the kids making a stand rather then the community, typical for the Goy though. M.O.M. The article on S.R.S. reminded me of something that happened to my wife and myself about 20 years ago. S.R.S. (Social and Rehabilitation Services) had requested a meeting in their local office to discuss the adoption of three foster children that we had in our home at that time. We had been discussing the ins and outs of the adoption when the social worker we were meeting with was called out of the cubical. After about 5 minutes we overheard another social worker enter an adjacent cubical and ask the individual in it what to do about a problem that she was having with a welfare recipient in her community. I found out later that the individual in the cubical was social worker's supervisor. The social worker went on to explain that a child abuse complaint had been filled anonymously against the family and she had been assigned to investigate it. She related that during the investigation she had run into a situation that she didn't know how to handle. The conversation went on as such. "Every time I try and talk to the lady she refuses to talk to me without the husband present and she won't let me in the house unless I've called ahead and made an appointment. What should I do? The supervisor's advise went like this. When you get back to your cubical make an anonymous phone call to the local child abuse hot line stating that you are a neighbor of the family and you are concerned about one or the other of the children being abused. After making a similar call every other day for the next two or three weeks go up to the child abuse hot-line center and get a copy of their records. Then go over to judge W--gs court and request a court order removing all of the children from the home. You won't have any more trouble with her after that. After overhearing this conversation my wife and I quickly decided that we wanted nothing further to do with S.R.S. and after the three kids were adopted we dropped out of the foster parent program. As you can see it isn't only the present Social Service employees that have been involved in atrocities. They have been at it for a very long time. My name is Alan Rainey and I live at 2045 Oro Fino Gulch, Helena, Montana 59601. If you wish you may pass this along to your people. If you or any of you readers would like to confirm this account please call me at (406) 449-4866. Thanks Alan nox2128@blackfoot.net, "George S" gjstenekes@earthlink.net The so called "child services" government groups, has been proven by Ted Gunderson, X head of the FBI of several major cities, as being a "front" for child pornography! They get paid aprox. $25,000 for every child they get in the system! They are as much a danger to children as the "fag pedophile group nambla, the north American man/boy love association", they are evil predators on your children! The "10th plank of the communist manifesto called the public school system", is another predatory system! People if you love your children, get them out of that phony public school scam, be very careful about who you allow to talk or associate with your children. Stay away from the government enemies, learn the law yourself so they don't bury you with legal fees, & always have an escape plan, or 2, to get your children away from the predators that are out there, the worst being your government! PBJ - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 00:28:36 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: 60 Hard Truths about Liberals (fwd) From: Howard Rothenburg Subject: {SD-2} 60 Hard Truths about Liberals Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 60 Hard Truths about gun hating Liberals (Author unknown) 60 Hard Truths about gun hating Liberals. 1. At the most basic level, the liberal is an adolescent forever in search of a world without moral consequence. 2. Freedom from moral consequence can only be secured by a collectivist, totalitarian state. 3. Liberals use moralistic tones and catch-phrases like "social justice", but their only moral is the accumulation of power 4. Liberals ideologies tend inevitably towards world-wide totalitarianism. 5. All non-sexual individual freedoms are despised by the liberal because they demand moral responsibility. 6. The fundamental power struggle of the liberal is individual v. collective. The individual must be relieved of all power in favor of the collective. 7. Individualism demands moral responsibility. Collectivism hopes to eliminate the need for moral responsibility. 8. The U.S. Constitution - specifically the individualistic Bill of Rights - is the enemy of the liberal. 9. The liberal despises the United States because it is the premier gaurantor and promoter of individualism in the world. 10. All institutions and concerns - schools, environment, courts, etc. - serve no relevant purpose other than the promotion of collectivism. 11. Abortion is necessary to guarantee genital freedom and eliminate moral consequence. 12. The basis of psychology is the elimination of moral responsibility. 13. The liberal must create an atmosphere of crisis and fear to justify collectivist oppression. 