From: owner-utah-firearms-digest@lists.xmission.com (utah-firearms-digest) To: utah-firearms-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: utah-firearms-digest V2 #226 Reply-To: utah-firearms-digest Sender: owner-utah-firearms-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-utah-firearms-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk utah-firearms-digest Wednesday, March 13 2002 Volume 02 : Number 226 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 01:58:42 -0500 From: Chad Leigh -- Pengar Enterprises Inc. Subject: Fwd: Dell Update (fwd) Begin forwarded message: > From: Bill Vance > Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 10:31:31 US/Eastern > To: 2roc@xpresso.com > Subject: Dell Update (fwd) > Reply-To: roc@lists.xmission.com > > -------------------- begin forwarded message from Neal > Atkins -------------------- > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:43:46 -0600 > From: Neal Atkins > Subject: Dell Update > > Update 2/27/02 > > After fielding hundreds of emails and dozens of phone calls today my > heart felt thanks to all who responded. > > I was contacted by a Dell representative this morning a Mr. John Hood. > John made the following remarks. He extended Dells sincerest apologies > for > the incident. > > He said Dell would review and possibly change the screening policies to > prevent this from happening again. > > Dell offered to ship the machine I ordered to me at no charge, I > respectfully > declined the offer. > > John told me he would have a statement sent to me sometime Thursday > morning > the 28th stating Dells position on this issue for me to post here for > all to > see. > > I will post the statement as soon as I receive it. > > > I thank the Firearms community as a family for being so willing to come > to my aid. > > > God Bless > Jack Weigand > President > Weigand Combat Handguns Inc. > > http://www.jackweigand.com > > -------------------- end forwarded message from Neal > Atkins -------------------- > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** > 4-19! > ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath > no > weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his > hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and > buy a > on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus > Christ > ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > > Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:33:11 -0700 From: "Larry Larsen" Subject: RE: Dell Computers becomes anti-gun. Not so read this, http://www.sierratimes.com/02/03/01/jjjohnson.htm Larry - -----Original Message----- From: owner-utah-firearms@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-utah-firearms@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Charles C Hardy Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 4:52 PM To: utah-firearms@xmission.com Subject: FW: Dell Computers becomes anti-gun. I've made no attempts to verify the following, but assuming it is accurate, it looks like Dell computers are not a good place for gun owners to spend money. - --------- Forwarded message ---------- Not to be confused with Superdell and Totally Awesome. - ---------- > > Subject: To all of my friends > > I am writing this because I feel every Firearms owner should know this > story. > > I placed an order for a Dell notebook computer on February 13 on line > with Dell. I was given a tentative delivery date of February 21st. I was > watching the order through the Dell on line tracking system; I also > opted for the automatic email notification of when the machine was to be > shipped. > > Well the 21st came and went, I am a Pistolsmith I know things > can happen. I made a phone call on the 25th, did a voice mail message > for my salesman to get back to me and I was looking for the delivery > date. > > The 25th came and went with no callback. On the 26th I placed > another call this time to cancel the order. After a few hours I got a > call back, with this amazing reason for the delay. It seems someone in > Dell had already canceled my order, when I asked why I was told Dell was > afraid I was going to use the machine for illegal purposes. > > When I askedwhy someone would think that I was told > it was because of the name of my business "Weigand Combat Handguns Inc.". > Because I am involved in firearms I might be doing something illegal. Now > keep in mind I was never called or informed of this decision the order was > just canceled. > > Many of you know me personally and know I run my business about as > squeaky clean as possible. In addition being the President of the > American Pistolsmiths Guild I am under additional scrutiny as to how I > run my business, if I am not clean how can I be the President of an > organization that promotes just that! I was informed by a Dell > supervisor not long after all of this the reason I was refused was > because