ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ OOOOOOOOOOO RRRRRRRRRRRRR NNN NNN Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ooooooooooooo r rr nnnn nnn zz o o r rr nnnnn nnn zzz o o r rr nnnnnn nnn zzz o o r rr nnn nnn nnn zzz o o r rr nnn nnn nnn zzz o o r rr nnn nnn nnn zzz o o rrrrrrrrrrrrr nnn nnn nnn zzz o o rr rr nnn nnn nnn zzz ooooooooooooo rr rr nnn nnnnnn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZ OOOOOOOOOOO rr rr nnn nnnnn ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ rr rr nnn nnnn rr rr NNN NNN RR RR (AND OTHER NYC DOWNTOWN MUSICIANS) posts: zorn@unh.edu sub/unsub: zorn-request@unh.edu *** BACK ISSUES of this digest can be obtained in one of two ways: *** 1) anonymous FTP at cs.uwp.edu *** 2) via my homepage: http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mpj1 DIGEST #53, 5-8-95 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sibbage@mercury.sfsu.edu Fri May 5 17:55:05 1995 Subject: Bailey's book Anyone (or everyone) read Derek Bailey's book on improvisation? I just finished it last night and I thought it was just fantastic. Very inspiring/educational/thought provoking. Going to see Painkiller tonight. (very excited) (5/5) A list of the tour dates appears under Knitting Factory in the KF tours section. (Somewhere here on this internet thing we are using.) Now I've heard: new Boredoms 5/9 new Ruins 5/23 new Mr. Bungle 8/28 Too slow. Jake (sibbage@sfsu.edu) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From scofielc@elwha.evergreen.edu Fri May 5 18:41:33 1995 Subject: Re: Painkiller kicked my ass Saw Painkiller last night...like i stated before, this is my first live initiation to zorn/laswell live... oh my goodness, how the hell can i state the magnitude of euphoria the show left me with? 2 solid hours (including encore) of extreme virtuoso by all three members under intense sonic volume. just like i like it. Some dub, some ambient (the encore especially; spacy bass effects, hushed sax passages with loads of gimmickery, and Mick Harris coming out from the drum riser to scream and scream), some jazz, LOADS of death metal (thax Mick!) and improvisation. To a packed house at Moe's in Seattle. My jawbone hurts from the weight of gravity as it fell over and over again. Painkiller is the quintessential trans-genre trio. And i got in for free! DO NOT MISS THIS SHOW!!! --c. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ROBERT703@delphi.com Fri May 5 23:47:13 1995 Subject: Re: ZORN DIGEST #52 Is there a Zorn itinerary available? I'd be interested in when he may play LA or San Diego. Jud ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From LeeGar@aol.com Sat May 6 12:15:33 1995 Subject: Re: ZORN DIGEST #52 Robert_Ruzic@tvo.org wrote: :Subject: Re: ZORN DIGEST #44 : :Has anyone seen the new "rockumentary" on Fred Frith? The name of it is :Step Across The Border and, here in Toronto, the reviews have ranged :from brilliant to mediocre. I'm wondering what the general reaction is over :here (or there (?)). haven't seen the flick but did pick up the cd the other day: Fred Frith-Step Across the Border Music for the film by Nicolas and Werner Penzel w/ Iva Bittova, Hans Bruniusson, Tome Cora, Tina Curran, Jean Derome, Pavel Fajt, ino Haapala, Haco, Eitetsu Hayashi, Tom Hodgkinson, Lasse Hollmer, Bill Laswell, Rene Lussier, Fred Maher, Kevin Norton, Bob Ostertag, Zeena Parkins, &.. John Zorn. *the cd is reissued and licensed from RecRec. **Patrice did you hear about this reissue? ;~) -the label is located at 1990 East Side DIgital, 200 N. 3rd Ave, Minneapolis --------- michael Wittman (mwittman@delphi.umd.edu) wrote: >Subject: Masada plays at a free form jazz festival... > >I read in a recent Billboard magazine (trade magazine for radio, you >know, the Casey Kasem Top 40 thing....), and in one jazz section, it >mentioned that in Toronto (I think) "John Zorn's Masada" would be >playing. When? Obviously after all the Painkiller dates. I can't recall >if it was in May or June, but the festival of which he is a part runs >from the 18th to the 24th. ..snip.... yeah, I posted about the Victoriaville Music Festival a few zorn digest's ago. It's nothing but a date list.. but that should be enough. Issue #43 is where it's located. ------------------- mike rizzi said: :steev aka VirComm@aol.com sez: :>Wow, I also just heard that Zorn was going to be in Chapel Hill, NC on :>5/7, so he must be really busy... does anyone have a list of tour dates, if :>he is actually on tour and not just doing a couple isolated gigs? : : It's a tour with about 10 dates...I was going to : type them all in but I couldn't find the area within : the Axiom homepage where I last saw the tour schedule. : : p.s. Whoever has seen one of the Painkiller shows from : this tour, fill us in. I'm going on friday 5/5... Here it is: KF Tours: PAINKILLER - Tour Schedule: ------------------------------------------------- Wed..May 3..Pittsburgh, PA....Manny Theiner Prod Thu..May 4..Seattle, WA.......Rock Candy Fri..May 5..San Francisco,CA..Slim's Sat..May 6..Minneapolis, MN...First Avenue Sun..May 7..Chappel Hill, NC..Cat'sCraddle Sun..May 9..Washington DC.....Black Cat Wed..May 10.Boston, MA........Middle East Fri..May 12.New York..........Knitting Factory Sat..May 13.New York..........Knitting Factory ------------------------------------------------- Oh yeah, i'll be seeing them @ the Black Cat on Tues, will let ya know whta i think as they just balanced their sound system. By the way, is anybody gonna be taping one of these shows? Also, I saw @ a local music shop the cd of Material-Metatron but done by nyc materials artist(?) Rockit. It was pretty cool covered in thick pin cushion like thick black rubber (the whole case is about 1 inch thick) adhered to one of Subharmonic's silly black cd cases and smelly like a auto tire repair shop (silly, as in if you own more than a couple of