From: "Ronda Ploughman" Subject: Re: [roswell] Howie D Date: 01 Jul 2000 10:39:38 -0700 I think he will have a recurring role as a bad alien and since he was only on the last three seconds of destiny, it won't start till next season..... ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:01 PM > well i am more of an N'sync gal.... > luvin' some BSB songs, but i do not know their names. > so, what is Howie D's role going to be? > kellygirl > P.S. does anyone know that the next eppie is going to be? > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: [roswell] No converters, but...! Date: 01 Jul 2000 12:33:59 -0400 (EDT) I haven't tried any converting techniques, but I am discovering a lot of closet Roswell fans. Sometimes merely bring up the show, during a conversation, allows those who watch the show but feel they are alone in Roswell Land, to let the Roswellite out. If anything, getting them to join a Roswell message board is even harder, which doens't make much sense! jtv ------Original Message------ Sent: June 20, 2000 1:25:39 AM GMT who else has converted a friend or family or co-worker to watch Roswell? and which ep *did* it for them? kellygirl FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Spoiler?? - Season 2 Date: 01 Jul 2000 12:47:17 -0400 (EDT) SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE For those of us who watch the WB on Tuesday night, the question of whether Topolski will return next season may have been answered on the season finale of... jtv ------Original Message------ Sent: May 9, 2000 11:04:46 PM GMT Well, I've 'heard' plenty that the ratings have been great since they moved it to Mondays, but I haven't seen anything official myself. If the ratings are staying around 5-6.0, there's little reason, I think, why they should c@ncel it... unless Jason Katims miffed someone off at the WB. :) Just like we didn't see Topolsky die, I wonder if either will show up next season? FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DaniLynn27@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] No converters, but...! Date: 01 Jul 2000 12:56:31 EDT << who else has converted a friend or family or co-worker to watch Roswell? and which ep *did* it for them? >> Well, I'm the converted here :) I watched the pilot and couldn't get into it, but then all my friends started watching it and told me I *had* to start watching it. So I watched "285 South" with them (that's what it was called, right?) and that was it, I was hooked. Mostly thanks to Michael and Maria, those two cracked me up in the way they were interacting with each other. And then I spotted someone on the Xmission buffylist subbed to a Roswell list so I asked for subbing instructions and here I am! Dani Get Home Before Dark - www.gethomebeforedark.com ======================================== Buffy: "Your logic does not resemble our earth logic." Xander: "Mine is much more advanced." (The Wish) ======================================== Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Roswell dollars...? Date: 01 Jul 2000 13:00:22 -0400 (EDT) I didn't know one could sale things here in Roswell Land. But one had to know, sooner or later, e-commerce would hit our island!! jtv ------Original Message------ Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com, RoswellSmut@onelist.com, RoswellontheWB@onelist.com, Roswell-L@onelist.com, roswellites@onelist.com, Roswellians@onelist.com, RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com, roswell@lists.xmission.com, max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com, max-and-liz@onelist.com, JasonBehr@onelist.com, jason_behr@onelist.com, All-Roswell@onelist.com, 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com, 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com, 123Roswell@onelist.com, Mel , roswell@lists.xmission.com Sent: June 14, 2000 12:18:33 AM GMT hi everyone... i have a bunch of glossy 8 by 10 photos...i would like to sell some of these because i have to many! (lol)....the 8 by 10 glossy photos cost an average of $10.00 each...if anyone is interested in buying one or some of the photos email me at alienshay2484@go.com and we will discuss prices etc.... shayla have a great day!!!! FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Give Up...? Date: 01 Jul 2000 13:13:21 -0400 (EDT) In the beginning, Roswell was about three aliens trying to survive on a planet where they were "alone." Trying to fit in to a world that they knew was not theirs. As the show progressed, I thought I was looking at another Dawson's Creek, 90210, and the like. The show seemed to center around the intimate moments between Liz and Max. **The shows writers were asking themselves...How many times during the next hour can we have Liz and Max all over each other? Don't get me wrong, intimacy is a good thing. Prior to the last two or three, which were more sci fi then anything, the show had the appropriate mix. You had your sci fi, mystery, intimacy, and comedy all in tandem. There will never be another X-Files! There may be another Friends! If Roswell can stay right in the middle, it will last as long as the story allows it to. jtv ------Original Message------ Sent: June 14, 2000 7:14:33 PM GMT FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: Re: [roswell] "What happens now?. . ." Date: 01 Jul 2000 13:21:22 -0400 (EDT) I think the writers have a thing for Peanuts, when it comes to the parents. Though Peanuts have the occasional "WHA WHA" voice, Roswell has an occasional appearance of a parent, not counting the sheriff. jtv ------Original Message------ Sent: June 22, 2036 9:32:07 PM GMT Hi Adam, Welcome to the list! There are pretty much no parental repercussions ever in this series, no matter what happens! Either the parents are extremely permissive, or we're expected to believe the gang just talks their way out of getting into trouble each time! Martha FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEEPY91@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Spoiler?? - Season 2 Date: 01 Jul 2000 13:23:28 EDT In a message dated 7/1/00 4:47:47 PM !!!First Boot!!!, cptroc@email.com writes: << SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE For those of us who watch the WB on Tuesday night, the question of whether Topolski will return next season may have been answered on the season finale of... >> s p o i l e r s p a c e She's back as Darla on Angel! I like Julie Benz, as Toplosky and Darla Jeepy Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Roswell dollars...? Date: 02 Jul 2000 08:19:26 -0500 > I didn't know one could sale things here in Roswell Land. But one had to > know, sooner or later, e-commerce would hit our island!! Since it's Roswell-related, I'll let it slide. But you'd be surprised at how many non-members try to submit mass mail advertisements! Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] No converters, but...! Date: 02 Jul 2000 08:25:40 -0500 > So I watched "285 South" with them and that was it, > I was hooked. I was okay with all the episodes, but I think for me, it was in Blood Brother and Toy House when I felt the show had significant potential. I've heard no spoilers for what's in store for us next season, however. Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marti Dunston Subject: Re: [roswell] parents haven't a clue Date: 05 Jul 2000 17:53:48 -0500 Roswell kids seem to be running around with a familial relationship based on trust. Lucky for our plot line! Roswell is enjoyable fiction and that's all we can expect it to be. Something I keep trying to overlook is that Liz is always leaving the restaurant un staffed! Does Liz run that restaurant or what? I never see her parents working there. What's up with that? How many hours does she put in? Argh! I just have to cool it and realize I'm being obsessive. The restaurant isn't real. It's there for a convenient meeting place, and occasional humor. Love the menu. Sadly, in 'real life', there are lots of families where there is no need for subterfuge or trust. The parents just couldn't care less where or what their children are into. Making a bomb in the garage, ordering automatic guns, cutting up the neighbor's daughter for convenient disposal, are all recent examples of our society's 'lack of parental involvement' with their children. Brrr. At 01:21 PM 7/1/00 -0400, you wrote: >I think the writers have a thing for Peanuts, when it comes to the parents. >Though Peanuts have the occasional "WHA WHA" voice, Roswell has an >occasional appearance of a parent, not counting the sheriff. > >jtv > > >------Original Message------ >From: Martha Jackson >To: roswell@lists.xmission.com >Sent: June 22, 2036 9:32:07 PM GMT >Subject: Re: [roswell] "What happens now?. . ." > >Hi Adam, >Welcome to the list! There are pretty much no parental repercussions ever in >this series, no matter what happens! Either the parents are extremely >permissive, or we're expected to believe the gang just talks their way out >of getting into trouble each time! > >Martha Marti *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* "Dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never going to hurt." Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Harmony Cadien" Date: 05 Jul 2000 20:49:38 PDT Ok, so I know this is once again untimely, but I have a question about the Crazy episode. I was watching it today with the little girl I babysitt for (who by the way loves the show and me for taping all the episodes since she had never heard of it before, she's getting caught up this summer) and was a little confused. I think when I watched it the first time I was confused as well, but figured everything would pan out by the end of the season. Well it didn't, at least not for me, after I watched this episode again. Ok, now that I have just confused everyone reading this and myself even more, I'll get on with why I'm confused. Here goes. Nasedo posed as the psychiatric doctor that was supposed to be taking care of Topolsky in Maryland. Why? What reason did he do this for? It seemed like Topolsky was trying to help the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be her doctor? If anyone has any feedback to offer on this, it would be appreciated. I am beyond perplexed. Thanks. Harmony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Harmony Cadien" Subject: [roswell] feedback please!! Date: 05 Jul 2000 20:50:10 PDT Ok, so I know this is once again untimely, but I have a question about the Crazy episode. I was watching it today with the little girl I babysitt for (who by the way loves the show and me for taping all the episodes since she had never heard of it before, she's getting caught up this summer) and was a little confused. I think when I watched it the first time I was confused as well, but figured everything would pan out by the end of the season. Well it didn't, at least not for me, after I watched this episode again. Ok, now that I have just confused everyone reading this and myself even more, I'll get on with why I'm confused. Here goes. Nasedo posed as the psychiatric doctor that was supposed to be taking care of Topolsky in Maryland. Why? What reason did he do this for? It seemed like Topolsky was trying to help the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be her doctor? If anyone has any feedback to offer on this, it would be appreciated. I am beyond perplexed. Thanks. Harmony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ronda Ploughman" Subject: [roswell] Re: Date: 06 Jul 2000 00:40:28 -0700 We're not sure if it was Nacedo. It could be the other alien that was in the crash, or it could be one of the evil shapeshifting aliens the podsters will be fighting in the new season. Hope that helps! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 8:49 PM > Ok, so I know this is once again untimely, but I have a question about the > Crazy episode. I was watching it today with the little girl I babysitt for > (who by the way loves the show and me for taping all the episodes since she > had never heard of it before, she's getting caught up this summer) and was a > little confused. I think when I watched it the first time I was confused as > well, but figured everything would pan out by the end of the season. Well it > didn't, at least not for me, after I watched this episode again. Ok, now > that I have just confused everyone reading this and myself even more, I'll > get on with why I'm confused. Here goes. Nasedo posed as the psychiatric > doctor that was supposed to be taking care of Topolsky in Maryland. Why? > What reason did he do this for? It seemed like Topolsky was trying to help > the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be her doctor? If anyone > has any feedback to offer on this, it would be appreciated. I am beyond > perplexed. Thanks. > > Harmony > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: RE: [roswell] feedback please!! Date: 06 Jul 2000 07:06:24 -0400 (EDT) Was Topolsky not picked up, or captured, later in that same episode. Maybe Nasedo posed as her psychiatric doctor to keep the "pod squad" from getting to close to her. This may have kept them from being captured as well. If you believe Nasedo's whole protector angle. Was it not reported that she died later on? jtv ------Original Message------ Sent: July 6, 2000 3:50:10 AM GMT ...Nasedo posed as the psychiatric doctor that was supposed to be taking care of Topolsky in Maryland. Why? What reason did he do this for? It seemed like Topolsky was trying to help the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be her doctor? If anyone has any feedback to offer on this, it would be appreciated. I am beyond perplexed. Thanks. Harmony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chantel Reynolds Subject: Re: [roswell] parents haven't a clue Date: 06 Jul 2000 08:38:06 -0700 (PDT) In early episodes, the parents were *much* more visible, and there were other waitresses at the Crashdown--Agnes comes to mind. But you're right; the parents just haven't been around much lately. Now, www.roswellscripts.com has the original scripts from season one, complete with the stuff they edited out for time. And the Destiny script does contain a reference to all the parents freaking out over all six (Tess's "parent" knew where she was) kids disappearing, which several people on the boards thought would have added a nice touch. Maybe it's me, but does anybody remember the parents being around much post-Sexual Healing? And given the way Max's and Liz's parents reacted to *those* activities, it would have done a lot for reality if we'd seen something about Max's parents losing it when he disappeared from the carnival. *sigh* Oh well, we rarely saw much of the parents in Buffy's world either.... Chantel --- Marti Dunston wrote: > Roswell kids seem to be running around with a > familial relationship based > on trust. Lucky for our plot line! > > Roswell is enjoyable fiction and that's all we can > expect it to be. > Something I keep trying to overlook is that Liz is > always leaving the > restaurant un staffed! Does Liz run that restaurant > or what? I never see > her parents working there. What's up with that? > How many hours does she > put in? Argh! I just have to cool it and realize > I'm being obsessive. > The restaurant isn't real. It's there for a > convenient meeting place, and > occasional humor. Love the menu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jennifer Subject: [roswell] Re: crazy question Date: 06 Jul 2000 14:18:13 -0700 (PDT) I was wondering the exact same thing the other day. That episode was confusing, what happens to Topolsky? She is killed right? Was the fire an accident or did the FBI set it? Was she really nuts because everything she said turned out to be true. And if she wasn't nuts why was she in the insitution? Why did Nasedo pose as the doctor when Topolsky was telling the truth and trying to help them? Sorry for all the questions but that episode wasn't very clear. :) --- Harmony Cadien wrote: > Ok, so I know this is once again untimely, but I > have a question about the > Crazy episode. I was watching it today with the > little girl I babysitt for > (who by the way loves the show and me for taping all > the episodes since she > had never heard of it before, she's getting caught > up this summer) and was a > little confused. I think when I watched it the first > time I was confused as > well, but figured everything would pan out by the > end of the season. Well it > didn't, at least not for me, after I watched this > episode again. Ok, now > that I have just confused everyone reading this and > myself even more, I'll > get on with why I'm confused. Here goes. Nasedo > posed as the psychiatric > doctor that was supposed to be taking care of > Topolsky in Maryland. Why? > What reason did he do this for? It seemed like > Topolsky was trying to help > the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be > her doctor? If anyone > has any feedback to offer on this, it would be > appreciated. I am beyond > perplexed. Thanks. > > Harmony > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for > help and info. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alison Subject: Re: [roswell] Re: crazy question Date: 07 Jul 2000 09:35:42 +1200 Topolsky wasn't nuts, she was telling the truth - the FBI put her in a mental institution so they could classify her as insane, and therefore no one would believe her stories. It was Nasedo who turned up, because he knew that Pierce was on Topolsky's tail - which would've led Pierce to the kids. So he lied about Topolsky in order to protect them. As we know, Nasedo doesn't care about who gets hurt, so long as the kids are safe. Alison At 14:18 6/07/00 -0700, you wrote: >I was wondering the exact same thing the other day. >That episode was confusing, what happens to Topolsky? >She is killed right? Was the fire an accident or did >the FBI set it? Was she really nuts because everything >she said turned out to be true. And if she wasn't nuts >why was she in the insitution? Why did Nasedo pose as >the doctor when Topolsky was telling the truth and >trying to help them? >Sorry for all the questions but that episode wasn't >very clear. :) >--- Harmony Cadien wrote: > > Ok, so I know this is once again untimely, but I > > have a question about the > > Crazy episode. I was watching it today with the > > little girl I babysitt for > > (who by the way loves the show and me for taping all > > the episodes since she > > had never heard of it before, she's getting caught > > up this summer) and was a > > little confused. I think when I watched it the first > > time I was confused as > > well, but figured everything would pan out by the > > end of the season. Well it > > didn't, at least not for me, after I watched this > > episode again. Ok, now > > that I have just confused everyone reading this and > > myself even more, I'll > > get on with why I'm confused. Here goes. Nasedo > > posed as the psychiatric > > doctor that was supposed to be taking care of > > Topolsky in Maryland. Why? > > What reason did he do this for? It seemed like > > Topolsky was trying to help > > the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be > > her doctor? If anyone > > has any feedback to offer on this, it would be > > appreciated. I am beyond > > perplexed. Thanks. > > > > Harmony > > >________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for > > help and info. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com/ > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. >---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan D." Subject: [roswell] Parent and Columbine Date: 07 Jul 2000 04:26:23 -0700 (PDT) You brought up how Liz's parents trust her, something I'm sure they do with the restaurant. We see Liz running the restaurant a lot, but I think it's pretty much an after-school job for her. We only see a short fraction of what the characters do when we see an hour long show, so you have to assume that when we aren't seeing Liz running the restaurant, that's when her parents are. > Sadly, in 'real life', there are lots of families > where there is no need > for subterfuge or trust. The parents just couldn't > care less where or what > their children are into. Making a bomb in the > garage, ordering automatic > guns, cutting up the neighbor's daughter for > convenient disposal, are all > recent examples of our society's 'lack of parental > involvement' with their > children. Brrr. You kind of indirectly brought up the Columbine incident with the "bomb in the garage" comment which I am kind of disappointed in. It's been over a year, and I think that we have to accept this event and move on. It's probably the only way we can move forward. I'm speaking personally, but I didn't really appreciate the reference. ===== -Ryan (who else?) "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here." ...Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan D." Subject: [roswell] More Parents- Roswell and Buffy Date: 07 Jul 2000 04:35:54 -0700 (PDT) You got to remember that it's a budgetary thing, too. It probably costs extra to pay the parents to appear in an episode. If they're not an integral part of the story, as they were in "Sexual Healing", then there's really no point. Did anyone ever notice that Max and Isabel's dad was one guy in "The Morning After" than he was when he showed up in "Into the Woods" and "Sexual Healing"? Maybe Nacedo was keeping a close eye than they think... > *sigh* Oh well, we rarely saw much of the parents in > Buffy's world either.... Hmmm... I think that's because aside from Joyce (Buffy's mom) none of the parents cared. Xander came from a dead-beat family, while Willow's were too busy being reknowned psychologists. On the up side, we did get to see Sheila, Willow's mom, in "Gingerbread" and Xander's dad in "Restless" albeit breifly. Buffy dad showed up twice early on, but I have to agree with you when it comes to Cordelia. She only mentions her parents a few times... WELCOME TO THE HELLMOUTH Talks about her mom having "chronic fatigue syndrome" PHASES "Daddy just had this car detailed!" And the whole thing about how her parents lost all the money, even though we never find out what happens to them... Thanks for listeing __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan D." Subject: Re: [roswell] Re: crazy question Date: 07 Jul 2000 04:37:57 -0700 (PDT) > It was Nasedo who > turned up, because he knew > that Pierce was on Topolsky's tail - which would've > led Pierce to the kids. > So he lied about Topolsky in order to protect them. > As we know, Nasedo > doesn't care about who gets hurt, so long as the > kids are safe. I was trying to think of a plausible explanation, but coming up short. I just have to say, good job Allison! This is the best answer ever! ===== -Ryan (who else?) "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here." ...Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marti Dunston Subject: [roswell] OT-Roswell: Warning-Rant about Ryan's 'smackdown' Date: 07 Jul 2000 11:54:22 -0500 Ryan, response to your 1st paragraph: Roswell is a great TV show. But it's a TV show! Maybe this is my fault. Perhaps I was too vague in my attempt at writing a humorous and entertaining post. I got carried away and I forgot not everyone is aware of these character's as actors. It's like this you see, who cares who runs the restaurant when it's off camera (or as you referred to it, "when we >aren't seeing Liz running the restaurant)? There is no restaurant. It's a plot device. response to your 2nd paragraph: :RANT: How insensitive of you to swing a smackdown at someone you know nothing about! Firstly, the "bomb in the garage" I referred to was about Illinois! Secondly, it was an example, along with two other incidents, to make a point about the Roswell 'topic' under discussion. In no way was I exploiting, or referring to, any particular incident in recent history. Geez Ryan, I didn't even know bombs had been used in the Columbine High School Incident in Littleton, Colorado (aha, I did some research). In all the news reports I read the assailants were referred to as the "gunmen" and the "shooters". I had to dig a little to discover that the assailants had also made pipe bombs and something called a "20 lb. propane bomb". I confess I quit digging after that so I don't really know if anyone was killed by a bomb, or if they made their bombs in a garage. My mind is tickled, tee hee, about some reference to an informal shooting range way out from town? But the tickles don't help the memory much, just irritate it! Most of the references seemed to indicate the victims were shot by "low quality weapons" (shotguns and pistols). That was a lot more information than I needed to know, but, it was all there for anyone to find. (Additionally, there were some very sensitive and nurturing memorial sites dedicated to the incident. I'm sure they were developed as a cathartic exercise for survivors, family's of victims, and anyone traumatized, or in otherwise affected, by this dreadful incident. If you are still so strongly affected by this incident after 1 year and 2 months, you might want to check them out.) Also, I made three separate references to (fairly) recent crimes committed by adolescents. Do you realize how you denigrate the other incidents by only mentioning one of them? Are the other crimes less horrific because they mean nothing to you? You stated "we have to accept this event and move on.". Who is not accepting the event here Ryan? Do you really think the rest of the world should just not mention it ever again? Is that how you hope to teach your children some day? I am sorry for your pain. But do you really think policing what people say is the right way to deal with it? Would you like to enforce censorship on all unpleasant subjects? Finally, if you must point out to everyone that someone has "indirectly" made a reference to something you don't like and that you don't "appreciate" it, try to inject some humor, or at least colorful references into your 'smackdowns'. How about cliches? Sugar coating helps the medicine go down, you can catch more flies with honey, etc. Or better yet, think them over first and then decide if you really want that nasty foot-in-the-mouth taste that follows when we share our prejudices with the world, or, 'er, list. P.S. Please flame me off list. Show some respect for the other LISTeners. Also, it's draining be this coherent for longer than 50 words or more...I'm pooped. :OFF RANT: At 04:26 AM 7/7/00 -0700, you wrote: > You brought up how Liz's parents trust her, >something I'm sure they do with the restaurant. We see >Liz running the restaurant a lot, but I think it's >pretty much an after-school job for her. We only see a >short fraction of what the characters do when we see >an hour long show, so you have to assume that when we >aren't seeing Liz running the restaurant, that's when >her parents are. > >> Sadly, in 'real life', there are lots of families >> where there is no need >> for subterfuge or trust. The parents just couldn't >> care less where or what >> their children are into. Making a bomb in the >> garage, ordering automatic >> guns, cutting up the neighbor's daughter for >> convenient disposal, are all >> recent examples of our society's 'lack of parental >> involvement' with their >> children. Brrr. > > You kind of indirectly brought up the Columbine >incident with the "bomb in the garage" comment which I >am kind of disappointed in. It's been over a year, and >I think that we have to accept this event and move on. >It's probably the only way we can move forward. > I'm speaking personally, but I didn't really >appreciate the reference. > >===== >-Ryan Marti ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I've never really made a conscious effort to collect books. I accumulate them; I don't collect them. - Neal Stephenson Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan D." Subject: [roswell] Rant Response (Not for the Faint of Heart) Date: 07 Jul 2000 10:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Ms. Dunston, Really, wasn't trying to provoke or entice you