of their post September 11th policy of screening buyers. > > I would like to respectfully ask the firearms community to do the > following. If you intended to buy a Dell and because of this letter you > do not, email Dell and let them know why. Feel free to distribute this > account to all you know in the Firearms community, I think they need to > know. > > I for one am sick and tired of people assuming just because we are > involved with firearms that we are doing something illegal. I also do > not believe Dell deserves our business if this is how they intend to > treat us. > > God Bless > Jack Weigand > President > American Pistolsmiths Guild Inc. > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - - - --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.324 / Virus Database: 181 - Release Date: 2/14/02 - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.324 / Virus Database: 181 - Release Date: 2/14/02 - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 09:32:38 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: Fantastica Review: The Probability Broach, by L. Neil Smith http://www.mervius.com/books/2002/probability_broach.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:09:55 -0700 From: charles hardy Subject: HB 219 fourth on Calander, but cirecled--call and/or email tonight This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ----__JNP_000_2e2c.7755.78d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Morgan Philpot's HB 219 which would eliminate the fees to obtain a State issued CCW permit was fourth on the House calander, but was "circled" (meaning it was held up). Please call your representatives at 538-1029 and ask them to support this bill, first with a vote to "uncircle" and then with a vote in favor of the bill. You can also try email though that tends to be less effective. You can also call them and leave messages at home for them this evening. Also, Philpot's HB 183, which removes fees for the pre-purchase State "brady" check is still languising in the Senate as is Rep. Swallow's safe storage bill, HB 82, and Rep. Thompson's HB 287. For some reason, the Senate chose to adjourn early tonight (about 5:30 pm) rather than acting on these and other important bills. Please contact your senators and senate leadership this evening at home, or tomorrow at the capital and ask them to support these bills. Utah State Senate Phone (801) 538-1035 or Fax (801) 538-1414 Utah State House of Representatives Phone (801) 538-1029 or Fax (801) 538-1908 - ---------------- Charles Hardy - ----__JNP_000_2e2c.7755.78d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Morgan Philpot's HB 219 which would eliminate the fees to obtain a = State=20 issued CCW permit was fourth on the House calander, but was "circled" (= meaning=20 it was held up).  Please call your representatives at 538-1029 and ask= them=20 to support this bill, first with a vote to "uncircle" and then with a vote = in=20 favor of the bill.  You can also try email though that tends to be = less=20 effective.  You can also call them and leave messages at home for them= this=20 evening.
 
Also, Philpot's HB 183, which removes fees for the pre-purchase State= =20 "brady" check is still languising in the Senate as is Rep. Swallow's safe=20 storage bill, HB 82, and Rep. Thompson's HB 287.  For some reason, the= =20 Senate chose to adjourn early tonight (about 5:30 pm) rather than acting=20 on  these and other important bills.
 
Please contact your senators and senate leadership this evening at = home, or=20 tomorrow at the capital and ask them to support these bills.
 
Utah State Senate
Phone (801) 538-1035 or Fax (801) 538-1414
Utah=20 State House of Representatives
Phone (801) 538-1029 or Fax (801)=20 538-1908

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- ----__JNP_000_2e2c.7755.78d1-- ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:37:12 -0700 From: Charles C Hardy Subject: Pro-gun bills on Senate second read calander--call now and urge support Friends, It looks like all of our pro-gun House bills are now on the Senate Second Read Calander. PLEASE CALL AND FAX NOW AND URGE YOUR SENATOR AND SENATE LEADERSHIP TO SUPPORT THESE BILLS AND MAKE SURE THEY DO GET VOTED ON TODAY AND PASSED. Messages for senators can be left at the capital at (801) 538-1035. You can generally leave a message for at least 4 or 5 senators per call, so I suggest you leave a message for your Senator, plus senate leadership: President Al Mansell, Majority Leader Steve Poulton, Majority Whip John Valentine, Asst. Majority Whip, Peter Knudson. Faxes can be sent to (801) 538-1414. Email is less effective, but better than nothing. The senate email is flaky if sent from an outside email server. You are better off using their stupid web based service at http://beta.utahsenate.org/perl/sperl/roster.pl Just click on the senator to whom you wish to send