From: owner-thmi-fms-digest@lists.xmission.com (thmi-fms-digest) To: thmi-fms-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: thmi-fms-digest V1 #2 Reply-To: thmi-fms-digest Sender: owner-thmi-fms-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-thmi-fms-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk thmi-fms-digest Friday, December 21 2001 Volume 01 : Number 002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:53:28 -0800 From: "Cheryl Williams-Riddle" Subject: (thmi-fms) Madi Creekmore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C18628.477A5D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, My name is Cheryl Williams, I have had FMS probably all my = life,,I can remember my back giving me problems as early as 7 and IBS at = 17,,it was officially diagnosed in 1998, along with CFS, PTSD, HEP-C and = Grand Mal epilepsy. I am 46 and have a state paid caretaker to do = housework and cooking. My teenagers help at night and on weekends. Madi = wrote me about being overweight and craving carbs and what she = takes....I have recently started taking Alpha Lipoic Acid (supplement) = It has healed up my skin conditions and toughened it up....It would tear = from paper tape or bumping into something small. My Dr said he has never = seen anything like it and is going to recommend it to someother = patients. I have ALMOST cut carbs and have lost about 30lbs or so 2 pant = sizes anyway. I have more energy and am taking less pain meds...I was on = codeine and duregesic patches, plus soma and valium for spasms of my = muscles, depakote and folic acid for the seizures, lasex for edema, and = assorted other bottles just for the heck of it I guess....Anyway, I = suggest a diet if u can of soy milk, fresh fruits and veg, a small = amount of meat or beans etc,,,and little if no breads, tortilla's, = oatmeal, or any thing made with flour or corn meal.......cornmeal is = best if you need some or a whole cracked wheat flour base. I hope = this helps Madi...my son and a lot of my friends think I am just lazy = too, like u said about your aunt.....I did find out 2 of my aunts have = fms also,,,both my parents r deceased so I can't ask them. I believe my = 17 yr. old daughter is showing signs herself,,,that is why I have her on = a diet now. hope this helps ...Cheryl - ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C18628.477A5D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello, My name is Cheryl Williams, I have had FMS = probably all=20 my life,,I can remember my back giving me problems as early as 7 and IBS = at=20 17,,it was officially diagnosed in 1998, along with CFS, PTSD, HEP-C and = Grand=20 Mal epilepsy. I am 46 and have a state paid caretaker to do housework = and=20 cooking. My teenagers help at night and on weekends. Madi wrote me about = being=20 overweight and craving carbs and what she takes....I have recently = started=20 taking Alpha Lipoic Acid (supplement) It has healed up my skin = conditions and=20 toughened it up....It would tear from paper tape or bumping into = something=20 small. My Dr said he has never seen anything like it and is going to = recommend=20 it to someother patients. I have ALMOST cut carbs and have lost about = 30lbs or=20 so 2 pant sizes anyway. I have more energy and am taking less pain = meds...I was=20 on codeine and duregesic patches, plus soma and valium for spasms of my = muscles,=20 depakote and folic acid for the seizures, lasex for edema, and assorted = other=20 bottles just for the heck of it I guess....Anyway, I suggest a diet if u = can of=20 soy milk, fresh fruits and veg, a small amount of meat or beans = etc,,,and little=20 if no breads, tortilla's, oatmeal, or any thing made with flour or corn=20 meal.......cornmeal is best if you need some or a whole cracked =  wheat=20 flour base.   I hope this helps Madi...my son and a lot of my = friends=20 think I am just lazy too, like u said about your aunt.....I did find out = 2 of my=20 aunts have fms also,,,both my parents r deceased so I can't ask them. I = believe=20 my 17 yr. old daughter is showing signs herself,,,that is why I have her = on a=20 diet now. hope this helps ...Cheryl
- ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C18628.477A5D60-- - - To unsubscribe to thmi-fms, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe thmi-fms" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 13:25:54 -0800 From: "Madi Creekmore" Subject: Re: (thmi-fms) Madi Creekmore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0145_01C18635.301A4060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Cheryl. I think a lot of us are allergic to wheat products and = that is why we crave them. I'm trying to wean myself from them plus = sugar. I've tried the Atkins Diet and it works but it has to be a way = of life. I think after a person loses the weight they can have more = carbs such as beans, potatoes, etc. But, leaving wheat products alone = is like making a great sacrifice of pleasure. I guess it boils down to = priorities - do I want health or instant gratification? =20 I was reading an article that made me laugh the other day. It says = Americans are grain fed like cattle at the stockyard. Grain fattens = them up and we are the same way I guess. =20 Another joke - if the Martians land - they eat the fat ones first! LOL = Madi ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cheryl Williams-Riddle=20 To: thmi-fms@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: (thmi-fms) Madi Creekmore Hello, My name is Cheryl Williams, I have had FMS probably all my = life,,I can remember my back giving me problems as early as 7 and IBS at = 17,,it was officially diagnosed in 1998, along with CFS, PTSD, HEP-C and = Grand Mal epilepsy. I am 46 and have a state paid caretaker to do = housework and cooking. My teenagers help at night and on weekends. Madi = wrote me about being overweight and craving carbs and what she = takes....I have recently started taking Alpha Lipoic Acid (supplement) = It has healed up my skin conditions and toughened it up....It would tear = from paper tape or bumping into something small. My Dr said he has never = seen anything like it and is going to recommend it to someother = patients. I have ALMOST cut carbs and have lost about 30lbs or so 2 pant = sizes anyway. I have more energy and am taking less pain meds...I was on = codeine and duregesic patches, plus soma and valium for spasms of my = muscles, depakote and folic acid for the seizures, lasex for edema, and = assorted other bottles just for the heck of it I guess....Anyway, I = suggest a diet if u can of soy milk, fresh fruits and veg, a small = amount of meat or beans etc,,,and little if no breads, tortilla's, = oatmeal, or any thing made with flour or corn meal.......cornmeal is = best if you need some or a whole cracked wheat flour base. I hope = this helps Madi...my son and a lot of my friends think I am just lazy = too, like u said about your aunt.....I did find out 2 of my aunts have = fms also,,,both my parents r deceased so I can't ask them. I believe my = 17 yr. old daughter is showing signs herself,,,that is why I have her on = a diet now. hope this helps ...Cheryl - ------=_NextPart_000_0145_01C18635.301A4060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Cheryl.  = I think a lot=20 of us are allergic to wheat products and that is why we crave = them.  I'm=20 trying to wean myself from them plus sugar.   I've tried the = Atkins=20 Diet and it works but it has to be a way of life.  I think after a = person=20 loses the weight they can have more carbs such as beans, potatoes,=20 etc.   But, leaving wheat products alone is like making a = great=20 sacrifice of pleasure.   I guess it boils down to priorities - = do I=20 want health or instant gratification?  
 