into a "battle" so to speak, but I think you took my comments a little too personally. I wasn't trying to put you down or make you feel bad about what you had written. I was simply asking to treat what you brought up (it was *you* that brought the topic up and not anyone else) with a little respect. You didn't do that. The e-mail you posted to get back at me, for lack of better words, is equally disrespectful. I'm sorry that I'm cutting up your e-mail, but I wanted to respond to each and everything you said. I didn't pull any punches here, but, in my opinion, neither did you. --- Marti Dunston wrote: > Ryan, > > response to your 1st paragraph: > > Roswell is a great TV show. But it's a TV show! > Maybe this is my fault. Perhaps I was too vague in > my attempt at writing a > humorous and entertaining post. I got carried away > and I forgot not > everyone is aware of these character's as actors. > It's like this you see, > who cares who runs the restaurant when it's off > camera (or as you referred > to it, "when we >aren't seeing Liz running the > restaurant)? There is no > restaurant. It's a plot device. I didn't say anything that contridicted that. I was merely stating my opinion, which didn't criticize yours in any way. Maybe you're taking what I think a little too personally. > response to your 2nd paragraph: > > :RANT: > > How insensitive of you to swing a smackdown at > someone you know nothing about! > > Firstly, the "bomb in the garage" I referred to was > about Illinois! > Secondly, it was an example, along with two other > incidents, to make a > point about the Roswell 'topic' under discussion. > In no way was I > exploiting, or referring to, any particular incident > in recent history. Actually, you brought up a point that had nothing to do with what was being discussed. We were talking about the kids parents being absent, which you somehow related to violence. None of the kids are violent or have violence-prone personalities, so I don't see how your example is relevant. If you were referring to the incident in Illinois as you say, you were "referring to... (a) particular incident in recent history." You contradict yourself. > Geez Ryan, I didn't even know bombs had been used in > the Columbine High > School Incident in Littleton, Colorado (aha, I did > some research). You did some research? This is common knowledge! This was on the television every night for over a month! You state a PC proper name and expect me to, what? Commend your intelligence? I think everyone reading this post knew what you want a pat on the back for saying. > In all > the news reports I read the assailants were referred > to as the "gunmen" and > the "shooters". I had to dig a little to discover > that the assailants had > also made pipe bombs and something called a "20 lb. > propane bomb". Again, this was on the news. Your "digging" isn't that impressive. It implies you actually uncovered something that is not general knowledge. > I confess I quit digging after that so I don't > really know if anyone was > killed by a bomb, or if they made their bombs in a > garage. My mind is > tickled, tee hee, about some reference to an > informal shooting range way > out from town? But the tickles don't help the > memory much, just irritate > it! Most of the references seemed to indicate the > victims were shot by > "low quality weapons" (shotguns and pistols). That > was a lot more > information than I needed to know, but, it was all > there for anyone to find. If it was for anyone to find, you really didn't "dig" it up, did you? > (Additionally, there were some very sensitive and > nurturing memorial sites > dedicated to the incident. I'm sure they were > developed as a cathartic > exercise for survivors, family's of victims, and > anyone traumatized, or in > otherwise affected, by this dreadful incident. If > you are still so > strongly affected by this incident after 1 year and > 2 months, you might > want to check them out.) Excuse me, but you are out of line in this instance. On my website, I have a small editorial about the Columbine tragedy. The fact that you tell me I "might want to check them out" is a rude and uninformed statement. I obviously care a lot more than you do. > Also, I made three separate references to (fairly) > recent crimes committed > by adolescents. > Do you realize how you denigrate the other incidents > by only mentioning one > of them? > Are the other crimes less horrific because they mean > nothing to you? I never said that. You think by putting words in my mouth you make me out to be a bad guy. I thought you were referring to Columbine, which you weren't and I'm sorry I thought you did. Really, it doesn't matter if it was Columbine or not. Your flippancy and non chalance about this topic proves you don't really care as much as you say you do. This is a serious topic and your writing "tee hee" in the middle of your paragraphs. > You stated "we have to accept this event and move > on.". Who is not > accepting the event here Ryan? I have accepted it. That why I said that. I'm sorry that you do not. > Do you really think the rest of the world should > just not mention it ever > again? Is that how you hope to teach your children > some day? Again, you are out of line. I said that we should not dwell in the event, not ignore it. You're putting words in my mouth agaIN. > I am sorry for your pain. But do you really think > policing what people say > is the right way to deal with it? > Would you like to enforce censorship on all > unpleasant subjects? You just continue with something you misinterpreted. I never said that. Read between the lines. I believe in freedom of speech. Even someone as uneducated as you is entitled to their opinion. > Finally, if you must point out to everyone that > someone has "indirectly" > made a reference to something you don't like and > that you don't > "appreciate" it, try to inject some humor, or at > least colorful references > into your 'smackdowns'. How about cliches? Sugar > coating helps the > medicine go down, you can catch more flies with > honey, etc. Or better yet, > think them over first and then decide if you really > want that nasty > foot-in-the-mouth taste that follows when we share > our prejudices with the > world, or, 'er, list. I'm glad that the deaths of several innocent people help "the medicine go down" for you. I don't find it funny that people have to suffer so that you can "inject some humor." > P.S. Please flame me off list. Show some respect > for the other LISTeners. > Also, it's draining be this coherent for longer than > 50 words or more...I'm > pooped. > > :OFF RANT: To all the other listees, I apologize. I felt that I had to respond to this attack even though I should have probably ignored. I hope you read what I've written and can see my perspective. Ms Dunston, unfortunetly, can not. > At 04:26 AM 7/7/00 -0700, you wrote: > > You brought up how Liz's parents trust her, > >something I'm sure they do with the restaurant. We > see > >Liz running the restaurant a lot, but I think it's > >pretty much an after-school job for her. We only > see a > >short fraction of what the characters do when we > see > >an hour long show, so you have to assume that when > we > >aren't seeing Liz running the restaurant, that's > when > >her parents are. > > > >> Sadly, in 'real life', there are lots of families > >> where there is no need > >> for subterfuge or trust. The parents just > couldn't > >> care less where or what > >> their children are into. Making a bomb in the > >> garage, ordering automatic > >> guns, cutting up the neighbor's daughter for > >> convenient disposal, are all > >> recent examples of our society's 'lack of > parental > >> involvement' with their > >> children. Brrr. > > > > You kind of indirectly brought up the Columbine > >incident with the "bomb in the garage" comment > which I > >am kind of disappointed in. It's been over a year, > and > >I think that we have to accept this event and move > on. > >It's probably the only way we can move forward. > > I'm speaking personally, but I didn't really > >appreciate the reference. > > > >===== > >-Ryan > > Marti > ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ > I've never really made a conscious effort > to collect books. I accumulate them; I don't collect > them. > - Neal Stephenson > > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for > help and info. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alison Subject: Re: [roswell] OT-Roswell: Warning-Rant about Ryan's 'smackdown' Date: 08 Jul 2000 10:44:55 +1200 >Roswell is a great TV show. But it's a TV show! >Maybe this is my fault. Perhaps I was too vague in my attempt at writing a >humorous and entertaining post. I got carried away and I forgot not >everyone is aware of these character's as actors. It's like this you see, >who cares who runs the restaurant when it's off camera (or as you referred >to it, "when we >aren't seeing Liz running the restaurant)? There is no >restaurant. It's a plot device. But in the world of the TV show, there IS a restaurant - and in that world, when Liz isn't running the restaurant, someone else IS. Part of the audience expectation to any TV show or movie is that something else is always happening in the offscreen space. There is no unattended set, there are no actors taking a lunch break. TV shows create a "world" - and if they didn't create that world, they would fail at their purpose of drawing in an audience and making that audience feel comfortable. So the comment about "who cares who runs the restaurant" isn't really relevant. It may be a plot device, but still, a world has been created, and in that world... life goes on! This isn't a personal flame, just my opinion on the topic... Alison Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan D." Subject: [roswell] Michael Meeting Denied Date: 10 Jul 2000 21:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Hey everybody. Sorry again for the whole fight back and forth thing that was going on. It's my fault for keeping it going, I guess. Anyway, I live in New Hampshire so I was going to go into Mass. to meet Brendon Fehr at Six Flags. Emphasize on the *was going* to. I couldn't get a ride. It's just really sad. I was wondering if anybody did live in Mass. and got to go? I cherish the story about who a few listees got to meet Jason Behr, so any other "close encounter" stories would be great! I swear, I'm going to meet somebody from Roswell, dammit! :-) ===== -Ryan (who else?) "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here." ...Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 11 Jul 2000 12:26:17 -0500 I'm surprised no one had any comments (so far) on Heat Wave yesterday. Of course, I've always felt this was more of a 'filler' episode and it's probably the type of episode the network is wanting the show to get away from. Still, if there's anything that really makes that episode worth watching, it's the Isabel/Alex dream-walk scene. It was nice, also, to see some parental units having some kind of story to them. This episode also had quite a few good songs in it, which I missed in the last couple of episodes that were a little more devoid of music. (Thank goodness for Napster!) ;-) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lavenda99@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 11 Jul 2000 13:25:47 EDT In a message dated 07/11/2000 1:20:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mikestone65@home.com writes: << http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ >> please take me off list for a while -- from august 1st till november 1st as I will not have access till my computer till then-or just cancell my e-mails and i will re-join when i get back thanks lavenda99@aol.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DaniLynn27@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 11 Jul 2000 14:31:11 EDT This was actually my first time viewing of "Heat Wave". I was really a spotty Roswell watcher til about March, so I'm using this summer to fill in all the gaps and to actually add visuals to what I read at the Crashdown. I really liked this episode . . I'm not sure if I'd call it "filler" because it established the Liz/Max relationship as something concrete and also involved Alex's finally finding out the secret, even though he doesn't believe. I really like that "I believe that you believe line". The whole scene in the jail from Liz telling him to Alex standing up to Valenti really worked for me. And I was glad to see the show had actually addressed in some way the fact that it seemed odd that it was okay for Michael to kiss Maria but not for Max to kiss Liz. I was nitpicking at that before I saw the ep, but now I feel much better :) Dani DaniLynn27@aol.com Get Home Before Dark - www.gethomebeforedark.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chantel Reynolds Subject: Re: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 11 Jul 2000 13:43:06 -0700 (PDT) I really liked being to rewatch this episode because it reminded me of things I'd forgotten during the rest of the season. 1. I had forgotten about Isabel 'knowing' that they needed to let Alex in on the secret, because they would better off including him. That really points to later episodes where he was important. In Balance, when Michael is so sick, the circle they formed would have been incomplete without Alex--it took everyone's involvement to save Michael. 2. I suddenly remembered that Michael had been concerned about hurting Maria all along and had acknowledged that perhaps it wasn't a good idea to get involved. I find those moments funny; the minute you start to wonder if you should 'get involved', you probably already are. Dani, I have a question. You said : > And I was glad to see the show had actually > addressed in some way the fact > that it seemed odd that it was okay for Michael to > kiss Maria but not for Max > to kiss Liz. I was nitpicking at that before I saw > the ep, but now I feel > much better :) I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you talking about the scene in the Crashdown where Michael kisses Maria to 'calm her down' and how Max is always so careful with Liz? I'm confused, but I'd like to understand because you bring up an important point. Michael and Maria threw themselves headlong into this relationship, without a lot of thought to the consequences, whereas Max and Liz move excruciatingly slow sometimes. Chantel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DaniLynn27@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 11 Jul 2000 17:13:11 EDT << I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you talking about the scene in the Crashdown where Michael kisses Maria to 'calm her down' and how Max is always so careful with Liz? I'm confused, but I'd like to understand because you bring up an important point. Michael and Maria threw themselves headlong into this relationship, without a lot of thought to the consequences, whereas Max and Liz move excruciatingly slow sometimes. >> I was talking about the scene in the bathroom with Max and Michael, and then Michael later telling Maria "I don't get this intense . . I'm alone, that's how it's gotta be." Before this episode, I hadn't seen an early scene where Michael is actually concerned about the ramifications of dating Maria. I probably just started watching regularly during the final seven or eight episodes of the season, where Michael and Maria had already been established. So to me, I was always wondering if they'd brought it up in the beginning, because caution was always so prevalent with Max/Liz, it seemed strange to me that it wasn't with Michael/Maria, so I was glad to see that it had been brought up at one point. Max was afraid to even kiss Liz, yet Michael just seemed to kiss Maria without a second thought. I guess it just chalked up to personality differences. Max is "look before you leap" and Michael is "Do now, think later". Dani DaniLynn27@aol.com Get Home Before Dark - www.gethomebeforedark.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DaniLynn27@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 11 Jul 2000 17:14:45 EDT << I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you talking about the scene in the Crashdown where Michael kisses Maria to 'calm her down' and how Max is always so careful with Liz? I'm confused, but I'd like to understand because you bring up an important point. Michael and Maria threw themselves headlong into this relationship, without a lot of thought to the consequences, whereas Max and Liz move excruciatingly slow sometimes. >> I was talking about the scene in the bathroom with Max and Michael, and then Michael later telling Maria "I don't get this intense . . I'm alone, that's how it's gotta be." Before this episode, I hadn't seen an early scene where Michael is actually concerned about the ramifications of dating Maria. I probably just started watching regularly during the final seven or eight episodes of the season, where Michael and Maria had already been established. So to me, I was always wondering if they'd brought it up in the beginning, because caution was always so prevalent with Max/Liz, it seemed strange to me that it wasn't with Michael/Maria, so I was glad to see that it had been brought up at one point. Max was afraid to even kiss Liz, yet Michael just seemed to kiss Maria without a second thought. I guess it just chalked up to personality differences. Max is "look before you leap" and Michael is "Do now, think later". Dani DaniLynn27@aol.com Get Home Before Dark - www.gethomebeforedark.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chantel Reynolds Subject: Re: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 11 Jul 2000 14:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Oh, okay. Now I understand, and I agree with you completely..... It does seem to be a personality difference between the two guys. And of course, these differences come back to haunt them both. Chantel > So to me, I was always wondering if they'd brought > it up in the beginning, > because caution was always so prevalent with > Max/Liz, it seemed strange to me > that it wasn't with Michael/Maria, so I was glad to > see that it had been > brought up at one point. Max was afraid to even kiss > Liz, yet Michael just > seemed to kiss Maria without a second thought. I > guess it just chalked up to > personality differences. Max is "look before you > leap" and Michael is "Do > now, think later". __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ~!shayla!