email, then click on the email link. You can also try direct email. A list of addresses can be had at: http://www.utgoa.org/resources/legcontact02.html Please be polite, but firm, in all communications with elected officials. Charles Bills include: HB 287 CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF STATE EMPLOYEES H.B. 82 1st Sub. STORAGE OF WEAPONS ON FACILITIES WITH SECURE AREAS H.B. 183 FIREARM CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK AMENDMENTS H.B. 336 1st Sub. USE OF FORCE, INCLUDING DEADLY FORCE, IN DEFENSE OF PROPERTY ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 17:24:24 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: Firearms laws don't work - Richard L. Partridge LTE http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,375013847,00.html? Deseret News, Tuesday, March 05, 2002 Firearms laws don't work Regarding your editorial on concealed weapons on campus: For the life of me, I can't imagine how the "gun issue is tied to academic freedom" and "that the presence of firearms on a college campus would undermine a free exchange of ideas." A concealed weapon is not even in view, and no one but the bearer is normally even aware of its presence. I would agree "that college campuses are unique because they are gathering places of people with vastly divergent backgrounds and points of view." However, it is irrational to make it a safe haven for criminals by declaring it a "gun-free" zone. Restrictive firearms laws only protect criminals by disarming their potential victims. U. President Bernie Machen ranted that "we prohibit guns at mental hospitals or prisons, why not college campuses?" To which a more rational legislator replied, "because our students are not mentally ill or criminals." Now that's common sense and has nothing to do with "political whim." The bottom line is this: Our Utah Constitution says that "the individual right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense of self, family, others, property or the state, as well as for other lawful purposes, shall not be infringed." And, the best reason I can think of for that is the fact that if infringements of that right would make us safer, New York City and Washington, D.C., would be the safest places on earth. Try that on for common sense. Richard L. Partridge Brigham City © 2002 Deseret News Publishing Company - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:29:18 -0700 From: Charles C Hardy Subject: CONGRATS!! SB 147, restriction on funding passes Senate Second Reading This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ----__JNP_000_2fed.3b69.2797 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sen. Waddoups' SB 147, which will allow any legislator to point out cases where a State agency is violating State law via illegal rules or policies and to allow the legislature to easily cut the ADMINISTRATIVE portion of the budget of that agency if they do not comply (IE, if the UofU does not drop its illegal gun ban, the budget of the administrators who are responsible for the illegal rule will be cut, but not the budget that goes to classrooms or teachers), has passed its second reading the senate on a 15-11-3 vote. Roll call below. Please contact senators and urge them to get the third vote taken and send this much needed bill to the house. While gun bans are one area, they are not the only area of concern. Numerous STate agencies disregard legislative intent and clear language of the law because there are few to no consequences. This bill will be a big step to changing that. Charles 15 YEAS 11 NAYS 3 ABSENT PASSED YEAS 15 Bramble Hellewell Mayne Waddoups Buttars Hickman Spencer Wright Eastman Jenkins Stephenson Mansell Gladwell Knudson Valentine NAYS 11 Allen, E. Dmitrich Julander Suazo Allen, R. Evans Peterson Walker Davis Hillyard Steele ABSENT 3 Blackham Hale Poulton - ----__JNP_000_2fed.3b69.2797 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Sen. Waddoups' SB 147, which will allow any legislator to point out = cases=20 where a State agency is violating State law via illegal rules or policies = and to=20 allow the legislature to easily cut the ADMINISTRATIVE portion of the = budget of=20 that agency if they do not comply (IE, if the UofU does not drop its = illegal gun=20 ban, the budget of the administrators who are responsible for the illegal = rule=20 will be cut, but not the budget that goes to classrooms or teachers), has = passed=20 its second reading the senate on a 15-11-3 vote.  Roll call below.&= nbsp;=20 Please contact senators and urge them to get the third vote taken and send = this=20 much needed bill to the house.  While gun bans are one area, they are = not=20 the only area of concern.  Numerous STate agencies disregard = legislative=20 intent and clear language of the law because there are few to no=20 consequences.  This bill will be a big step to changing that.
