From: Scott Bergeson Subject: Rosie O'Donnell Gun Poll Date: 05 Apr 2001 16:08:57 -0600 It's down to 89%, so get cracking and pass it on. Scott ----- "David Anderson (PNOC)" wrote: I just got this from www.shooterstalk.com (who got it from ak-47.net) Seems like everyone's favorite gun control spouting cow has her own magazine now. On the magazine's website there is a poll relating to gun control. The funny thing is that right now, 93% of respondents are saying that anyone should be able to own a gun without restriction. I bet she wasn't expecting that one! I wonder how long it will be before they take the poll. Go cast your vote at the link below. http://www.rosiemagazine.com/causes/index.jsp Have fun, David Anderson TELUS Enhanced Services 9th Floor, 622-1 St SW Calgary AB T2P 1M6 Direct (403) 530-6507 Office (403) 530-6530 Fax (403) 262-4766 Toll Free 1-800-887-1221 Option 2 - 4 =============================================== "Aim small, miss small." -- Captain Benjamin Martin, _The Patriot_ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Bergeson Subject: FW: Score one for the conspiracy buffs Date: 07 Apr 2001 18:05:47 -0600 Have a look at this, gang. Somebody filed a FOIA request on NCIC traces of the gun found with Vince Foster's body, which supposedly belonged to him. As you might expect, there was a trace request that night. There were three others 3 and 4 months BEFORE the shooting, and the Justice department refuses to say what agency asked for those traces. Curiouser and curiouser. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22334 --- Hunter's Seventy Seventh Rule: The measure of the menace of a man is not what hardware he carries, but what ideas he believes. Ceterum censeo fiscum delendum esse --- >= LIBERTY ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS LIST (http://www.vader.com/lrtdiscuss) >= >= TO POST TO THE LIST: send mail to lrt-discuss@vader.com >= TO SUBSCRIBE TO LIST: send mail to lrt-discuss-request@vader.com >= TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM LIST: send mail to lrt-discuss-drop@vader.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Bergeson" Subject: Gun Toters Are Safer Than Cops Date: 12 Apr 2001 10:06:25 -0600 http://www.lewrockwell.com/edmonds/edmonds16.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Bergeson" Subject: Schools protect bullies Date: 13 Apr 2001 09:39:15 -0600 Then wonder why some people use guns in a less restrained manner. If they were serious about stopping violence, serious felony (attempted murder, conspiracy, for starters) prosecution of the bullies is appropriate. In his News update, April 13, 2001 David A. Hansen provided: WEST PALM BEACH -- Artis Hardwick was looking at 20 years in prison for firing a gun on school property but walked free Tuesday after arguing he was just trying to protect his son from bullies. A jury acquitted Hardwick, 43, who said he fired once into the air as his son was beaten by a gang of teens at Glades Central High School. "I never intended to hurt anybody. I just wanted to make them scatter, and they scattered all right," Hardwick said from home Tuesday night. "I told the truth. I feel born again." The fight started after school March 30, 2000, in a mobile home park and spilled over onto the Belle Glade school's campus. His son's girlfriend ran to tell Hardwick that his son, also named Artis, was being beaten. Hardwick tried to pull the teens off his son before going to his car to get a gun, his lawyer, Marie Kendall, said. "He fired it and they dispersed. It's the only thing that worked," she said. Hardwick had talked to an administrator earlier in the day about both his sons being badgered, she said. The six-person jury took about three hours to acquit Hardwick of aggravated assault with a firearm, discharging a weapon on school property, possession of a weapon on school property and battery. "None of us want firearms on school grounds but it came down to self-defense for his son," said juror Joseph Colpack, 56, of Boynton Beach. Palm Beach County School District Police Chief Jim Kelly called the jury's finding "unbelievable," particularly the acquittals for possession and discharging of a weapon on school property. "To bring it (a gun) on and not be held accountable for that, sounds like a little examination of state laws have to be made to see what's wrong," Kelly said. He did not attend the trial. One juror said the panel adhered to jury instructions that said a person can be found not guilty if he acts to defend himself or another person. "If I didn't see the instructions, I'd say he was guilty," said juror Eric Weinbaum, 45, of Boca Raton. The verdict will not change how school police handle gun crimes, Kelly said. "I don't care what they bring it for, they're going to be charged." Under the zero-tolerance "10-20-Life" gun law, Hardwick would have faced 20 years in prison if he were convicted of aggravated assault with a firearm. The law sets minimum prison terms: 10 years if the person carries a firearm during a crime, 20 years if he fires it, 25 years to life if someone is killed or seriously injured. Prosecutor Tom Lawson could not be reached for comment after the verdict. Hardwick has no criminal record, Kendall said. Four teens who allegedly attacked Hardwick's son that day were charged with aggravated battery. Hardwick's son went to the hospital with a head injury and other minor injuries. The teens all plea-bargained to misdemeanors, according to Kendall. Hardwick's son, now 19, praised his dad Tuesday: "He's courageous for doing what he did. He really set himself up as a man . . . and as a role model in my life for what he did that day." His father said Tuesday night that he thought that afternoon of Joshua Stern, the Loxahatchee teen who was severely beaten at a high schoolers' party. Would Hardwick do it again? "I ask myself that. If my son was in the same situation I would have to go to his rescue over the law," Hardwick said. "I'm a law-abiding citizen, but a father first." susan_spencer_wendel@pbpost.