I was reading an = article that made=20 me laugh the other day.  It says Americans are grain fed like = cattle at the=20 stockyard.   Grain fattens them up and we are the same way I=20 guess. 
 
Another joke - if = the Martians=20 land - they eat the fat ones first!   LOL  =20 Madi
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Cheryl=20 Williams-Riddle
To: thmi-fms@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 = 11:53=20 AM
Subject: (thmi-fms) Madi = Creekmore

Hello, My name is Cheryl Williams, I have had FMS = probably=20 all my life,,I can remember my back giving me problems as early as 7 = and IBS=20 at 17,,it was officially diagnosed in 1998, along with CFS, PTSD, = HEP-C and=20 Grand Mal epilepsy. I am 46 and have a state paid caretaker to do = housework=20 and cooking. My teenagers help at night and on weekends. Madi wrote me = about=20 being overweight and craving carbs and what she takes....I have = recently=20 started taking Alpha Lipoic Acid (supplement) It has healed up my skin = conditions and toughened it up....It would tear from paper tape or = bumping=20 into something small. My Dr said he has never seen anything like it = and is=20 going to recommend it to someother patients. I have ALMOST cut carbs = and have=20 lost about 30lbs or so 2 pant sizes anyway. I have more energy and am = taking=20 less pain meds...I was on codeine and duregesic patches, plus soma and = valium=20 for spasms of my muscles, depakote and folic acid for the seizures, = lasex for=20 edema, and assorted other bottles just for the heck of it I = guess....Anyway, I=20 suggest a diet if u can of soy milk, fresh fruits and veg, a small = amount of=20 meat or beans etc,,,and little if no breads, tortilla's, oatmeal, or = any thing=20 made with flour or corn meal.......cornmeal is best if you need some = or a=20 whole cracked  wheat flour base.   I hope this helps = Madi...my=20 son and a lot of my friends think I am just lazy too, like u said = about your=20 aunt.....I did find out 2 of my aunts have fms also,,,both my parents = r=20 deceased so I can't ask them. I believe my 17 yr. old daughter is = showing=20 signs herself,,,that is why I have her on a diet now. hope this helps=20 ...Cheryl
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Dear Jim,

Thank you for your  emails. I am going to consult my doctor about Flora Source (when I get the appointment).  He is not a CFIDS/Fibro specialist and he will  not steal the idea it is just that he knows my condition and I need to check that it is good for me. I will contact you in due course.

Best Wishes

Rachel Meidan


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Regarding probiotics,

I take "Sybioflor 1" and "Symbioflor 2" by a German firm called "symbiopharm". I was prescribed it by a alternative doctor here in Israel, I buy it in a pharmacy. The website is www.symbioflor.de

The website has an English version if you click on the link.

Says on packet Bacteria count 1,5-4,5 times 10 to the power of 7. 

Comes in a bottle with drops. It took me a couple of months until I started getting improvements with my IBS , but  it worked.  Solgar acidophilis didn't work. The Flora Balance sounds like it has a higher count but I need to ask my doctor next week and check it out first.

The liquid oxygen you are describing sounds like the same one I used (10 drops in 10 ounces of water -similar dose). I can't find the bottle of what I used. Must have thrown it out after I got a stomach upset from it. It took me weeks to recover and I lost weight from overdosing. Just took a few more drops by accident.

I've read about the micro-ionised water and the soap-box page, I simply can't understand any of it.

Have you tried contacting the CFIDS Foundation?  They tend to be more serious than the CFIDS association.