 
Charles
 
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For now, please contact YOUR senator, plus senate leadership and encourage them to act quickly to approve this bill. Charles Hardy ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:18:43 -0700 From: charles hardy Subject: Calls needed to Senate NOW on SB 147 Waddoups' SB 147 that will allow the cutting of the administrative budget of any agency whose rules violate State law is in trouble. We need calls to the Senate ASAP. We probably only have about 15 minutes (as of 10:10am) to round up a couple of votes. CALL the Senate at (801) 538-1035. You can leave messages for up to 5 Senators with each call. I suggest leaving a message for your Senator plus 4 of the following. Apparantly the following Republicans are waivering: Mansell Valentine Eastman Knudsen And Poulton and Walker are still opposed. Please be polite and respectful. A simple, "Please support SB 147, it is very important to me." Is all that is needed. Charles - ---------------- Charles Hardy ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:15:36 -0700 From: Charles C Hardy Subject: SUCCESS SB 147 passes Senate on to house Success!! The phone calls worked. SB 147, Restriction on Funding of State Agency, just passed it's third reading in the Senate and is on to house. This is the last day of the session. Please call the House at once and leave a message for your representative asking them to support SB 147, Restriction on Funding of State Agency. Messages can be left at the House switchboard at 538-1029 for up to 5 Representatives. Please call and leave messages for your own Rep and also a few others, including house leadership. Charles Hardy ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:43:37 -0700 From: Charles C Hardy Subject: Fw: [UTGOA] It's over! Quick report - CORRECTED - ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Sarah Thompson To: utgoa@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 04:09:35 -0700 Subject: [UTGOA] It's over! Quick report - CORRECTED We inadvertently left a very important and successful bill off the previous alert. This is the corrected version. Thanks to YOUR efforts, we had a very successful legislative session. We also set the stage for being even more successful in the future. THANK YOU! A full report will follow in a day or two, but here's the bottom line: HB 78 Gun Show Background Check (Scott Daniels) - FAILED HB 78 would have required a background check and registration of all gun transactions at gun shows, fairs, and even a few friends selling guns from someone's home. HB 82 Storage of Concealed Firearms on Facilities With Secure Areas (John E. Swallow) - PASSED HB 82 requires courts to provide storage lockers for all legally carried firearms, including both open and concealed carry. HB 183 Firearm Criminal Background Check Amendments (J. Morgan Philpot) - FAILED HB 183 would have eliminated the $7.50 background check fee for gun purchases. HB 211 Repeal of Weapons Law (Scott Daniels) - FAILED HB 211 would have repealed Utah's pre-emption law and allowed city, county, university and other local government entities to ban guns. HB 219 Firearm Fee Amendments (J. Morgan Philpot) - DIED WITHOUT A VOTE HB 219 would have eliminated fees for concealed carry permits HB 287 Constitutional Rights of State Employees (Mike Thompson) - PASSED HB 287 says that state employees may not be forced to surrender Constitutional rights in return for a state paycheck, and that foster parents also may not be required to surrender their rights. HB 336 Use of Force, Including Deadly Force, in Defense of Property (Mike Thompson) - PASSED HB 336 provides protection from civil suits for persons who use lethal force to stop a violent attack while on their own property. SB 121 Concealed Firearm Permit Amendments (Scott K. Jenkins) - FAILED SB 121 would have removed the state mandate for training classes for concealed carry permits. SB 147 Restriction of Funding on State Entity Whose Policy, Rule, Or Action Is Contrary to Law (Michael G. Waddoups) - FAILED (but by only 3 votes!) SB 147 would have provided a mechanism for the legislature to cut the funding of a state entity that violated Utah law. This would have brought rogue agencies back into line and saved a lot of money spent by state agencies suing each other. SB 164 Secure Facilities Amendments (David L. Gladwell) - PASSED SB 164 enables a university to set up a secure area hearing room, provided it is done properly with metal detectors, storage lockers, posted signs, written notice, etc. The hearing room can be secured only while being used for hearings. Just as important, the universities may NOT ban guns anywhere on campus other than the secure area hearing room. Out of ten bills, we had SIX victories and one very near victory on a bill no one expected to get as far as it did. We also got several strong pro-gun bills through committees, which means that even though they didn't pass this year, we're much more likely to get them passed next year - especially if the funding situation improves. This is an excellent record - especially in a short session where funding was a major problem. Utah Gun Owners Alliance is successful only because of YOU. Your calls, letters, faxes, and emails are what enable us to protect and restore gun rights. THANK YOU! Please take a few moments to thank the legislators who were willing to sponsor pro-gun bills, and any other legislators you found to be particularly cooperative. We will be sending out a report with more details sometime in the next few days. We will also be publishing our legislative report card as soon as possible. In the meantime, if you'd like more details, and voting records, please visit the Utah legislative web site at http://www.le.state.ut.us Thanks again! Copyright 2002, Utah Gun Owners Alliance, Inc. and Sarah Thompson PO Box 1185 Sandy, UT 84091 801-566-1625 http://www.utgoa.org Director@utgoa.org PLEASE SUPPORT UTAH GUN OWNERS ALLIANCE! JOIN US TODAY! Did someone forward this to you? Please SUBSCRIBE NOW! 