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: charles hardy Subject: Fw: Fw: Million Mom March leaving its office space Date: 13 Apr 2001 13:11:07 -0600 Of interest... ================================================================== Charles C. Hardy Utah Email Coordinator--Women Against Gun Control --------- Forwarded message ---------- >Way To go Jim March! Yeahaaaaaa! :D >------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- - >---- > >Million Mom March leaving its office space >By Christopher Merrill >Of The Examiner Staff > >The Million Mom March foundation is moving out of rent-free office space it >enjoyed for two years on the third floor of a building at San Francisco >General Hospital. > >A pro-gun activist launched a campaign against the group this year when he >discovered what he said were unapproved taxpayer subsidies -- meaning free >rent -- going toward the ailing gun-control organization. > >The foundation, which gained notoriety for its march on Washington last >year, has had financial trouble lately, said Mary Leigh Blek, president of >the foundation. Thirty of 35 staff were let go last month out of the >national office in the hospital. Executive director James McGuire resigned >as director and as a board member last month. > >The questions about the propriety of the group's office space was another >headache for the organization. > >The hospital property belongs to the city, and the Board of Supervisors has >to approve such arrangements. That has not happened in the case of the >Million Mom March, an education and advocacy group that supports stricter >gun laws. > >McGuire said the group is an offshoot of the Trauma Foundation, a nonprofit >injury prevention group that has rights to the space. That group, which >McGuire also founded, was given the space for free in 1981 through an >arrangement with Donald Trunkey, then the director of the hospital's burn >center. McGuire said all political activities of the Million Mom March are >carried out at another office, meaning that taxpayers aren't unwittingly >supporting a political organization. > >Gun activist James March dismissed that explanation, saying McGuire is >involved in several gun-control groups, some of which are used as a cover >for others. > >"They can't keep their story straight," March said. "All roads lead back to >(McGuire)." > >On Wednesday, some supervisors said they were concerned the groups may have >become too cozy with city property. > >"Any property that the city and county owns, that we then lease to someone, >should not be subleased," said Supervisor Leland Yee, who has questioned the >hospital's financial practices in the past. > >Supervisor Aaron Peskin, a member of the city's finance committee, raised >questions about the lack of lease for either group. He noted that the city >administrative code requires all leases worth more than $500,000 in a >five-year period be revisited. > >Blek is confident the group will rebound in the coming year. Rallies are >planned on Mother's Day in every state the group has chapters. In Sacramento >the group will support a bill that requires Californians to pass a written >test, a firing-range demonstration and a thumbprint for a state Department >of Justice background check. > >Email Christopher Merrill at cmerrill@sfexaminer.com > > >http://www.sfexaminer.com/news/default.jsp?story=n.mom.0412w ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: April 16 column -- reenfranchising felons (fwd) Date: 17 Apr 2001 17:25:55 -0600 (MDT) There are some interesting views expressed herein regarding the right to keep and bear arms. FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED APRIL 16, 2001 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Restore released felons' rights -- all their rights The tale is told of the African farmer who complains to his neighbor of all the trouble he's having catching and killing the mice that are eating up the crops in his field. "Why are they so hard to catch?" the neighbor asks. "Because they keep hiding between the elephants' legs." Many of us are susceptible to fixating on those pesky mice, ignoring far larger sources of trouble and destruction simply because we've grown so accustomed to them. This is the case for many of today's political liberals, as the once noble cause of "Civil Rights" falls increasingly into the clutches of political opportunists angling for votes via exercises every bit as arcane as medieval scholastics counting the angels on the head of a pin. Are "too few" black-owned