14. Any religious person who believes or promotes moral consequence is the enemy of the liberal and must be oppressed. 15. Despite decades of spectacular failure, the liberal clings to the collectivist dream because it is far more than a theory of government. It is a religion. 17. The liberal seeks to dominate any institution which can weaken or destroy individual parental rights - public schools, child abuse agencies, pediatric associations, etc.. 18. The liberal applauds the imprisoning of homeschooling parents who dare to raise their children outside the control of collectivist public schools. 19. Private ownership of guns is the single greatest symbol of individual power, and therefore despised. 20. All individual freedoms demand the responsible behavior of the individual, and therefore demand a moral code. Liberals despise freedom because they despise morality. 21. The liberal loves Bill Clinton because of who he is, not in spite of who he is. 22. The liberal despises national sovereignty which protects individual freedoms. 23. The liberal promotes international governments (UN, EU, etc.) which seek to destroy individualism protected by sovereign states. 24. The liberal fears any hint of individualism in any part of the world, and is obsessed with the centralized control of all human activity and thought. 25. "Multi-culturalism" is the code world for a single, oppressive, collectivist culture. 26. Liberals speak often of tolerance, but only tolerate liberals. 27. The liberal seeks to criminalize any speech which promotes morality or individualism as "hate speech". 28. Environmentalists lie as a matter of course. 29. The liberal's only method of debate is to insult and discredit anyone who dares to disagree. 30. When possible, liberals oppress anyone who questions their beliefs. 31. Liberals despise all innocence - especially the innocence of a child. 32. Liberals seek the sexualization of children and the normalization of pedophilia, all in the pursuit of genital freedom. 33. In the liberal mind, your freedom is their oppression. 34. Private property and individual wealth is integral to individualism, and the enemy of the liberal. 35. The liberal hates you. 36. The liberal seeks to replace a moral world view with an emotional world view. 37. The liberal typically chooses a career which produces nothing of value - lawyer, bureaucrat, "activist", etc. - and uses government to extract the wealth of others. 38. Liberal programs enrich liberals and do little to help the poor. 39. The liberal despises masculinity as a symbol of individual power. 40. Feminists groups are about lesbianism and socialism, not equal rights for women. 41. Liberals are perfectly willing to destroy you financially, remove your children, and imprison you for what you believe. 42. Liberals fear technology and change - because neither can be centrally controlled. 43. Liberals are not obsessed with sex, but with promiscuity. Promiscuity is the dominate theme of the liberal media culture. 44. Liberals despise the suburbs as a manifestation of individual prosperity, private property ownership, and the family. 45. Liberals despise marriage and family because they are institutions which frown on promiscuity. 46. Liberals are never satisfied with the power they have gained over the lives of individuals - they must control every thought and detail of human activity. 47. Liberals seek to control public schools, and force all children into them, in order to foster promiscuity and collectivist ideology in children. 48. Other diseases kill millions more, but liberals are obsessed with Aids because it is a moral consequence of promiscuity. 49. Liberals are more committed than conservatives because their politics is also their religion. 50. Liberal activities are all about ego - to demonstrate "I care more than you do" without really helping anyone. 51. Whenever a liberal expresses concern "for the children", they are using and targeting children to expand promiscuity, collectivism, and their own pocketbooks and egos. 52. Because collectivist politics is their only morality, liberals have no problem with deceit, oppression, or violence in their pursuit of collectivism. 53. Liberals are elitists who exempt themselves from the oppressive rules they impose on the general population. 54. Liberals howl if a transvestite or convicted felon is even slightly offended, but openly bash Christians. 55. Liberals dream of a return to a centralized, 1940's urban environment. We all ride the bus from a small, dirty, big city apartment to an 8-5 union job. 56. Liberals believe that wealth is static - anyone who makes money must be stealing it from someone else. 57. Liberals claim to be against violence, but makes excuses for liberals like Castro who torture political dissidents. 58. Liberals have enormous compassion for criminal predators, but little for the victims. 59. In the liberal world, all problems stem from individualism, and all solutions are collective. 