From: ztt-owner@xmission.com To: ztt-digest@xmission.com Subject: ztt Digest V2 #8 Reply-To: ztt@xmission.com Errors-To: ztt-owner@xmission.com Precedence: ztt Digest Friday, 22 November 1996 Volume 02 : Number 008 In this issue: (ztt) Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes (ztt) 808 State - Remixes & Rare 97 (more info) (ztt) Claudia, where are you? (ztt) Claudia info (ztt) Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes Re: (ztt) Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes (ztt) FGTH's appearance on Saturday Night Live (ztt) david sylvian on propaganda (ztt) Slave To The Bones (ztt) Seal Unplugged / Sound (ztt) seal - fly like an eagle (ztt) 808 State in Europe (ztt) Middle age hits TCH?? (ztt) Who do you listen to?? Re: (ztt) Middle age hits TCH?? RE: (ztt) Who do you listen to?? Re: (ztt) Who do you listen to?? (ztt) Who do you listen to?? Re: (ztt) Who do you listen to?? Re: (ztt) Who do you listen to?? See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the ztt or ztt-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:09:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: (ztt) Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes > Anyone ever get a track list for this? Check the discography (http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt or email to discogs@swcp.com with the command GET ZTT). - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: KGB Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:10:38 -0800 Subject: (ztt) 808 State - Remixes & Rare 97 (more info) Like everything this is tentative... Remixies and Rare '97 (WPCR-942) 5 remixes & 4 unreleased December 21st Japan: 2000yen. Info courtesy "Comfort" (a small shop in Japan) that gives great service for international mail order at very good prices (no credit cards though). web - http://web.kyoto-inet.or.jp/people/ohkura/ENGLISH.html KGB. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Raymond Koh Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:39:29 +0000 Subject: (ztt) Claudia, where are you? I thought that Claudia had signed to Mute records? I've just been on their website and found no metion of her. Ray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: MIKE_REARDON@HP-Andover-om3.om.hp.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 08:06:32 -0700 Subject: (ztt) Claudia info Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Ray wrote: I thought that Claudia had signed to Mute records? I've just been on their website and found no metion of her. Ray Try "www.mutelibtech.com/mute/artists.htm#Interpop" This site has a small listing for the Brain single. Rumor has it that Propaganda is reforming, but their website "www.propaganda.de" has no information other than "Propaganda is back" Regards; Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Ralph Sanchez, Jr." Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:04:58 +0000 Subject: (ztt) Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes The discography has the following information: Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes [10 Nov 1995?] box set 3xCD: 1995 JP (Warner Japan; WPCR-461/3) [remixes and b-sides] I'd like to know how many (and which) B-sides are included in this 3-CD set. If it's heavy on remixes, without too many B-sides, I probably won't start looking for it. Thanks, # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Adam J Weitzman Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:19:29 -0500 Subject: Re: (ztt) Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes Ralph Sanchez, Jr. wrote: > > The discography has the following information: > > Frankie Goes To Hollywood: The Remixes > [10 Nov 1995?] box set > > 3xCD: 1995 JP (Warner Japan; WPCR-461/3) > [remixes and b-sides] > > I'd like to know how many (and which) B-sides are included in this > 3-CD set. If it's heavy on remixes, without too many B-sides, I > probably won't start looking for it. I would suggest that you not start looking for it, because it was never released. - -- Adam J Weitzman "Getting [your computer] to work is no more Individual, Inc. difficult than building a nuclear reactor weitzman@individual.com from wristwach parts using only your teeth." http://www.individual.com - Dave Barry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Ralph Sanchez, Jr." Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:14:06 +0000 Subject: (ztt) FGTH's appearance on Saturday Night Live Just thought I'd let everyone know that FGTH's appearance on Saturday Night Live will be rerun 18 November, on Comedy Central. - -rs # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Wasiel@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:02:40 -0500 Subject: (ztt) david sylvian on propaganda I found this on alt.music.sylvian the other day. Sylvain can be heard on "P: Machinery" announcing "Propaganda!" after the opening "power, force. motion, drive..." sequence. He also contributed some keyboards to the track. Missed the guys email address though. It was recent so it might still be there and someone could ask him how he knows this. mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Joerg Fitzner" Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:44:41 +0000 Subject: (ztt) Slave To The Bones Hello! I have a question about matrix numbers of your 12 IS 206 records! But hear the story first... Last week I got one of the strangest ZTT records since a long time. It was a UK-12" of 'Jones The Rhythm'. The record came in that grey, sparkled ZTT company-sleeve you might know. The labels look exactly like those of the corresponding UK-12" for 'Slave To The Rhythm', except that they are printed completely in b/w (whilst the STTR labels have a bit color on it) - and except that it correctly [surprise] lists 'Jones The Rhythm' on the A-side and "Slave To The Rhythm" and "Annihilated Rhythm" on the B-side. That's all what's different... so the catalog number is the same: 12 IS 206! For comparison: The STTR-12" had STTR (Blooded) on the A-side and Junkyard plus Annihilated Rhythm on the B-side (despite being labeled to contain Jones The Rhythm here). So I took a look at the actual matrix numbers (obviously a must when dealing with ZTT): JTR turned out to have A-5U and B-5U; STTR had A-3U and B-1U. But - with my ZTTish paranoia - this raises the question, if there are more different versions existing. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER MATRIX NUMBER? Or a different combination of A/B matrixes? (I mean only for the UK release.) Or is it all A-3U/B-1U? Here's a round-up of what I have: 12": 1985 UK (ZTT/Island: 12 IS 206 {A-3U}{B-1U}) [ps; colorful labels] A: 8.26 Slave To The Rhythm (Blooded) B: 5.17 Junkyard }{'Jones The Rhythm'} 3.37 Annihilated Rhythm } 12": 1985 UK (ZTT/Island: 12 IS 206 {A-5U}{B-5U}) [company-sl; b/w labels] A: 6.13 0.43 [album intro-speech] 5.30 Jones The Rhythm [(Long Version)] B: 8.26 Slave To The Rhythm [(Blooded)] 3.37 Annihilated Rhythm Thanx Joerg P.S.: For the matrix numbers I've cut off all the suffixes (like '-1-1-1') here. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Joerg Fitzner" Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:19:36 +0000 Subject: (ztt) Seal Unplugged / Sound Yesterday, I accidentally zapped into a Seal Unplugged on MTV Europe (missing the first 15 minutes). They were playing a great version of Future Love Paradise at that moment. I thought to myself: Well, the sound is really good! I thought it was much better than all of those recent Trevor Horn productions - like Tina Turner or Rod Stewart (not to talk about Cher). Even Seal's last album seemed a bit flat, compared to this performance. (I mean the sound technically - not the unplugged interpretation.) Of course it's a bit tricky to judge this thru TV, but I am sure I'd also like the sound from this Unplugged more, if I could compare it directly from CD. So guess my surprise, when I read in the end credits of the show: "Re-mixed by Trevor Horn"! Hope he's mixing the next Seal album as well! Just a thought Joerg P.S.: The band included such names like Chris Bruce, Jamie Muhoberac, Jon Hassell, Jill Sinclair (! - in the string section), ... Neither Wendy nor Lisa, though. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: mark wasiel Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:22:27 -0800 Subject: (ztt) seal - fly like an eagle Here's the info on the Seal track on the Space Jam soundtrack. Seal - Fly Like An Eagle Produced by Seal Engineering and Mixing by Tim Weidner Additional Production by Rashad Smith Guitar: Nile Rodgers and Seal (c) 1996 ZTT The song is about 5 minutes. I didn't get the time because I was listening to it at Blockbuster music (those guys will let you listen to anything!). I think this track is really good. Good production and sound. The track does contain samples from the original tune by the Steve Miller Band in the background. Also, near the end of the song, Seal quotes part of Crazy "In this world full of people only some get to fly..." (is that the right lyrics? I'm receiting from memory). Other than this track the soundtrack is REALLY horrible. A definite low-point is Chris Rock and Barry White doing a remake of Basketball Jones--an old Cheech & Chong song. mark p.s. single should be released soon as the track is getting a lot of airplay (at least in Los Angeles). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Markus Arnold Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:51:19 +0100 (MET) Subject: (ztt) 808 State in Europe 808 State have announced the following tour dates for november/december: fri 22nd berlin sat 23rd hamburg sun 24th koln (live music hall) mon 25th offenbach (near frankfurt) tue 26th munich wed 27th prague fri 29th neuchatel (case au chocs) sat 30th berne (reitschule) sun 1st winterthur (dynamo) tue 3rd milan thu 5th opwicjk (i think this should be 'opwijk' which would be in belgium) fri 6th amsterdam (paradiso) Any additional info on the exact concert locations would be appreciated. Markus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Ray Koh Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:31:44 +0000 Subject: (ztt) Middle age hits TCH?? I think Joerg called the latest TCH productions "flat". I would agree to an extent, but there are a few gems, like "Whatever you want" and "Dancing in your dreams". A sign of production prodigy becoming mature, perhaps, with a resultant loss of energy, innovation, and guts (compare recent Seal to early AON, Mclaren, Dr. Mabuse)????? Ray # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: MIKE_REARDON@HP-Andover-om3.om.hp.com Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 08:31:03 -0700 Subject: (ztt) Who do you listen to?? Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Hello everyone; I would like to start a thread relating to your favorite CD's of all time. We all share an interest in ZTT, but unfortunately they do not produce enough music to keep me happy. I am currently at a period in time where I can't seem to find any new bands that excite me to the level that I was used to when I first heard Propaganda, Act, etc. I am hoping to get people's input regarding their favorites, so that I can find some bands that I haven't heard yet. So; my favorite 10 CD's: 1) Act - Laughter, Tears & Rage 2) Claudia Brucken - Love and a Million Other Things 3) Seal - self titled (the first one) 4) Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Welcome to the Pleasuredome 5) Deep Forest - Boheme 6) The Blow Monkeys - Animal Magic 7) Erasure - The Innocents 8) Chucklehead - Big Wet Kiss 9) The Beautiful South - Welcome to 10) Happyhead - Give Happyhead Thanks; Mike Reardon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Joerg Fitzner" Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:52:28 +0000 Subject: Re: (ztt) Middle age hits TCH?? On Nov 20, 7:31pm, Ray Koh wrote: > Subject: (ztt) Middle age hits TCH?? > I think Joerg called the latest TCH productions "flat". I would agree to > an extent, but there are a few gems, like "Whatever you want" and > "Dancing in your dreams". That's true. Also "Do Something" (B-side from "On Silent Wings") is really good, IMHO. But even those new 'gems' can't be compared to such brilliant music of genius, which he produced back in the early times. This isn't meant as reproach, it's just a subjective realization. (Also, 'flat' didn't only apply to some of the songs in general, but supposedly particularly to the (technical) mixing - in contrast to the mixing of Seal's Unplugged.) > A sign of production prodigy becoming mature, > perhaps, with a resultant loss of energy, innovation, and guts (compare > recent Seal to early AON, Mclaren, Dr. Mabuse)????? Yeah, you can hardly find that kind of musical aggressivity and innovativity (sometimes playful, mostly perfected) in todays work of him anymore. But I can't imagine the reason to be the growing age itself - at least not only. I think it's got to be a matter of motivation in the first degree. Someone once wrote that he read a quote from Trevor Horn saying something like, he'd rather like working with (reputated) professional musicians in order to instantly get good results, instead of wasting his time