From: Scott Bergeson Subject: A column from Dimitri - PittsburghLIVE.com - 'A handgun is a girl's best Date: 03 Oct 2002 13:27:55 -0600 -------- Original Message -------- CC: LEEbernet 'A HANDGUN IS A GIRL'S BEST FRIEND' Preventing rape is not funny. At least it shouldn't be. Somebody should have mentioned that to the audience before the recent first televised gubernatorial debate at Penn State. Candidates were asked what they would do to encourage rape victims to report the crime to authorities. One of the four gave an answer few were expecting. The audience and the other three thought he was joking. To read the entire article, visit: 1. Click here: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/columnists/vassilaros/s_94655.html 2. Or visit http://www.pittsburghlive.com and type in NewsCode: 94655 For the most comprehensive coverage of local news and sports in western Pennsylvania, visit http://www.pittsburghlive.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Bergeson Subject: FW: National Ammo Day Date: 09 Oct 2002 09:58:34 -0600 On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:49:50 -0400 Sunni Maravillosa wrote: Thanks to an LRT friend for bringing this to my attention: National Ammo Day: Celebrate the Second Amendment by buying an extra 100 rounds of ammunition on November 19th. The goal is to put ammunition in the hands of law-abiding citizens, and send a message to anti-gun individuals and organizations. Reloaders can participate too! http://www.free-market.net/rd/649274736.html Sunni http://www.LibertyRoundTable.org/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Bergeson Subject: Janalee on ABC 4 tomorrow Date: 19 Oct 2002 17:24:18 -0600 Reply-To: wagc-ut-owner@yahoogroups.com CC: WomenAgainstGunControl@yahoogroups.com Greetings, I've been asked to inform you when I'm debating someone about guns. Tomorrow morning (Sunday, Oct. 20) at 9:30 MST on ABC Channel 4 (in case anyone has a Satellite dish for the WAGC members worldwide) I'm part of a panel discussion debating gun control, snipers, ballistic fingerprinting, and the U of U gun ban. I'm not sure how I did, but I did get a bit fiesty. I couldn't help it! When the gunhaters make up stories, I get upset. I think the name of the show is "Politically Speaking," with the host Chris Vanocur--the reporter who broke the Olympic Games scandal. I hope I represent gun owners well. The other panel members are: PRO GUN: Mitch Vilos, Author and Lawyer Janalee Tobias, Pres. WAGC and Piano Teacher :) ANTI GUN: Maura Carabello, Utah Gun Violence Prevention Center Steve Gunn, Attorney, UGVPC Best regards, Janalee Tobias - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Karl Pearson Subject: 2 Thoughts Date: 24 Oct 2002 11:47:21 -0600 The Difference Between The Liberal and Conservative "Debate" Over The War On Terrorism: Question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a .357 Magnum and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do? Liberal Answer: Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! You're looking for simple solutions to complex issues. * Does the man look poor or oppressed? * Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? * Could we run away? * What does my wife think? * What about the kids? * Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? * What does the law say about this situation? * Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? * Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? * If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion. Conservative Answer: Shoot the SOB! Then take your family to a baseball game, eat some hot dogs with apple pie, sing the national anthem, go to church and praise the Lord for one more day of freedom. - Author unknown "Democrats raise taxes. It's their way of paying for programs that buy votes from people who don't pay high taxes." - Detroit News columnist Pete Waldmeir - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Bergeson Subject: [Gun Owners Alliance Alert] Where Is The Militia? LONG Date: 24 Oct 2002 12:01:19 -0600 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- PLEASE FORWARD THIS ALERT TO YOUR FRIENDS AND ENEMIES ALIKE! DO NOT LET THIS ALERT DIE - PASS IT ON! GUN OWNERS ALLIANCE !!ALERT!! Chris W. Stark - Director P.O. Box 1210 Divide, CO 80814-1210 Ph. 1-719-687-8747 http://www.GunOwnersAlliance.com e-mail: Director@GunOwnersAlliance.com 21 October 2002 ++++++++++++++++++ Where Is The Militia? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ (Subscribe/UnSubscribe instructions at the bottom of this alert) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ by Larry Pratt During World War II, governors of east and west coast states called up the citizen-militia to deal with the threat of invasion by the Germans and Japanese. Following 9/11, the governors did nothing and the federal government created a new bureaucracy in Washington to coordinate federal police agencies. Everybody knows that Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, an act which was followed by a congressional declaration of war in 1941. Many fewer know that the Japanese made no plans to attack the American mainland because of the militia, the armed populace. Nationally renowned firearms trainer Massad Ayoob had a personal conversation with a naval veteran. He reported (in Backwoods Home Magazine earlier this year) that in the early 1960's, Bob Menard was part of joint maneuvers with the Japanese, many of whom were World War II veterans. At dinner, one of the Japanese officers explained why the Japanese did not invade: The officer had replied that his country was well aware that there was a high density of armed citizenry in America, even state championships for private citizens in the use of military rifles, and that the Japanese were not fools to set foot in such quicksand. The threat of Japanese attack was real enough at the time. The Japanese did successfully occupy a couple of the Aleutian Islands in 1942, and it cost 700 American lives to dislodge them. Also in 1942, a Japanese sub fired shells at an oil refinery at Goleta, California and later fired shells into the naval base at Fort Stevens, Oregon. In response, militia patrolled the west coast of the country during those tense years. In the east, a German submarine penetrated Long Island from a sub for the purpose of blowing up bridges and water works. The saboteurs were captured and executed. Civilian pilots and sailors patrolled the east coast with their handguns and rifles at the ready. Fifty years later, four gun-free zones flew right past the noses of the professional police forces of the country. During the time the Muslim mass murderers were preparing for 9/11, the FBI was investigating President Clinton's bete noire, the vast right wing conspiracy. They did not have even a clue as to the real threat to America. In spite of the national police force's record of failure, even more centralization of their power is being coordinated by Tom Ridge, the director of Homeland Security. The airplanes are still gun free, and we know from FAA inspectors that they have been successful in slipping weapons through airport security nearly fifty percent of the time. This is following the federalization of airport security personnel. The President and his subordinates have opposed even arming pilots. (Would it have been a bad thing or a good thing if a passenger or two had had a gun on the planes of 9/11?) The Constitution provides for the militia. It gives the Congress power to provision the militia and to select its officers. Why are the citizen militia not being called up to guard bridges, waterworks, nuclear plants, and airports? They have as much training for this as the National Guard and other military units that have been assigned for some of these duties -- none. Other than Military Police, the training of the military is to search and destroy -- not exactly the training needed for protecting nuclear power plants. Why was the militia good enough for providing homeland security in the 1940's, but not in 2002? We should not stretch our Clinton-decimated military further than it is now. We should be calling up and training citizen militias. Perhaps the idea of using "civilians" violates the unconstitutional notion that security can only be provided by a centralized, professionalized police force. The people cannot be trusted, in this view, to participate in providing their own protection. This notion of a centralized police fits comfortably with the growing acceptance that only the federal government can provide for all of life's needs -- education, old age, unemployment, health, etc. The growing preemption of American life by the federal government has no room for individual responsibility. Rather than encourage the militia, politicians are busily looking for ways to disarm more and more Americans. It is an unconstitutional view. 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