60. Liberals believe that passing religious values to children is a form of child abuse. "We must hang together, or we shall most assuredly hang separately." - --Benjamin Franklin - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:15:04 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: National Education Association Resolution] (fwd) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 09:43:42 +0000 From: "Charles C. Carter" Subject: National Education Association Resolution THE SAME CALIF. HOMOSEXUAL CURRICULUM WILL BE PUSHED IN EVERY OTHER OF THE 49 STATES STATES BY THE NEA OUT OF WASH D.C. IN STATE/GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS, SO GET BUSY AND FIGHT THIS. CALL RONALD PAIGE, U.S. SEC. OF EDUCATION AND TOMMY THOMPSON,U.S. SEC OF HEALTH AND COMPLAIN. GET RID OF THE NEA!!! CHAR CARTER, RETIRED TEACHER From: DSch1073@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:24:03 EDT Subject: Fwd: National Education Association Resolution Now the NEA is pushing the agenda as well as our California leaders! Remember: 6 of the 9 bills to push the homosexual agenda on our kids have passed the house or senate last week. 3 are being voted on next week. (this is in addition to 4 homosexual bills passed in 99 and 4 more in 2000). This is no longer about gays being allowed to be...it is about them pushing their agenda on us and on our kids! Do we need 4 +4 +9 = 18 homosexual laws promoting their agenda? And why is the media quiet about this? Diane Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:48:14 -0700 From: "Donna@GoDonna" Subject: National Education Association Resolution NEA must not endorse Homosexuality! - ----------------------------------- >From TVC. Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:26:50 -0400 NEA Resolution "New B" for Homosexuality. - ---------------------------------------- The National Education Association recognizes that the complex and diverse needs of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and questioning students; and gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender families and their children require the development of programs that promote a safe and inclusive environment. a. Development of curriculum and instructional materials and programs designed to meet the needs of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender students.*****************(WATCH!) b. Involvement of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender educators in developing educational material used in classroom instructions. c. Dissemination of programs that support gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and questioning students and address the high dropout rate, suicide rate, and health risk behaviors. d. Recognition of the importance of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender education employees as role models. e. Accurate portrayal of the roles and contributions of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people throughout history. f. Dissemination of programs and information that include the contributions, heritage, culture and history of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people. g. Coordination with gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender organizations and concerned agencies that promote the contributions, heritage, culture, history, health and care of gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people. (end resolution text) - ------------------------------------- Talking Points on the NEA's pro-homosexual resolution - Supporters of "New B" say that it will protect homosexuals in schools by implementing pro-homosexual curriculum, instructional materials, programs, and by hiring homosexual educators. But is this what we really want? The passage of this resolution means that homosexuality could be taught to your children, as young as preschool. The homosexual agenda does not belong in public schools, but if the NEA supports this resolution, the nation's public schools will be only a step away from implementing it. Also, these programs would occur without the consent of parents. The NEA's Web site tells parents that "you are your child's first and most important teacher." However, by supporting this resolution the NEA takes the power from the parents to dictate what their children learn and when they learn it. Schools, not parents, would decide when and what the children learn about homosexuality. Some of the main ideas in the resolution have already been tested in America's public schools. with horrific results: =B7 The school board in Provincetown, Mass., approved a measure that allows preschoolers to be taught about homosexuality, and the group Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays to speak in kindergarten classes. (Washington Times, Aug 21, 1997) =B7 In Marin County, Calif., all second- through fifth-graders at Pleasant Valley School were called to an assembly put on by a local theater group. The group taught the children slogans such as, "I'm gay and it's okay." The skits included one in which Rapunzel cut her hair and ran away with her girlfriend. One fourth-grade child went home and told his parents that he learned about families with two daddies