contractors landing highway subcontracts? Just set up race-based quota and set-aside systems for "black-owned businesses" -- blithely ignoring the number of white entrepreneurs who promptly pay off black "front men" to fill out the required paperwork. (And needless to say, this street only runs one-way -- no federal mandates that professional football or basketball teams contain a percentage of white or Asian players "appropriate to the racial makeup of the metropolitan market they serve.") Perhaps the silliest of these modern exercises is the recurring demand that the government somehow intervene to fix the "wage gap" between men and women -- a statistical artifact 98 percent explained by the fact that women tend to make different career choices, in part to allow them to take years off to bear and raise children (God bless them). Meantime, what about our own elephants -- the massively obvious laws still on the books which not only have a (start ital)de facto(end ital) racist impact, but which were originally enacted with the specific (start ital)purpose(end ital) of keeping American blacks, Asians, and Hispanics in a permanent state of "second-class citizenship"? Take the War on Drugs ... please. What consciousness-altering drug causes by far the most crime, disease, death (both on and off the highways), family destruction, and general sociopathology in America today? Alcohol. So why do we lock up hundreds of thousands of our young men in prison for decades -- giving America the highest incarceration rate in the civilized world -- for non-violent trafficking in marijuana, cocaine, and the opiates ... while far more damaging alcohol remains legal? Because marijuana, cocaine, and opium were inseparably linked to America's Hispanic, black and Asian minorities in the early years of the last century, of course -- yellow journalists like William Randolph Hearst selling plenty of newspapers with blatantly racist tales of black, Mexican and Chinese men seducing white women after plying them with these insidious tools of miscegenational seduction. To this day, black and Hispanic drug convicts fill our prisons far out of proportion to their numbers in the general population, precisely because there is no such punishment for the irresponsible use of alcohol -- drug of choice for the white majority. So why don't today's "Civil Rights activists" demand an end to the "War on Drugs"? Could it be because they really constitute nothing but get-out-the-minority-vote auxiliaries to the established parties of Big Government Power? Nor is the "Drug War" the only scheme developed after the Civil War to keep America's minorities disarmed and out of the voting booth. In postbellum America, while white men were free to carry long guns in their saddle scabbards or later in their pickup racks, a black man walking abroad with such a weapon could be in deep trouble. Therefore, black men "uppity" enough to arm themselves in readiness to defend their families and their property found it necessary to carry more easily concealable handguns. Taking advantage of this disparity between the way the two races tended to go armed, enter a clever racist scam known as the "concealed weapon permit" -- easy enough to acquire in you played poker with the judge or the sheriff on Friday nights, but likely to be issued to the average black applicant ... right about the time we finish clearing the snow from that big July blizzard. Now, no matter how well justified his actions, any black man who defended himself against an assault could be charged with "carrying a concealed weapon without a permit." Duly convicted by a (usually all-white) jury, he would not only do time, but -- under an additional set of new enactments -- forever forfeit his right to bear arms or to vote, even after he had "paid his debt to society." Pretty clever, huh? To this day, the Sentencing Project and Human Rights Watch tell us 13 percent of black men in this country -- a number way out of whack with the statistics for other races -- can't vote, most of them because they have a felony conviction on their records. Does anyone believe this facilitates these men landing good jobs, supporting their families, and becoming active in the self-government of their communities? Nevada Sen. Harry Reid and NAACP head Kweisi Mfume appeared at the MGM Grand hotel in Las Vegas April 9, calling for new legislation to re-enfranchise citizens who have paid their debt to society -- allowing former felons to vote. It's a no-brainer. Let's get it done. All of a convict's civil rights but two are considered to be automatically restored the minute he walks out of prison -- and rightly so -- as it is. (Would anyone contend a former felon can't go to church -- that he doesn't merit another jury trial if accused of a new crime -- because the rights previously guaranteed him by the First and Fourth Amendments of the Bill of Rights were never "restored" to him via some formal written document following his release?) But having gone that far, why do Messrs. Reid and Mfume stop short? If a convicted felon is still dangerous, he shouldn't be out walking around at all -- he should serve his full sentence. (And we'll have more than enough prison space to allow that, once the Civil Rights folks get busy and end