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For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:39:31 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: RLC News & Views - March 11, 2002 Excerpt Yeah, That About It Sums It Up "The ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) doesn't go after guys who stick up 7-Elevens. It's a tax collection agency. It's main job is to infringe and restrict the right of otherwise law-abiding Americans to keep and bear arms." - - Columnist Vin Suprynowicz - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:15:16 -0700 From: Charles C Hardy Subject: Hardy Files for LD 41 Hello all, This morning, in the SLCo Clerk's office, I officially filed as a Republican candidate for the NEW Utah House District #41. District 41 is one of the new districts created during last year's decannual redistricting. It comprises parts of Sandy, Draper, Riverton, and Bluffdale. I believe it should lean reasonably strongly towards Republican in the General Election. Perhaps most importantly, no incumbent lives within the district; it is an open seat. I believe I can win this seat and provide a strong pro-gun, pro-reform, limited-government, voice and vote in the Utah House. But I need YOUR help. I expect the lion's share of the battle for this seat to take place in the SLCo GOP Convention. I hope to wrap up enough delegates' votes to win the nomination in convention. However, I am also preparing for a full primary campaign if needed. And, of course, I am also starting on plans for the general election. I'd like you to consider how much time, money, energy, and frustration you've spent the last 2 or 4 or 6 years in battling for your rights. Also, how much did you spend on your last trip to the range, or your last hunting trip? How much are you willing to invest NOW to help elect a candidate who won't need to be coddled, cajoled, pressured, or prodded into doing the right thing and who will ACTIVELY work to HELP you hold other Representatives accountable? I am committed to not only defending our gun rights, but to actually FURTHERING them. Among other needed advances, I WILL sponsor "right-to-carry" (aka Vermont Carry) legislation EVERY year I'm in office until it passes and becomes law. I am committed to REAL educational reform. Teachers need to be treated like professionals. Parents need to have real choice. Students deserve excellence to prepare them for life. And taxpayers simply cannot be asked to foot higher and higher bills. I will vigorously support Universal Tuition Tax Credits. I am also fully prepared and willing to sponsor UTTC legislation AND to push it. The only reason I would not personally sponsor UTTC is IF the grassroots who have become the experts in this area determine that someone else should sponsor it instead. I will also support administrative accountability measures including legislation like SB 147 to allow the legislature to readily use their proper, Constitutional power of the purse-strings to encourage agencies and departments to fully comply with legislative intent and State law. But I can't do any of those things unless YOU are willing to help me. I need people in my district to attend their caucus meetings Monday, March 25th, and get elected County Delegates. I need volunteers from anywhere to hand out literature at the convention. I will need volunteers to walk neighborhoods prior to the primary (if there is one) and the general elections. I will need volunteers to make phone calls on election days. And I need financial contributions to pay for needed flyers, mailings, signs, banners, etc. It is a rare opportunity to not have to face an entrenched incumbent. Please don't let this opportunity to get a solid, real conservative elected. A RINO from this district will not do our rights any more good than a democrat. The convention will determine whether the Republican party selects a RINO or a real conservative. If you have questions, or would like to volunteer to help, I can be reached at this email address, utbagpiper@juno.com. or via phone in the evenings at (801) 523-3817. Campaign Contributions can be made payable to: Committee to Elect Charles Hardy 9442 So. David St. Sandy, Utah 84070 Please do not send cash via the postal service. And please drop me an email or give me a phone call when you send your check so I'll know what is coming and I can budget for it. Thank you. Charles Hardy Candidate, Utah House district 41. Sandy, Draper, Bluffdale, Riverton. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:38:26 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: Fw: S.A.S. Express your outrage to H&R Block We seem to be getting a spate of these lately; Dell, Google, and now H&R Block. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juli Bednarzyk" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:34 pm Subject: S.A.S. Express your outrage to H&R Block Dear Members and Supporters, We would like to ask that you take a moment to express your displeasure to H&R Block over their recent decision to cut off their affiliate program with the NRA. Although not affiliated at all with the NRA, we use the same means as fundraising and benefits that they do - joining into affiliate agreements with companies. Something like this will trickle down to the companies that we have agreements with, and is also a direct attack on the basic human right of self-defense. The contact page is: http://www.hrblock.com/customer_support/submit_a_question.jsp Or, please email or call: Bob Schneider (816) 932-4835 bschneider@hrblock.com Cyd Slayton (816) 932-8470 cslayton@hrblock.com Linda McDougall (816) 932-7542 lmcdougall@hrblock.com The press release from Gun Watch follows. SASsily, Juli Bednarzyk *** For Immediate Release March 12, 2002 Contacts: Julie Bernstein Kristin Becker (202) 822-6070 H&R Block Severs Ties with National Rifle Association Washington, D.C.