~ Subject: [roswell] jason behr..buffy.. Date: 11 Jul 2000 15:59:23 -0700 (PDT) hi everyone, i ust read the buffy script "lie to me" which stared jason behr as billy fordom...i have never scene the episode but just reading the script made me see it picture perfect...his character was alittle strange..and kind...has anyone actually scene the episode??? i know i have but barely remember it... have a good day and night everyone!!! shayla Have a great day!!! from~~~~~Alienshay2484 talk to you soon! ___________________________________________________ GO Network Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelly Girl" Subject: Re: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 11 Jul 2000 18:59:29 PDT hey all, well for me i liked "heat wave" well i liked it cuz max was so wonderful (words/lines) and cute. ummm? sorry list mummies.... this list is not about how *cute* someone is. last nights ep seemed like a *fluff* ep, it did the first time i saw it and thanx to my *convert* i *saw* it the way i first viewed it (ummmm, i still think max is a hottie). okay, you guys are familiar with my 48 yr old convert (?) and she luvs to discuss (the next day) mondays ep of roswell. she usually gushes about how wonderful it is and WHAT is going to happen next (i usually am tight lipped about that). today she was so totally dissapointed about "heat wave"..... her words were " last nights ep reminded me of 90210, but on a junior high level. i wanted and expected more about the *aliens*." again tight lipped i let her know that the re-runs of roswell are not in order, and be patient .... heheeee, i know she will tune in next monday.... "heat wave" has not *tarnished* the show for her, as apparently it has not for the rest of us . kelly ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] jason behr..buffy.. Date: 11 Jul 2000 21:25:19 -0500 > i ust read the buffy script "lie to me" which stared jason behr > ...has anyone actually scene the episode??? I have, and have had the opportunity to have seen it again recently. The thing is, we're really not mean to like the 'Ford' character that Behr played, and I don't recall that it was a favorite among 'Buff-a-holics.' Basically it helped establish that Buffy was alone and could not trust even some of her closest friends, as Ford had once been. Still, one can't help be somewhat sympathetic to his character. He had some kind of terminal brain cancer and was going to die unless, as he believed, he became a vampire. If you don't mind me SPOILING it bit for anyone who hasn't seen it; he gets his wish in the end, and he gets it in the end. Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan D." Subject: Re: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 12 Jul 2000 05:13:42 -0700 (PDT) When I converted my friend Emily, we took out three days over April vacation to re-watch all the episodes (except the end of "Blind Date"- which got cut off when I rand out of tape). At her brithday party last night, a whole bunch of her basketball team friends watched Roswell with us, but they started with "Heat Wave." Call me a baby but I didn't think it was fair. When someone is converted, they should begin with the first epiosde and then have to suffer through those 9 long episodes before Max and Liz kiss. Is that too much to expect? ===== -Ryan (who else?) "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here." ...Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chantel Reynolds Subject: Re: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 12 Jul 2000 07:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Ryan, I completely agree. My convert hasn't seen Heat Wave yet, and he's going nuts with the excruciating slowness of Max and Liz. I get a sly grin on my face every time he complains. It's only fair that he suffer through the same things the rest of us did. Chantel --- "Ryan D." wrote: > When I converted my friend Emily, we took out three > days over April vacation to re-watch all the > episodes > (except the end of "Blind Date"- which got cut off > when I rand out of tape). At her brithday party last > night, a whole bunch of her basketball team friends > watched Roswell with us, but they started with "Heat > Wave." > > Call me a baby but I didn't think it was fair. When > someone is converted, they should begin with the > first > epiosde and then have to suffer through those 9 long > episodes before Max and Liz kiss. Is that too much > to > expect? > > > ===== > -Ryan > (who else?) > > "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all > mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." > "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. > "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have > come here." > ...Lewis Carroll > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from > anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for > help and info. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan D." Subject: [roswell] More Club "Encounters" Date: 12 Jul 2000 13:10:21 -0700 (PDT) hey everybody! Once again, I'm shouting out my "Crashdown Encounters" Yahoo! site at: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/crashdownencounters I'm beginning an Interactive Story that I true Roswellians to contribute to. There's no finer Roswellians than the ones on this mailing list. If you don't have a Yahoo! ID to join the club, you can do so at http://www.yahoo.com Thanks to the couple of members who joined after my first post! It means a lot! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan D." Subject: Re: [roswell] Heat Wave Date: 12 Jul 2000 13:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Thanks Chantel. You rock :-) --- Chantel Reynolds wrote: > Ryan, > > I completely agree. My convert hasn't seen Heat Wave > yet, and he's going nuts with the excruciating > slowness of Max and Liz. I get a sly grin on my > face > every time he complains. It's only fair that he > suffer through the same things the rest of us did. > > Chantel > > --- "Ryan D." wrote: > > When I converted my friend Emily, we took out > three > > days over April vacation to re-watch all the > > episodes > > (except the end of "Blind Date"- which got cut off > > when I rand out of tape). At her brithday party > last > > night, a whole bunch of her basketball team > friends > > watched Roswell with us, but they started with > "Heat > > Wave." > > > > Call me a baby but I didn't think it was fair. > When > > someone is converted, they should begin with the > > first > > epiosde and then have to suffer through those 9 > long > > episodes before Max and Liz kiss. Is that too much > > to > > expect? > > > > > > ===== > > -Ryan > > (who else?) > > > > "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're > all > > mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." > > "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. > > "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have > > come here." > > ...Lewis Carroll > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from > > anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for > > help and info. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from > anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for > help and info. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chantel Reynolds Subject: [roswell] campaign strategies Date: 13 Jul 2000 10:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Just to let folks know, There are several campaign suggestions in the works for following-up the Tabasco blitz from the spring. Right now the front runners seem to be: 1. a silver handprint on black paper with Roswell: We Still Believe (or We Believe) on the paper, sent to the same addresses the fans used before. 2. an 'orb' mailed to WB as well. Instructions for making the orbs are at the NORoswellCancellation egroup, but the upshot is getting some arts and crafts easter egg kind of things and spray painting them silvery, then tracing the alien glyph symbol onto it. The biggest debate seems to be timing for mailing all this in. Some people have suggested starting a wave in late September/early October to coincide with the season premiere, and then perhaps a second wave in November after the initial ratings have come in. The idea would be to marry these two campaigns together somehow. Anyway, fanforum asked that those of us on bigger mailing lists start postings these ideas and rounding up support. You can go visit the Roswell2 board and look for the silver handprint campaign thread for more information. Just doing my part.... Chantel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Parent and Columbine...? Date: 14 Jul 2000 06:10:31 -0400 (EDT) I don't think this person indirectly brought up the Columbine shooting. You simply inferred what was written back to the incident. I totally feel for the families, friends, and associates of those whose lives were DIRECTLY affected by the events in Columbine. If people keep inferring that everything said or written by someone "indirectly" refers to Columbine, that horrible period of time, and its aftermath will always overshadow everything. Sure, forgetting what happened will be impossible, but we also must not water down its effect. ------Original Message------ Sent: July 7, 2000 11:26:23 AM GMT > their children are into. Making a bomb in the > garage, You kind of indirectly brought up the Columbine incident with the "bomb in the garage" comment which I am kind of disappointed in. It's been over a year, and I think that we have to accept this event and move on. It's probably the only way we can move forward. I'm speaking personally, but I didn't really appreciate the reference. ===== -Ryan (who else?) "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here." ...Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Peanuts Factor...? Date: 14 Jul 2000 06:21:05 -0400 (EDT) In many of the WB's shows, the parents aren't major players. Maybe the writers feel that having the parents play a bigger role in these program will either take away viewers, create writer's block, force them to write on more topics facing us youngins today, create huge budgets, and the like... I think all these writers are Charles Schultz fans, who may have had one of the most popular story lines of all times. jtv ------Original Message------ Sent: July 6, 2000 3:38:06 PM GMT In early episodes, the parents were *much* more visible, and there were other waitresses at the Crashdown--Agnes comes to mind. But you're right; the parents just haven't been around much lately. Now, www.roswellscripts.com has the original scripts from season one, complete with the stuff they edited out for time. And the Destiny script does contain a reference to all the parents freaking out over all six (Tess's "parent" knew where she was) kids disappearing, which several people on the boards thought would have added a nice touch. Maybe it's me, but does anybody remember the parents being around much post-Sexual Healing? And given the way Max's and Liz's parents reacted to *those* activities, it would have done a lot for reality if we'd seen something about Max's parents losing it when he disappeared from the carnival. *sigh* Oh well, we rarely saw much of the parents in Buffy's world either.... Chantel FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan D." Subject: Re: [roswell] Peanuts Factor...? Date: 14 Jul 2000 05:50:26 -0700 (PDT) --- JTV wrote: > In many of the WB's shows, the parents aren't major > players. Maybe the > writers feel that having the parents play a bigger > role in these program > will either take away viewers, create writer's > block, force them to write on > more topics facing us youngins today, create huge > budgets, and the like... Um, actually the show would tend to focus on the *stars*. Since the parents aren't the stars of the show and the show doesn't focus on them, they wouldn't be major players. I think it's more to a directed audience. Teens watch shows about teens. Adults watch shows about adults. "Once and Again" on ABC Monday nights is kind of a revolutionary show in that it has over a dozen characters, teens and adults, and each week they focus on only one or two people. I think it's better to focus on the same few people for one show, even though I really love "Once and Again." The Snoopy reference is cute, but I don't think the reason the writers of Roswell and other teen shows leave out the parents in ever episode because they are Charles Schultz fans. Although, anything's possible :-) ===== -Ryan (who else?) "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here." ...Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debhanza@aol.com Subject: [roswell] Roswell - Dido Sightings! Date: 16 Jul 2000 15:46:19 EDT Dido is becoming more popular all the time! I have always loved the Roswell theme song. I have had two unexpected hearing of "Here with me." The first occured a couple weeks ago. I was in a tack shop (place you buy stuff for horses) in New Hampshire, and on the radio what do I hear - but Dido's "Here with me." I was shocked and totally excited that it was being played on the radio. I am a die hard Roswell fan so it just made my day! Unfortunately, I have no idea what radio station was playing but I liked the other songs that were on that channel. My second sighting happened yesterday when I was watching a tape of my soap, As The World Turns. One of the characters turned on the new Dido CD, and said they really liked the song "Here with me," and the other said they had never heard of her, but that it was nice. They played another song by her later on. Pretty cool, I'm glad shes getting some publicity. Debhanza@aol.com If you are interested and missed it on the Crashdown- Dido, the Artist Who's BUZZ is Breaking Coast to Coast Critically Acclaimed 'No Angel' Debut Continues to Embrace Radio & live audiences nationwide Updated 9:03 AM ET July 7, 2000 NEW YORK (ENTERTAINMENT WIRE) - Arista recording artist Dido is returning to the U.S. to headline a tour and embark on an intensive promo schedule in support of the debut self-titled album & the current "buzz" single, "Here With Me." The itinerary will include radio shows, station visits, television and a headlining tour that will end in NYC in August 21 at Roseland. The singer-songwriter has enjoyed the groundswell of fans that have embraced her debut album scanning over 250,000 albums to date. As follows are some points of interest: - Dido debut/current single "Here With Me" is the theme for the TV series Roswell. - Dido is the only artist featured on the new Eminem album. - Dido opens for Sting on the West Coast/August 2000. - Dido headlines her own tour starting July 30th. (schedule as follows) DIDO NORTH AMERICAN TOUR ITINERARY July 30 Portland, ME July 31 Washington, DC 9:30 Club Aug 1 Boston, MA Avalon Aug 3 Chicago, IL VIC Aug 4 Minneapolis, MN The Quest Aug 7 Seattle, WA Showbox Aug 8 Portland, OR Aladdin Aug 10 San Francisco, CA Warfield Aug 11 Los Angeles, CA The Greek w/ Sting Aug 12 Los Angeles, CA The Greek w/ Sting Aug 14 Los Angeles, CA John Anson Ford Aug 17 Houston, TX Numbers Aug 18 Austin, TX Music Hall Aug 20 Atlanta, GA Variety Aug 21 New York, NY Roseland "A heavenly debut," raved TIME magazine; "[her] voice is undeniably lovely" affirmed Time Out NY; "lovely sonic intimacy" echoed Entertainment Weekly; while Request declared, "Dido's complex lyrics and performance demand rapt attention and emotional commitment from listeners." FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT www.arista.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Summer break...? Date: 19 Jul 2000 06:14:14 -0400 (EDT) I tend not to watch television that much during the summer. Mostly due to the reruns which I have already seen. Shows like The X-Files, Roswell, BtVS, Angel, though this is the first "summer" for Roswell and Angel, lose me during the summer because, these shows are series and not like Law & Order, where one episode may have nothing to do with the next or last. I do tune in when there is an episode I prefer to see again. I "recruit" new viewers during the summer months, especially those who may have watched an episode or two during the regular season. I do make a point of taping the season finale of the past season, watching it right before the first show of the new season aires. To all you new viewers, keep watching. To all the veterans, go have some fun, not implying that watching reruns are not fun :) jtv FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan D." Subject: [roswell] Alex's Musical Instrument: Setting the Record Label Straight Date: 22 Jul 2000 18:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Well, everyone knows how much I just *luv* to post and think I'm all right and stuff, but I'm not the only one. I have my best friend Emily that I've shown the greatness of Roswell to- and it has been good. She would like to rant a little about Alex and his "misinterpreted" idea about his *bass*. Here she is: Okay, I know this is all, like, petty and crap, but everywhere I see people referring to Alex playing his guitar: in fan-fiction, in re-caps of episodes, all over the internet. The only problem with this is that Alex doesn't play the guitar; he plays the bass. Watch "Blood Brother" and "Blind Date" again; he's sitting there playing a bass, not a guitar. There are two other guys in "The Whits" who play the guitar, one on rhythm and the other on lead (I can't remember their names), and Maria even looks at Alex and says something about turning down the reverb on the bass. So, in conclusion, Alex plays the bass, not the guitar. Thank you. I'll get off my soapbox now. ~Emily ===== -Ryan (who else?) "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here." ...Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chantel Reynolds Subject: [roswell] Campaign updates Date: 22 Jul 2000 19:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Hey gang, Just giving the update on the campaign. Again, all this information is listed on the fanforum Roswell2 board for anyone's perusal, but a number of people don't have much time to check out the board these days.... The Silver Handprints and Orbs are still going to happen, and webpages are being constructed to explain the details regarding those 'waves.' However, at this time, nobody is supposed to send a handprint anywhere. WB has heard the fans--hey, we got the 13 didn't we?