and two mommies, and words like "homosexual" and "lesbian." One third-grade girl reportedly asked her father if she was a lesbian because she liked girls better than boys. Many parents were outraged because they had not been informed of the assembly or the material it would address. (Citizen magazine, July 2001) =B7 In California, elementary school students were forced to hear about their teacher's homosexual lifestyle. When the teacher's homosexual partner sent flowers to him in the class, he used the moment to talk about homosexuality. When one of the parents wrote to the teacher to complain, he responded with a letter that said, in essence, that while he agreed not to talk about homosexuality, he never agreed not to use "teachable moments" to educate the children about homosexual issues. (Family News in Focus, May 18, 2001) =B7 The Washington Times reported that "Kindergartners are learning about 'homophobia' as lessons about alternative lifestyles and homosexuality appear in America's elementary school's, often without parental knowledge."(Nov. 25, 1997) =B7 In Montpelier, Vt., high school students were taken to an unannounced assembly. Once there, they were presented with a panel entirely made up of gays, lesbians, and bisexuals who talked about how happy, healthy and productive they are. (Washington Times, Nov. 25, 1997) =B7 A California labor commissioner ruled against the Hemet Unified School District, saying they "discriminated" against a teacher by allowing a tenth-grade girl to transfer out of the class. The transfer occurred after the teacher openly discussed her private relationship with her lesbian partner in front of the class, reportedly making the girl uncomfortable and anxious, and creating a hostile learning environment for her. (The (Riverside) Press-Enterprise, Feb. 6, 1999, and Jan. 19, 2000; California Senate Judiciary Statement on SB 1804) This resolution promotes an agenda, not education. "New B" seeks to advance the homosexual agenda in public schools through curriculum and programs, without the consent of parents. Public schools should be a place for reading, writing and arithmetic, not reading, writing and social agendas. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:16:06 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Website: Police Guide (fwd) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:24:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Martin Subject: [slickplus] Website: Police Guide A federal attorney I know gave me this site, I thought you might find it interesting. You can check to see if the FBI has ever had a file on you. I was shocked to see that there was a file on me. I suggest not using your Social Security Number. Just check all states. I doubt this site will be up for much longer. I found a record on ME and they even had a photo that was awful! Just double-click on the site and put in your state and name, if a match is found they will ask for a year of birth to narrow the search. You will get the case number, date of investigation and any photos on file. It's a free site, but is expected to be closed due to a federal court order. http://www.policeguide.com/cgi-bin/criminal-search Alan Bombria - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:16:01 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Press Release:Book Review: BURNING RAGE - The Growing Anger Within My (fwd) Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:41:34 +0000 From: "Charles C. Carter" Subject: Press Release:Book Review: BURNING RAGE - The Growing Anger Within My Country by Barry Clausen ] A great book and speaker for your group! Tell others. From: frc@pvtnetworks.net (Jay Walley) ubject: Press_Release:__Book_Review:_BURNING_RAGE_-_The_Growing_Anger_Within _My_Country_by_Barry_Clausen_ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:01:42 -0600 (Talk show hosts and editors, Barry Clausen is available for interviews at 530 241 4884. ) ECO-TERRORISTS EXPOSED! Book Review by J. Zane Walley Barry Clausen was poised, professional and humorous as he addressed members of the Eagle Forum & Paragon Foundation on during their 2001 seminar in Alamogordo, NM. During his one-hour presentation he held the attention of the entire audience as he talked about information contained within his new book BURNING RAGE - The Growing Anger Within My Country. The book covers his personal experiences within the American judicial system, as well as his investigations into the activities of environmental/animal rights terrorists and extremists. BURNING RAGE is a shocking, must read for all Americans." His book takes you out of your comfort zone and challenges you to think. Burning Rage is a behind the scenes look at the dark underworld of government cover-ups, the Unabomber, and radical environmentalism. Clausen is a 'human backhoe' - constantly digging for the truth. What he finds is not always pleasant, but sometimes the truth hurts. Former Member of Congress "Helen Chenoweth-Hage noted "The natural habitat of the "Ecoterrorist" is shadow and secrecy. Barry Clausen does everyone who cares about our nation's