From: owner-roswell-digest@lists.xmission.com (roswell-digest) To: roswell-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roswell-digest V1 #51 Reply-To: roswell-digest Sender: owner-roswell-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roswell-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roswell-digest Friday, July 7 2000 Volume 01 : Number 051 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:01:58 PDT From: "Kelly Girl" Subject: Re: [roswell] Howie D well i am more of an N'sync gal.... luvin' some BSB songs, but i do not know their names. so, what is Howie D's role going to be? kellygirl P.S. does anyone know that the next eppie is going to be? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:51:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ryan D." Subject: Re: [roswell] Howie D > well i am more of an N'sync gal.... Okay, Justin was a little corny in ABC's "Model Behavior" but can you imagine how much better "Destiny" would have been it would have been Justin at the end and not stinky Howie from the Backstreet Boys!? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 21:42:30 -0700 From: "DeCarskyJandN" Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell @ Great America Hi, I was just going throgh my e-mails and of course was reading yours, and I was there also, I live in the bay area, it was great fun and I have pics. of me and them too. maybe you could send me one of your pics. and I can send you one of mine. Maybe I saw you there? e-mail me back if your interested. I need a Roswell friend around here I can talk Roswellian too. Sincearly, Nicole - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sorcerer" To: Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 9:49 PM Subject: [roswell] Roswell @ Great America > It was supposed to be Nick and Majandra at Great > America, but Shiri, Emilie, and Nick Wechsler made an > appearance at Great America. I heard Majandra hurt > her eye some how. Anyway they arrived at the park > around 4:30pm and was originally at 4, they were stuck > in traffic coming from San Francisco. They also went > to SFO to their hotel to check out. I took some > pictures of Shiri and Nick. Emilie left for a while > to ride the "Stealth" with some fans. A friend of > mine took a picture of me and Shiri, I also got some > signed picture from Shiri and Nick. Once I develop my > pictures, I'll probably post them up for you guys to > check out. For now they signed these post cards. > > http://www.advantage2you.net/donnas1/other_files/roswell_pics/shiri_sig.jpg > > http://www.advantage2you.net/donnas1/other_files/roswell_pics/nick_sig.jpg > > > ===== > Sorcerer > http://thedonnas.cjb.net > AIM: Sorcerer05 > ICQ# 50567127 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:39:38 -0700 From: "Ronda Ploughman" Subject: Re: [roswell] Howie D I think he will have a recurring role as a bad alien and since he was only on the last three seconds of destiny, it won't start till next season..... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Girl" To: Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [roswell] Howie D > well i am more of an N'sync gal.... > luvin' some BSB songs, but i do not know their names. > so, what is Howie D's role going to be? > kellygirl > P.S. does anyone know that the next eppie is going to be? > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:33:59 -0400 (EDT) From: JTV Subject: [roswell] No converters, but...! I haven't tried any converting techniques, but I am discovering a lot of closet Roswell fans. Sometimes merely bring up the show, during a conversation, allows those who watch the show but feel they are alone in Roswell Land, to let the Roswellite out. If anything, getting them to join a Roswell message board is even harder, which doens't make much sense! jtv - ------Original Message------ From: "Kelly Girl" To: roswell@lists.xmission.com Sent: June 20, 2000 1:25:39 AM GMT Subject: [roswell] whoo-hoo! i have a convert who else has converted a friend or family or co-worker to watch Roswell? and which ep *did* it for them? kellygirl - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:47:17 -0400 (EDT) From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Spoiler?? - Season 2 SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE For those of us who watch the WB on Tuesday night, the question of whether Topolski will return next season may have been answered on the season finale of... jtv - ------Original Message------ From: "Mike Stone" To: roswell@lists.xmission.com Sent: May 9, 2000 11:04:46 PM GMT Subject: RE: [roswell] Season 2 ??? Well, I've 'heard' plenty that the ratings have been great since they moved it to Mondays, but I haven't seen anything official myself. If the ratings are staying around 5-6.0, there's little reason, I think, why they should c@ncel it... unless Jason Katims miffed someone off at the WB. :) Just like we didn't see Topolsky die, I wonder if either will show up next season? - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:56:31 EDT From: DaniLynn27@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] No converters, but...! << who else has converted a