-In a stunning defeat for the gun lobby, H&R Block, the nation's largest tax preparation firm, today severed a controversial marketing agreement it had entered into with the National Rifle Association (NRA). H&R Block's withdrawal from the program came as a result of widespread protests spearheaded by the Alliance for Justice's Gun Industry Watch, and supported by the Million Mom March united with the Brady Campaign and the Mid-Atlantic Coalition to Prevent Gun Violence. "Let this send a loud message to other corporate partners of the NRA," said Alliance for Justice President Nan Aron. "If you support the NRA, we will work to make sure that your employees, customers, and all of your stakeholders know that you support an extremist gun lobby that is out of step with mainstream America." "The termination of this agreement is a tremendous victory for everyone who was outraged that a reputable business like H&R Block would support an extremist organization like the NRA," said Michael D. Barnes, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence united with the Million Mom March. "Marketing your products to a specific group of people is an accepted business practice, but H&R Block crossed the line when it agreed to pay royalties to the NRA." "Corporations doing business with the NRA should be very concerned by the large efforts of hundreds of gun safety activists that came out in defiance of H&R Block's agreement with the NRA," said Bryan Miller of the Mid-Atlantic Coalition to Prevent Gun Violence. H&R Block had entered into an agreement with a marketing company called Memberdrive to market its products and services to NRA members. However, the agreement also provided for "royalties" paid by H&R Block, through Memberdrive, to the NRA. According an H&R Block advertisement that ran in the March issue of America's First Freedom, the NRA's magazine, H&R Block "will make a contribution to the NRA for every Member who becomes a new customer." Memberdrive's Senior Vice President of Marketing is Susan LaPierre, wife of NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre. Gun Industry Watch, a student network, first exposed the agreement in late February, staging a protest outside of an H&R Block outlet in Washington, DC, and planning dozens more. Over the past two weeks, thousands of activists including those from the Million Mom March and the Brady Campaign joined with Gun Industry Watch and called, faxed and e-mailed H&R Block to express their objections to this agreement and to educate the company on the extremist positions that the NRA has taken in the past. With Gun Industry Watch recruiting students, Million Mom March recruiting its members and support from the Mid-Atlantic Coalition to Prevent Gun Violence, protests of H&R Block offices in more than 50 cities had been planned for mid-March. These protests have now been called off. "This victory shows the power of the gun control movement's grassroots," said Aron. "When you engage students and moms together, it's a potent combination." "H&R Block now understands that, by areeing to this royalty scheme, it was furthering the reckless political agenda of the NRA's leadership," said Mr. Barnes. "Congratulations to Gun Industry Watch and to all of our Million Mom March activists and members for making their voices heard." ### - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:55:58 -0700 From: Scott Bergeson Subject: Letter to H&R Block Subject: Letter to H&R Block Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:29:05 -0500 From: hunter@mva.net To: lrtdiscuss@vader.com To: bschneider@hrblock.com, cslayton@hrblock.com,lmcdougall@hrblock.com Subject: H&R Block wrong to reject NRA Gentlemen, If you will check your files, you will find that I have had a long and fruitful association with H&R Block. I believe you folks have done my taxes for the better part of 15 years, maybe longer. But I have just learned of a decision on your part which, if not corrected immediately, will end that association. I am speaking of your ill-informed decision to back out of a member affiliate arrangement with the NRA. The NRA has a long and honorable history of teaching firearms safety and lobbying to protect a right so important that the founders of this nation found it necessary to forbid government from infringing it. Criminological, sociological, and economic studies over the past 30 years have demonstrated conclusively how right they were. These results demonstrate that the two million or more instances of responsible citizens successfully defending themselves against violent criminals each year with firearms far outweigh the criminal uses. Estimates of the net economic benefit to society of private firearms ownership run into the tens of billions of dollars annually. Persuasive as these utilitarian arguments may be, they pale in significance beside the philosophical ones propounded by the framers of the Constitution. They believed quite firmly that the ultimate authority in society must be the citizens, and that one of the most important guarantees of this bedrock American principle of freedom was an unfettered right to keep and bear arms. You, sirs, have placed yourself squarely on the side of people advocating the direct violation of civil rights protected under the United States Constitution, and all but a bare handful of the state constitutions. I cannot in clear conscience continue to do business with any corporation who would make such a choice. So until I hear that H&R Block has rescinded this decision and apologized to the membership of the NRA, I will take my business elsewhere. Thank you for your kind attention to this matter. Jeffrey L Jordan [Address redacted] - --- Hunter's Seventy Seventh Rule: The measure of the menace of a man is not what hardware he carries, but what ideas he believes. 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