them there is no writing on the spines and ya havta guess where ya put the one you're looking for.. and I have a few.. cds). The only prob was the thing was $28.52! Anybody know if there are extra tracks or whatevrr on this thing or just a collector's item? I allready picked up the 'Rockit' Execution Ground metal cased cd for the samed price, and yes... it's not diff than the regular release. I mailed my Masada coupons about 2 1/2 weeks ago (i know i'm impatient) but was wondering if anybody has recv'd #4 back from Japan yet? Also, have heard about a "Zorn CD featuring the Tokyo Symphony Orchestra playing Zorn's 'For Your Eyes Only'. (Along with works by H. Miyake & J. Maceda) ... It's on a Japanese label called Fontec." from Shiruba on aol. Was wondering if anybody knew anything about this disc. latr, Lee Garth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From fripp@ibm.net Sun May 7 03:00:57 1995 Subject: Masada #4 I just saw Painkiller this evening and afterward met and talked briefly with them, and Mr. Zorn told me that in order to get the fourth Masada disc, send the three proof of purchase things to the address and they'll send it to you. I asked him if there was any potential problems with the whole Yen issue and according to him, don't worry about that. He said that as long as you send the proof of purchase, there's no problem. He even said that if you no longer had them, you could photocopy the covers of the three albums and that would also work. Now, keep in mind that this was a very informal Q&A session at the end of what had to be a tiring show, so I hope no-one gets pissed at me if they try and nothing happens. I hope that it's really as easy as that, but for now I really need to get some sleep. The show was incredible. Not only was the performance great, but to find out that Mick Harris is a really cool person was a real added bonus. After the show, Zorn and Harris were out talking to people and signing autographs and the like and when I asked Mick if Laswell was coming out, he invited me backstage to talk to them. Very cool. I've met dozens of my favorite performers over the past few years, but to be able to not only meet three of my favorites at once, but to also find out that they're great people was an added bonus that made this performance even better. -f By the way, for anyone that's interested, Harris mentioned that most (if not all) of his previously Import-only stuff was soon coming out on Subharmonic, so it should be available domestically very soon. fripp@ibm.net ---------------------------------------- -------------- - In love with this elegant bitch - gn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmcarey@students.wisc.edu Mon May 8 00:32:00 1995 Subject: Painkiller After only finding out about the Minneapolis Painkiller show Friday night, I'm happy to say I was able to get a ticket & also successfully make the 6 hour trip (by bus) to see them on Saturday. What can I say: Absolutely brilliant!! The crowd could do nothing except stand in awe watching the three masters at work. They played nearly a two hour set of improvs built around selections from "Execution Ground" and even came out for a short encore. Got to chat with both Zorn & Mick . . . and got John Hancocks from all three. Definitely check them out during one of their last few dates if you have the chance. Not to be missed!! - Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From boster@email.unc.edu Mon May 8 02:41:16 1995 Subject: Painkiller in Chapel Hill This is a sketchy response to the Painkiller show in Chapel Hill, NC on 5/7. I may fill it out some later, but I wanted to get my early thoughts out to people who could be seeing them soon so they can have a little context to decide if they want to go, etc. While there were a lot of things I can find to be critical about, I generally enjoyed the show and would encourage everyone to attend. The pieces they played were much more loosely combined then on either of the domestic releases. The general idea was this (and many of these threads could have been specific to the sound system in the club): Laswell played a lot - sometimes overplaying, usually heavily treated and manipulated stuff. Zorn played sporadically, always using a pretty heavy - and suprising constant delay patch. Much of the Zorn stuff used drones countered with those lucious runs of his. Mick Harris pounded, but his drum sound was thin compared to the heavily treated wailing of the guys up front. His dub parts worked a lot better in terms of balance. The playing was free and often really full, but there could have been a lot more restraint. It seemed like often Harris was trying to be RS Jackson (see Last Exit, Power Tools) and he just doesn't have the time keeping while running around the kit thing down. Both Zorn and Harris did some non-verbal vocalizations which worked well in the direction of the ambient disc. There almost always seemed to be someone playing outside of the context of what the group was playing, which sometimes worked and sometimes held things back. There were a ton of solos. Most of the pieces were long, which ran counter to my expectation. The crowd (pretty good turnout - around 225) really responded well, calling for two encores. I liked it, but I thought it was a little easy and less tight then I felt like I deserved from the three of them. I was overwhelmed (and sometimes a little put upon) by Laswell's chops - I had never seen him before. I'm interested to hear how the shows were elsewhere. Also it did not seem like either Laswell or Zorn were much interested in being in the rock star mode: little stage presence, shitty interaction with the crowd, didn't like the lights, fucked with the sound guy alot... Oh well, I guess you can't expect your idols to be polite too. Bob Boster boster@email.unc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------