friend or family or co-worker to watch Roswell? and which ep *did* it for them? >> Well, I'm the converted here :) I watched the pilot and couldn't get into it, but then all my friends started watching it and told me I *had* to start watching it. So I watched "285 South" with them (that's what it was called, right?) and that was it, I was hooked. Mostly thanks to Michael and Maria, those two cracked me up in the way they were interacting with each other. And then I spotted someone on the Xmission buffylist subbed to a Roswell list so I asked for subbing instructions and here I am! Dani Get Home Before Dark - www.gethomebeforedark.com ======================================== Buffy: "Your logic does not resemble our earth logic." Xander: "Mine is much more advanced." (The Wish) ======================================== - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:00:22 -0400 (EDT) From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Roswell dollars...? I didn't know one could sale things here in Roswell Land. But one had to know, sooner or later, e-commerce would hit our island!! jtv - ------Original Message------ From: ~!shayla!~ To: WBsROSWELL@onelist.com, RoswellTV@onelist.com, Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com, RoswellSmut@onelist.com, RoswellontheWB@onelist.com, Roswell-L@onelist.com, roswellites@onelist.com, Roswellians@onelist.com, RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com, roswell@lists.xmission.com, max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com, max-and-liz@onelist.com, JasonBehr@onelist.com, jason_behr@onelist.com, All-Roswell@onelist.com, 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com, 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com, 123Roswell@onelist.com, Mel , roswell@lists.xmission.com Sent: June 14, 2000 12:18:33 AM GMT Subject: [roswell] roswell photos hi everyone... i have a bunch of glossy 8 by 10 photos...i would like to sell some of these because i have to many! (lol)....the 8 by 10 glossy photos cost an average of $10.00 each...if anyone is interested in buying one or some of the photos email me at alienshay2484@go.com and we will discuss prices etc.... shayla have a great day!!!! - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:13:21 -0400 (EDT) From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Give Up...? In the beginning, Roswell was about three aliens trying to survive on a planet where they were "alone." Trying to fit in to a world that they knew was not theirs. As the show progressed, I thought I was looking at another Dawson's Creek, 90210, and the like. The show seemed to center around the intimate moments between Liz and Max. **The shows writers were asking themselves...How many times during the next hour can we have Liz and Max all over each other? Don't get me wrong, intimacy is a good thing. Prior to the last two or three, which were more sci fi then anything, the show had the appropriate mix. You had your sci fi, mystery, intimacy, and comedy all in tandem. There will never be another X-Files! There may be another Friends! If Roswell can stay right in the middle, it will last as long as the story allows it to. jtv - ------Original Message------ From: Chantel Reynolds To: roswell@lists.xmission.com Sent: June 14, 2000 7:14:33 PM GMT Subject: Re: [roswell] We Shouldn't Give Up So Easily - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! 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Either the parents are extremely permissive, or we're expected to believe the gang just talks their way out of getting into trouble each time! Martha - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:23:28 EDT From: JEEPY91@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Spoiler?? - Season 2 In a message dated 7/1/00 4:47:47 PM !!!First Boot!!!, cptroc@email.com writes: << SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE SPOILER SPACE For those of us who watch the WB on Tuesday night, the question of whether Topolski will return next season may have been answered on the season finale of... >> s p o i l e r s p a c e She's back as Darla on Angel! I like Julie Benz, as Toplosky and Darla Jeepy - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:19:26 -0500 From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Roswell dollars...? > I didn't know one could sale things here in Roswell Land. But one had to > know, sooner or later, e-commerce would hit our island!! Since it's Roswell-related, I'll let it slide. But you'd be surprised at how many non-members try to submit mass mail advertisements! - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:25:40 -0500 From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] No converters, but...! > So I watched "285 South" with them and that was it, > I was hooked. I was okay with all the episodes, but I think for me, it was in Blood Brother and Toy House when I felt the show had significant potential. I've heard no spoilers for what's in store for us next season, however. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:53:48 -0500 From: Marti Dunston Subject: Re: [roswell] parents haven't a clue Roswell kids seem to be running around with a familial relationship based on trust. Lucky for our plot line! Roswell is enjoyable fiction and that's all we can expect it to be. Something I keep trying to overlook is that Liz is always leaving the restaurant un staffed! Does Liz run that restaurant or what? I never see her parents working there. What's up with that? How many hours does she put in? Argh! I just have to cool it and realize I'm being obsessive. The restaurant isn't real. It's there for a convenient meeting place, and occasional humor. Love the menu. Sadly, in 'real life', there are lots of families where there is no need for subterfuge or trust. The parents just couldn't care less where or what their children are into. Making a bomb in the garage, ordering automatic guns, cutting up the neighbor's daughter for convenient disposal, are all recent examples of our society's 'lack of parental involvement' with their children. Brrr. At 01:21 PM 7/1/00 -0400, you wrote: >I think the writers have a thing for Peanuts, when it comes to the parents. >Though Peanuts have the occasional "WHA WHA" voice, Roswell has an >occasional appearance of a parent, not counting the sheriff. > >jtv > > >------Original Message------ >From: Martha Jackson >To: roswell@lists.xmission.com >Sent: June 22, 2036 9:32:07 PM GMT >Subject: Re: [roswell] "What happens now?. . ." > >Hi Adam, >Welcome to the list! There are pretty much no parental repercussions ever in >this series, no matter what happens! Either the parents are extremely >permissive, or we're expected to believe the gang just talks their way out >of getting into trouble each time! > >Martha Marti *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* "Dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never going to hurt." - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:49:38 PDT From: "Harmony Cadien" Subject: [none] Ok, so I know this is once again untimely, but I have a question about the Crazy episode. I was watching it today with the little girl I babysitt for (who by the way loves the show and me for taping all the episodes since she had never heard of it before, she's getting caught up this summer) and was a little confused. I think when I watched it the first time I was confused as well, but figured everything would pan out by the end of the season. Well it didn't, at least not for me, after I watched this episode again. Ok, now that I have just confused everyone reading this and myself even more, I'll get on with why I'm confused. Here goes. Nasedo posed as the psychiatric doctor that was supposed to be taking care of Topolsky in Maryland. Why? What reason did he do this for? It seemed like Topolsky was trying to help the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be her doctor? If anyone has any feedback to offer on this, it would be appreciated. I am beyond perplexed. Thanks. Harmony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:50:10 PDT From: "Harmony Cadien" Subject: [roswell] feedback please!! Ok, so I know this is once again untimely, but I have a question about the Crazy episode. I was watching it today with the little girl I babysitt for (who by the way loves the show and me for taping all the episodes since she had never heard of it before, she's getting caught up this summer) and was a little confused. I think when I watched it the first time I was confused as well, but figured everything would pan out by the end of the season. Well it didn't, at least not for me, after I watched this episode again. Ok, now that I have just confused everyone reading this and myself even more, I'll get on with why I'm confused. Here goes. Nasedo posed as the psychiatric doctor that was supposed to be taking care of Topolsky in Maryland. Why? What reason did he do this for? It seemed like Topolsky was trying to help the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be her doctor? If anyone has any feedback to offer on this, it would be appreciated. I am beyond perplexed. Thanks. Harmony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:40:28 -0700 From: "Ronda Ploughman" Subject: [roswell] Re: We're not sure if it was Nacedo. It could be the other alien that was in the crash, or it could be one of the evil shapeshifting aliens the podsters will be fighting in the new season. Hope that helps! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harmony Cadien" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 8:49 PM > Ok, so I know this is once again untimely, but I have a question about the > Crazy episode. I was watching it today with the little girl I babysitt for > (who by the way loves the show and me for taping all the episodes since she > had never heard of it before, she's getting caught up this summer) and was a > little confused. I think when I watched it the first time I was confused as > well, but figured everything would pan out by the end of the season. Well it > didn't, at least not for me, after I watched this episode again. Ok, now > that I have just confused everyone reading this and myself even more, I'll > get on with why I'm confused. Here goes. Nasedo posed as the psychiatric > doctor that was supposed to be