resources a great service by shining a bright light on this ugly and dangerous movement. He has done this by the painstaking accumulation of facts and by a single-minded determination to uncover the truth." I know Barry personally. He literally laid life on the line by going undercover to investigate EarthFirst! To publish BURNING RAGE, he and his wife, Julie, mortgaged their home to pay the printer. BURNING RAGE is $19.95 plus $3.00 Shipping and Handling for a total of $22.99. Order by calling By calling. Range Magazine at 1 800 RANGE 4U or by contacting Barry Clausen at 530 241 4884. To order by mail send check or money order to North American Research P.O. Box 492141 Redding, CA 96049 - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:41:32 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: YOU STOPPED VILLARAIGOSA (fwd) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 17:20:59 +0000 From: "Charles C. Carter" Subject: [Fwd: YOU STOPPED VILLARAIGOSA] From: sheri@americanpatrol.com Date: 6 Jun 2001 18:02:50 -0000 Subject: YOU STOPPED VILLARAIGOSA YOU DEFEATED VILLARAIGOSA He had the support of California Gov. Gray Davis, the California Democrat Party, Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, Los Angeles Supervisor Gloria Molina, the Los Angeles County Federation of Labor (just about every blue collar labor union in Southern California), the Teachers Union, Daddy Warbucks billionaire Eli Broad, and the Los Angeles Times---AND HE LOST. INFORMED VOTERS SHOWED WISDOM Los Angeles voters were not buying Villaraigosa. It was not just his letter to spring drug dealer Vignali, it was also Mexican separatism that cost Villaraigosa the election. SEPARATISM AND RECONQUISTA EXPOSED On Thursday, May 31, during the final mayoral debate (televised on KABC TV) Frank Mottek, a KFI radio (1070 AM) reporter, asked Villaraigosa point blank if he repudiated the goals a separate Latino Republic carved out of the Southwest. (KFI was the only radio station that attended the May 11 American Patrol news conference and the only station that carried the story of our lawsuit against the Los Angeles Times and Daily News.) He refused to answer. Think of it, a candidate for Mayor of Los Angeles refuses to say if he wants the United States of America broken up! This incredible story was picked up by NewsMax.com and began spreading, despite attempts by the mainstream media to kill it. AMERICAN PATROL HITS THE AIRWAYS On Sunday, June 3, Glenn Spencer of American Patrol was a guest on three radio talk shows, one nationwide and two local. He was on Los Angeles clear channel KFI 640 AM from midnight Sunday to 2:30 a.m. Monday. Thanks to KFI host Lee Klein, Spencer was able to fully expose both Villaraigosa and the Los Angeles Times in a way that brought many calls of praise. On Monday, June 4, the issue of Villaraigosa and Mexican reconquista broke wide open. Even liberal Los Angeles talk show host Gloria Allred (KABC 790 AM) was forced to spend an entire hour on Villaraigosa and MEChA. George Putnam (KRLA 870 AM) hammered both the Los Angeles Times and Villaraigosa. YOU DID IT Despite attempts by the Los Angeles Times and Daily News to keep the truth from Los Angeles voters, with your support, American Patrol was able to deliver 35,000 copies of the Villaraigosa ad to homes in the San Fernando Valley. These ads, our lawsuit against the Los Angeles Times and Daily News and the hard work of Hal Netkin of www.mayorno.com, forced the issue of Villaraigosa and la Reconquista into the public arena. We are convinced that this made the difference in the election for Mayor of Los Angeles. THANK YOU Without your support none of this would have been possible. Thank you. We will now proceed to prosecute our lawsuit against the Los Angeles Times and Daily News to teach them that unlawful suppression of the truth is not condoned in the United States. For a copy of the lawsuit as filed in Superior Court, see http://www.americanpatrol.com/VCTcomplaint.html Glenn Spencer American Patrol http://www.americanpatrol.com - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:42:35 -0700 From: Bill Vance Subject: Lovely rant on the damage done by education (fwd) From: Rich Martin Subject: SlickMisc: Lovely rant on the damage done by education Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:38:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jack Perrine" Education College Brainwashing by Brad Edmonds While in grad school I encountered one of my freshman music theory students, when he was a senior. He was a music education major. Before getting to The Chat, I should note that he was a C student in theory, typical of education majors. The strong students were the performance majors, such as the one with C talent who wrested an A from pure effort - my fondest memory (that student ended up in grad school, and appeared to have much more "talent" later). While the education majors were ostensibly focused on ideas, and the performance majors on developing a (largely physical) skill, the performance majors did better with ideas. I don't remember what got our chat started, but I