Rachel

>From: "Total Health Mktg."
>Reply-To: thmi-fms@lists.xmission.com
>To: thmi-fms@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: (thmi-fms) don't close it yet
>Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 00:46:41 -0700 (MST)
>
>
>Hello Rachel,
>
> I'll answer your questions here. I have done some testing on a
>liquid oxygen drop that you add to water. The product is called
>"Stabilized Oxygen" and you add 10 drops to 8 ounces of water. I don't
>know how it compares with the product that you used. Making a couple
>tests with that product in water I found that it raised the pH of the
>water a little and increased the positive electrical properties of the
>water. It may have been the sodium in the product responsible for
>increasing the charge in a positive direction.
>
> Alkaline ionized water has a negative electrical charge. I have put
>some of my "Observations on ORP" in the SoapBox section on
>http://www.xmission.com/~total/temple/index.html
>
> Regarding probiotics, the product that I use in the program is called
>"Flora Source". One person did experience some negative reaction with
>this product but all others that used it reported positive benefit using
>the product. I'm not sure why the one person experienced the reaction she
>did. I will have to check with the manfacturer to see if they can provide
>some answers. Though she did not take the probiotics, she is seeing some
>positive gains using the other parts of the program.
>
>Most supplemental probiotics are too weak to provide much, if any,
>benefit. "Flora Source" advertises 30 billion live bacteria per capsule.
>Most supplemented probiotics are going to die before they get to the area
>where you want them to take up residence. Also, the gut environment in
>a person with fibromyalgia is out of balance and not ideal for them to
>thrive. The online presentation addresses the need for the correct pH
>for the bacteria to survive.
>
>Most probiotics you find in the local health food store have about
>2 billion cells per capsule. What count does your probitic have?
>
>I can appreciate the skepticism, I guess if I were in the same
>position, having tried many things without success, I would likely have a
>similar response. But, I'm not the salesman type and I need to start
>making some money soon so I may be forced to return to working with
>computers, something that I can relate to. No human emotions, fears,
>skepticisms, and unpredictable logic to deal with.
>
>I am confident that the program will help anyone with fibromyalgia find
>significant relief. So far, though there have only been a few people
>that have followed the program, everyone has seen good results. But,
>how do I get people to investigate it?
>
>I gave a fibromyalgia presentation at a local health food store. Two
>of the ladies in attendance have been dealing with the condition for
>over 10 years. They sat through the presentation. At the end I told
>them about the success that Collen had in about a 6 - 8 week period.
>These two ladies each got upset that I would suggest that someone
>could find improvement in that short a time. They didn't even ask what
>Colleen did to gain the relief. They just got mad and left. Computers
>don't respond so irrationally. :)
>
>All the best,
>Jim
>__________________________________________________________________________
>Jim Clements | email: clements@xmission.com
>Total Health Marketing | ph. 801/583-5060
>
>
>On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Rachel Meidan wrote:
>
> > Hi Jim,
> > I don't want the list to close yet. It shouldn't close so fast. It takes
> > time for some ill people to respond. My name is Rachel and I have had
> > CFS/CFIDS/ME for 10 years since an epstein-bar infection when I was 15 and
> > I'm 25 now. After the initial flu like illness, At first the symptoms came
> > on and off but it got worse as I did my GCSES and A-levels (I used to live
> > in England.) I only got diagnosed for Fibromyalgia officially a few years
> > ago although I probably had it longer than that because muscle pain
> > especially in the back was always a problem. A docotor in England promised
> > to treat me and gave me a dangerous form of elimination diet which ended up
> > giving me IBS. So I do get suspicious of anyone claiming to treat this, I
> > think it's understandable for people to feel that way.
> >
> > There is something called "aerobic oxygen" or "liquid oxygen", which is from
> > US/Canada and England I was sold it here in Israel (18 british pounds a
> > bottle roughly $30) which I tried, it didn't help me and I accidently
> > overdosed and had stomach problems for weeks.) I need to read the links
> > provided to work out if the micro-ionised water is the same thing as that or
> > a completely different thing.
> > I already take probiotics (a strange German brand) which help a bit. It
> > always depends on the brand because I tried 3 different brands before I
> > found one that helped.
> > Only other thing that helps -Zostrix or capciacin cream for pain.
> > I'll sign off for now to read the stuff and then get some sleep.
> > Rachel
> >