this racist War on Drugs.) If, on the other hand, we're finally committed to ending this loathsome regime of "permanent second-class citizenship" for men who have "done their time," then let's restore (start ital)all(end ital) their Constitutional rights ... including the crucial Right to Keep and Bear Arms, described by our Founding Fathers as "necessary to the security of a free state." The importance of an armed citizenry for maintaining freedom and order in our communities was once so well understood in this country that virtually all Confederate veterans of the Civil War were allowed to carry their personal weapons home with them after the North accepted their surrender. These are men who -- from the point of view of the conqueror -- had just spent four years committing treason and armed insurrection. What felonies could be more violent than those? Yet they went home armed, lived peaceable lives, and rebuilt a nation. Let's do it again. Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Subscribe to his monthly newsletter by sending $72 to Privacy Alert, 1475 Terminal Way, Suite E for Easy, Reno, NV 89502. His book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available at 1-800-244-2224, or via web site www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926) "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. 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The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Bergeson Subject: FW: The OKC bombing was April 19, 1995. Date: 19 Apr 2001 12:45:47 -0600 Another view ----- If you doubt the truth of the OKC bombing please read this. Go to the following Website and read the whole thing. I too remember the differences that were reported at the time. I don't know what happened but I would like to and the only way we will ever know is if Attorney General Ashcroft will open this up for investigation. If enough of us request him to open it, I believe that he will. His address is: mailto:getactive@johnashcroft.com and his fax is: 202-307-2825 John Ashcroft And The OKC Bombing http://www.devvy.com/ashcroft_20010206.html Now go to this URL for an eye opener. Waco... A senseless Slaughter. http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/waco.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Bergeson Subject: The truth behind gun statistics Date: 20 Apr 2001 10:30:02 -0600 The truth behind gun statistics ---------- by Dr. Miguel Faria Despite the claims by gun banners that firearms can make anybody violent, the typical murderer has a long prior criminal history before he finally commits murder -- and that's just the beginning of the flaws in the "facts" presented by authoritarians. (04/20/01) http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/4/18/224253.shtml - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Bergeson" Subject: The Bridge Where? Date: 20 Apr 2001 20:18:10 -0600 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chuck Baldwin's Quotes from our Founders http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/founding.html The Bridge Where? By Chuck Baldwin April 19, 2001 April 19 occupies a hallowed place in American history. The date is second only to July 4 in its significance. April 19, of course, is the date that America's fight for independence began. The events of that glorious day actually began on April 14. On this day Massachusetts Governor Gage was secretly ordered to enforce the Coercive Acts and suppress the rebellion that was brewing among the colonists using all force necessary. On April 18, General Gage ordered 700 British troops to Concord to confiscate or destroy the colonists' firearms. (Yes, friends, it was the attempted confiscation of guns that triggered the shot heard round the world.) That night, Paul Revere and William Dawes left Boston to warn the colonists. Two of the revolution leaders, Sam Adams and John Hancock, were both hiding in Lexington. At dawn on April 19 about 70 Massachusetts militiamen faced off against the British on Lexington Green. Who fired that opening shot is not known, but a subsequent volley of British rifle fire and bayonet charge left 8 Americans dead and 10 wounded. At the North Bridge in Concord, British troops were attacked by militiamen, which resulted in 14 British casualties. After regrouping, the soldiers continued their march into Concord and destroyed the weapons depot there. News of the raid spread like wildfire through the colonies, and as the British marched back to Boston they found themselves under constant attack by American militiamen. By the time the British arrived back at Boston they had suffered more than 250 casualties. The War for America's Independence had begun. Yet, the significance of April 19 date is largely lost to most Americans today. Newscasts are saturated with reminders of the Oklahoma City bombing, but little else. Tragically, to most Americans today, Paul Revere and Sam Adams are irrelevant (if not despised) relics of a forgotten past. Even more tragically, the principles for which Revere and Adams fought are also considered irrelevant by the current generation. For every one dollar that London absconded back in 1775, Washington, D.C. steals one thousand (and more) today. For every violation of rights enumerated in our