remember how the brainwashed government-educator-to-be finished: "You can't be an effective teacher without taking at least a few education courses." My brilliant retort was something like "what a load." Fortunately, I followed with "so was I a good enough teacher?" (I took one course from an educator, a giggler having something to do with research skills; see below.) The kid had no argument - - not that I would expect an education major to have good arguments. And I was a strong enough teacher, due mostly to my supervisor's rigorous course outline and partly to my dogged adherence to it. But there's a better argument: Here is a partial list of the people who never encountered a state-certified teacher: Moses; Jesus; Augustus Caesar; St. Thomas Aquinas; St. Augustine; Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven; Martin Luther; Babbage; the rationalists, the empiricists, and Kant; and I'm not certain, but I'll bet on Einstein and Heisenberg, Patton and Bradley. My personal favorite is Newton, whoinvented the calculus - one of the most important advances of all time - and more during a break from college, at home, at about age 23. Then there's Michelangelo, all the people who developed Italian cooking, the ones who developed gunpowder?I'd love to continue. How many minds like those have come from government schools since public educators fully took over after WWII? Schools of education have wrought an impressive thing: In the world's most powerful nation, education colleges are training those who, through their brainwashed block voting, intimidate legislators into making teacher-certification laws everyone knows are harmful to tens of millions of children, thus to the world's future. They are intimidating legislators into making it more difficult for you to control your own child's upbringing. They are sending government prosecutors into the homes of loving, intelligent, involved parents to charge them with crimes for not choosing state-approved home schooling texts. Add in the number of fresh 5-year-old children they get for their government brainkilling machine every year, and you realize how fearsome they are. They are the most powerful politically united group of voters on the planet, and the most harmful, making it possible, for example, for the greens to be as powerful as they are by dumbing down our progeny. They have succeeded not only in dumbing down three generations of Americans; schools of education have managed to attract consistently the weakest college students and dumb even them down as well. That could almost be a bright spot - remember that in the 2000 presidential election, it is probable that the Democrats had finally attracted voters so careless and stupid that they may have lost the election solely to their constituents' inability to follow instructions in casting votes (oh, and thousands of felons were among the Gore voters as well). Analogously, perhaps the more recent generations of education-school graduates, when they inherit power over the education establishment, will be too thoroughly moronic to hold on to that power. (This is fantasy; they need obedient lawmakers, so that's the one thing they'll keep achieving skillfully.) In the meantime, home school your children. Get permission to home school your television-addicted neighbor's children. For my part, I'll move into a smaller house if necessary, when I have children, so the family can live and home school on only my salary. Those of you who home school: Learn about legal defense organizations - you may need one (see my archive for links). Sidebar: The education course I took was called, I believe, "Introduction to graduate research in music." For the second meeting, we took a tour of the library (they herded us around like kindergarteners - we grad students couldn't be trusted to find, say, the reference desk on our own), and learned about references I'd never heard of and found useless when I did real research. Most interesting was that the professor spent time alone with each of us during the semester. I don't know what he said to the others; he attacked me. Being displeased by my classroom questioning of his lies about psychology, logic, and more, he accused me of having an "agenda" (when you have one, you see other people the same way); of trying to "intimidate" him (he had the PhD, I was the student; he was 6'4", I'm 5'8"); and of being "recalcitrant," meaning I wasn't suggestible enough. He was right. For my term paper, I documented the falsehoods in the textbook. June 7, 2001 Brad Edmonds [send him mail], MS in Industrial Psychology, Doctor of Musical Arts, is a banker in Alabama. Copyright ? 2001 LewRockwell.com Brad Edmonds Archives Back to LewRockwell.com Home Page Jack Perrine | Athena Programming | 626-798-6574 _________________| 1175 N Altadena Dr | ____________ Jack@Minerva.com | Pasadena CA 91107 | FAX-398-8620 Cut out the middlemen. Send donations to: Boys Scouts of America National HQ 1329 Walnut Hill Ln. Irving, TX 75162 http://www.SaveOurScouts.com - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #445 *************************