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She has on occasion told the people that run the local FMS support group of her success. They did not care to investigate her success. The majority of people with FMS want the answers for FMS to come from the recognized medical authorities, they want a pill that is going to fix everything, and they want their insurer to pay for it. I can tell you that that is never going to happen. The people that get better from FMS and CFIDS are those that have tried different things and continue to try different things until they find those things that help them get better. I am guessing that the people on this list are those in the latter category, trying things until they find what they need to get better. Seek and ye shall find. There are about 6 million people in the US with fibromyalgia. One report I read a few years ago estimated that on average the person with fibromyalgia spends about $1800 per year treating the condition. (note: this is more than the one time cost of the program) That works out to about $9 billion per year. Each and every year. Thats a lot of money. I will give the first person from this list that emails me in response to this offer, a 100% full money back gaurantee, if you follow this program and do not see excellent results in a few months time I will fully refund your money. I am confident in making this offer because to date everyone that has followed the program has seen good results, 100% success rate. Is there anyone out there willing to take me up on this offer? Until we have some people on the program reporting their progress we really don't have much to discuss on this list. (Unfortunately, at this time I must restrict this offer to those living in the US.) The people that are going to educate the world on fibromyalgia are people like Colleen, Mavis, Meredith, Bonnie, Alexis, Judy, Janice... People that have had fibromyalgia and have returned to good health or are on their way back to good health. Only problem is, they tell others and nobody seems to care enough to investigate. Don't stress over the holidays too much. Remember the true meaning for the season and you will be okay. God bless you all. All the best, Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ Jim Clements | email: clements@xmission.com Total Health Marketing | ph. 801/583-5060 On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Rachel Meidan wrote: > > > > Regarding probiotics, > > I take "Sybioflor 1" and "Symbioflor 2" by a German firm called > "symbiopharm". I was prescribed it by a alternative doctor here in > Israel, I buy it in a pharmacy. The website is www.symbioflor.de > > The website has an English version if you click on the link. > > Says on packet Bacteria count 1,5-4,5 times 10 to the power of 7. > > Comes in a bottle with drops. It took me a couple of months until I > started getting improvements with my IBS , but it worked. Solgar > acidophilis didn't work. The Flora Balance sounds like it has a higher > count but I need to ask my doctor next week and check it out first. > > The liquid oxygen you are describing sounds like the same one I used (10 > drops in 10 ounces of water -similar dose). I can't find the bottle of > what I used. Must have thrown it out after I got a stomach upset from it. > It took me weeks to recover and I lost weight from overdosing. Just took > a few more drops by accident. > > I've read about the micro-ionised water and the soap-box page, I simply > can't understand any of it. > > Have you tried contacting the CFIDS Foundation? They tend to be more > serious than the CFIDS association. > > Rachel > - - To unsubscribe to thmi-fms, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe thmi-fms" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 04:30:18 GMT From: madcreek@linkline.com Subject: Re: (thmi-fms) Re: CFIDS Foundation Jim, I'm willing to try this. I am carbohydrate addicted though. Will this help me get away from the carbs? I don't have much will power but I probably would if I felt better on this program. Madlyn Creekmore Total Health Mktg. writes: > > Rachael, > > You suggested I contact the CFIDS Foundation. Some time ago I sent a > video of my presentation to the president of the Foundation. She > dismissed the information and the testimonials, her response was that in > any program you will have some people that see some positive results. > Also, with this condition people do occasionally experience a reprieve > from symptoms. She did not seem interested in learning more. > > Colleen, one of the first people with a pioneering spirit to try > something different has been off the program and pain free for over 1 year > now. She has on occasion told the people that run the local FMS support > group of her success. They did not care to investigate her success. > > The majority of people with FMS want the answers for FMS to come from > the recognized medical authorities, they want a pill that is going to fix > everything, and they want their insurer to pay for it. I can tell you > that that is never going to happen. The people that get better from FMS > and CFIDS are those that have tried different things and continue to > try different things until they find those things that help them get > better. I am guessing that the people on this list are those in the > latter category, trying things until they find what they need to get > better. Seek and ye shall find. > > There are about 6 million people in the US with fibromyalgia. One > report I read a few years ago estimated that on average the person with > fibromyalgia spends about $1800 per year treating the condition. (note: > this is more than the one time cost of the program) That works out to > about $9 billion per year. Each and every year. Thats a lot of money. > > I will give the first person from this list that emails me in response > to this offer, a 100% full money back gaurantee, if you follow this > program and do not see excellent results in a few months time I will fully > refund your money. I am confident in making this offer because to date > everyone that has followed the program has seen good results, 100% > success rate. > > Is there anyone out there willing to take me up on this offer? Until we > have some people on the program reporting their progress we really > don't have much to discuss on this list. (Unfortunately, at this time I > must restrict this offer to those living in the US.) > > The people that are going to educate