Declaration of Independence, there are hundreds of federal usurpations of rights today. In fact, the oppressive regulations and edicts ordered by the federal government today make old King George look saintly by contrast. (And we call him a tyrant, while we claim to be free men.) It's a bridge mostly forgotten that Emerson wrote about. That "rude bridge that arched the flood" has been replaced with a gold encrusted super highway that is transporting our country smack into the middle of a socialistic New World Order. It's not that we don't have the likes of Paul Revere and Sam Adams today; it's just that few people are paying them any heed. American turncoats are accomplishing what British Redcoats could not accomplish. Americans today need to take a long look at that old bridge. And they had better do it soon, because the water is quickly rising, and it is doubtful that the old bridge can arch the flood much longer. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Bergeson" Subject: 40 reasons to support gun control Date: 25 Apr 2001 16:27:27 -0600 40 REASONS TO SUPPORT GUN CONTROL (From the AR-15 forum) 1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, & Chicago cops need guns. 2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control. 3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics." 4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, which both took effect in 1994, are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991. 5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time, and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid. 6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals. 7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you. 8. A woman raped and strangled with her own pantyhose is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet. 9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense - give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125). 10. "The New England Journal of Medicine" is filled with expert advice about guns, just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery. 11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise. 12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917. 13. The National Guard, which is federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings, and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia. 14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the states. 15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution. 16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them. 17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons" and therefore are not covered by the Second Amendment, but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles," because they ARE military weapons. 18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms. 19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity. 20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy. 21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20. 22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears." 23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed. 24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows. 25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves. 26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon." 27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted. 28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights. 29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self-defense only justifies bare hands. 30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution. 31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit. 32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition. 33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns, too. 34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to attain. 35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self-protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection. 36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun. 37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not. 38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good. 39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon. 40. Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Bergeson" Subject: FW: Two gun bills Date: 28 Apr 2001 15:01:19 -0600 NB: No co-sponsors from Utah. ----- Dear liberty activist, Representative Virgil Goode (Virginia) introduced H.R. 1455 - The States' Rights and Second and Tenth Amendment Restoration Act of 2001 that would repeal the 1996 Lautenberg amendment. Representative Roscoe Bartlett (Maryland) introduced H.R. 31 - The Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2001. Both bills are featured in "Current Legislation" at http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/bills/ . You can read descriptions of the bills, learn who has cosponsored each bill, send a message to your U.S. representative asking him to become a cosponsor or thank him for already being a cosponsor, and read the text of the bills by clicking "detailed" at the end of the bills' descriptions. If you have like-minded friends who share our interest in preserving the Second Amendment, please bring this to their attention. Kent Snyder The Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org -