taking care of Topolsky in Maryland. Why? > What reason did he do this for? It seemed like Topolsky was trying to help > the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be her doctor? If anyone > has any feedback to offer on this, it would be appreciated. I am beyond > perplexed. Thanks. > > Harmony > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:06:24 -0400 (EDT) From: JTV Subject: RE: [roswell] feedback please!! Was Topolsky not picked up, or captured, later in that same episode. Maybe Nasedo posed as her psychiatric doctor to keep the "pod squad" from getting to close to her. This may have kept them from being captured as well. If you believe Nasedo's whole protector angle. Was it not reported that she died later on? jtv - ------Original Message------ From: "Harmony Cadien" To: roswell@lists.xmission.com Sent: July 6, 2000 3:50:10 AM GMT Subject: [roswell] feedback please!! ...Nasedo posed as the psychiatric doctor that was supposed to be taking care of Topolsky in Maryland. Why? What reason did he do this for? It seemed like Topolsky was trying to help the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be her doctor? If anyone has any feedback to offer on this, it would be appreciated. I am beyond perplexed. Thanks. Harmony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chantel Reynolds Subject: Re: [roswell] parents haven't a clue In early episodes, the parents were *much* more visible, and there were other waitresses at the Crashdown--Agnes comes to mind. But you're right; the parents just haven't been around much lately. Now, www.roswellscripts.com has the original scripts from season one, complete with the stuff they edited out for time. And the Destiny script does contain a reference to all the parents freaking out over all six (Tess's "parent" knew where she was) kids disappearing, which several people on the boards thought would have added a nice touch. Maybe it's me, but does anybody remember the parents being around much post-Sexual Healing? And given the way Max's and Liz's parents reacted to *those* activities, it would have done a lot for reality if we'd seen something about Max's parents losing it when he disappeared from the carnival. *sigh* Oh well, we rarely saw much of the parents in Buffy's world either.... Chantel - --- Marti Dunston wrote: > Roswell kids seem to be running around with a > familial relationship based > on trust. Lucky for our plot line! > > Roswell is enjoyable fiction and that's all we can > expect it to be. > Something I keep trying to overlook is that Liz is > always leaving the > restaurant un staffed! Does Liz run that restaurant > or what? I never see > her parents working there. What's up with that? > How many hours does she > put in? Argh! I just have to cool it and realize > I'm being obsessive. > The restaurant isn't real. It's there for a > convenient meeting place, and > occasional humor. Love the menu. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer Subject: [roswell] Re: crazy question I was wondering the exact same thing the other day. That episode was confusing, what happens to Topolsky? She is killed right? Was the fire an accident or did the FBI set it? Was she really nuts because everything she said turned out to be true. And if she wasn't nuts why was she in the insitution? Why did Nasedo pose as the doctor when Topolsky was telling the truth and trying to help them? Sorry for all the questions but that episode wasn't very clear. :) - --- Harmony Cadien wrote: > Ok, so I know this is once again untimely, but I > have a question about the > Crazy episode. I was watching it today with the > little girl I babysitt for > (who by the way loves the show and me for taping all > the episodes since she > had never heard of it before, she's getting caught > up this summer) and was a > little confused. I think when I watched it the first > time I was confused as > well, but figured everything would pan out by the > end of the season. Well it > didn't, at least not for me, after I watched this > episode again. Ok, now > that I have just confused everyone reading this and > myself even more, I'll > get on with why I'm confused. Here goes. Nasedo > posed as the psychiatric > doctor that was supposed to be taking care of > Topolsky in Maryland. Why? > What reason did he do this for? It seemed like > Topolsky was trying to help > the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be > her doctor? If anyone > has any feedback to offer on this, it would be > appreciated. I am beyond > perplexed. Thanks. > > Harmony > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for > help and info. > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 09:35:42 +1200 From: Alison Subject: Re: [roswell] Re: crazy question Topolsky wasn't nuts, she was telling the truth - the FBI put her in a mental institution so they could classify her as insane, and therefore no one would believe her stories. It was Nasedo who turned up, because he knew that Pierce was on Topolsky's tail - which would've led Pierce to the kids. So he lied about Topolsky in order to protect them. As we know, Nasedo doesn't care about who gets hurt, so long as