the world on fibromyalgia are > people like Colleen, Mavis, Meredith, Bonnie, Alexis, Judy, Janice... > People that have had fibromyalgia and have returned to good health or are > on their way back to good health. Only problem is, they tell others and > nobody seems to care enough to investigate. > > Don't stress over the holidays too much. Remember the true meaning for > the season and you will be okay. God bless you all. > > All the best, > Jim > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Jim Clements | email: clements@xmission.com > Total Health Marketing | ph. 801/583-5060 > > > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Rachel Meidan wrote: > >> >> >> >> Regarding probiotics, >> >> I take "Sybioflor 1" and "Symbioflor 2" by a German firm called >> "symbiopharm". I was prescribed it by a alternative doctor here in >> Israel, I buy it in a pharmacy. The website is www.symbioflor.de >> >> The website has an English version if you click on the link. >> >> Says on packet Bacteria count 1,5-4,5 times 10 to the power of 7. >> >> Comes in a bottle with drops. It took me a couple of months until I >> started getting improvements with my IBS , but it worked. Solgar >> acidophilis didn't work. The Flora Balance sounds like it has a higher >> count but I need to ask my doctor next week and check it out first. >> >> The liquid oxygen you are describing sounds like the same one I used (10 >> drops in 10 ounces of water -similar dose). I can't find the bottle of >> what I used. Must have thrown it out after I got a stomach upset from it. >> It took me weeks to recover and I lost weight from overdosing. Just took >> a few more drops by accident. >> >> I've read about the micro-ionised water and the soap-box page, I simply >> can't understand any of it. >> >> Have you tried contacting the CFIDS Foundation? They tend to be more >> serious than the CFIDS association. >> >> Rachel >> > > > - > To unsubscribe to thmi-fms, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe thmi-fms" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - To unsubscribe to thmi-fms, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe thmi-fms" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:22:52 -0700 (MST) From: "Total Health Mktg." Subject: Re: (thmi-fms) Re: CFIDS Foundation Hello Madlyn, Do you experience any symptoms of yeast overgrowth? That may be at the root of your carbohydrate cravings. If I recall I spoke with you on the phone and you had some problems with your feet is that correct? Janice is new to working with email lists, when she is able to post to the list maybe she can share her experience with any food cravings. Although, speaking with Janice I don't recall that ever being an issue with her. Thank you for taking a chance. If you email your phone number and best time to reach you to me at clements@xmission.com I will discuss with you the other parts of the program and what you will need to start. I am confident that you will see good results. For your willingness to take this chance I will give you a discount on the price. As Janice who has met me can atest, I'm not the best of business people since I'm not always charging all that I should for the program. All the best, Jim ___________________________________________________________________________ Jim Clements | email: clements@xmission.com Total Health Marketing | ph. 801/583-5060 On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 madcreek@linkline.com wrote: > Jim, I'm willing to try this. I am carbohydrate addicted though. Will this > help me get away from the carbs? I don't have much will power but I > probably would if I felt better on this program. Madlyn Creekmore > - - To unsubscribe to thmi-fms, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe thmi-fms" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:06:03 GMT From: madcreek@linkline.com Subject: Re: (thmi-fms) Re: CFIDS Foundation I'm sure it is yeast. I itch all over sometimes and my body has a craving schedule. After the holidays are over let's get together on this. My phone number is 909-678-6328. I won't be home until Dec 27 or 28. Madi Total Health Mktg. writes: > > Hello Madlyn, > > Do you experience any symptoms of yeast overgrowth? That may be at the > root of your carbohydrate cravings. If I recall I spoke with you on the > phone and you had some problems with your feet is that correct? > > Janice is new to working with email lists, when she is able to post to > the list maybe she can share her experience with any food cravings. > Although, speaking with Janice I don't recall that ever being an issue > with her. > > Thank you for taking a chance. If you email your phone number and best > time to reach you to me at clements@xmission.com I will discuss with you > the other parts of the program and what you will need to start. > > I am confident that you will see good results. For your willingness to > take this chance I will give you a discount on the price. As Janice who > has met me can atest, I'm not the best of business people since I'm not > always charging all that I should for the program. > > All the best, > Jim > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Jim Clements | email: clements@xmission.com > Total Health Marketing | ph. 801/583-5060 > > > On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 madcreek@linkline.com wrote: > >> Jim, I'm willing to try this. I am carbohydrate addicted though. Will this >> help me get away from the carbs? I don't have much will power but I >> probably would if I felt better on this program. Madlyn Creekmore >> > > > - > To unsubscribe to thmi-fms, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe thmi-fms" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. 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