--but sending anything to their offices right now might actually annoy them. So instead of mailing to those offices, the initial campaign is a sponsor blitz. Two or three times each week, three new sponsors will be listed on the fanforum board. Every fan is asked to email/submit a feedback form thanking the sponsor for their support of Roswell. I will try and post the new sponsor information as I see it. This weekend kicks off the sponsor blitz with these three: Cotton Inc at http://www.cottoninc.com/Feedback/homepage.cfm?PAGE=69 KSwiss Trainers at ace@kswiss.com Victoria's Secret at http://www.victoriassecret.com/vsc/html/custsrvc/getintouch/index.html Clicking on the comments and suggestions link will get you the form. Off to email a sponsor.... Chantel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Campaign updates Date: 23 Jul 2000 15:49:45 -0500 Thanks for letting us know. This is the only Roswell list I read on a regular basis, so I rely on people like yourself to keep me abreast of such things, so thanks. ;) So, I don't know what other people are saying, but I agree that it's probably a good idea not to annoy the network execs at this time. But I did make my contribution to letting the sponsors know that we'll support them, if they continue to support Roswell. :) Let us know more about the handprint thing (or where we can find out more). Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FinchRoswell@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Alex's Musical Instrument: Setting the Record Label Straight Date: 23 Jul 2000 19:07:15 EDT Hey, it's ice to see that it bothers someone else!! I can't help it but i was getting sick of people not realizing that he does in fact play the bass and not the guitar!! Thanks Emily!! *Lindsay* Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chantel Reynolds Subject: [roswell] campaign update--press and media Date: 26 Jul 2000 20:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Hey gang, I copied the following information straight from the Crashdown--typing all this in just wasn't gonna happen! However, the information given is simply for the PRESS campaign. I'll have the new addresses for emailing the SPONSORS in a little while. Chantel ********************************************* Roswell: We Believe - Campaign Update Plans for the campaign are well underway, and we will be ready to start the first phases by this weekend. This will involve campaigning to press and media sites, sponsors, and recruiting new viewers. We have a lot planned up until the Season 2 Premiere, and during the season. Come on over to the Roswell 2 message board for more info! Important Update: We have been advised that some groups are already starting to send handprints and other items to the WB. Please do not send anything to the network yet! We have "insider information" from someone associated with the show that everyone there is supportive of us campaigning for publicity and viewership right now, but that sending anything to the WB at this point could prove to be harmful to our cause. It's really great to see all the enthusiasm and effort that has gone into this campaign so far, and it is already evident that we are going to make a huge impact on keeping Roswell on the air for a long time to come. We need to focus and unite our efforts to impacting the media, sponsors and new viewers - and gear up for the mailings to come once the season starts. Announcement for Snail-Mail campaign O.K. Ready, everyone?! The first phase of the silver handprint campaign involves mailing handprints to specified press/media. We are starting NOW with Entertainment Weekly and TV Guide. There will be 2 new targets probably every 2 weeks, so please stay tuned and stock up on your handprints! Handprints: should be simple; a silver handprint (with paint or silver ink) on a piece of black paper - construction or tagboard. Somewhere on the page it should say in silver ink Roswell and We Believe. *Attach a short handwritten note stating our cause to see a cover story/feature story on Roswell!* Send to: Mr. Ken Tucker Editorial Office Entertainment Weekly 1675 Broadway New York, NY 10019 TV Guide Mr. Matt Roush 1211 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10036 *And please publicize this information on as many other Roswell sites/boards/clubs as you can! Thank you!* LET THE MAILING BEGIN! Announcment for E-mail campaign! Coinciding with the silver handprint campaign to the press/media is the email campaign to press/media. We are starting NOW with Entertainment Weekly, TV Guide and People. There will be 2-3 new targets every week so please stay tuned! In your letters request that the magazine do a cover story/feature story on Roswell. Send to: Entertainment Weekly letters@ew.com TV Guide tvg.customer.service@tvguide.com People editor@people.com LET THE EMAILING BEGIN! *And please publicize this information on as many other Roswell sites/boards/clubs as you can. Thank you!* For progress information on both campaigns, please visit the Roswell 2 Message Board. ===== Program Specialist Santa Fe Community College 6401 Richards Avenue Santa Fe, NM 87505 505-428-1633/505-428-1338 (fax) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chantel Reynolds Subject: [roswell] Sponsors campaign update Date: 26 Jul 2000 20:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Hola again! Okay, here's the latest addresses for the sponsors campaign. If you have a sec, submit a "thanks for sponsoring Roswell" on their sites. http://www.mentos.com/coolchews/index.html http://www.loreal.com/us/tools/contct/index.asp PHIPublicRelations@pizzahut.com So my understanding, and somebody correct me if I'm faulty here, but the campaign has mutated into several components. Before the season starts, the focus is recruiting new viewers, flooding the press and media with requests to that they do cover articles on Roswell (or thanking them if they already have), and then hitting the sponsors with supportive messages. Snail mail versions request we send the silver handprints. The network won't 'hear' from us until after the season starts, and I think that's going to involve more handprints and the orbs too. Anyway, I'm doing my best to keep up with all this.... Chantel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "hayley willis" Subject: [roswell] dido music Date: 27 Jul 2000 16:22:14 +0930 does anyone know where I can get guitar music for any of Dido's songs?? -----Original Message----- >Hola again! > >Okay, here's the latest addresses for the sponsors >campaign. If you have a sec, submit a "thanks for >sponsoring Roswell" on their sites. > > >http://www.mentos.com/coolchews/index.html >http://www.loreal.com/us/tools/contct/index.asp >PHIPublicRelations@pizzahut.com > > >So my understanding, and somebody correct me if I'm >faulty here, but the campaign has mutated into several >components. Before the season starts, the focus is >recruiting new viewers, flooding the press and media >with requests to that they do cover articles on >Roswell (or thanking them if they already have), and >then hitting the sponsors with supportive messages. >Snail mail versions request we send the silver >handprints. > >The network won't 'hear' from us until after the >season starts, and I think that's going to involve >more handprints and the orbs too. > >Anyway, I'm doing my best to keep up with all this.... > >Chantel > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "hayley willis" Subject: [roswell] guitar music for Dido Date: 27 Jul 2000 16:23:49 +0930 does anyone know where I can get the guitar music for any of Dido's songs? thanks Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LaneyGuerin@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] guitar music for Dido Date: 27 Jul 2000 10:00:18 EDT In a message dated 7/27/00 1:50:29 AM Central Daylight Time, hayleyw@iweb.net.au writes: << does anyone know where I can get the guitar music for any of Dido's songs? thanks >> I have looked and looked and looked...and at least in any official form, you still can't buy it. The guys at Suncoast must be starting to hate me since I ask every time I'm there. :) But I'd check around on the internet. You might be able to find the tabs somewhere. Would you let me know if you find anything though? -Kris Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FinchRoswell@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] dido music Date: 28 Jul 2000 17:50:23 EDT Could someone give me the address on how to make the orbs again, because I lost the directions. Thanks!!! Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chantel Reynolds Subject: Re: [roswell] dido music Date: 28 Jul 2000 15:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Orb instructions.... Essentially, you can go to any craft store such as Hobby Lobby, and buy an oval shaped wooden object, along with some spray paint. Some people layer several different colors of paint together, but I think a basic silver would do just fine. Spray paint your 'easter egg' and then take a darker color of paint (black I guess) and trace the alien symbol on it. Now you can get really creative and use an Easter egg that opens up. Spray paint that, and put some kind of wacky message inside the egg, maybe a We Believe note or something. However, I'm going to have a hard enough time explaining oval orbs to kith and kin, so I'll be avoiding the jack-in-the-box approach... Better instructions exist on the NORoswellCancellation egroup. Chantel --- FinchRoswell@aol.com wrote: > Could someone give me the address on how to make the > orbs again, because I > lost the directions. > > Thanks!!! > > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for > help and info. > ===== Program Specialist Santa Fe Community College 6401 Richards Avenue Santa Fe, NM 87505 505-428-1633/505-428-1338 (fax) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info.