the kids are safe. Alison At 14:18 6/07/00 -0700, you wrote: >I was wondering the exact same thing the other day. >That episode was confusing, what happens to Topolsky? >She is killed right? Was the fire an accident or did >the FBI set it? Was she really nuts because everything >she said turned out to be true. And if she wasn't nuts >why was she in the insitution? Why did Nasedo pose as >the doctor when Topolsky was telling the truth and >trying to help them? >Sorry for all the questions but that episode wasn't >very clear. :) >--- Harmony Cadien wrote: > > Ok, so I know this is once again untimely, but I > > have a question about the > > Crazy episode. I was watching it today with the > > little girl I babysitt for > > (who by the way loves the show and me for taping all > > the episodes since she > > had never heard of it before, she's getting caught > > up this summer) and was a > > little confused. I think when I watched it the first > > time I was confused as > > well, but figured everything would pan out by the > > end of the season. Well it > > didn't, at least not for me, after I watched this > > episode again. Ok, now > > that I have just confused everyone reading this and > > myself even more, I'll > > get on with why I'm confused. Here goes. Nasedo > > posed as the psychiatric > > doctor that was supposed to be taking care of > > Topolsky in Maryland. Why? > > What reason did he do this for? It seemed like > > Topolsky was trying to help > > the "pod squad," so what's with him pretending to be > > her doctor? If anyone > > has any feedback to offer on this, it would be > > appreciated. I am beyond > > perplexed. Thanks. > > > > Harmony > > >________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for > > help and info. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com/ > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. >---------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:26:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ryan D." Subject: [roswell] Parent and Columbine You brought up how Liz's parents trust her, something I'm sure they do with the restaurant. We see Liz running the restaurant a lot, but I think it's pretty much an after-school job for her. We only see a short fraction of what the characters do when we see an hour long show, so you have to assume that when we aren't seeing Liz running the restaurant, that's when her parents are. > Sadly, in 'real life', there are lots of families > where there is no need > for subterfuge or trust. The parents just couldn't > care less where or what > their children are into. Making a bomb in the > garage, ordering automatic > guns, cutting up the neighbor's daughter for > convenient disposal, are all > recent examples of our society's 'lack of parental > involvement' with their > children. Brrr. You kind of indirectly brought up the Columbine incident with the "bomb in the garage" comment which I am kind of disappointed in. It's been over a year, and I think that we have to accept this event and move on. It's probably the only way we can move forward. I'm speaking personally, but I didn't really appreciate the reference. ===== - -Ryan (who else?) "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here." ...Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:35:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ryan D." Subject: [roswell] More Parents- Roswell and Buffy You got to remember that it's a budgetary thing, too. It probably costs extra to pay the parents to appear in an episode. If they're not an integral part of the story, as they were in "Sexual Healing", then there's really no point. Did anyone ever notice that Max and Isabel's dad was one guy in "The Morning After" than he was when he showed up in "Into the Woods" and "Sexual Healing"? Maybe Nacedo was keeping a close eye than they think... > *sigh* Oh well, we rarely saw much of the parents in > Buffy's world either.... Hmmm... I think that's because aside from Joyce (Buffy's mom) none of the parents cared. Xander came from a dead-beat family, while Willow's were too busy being reknowned psychologists. On the up side, we did get to see Sheila, Willow's mom, in "Gingerbread" and Xander's dad in "Restless" albeit breifly. Buffy dad showed up twice early on, but I have to agree with you when it comes to Cordelia. She only mentions her parents a few times... WELCOME TO THE HELLMOUTH Talks about her mom having "chronic fatigue syndrome" PHASES "Daddy just had this car detailed!" And the whole thing about how her parents lost all the money, even though we never find out what happens to them... Thanks for listeing __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:37:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ryan D." Subject: Re: [roswell] Re: crazy question > It was Nasedo who > turned up, because he knew > that Pierce was on Topolsky's tail - which would've > led Pierce to the kids. > So he lied about Topolsky in order to protect them. > As we know, Nasedo > doesn't care about who gets hurt, so long as the > kids are safe. I was trying to think of a plausible explanation, but coming up short. I just have to say, good job Allison! This is the best answer ever! ===== - -Ryan (who else?) "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat, "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here." ...Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:54:22 -0500 From: Marti Dunston Subject: [roswell] OT-Roswell: Warning-Rant about Ryan's 'smackdown' Ryan, response to your 1st paragraph: Roswell is a great TV show. But it's a TV show! Maybe this is my fault. Perhaps I was too vague in my attempt at writing a humorous and entertaining post. I got carried away and I forgot not everyone is aware of these character's as actors. It's like this you see, who cares who runs the restaurant when it's off camera (or as you referred to it, "when we >aren't seeing Liz running the restaurant)? There is no restaurant. It's a plot device. response to your 2nd paragraph: :RANT: How insensitive of you to swing a smackdown at someone you know nothing about! Firstly, the "bomb in the garage" I referred to was about Illinois! Secondly, it was an example, along with two other incidents, to make a point about the Roswell 'topic' under discussion. In no way was I exploiting, or referring to, any particular incident in recent history. Geez Ryan, I didn't even know bombs had been used in the Columbine High School Incident in Littleton, Colorado (aha, I did some research). In all the news reports I read the assailants were referred to as the "gunmen" and the "shooters". I had to dig a little to discover that the assailants had also made pipe bombs and something called a "20 lb. propane bomb". I confess I quit digging after that so I don't really know if anyone was killed by a bomb, or if they made their bombs in a garage. My mind is tickled, tee hee, about some reference to an informal shooting range way out from town? But the tickles don't help the memory much, just irritate it! Most of the references seemed to indicate the victims were shot by "low quality weapons" (shotguns and pistols). That was a lot more information than I needed to know, but, it was all there for anyone to find. (Additionally, there were some very sensitive and nurturing memorial sites dedicated to the incident. I'm sure they were developed as a cathartic exercise for survivors, family's of victims, and anyone traumatized, or in otherwise affected, by this dreadful incident. If you are still so strongly affected by this incident after 1 year and 2 months, you might want to check them out.) Also, I made three separate references to (fairly) recent crimes committed by adolescents. Do you realize how you denigrate the other incidents by only mentioning one of them? Are the other crimes less horrific because they mean nothing to you? You stated "we have to accept this event and move on.". Who is not accepting the event here Ryan? Do you really think the rest of the world should just not mention it ever again? Is that how you hope to teach your children some day? I am sorry for your pain. But do you really think policing what people say is the right way to deal with it? Would you like to enforce censorship on all unpleasant subjects? Finally, if you must point out to everyone that someone has "indirectly" made a reference to something you don't like and that you don't "appreciate" it, try to inject some humor, or at least colorful references into your 'smackdowns'. How about cliches? Sugar coating helps the medicine go down, you can catch more flies with honey, etc. Or better yet, think them over first and then decide if you really want that nasty foot-in-the-mouth taste that follows when we share our prejudices with the world, or, 'er, list. P.S. Please flame me off list. Show some respect for the other LISTeners. Also, it's draining be this coherent for longer than 50 words or more...I'm pooped. :OFF RANT: At 04:26 AM 7/7/00 -0700, you wrote: > You brought up how Liz's parents trust her, >something I'm sure they do with the restaurant. We see >Liz running the restaurant a lot, but I think it's >pretty much an after-school job for her. We only see a >short fraction of what the characters do when we see >an hour long show, so you have to assume that when we >aren't seeing Liz running the restaurant, that's when >her parents are. > >> Sadly, in 'real life', there are lots of families >> where there is no need >> for subterfuge or trust. The parents just couldn't >> care less where or what >> their children are into. Making a bomb in the >> garage, ordering automatic >> guns, cutting up the neighbor's daughter for >> convenient disposal, are all >> recent examples of our society's 'lack of parental >> involvement' with their >> children. Brrr. > > You kind of indirectly brought up the Columbine >incident with the "bomb in the garage" comment which I >am kind of disappointed in. It's been over a year, and >I think that we have to accept this event and move on. >It's probably the only way we can move forward. > I'm speaking personally, but I didn't really >appreciate the reference. > >===== >-Ryan Marti ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I've never really made a conscious effort to collect books. 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