teaching others to do what he wants; as his own (life)time is getting shorter. I don't know if that's true - but if it is, I find it rather sad. It losses a lot of creativity. Also, I think it's short-sighted. I mean, what's better: Spending one year making ten mediocre records, or spending one year making the record of the year?! I wish he'd read this Joerg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: kahlil Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:27:54 -0800 Subject: RE: (ztt) Who do you listen to?? I'll play this game. Unfortunately for the list I have very little ZTT entries on my list, but that's more non-ZTT for Mike to explore... In alphabetical order: 01) Duffy "Duffy" 02) Fatima Mansions "Lost in the Former West" 03) KMFDM "XTORT" (an industry unto themselves) 04) Laibach "Let It Be" 05) Matt Bianco "Samba In Your Casa" 06) Ministry "Psalm 69" 07) Orbital "Orbital 2" (aka The Brown Album) 08) Pizzicato Five "Bossa Nova 2001" (also an industry unto themselves if you can handle the Japanese import prices!) 09) Squirrel Nut Zippers "The Inevitable". "Hot" is also terrific. (this band is as fresh and welcome as ZTT was back in the beginning). 10) James Taylor Quartet "Living Underground" (and everything else they've ever done!). 11) Yello "Zebra" (couldn't pick just 10, Sorry!) Timeless sounding classics that everyone is familiar with, these just don't sound old even 10+ years later: 01) Men Without Hats "Rhythm of Youth" 02) Reflex "Politics of Dancing" 03) David Sylvian "Gone To Earth" (cd is missing a few tracks) 04) The The "Soul Mining" 05) Yello "Claro Que Si" And finally, the singles that'll never die (like most do after a few years): 01) Frankie Goes To Hollywood "Two Tribes" (every version) 02) Future Sound Of London "My Kingdom" (instant classic) 03) Grid "Swamp Thing" (Southern Comfort Mix) 04) Orbital "The Box" (I'd rank this #1) 05) Seal "Acoustic ep" (all 6 tracks should be included from the session - - brilliant!). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Blake Heinzeroth Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:07:54 -0600 Subject: Re: (ztt) Who do you listen to?? At 08:31 AM 11/21/96 -0700, you wrote: >Item Subject: cc:Mail Text > Hello everyone; > > I would like to start a thread relating to your favorite CD's of all > time. We all share an interest in ZTT, but unfortunately they do not > produce enough music to keep me happy. I am currently at a period in > time where I can't seem to find any new bands that excite me to the > level that I was used to when I first heard Propaganda, Act, etc. > > I am hoping to get people's input regarding their favorites, so that I > can find some bands that I haven't heard yet. Many of my top fav's are ZTT artists, so let me get them out of the way first: 1. Propaganda - A Secret Wish 2. Claudia Brucken - Love: And A Million Other Things 3. Frankie - Bang! 4. Soundtrack from the movie "Toys" 5. Art Of Noise - Best Of [Art Works 12"] Here are my top 10 Non-ZTT artists/releases (in no order): 1. Cabaret Voltaire - Code 2. Single Gun Theory - Like Stars In My Hands 3. Boxcar - Vertigo 4. ABC - The Remix Collection 5. Anything Box - Peace 6. Yello - Flag 7. Nitzer Ebb - Belief 8. Information Society - Hack 9. Yazoo - You And Me Both 10. Alison Moyet - Hoodoo There are of course many, MANY others that deserve a mention, but you only asked for 10 :) - -- Blake blakeh@ix.netcom.com - -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:31:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: (ztt) Who do you listen to?? > I am hoping to get people's input regarding their favorites, so that I > can find some bands that I haven't heard yet. Here's my top ten ... THIS week: Pet Shop Boys: Bilingual NWA: Straight Outta Compton Jean-Michel Jarre: The Concerts In China The KLF: Chill Out Underworld: Second Toughest In The Infants Rose Royce/Various: Car Wash - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack Isaac Hayes: Hot Buttered Soul Erasure: Erasure The Orb: Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld k.d. lang: Shadowland - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Dave Cowen Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:53:47 -0600 Subject: Re: (ztt) Who do you listen to?? At 11:31 PM 11/21/96 -0700, you wrote: >> I am hoping to get people's input regarding their favorites, so that I >> can find some bands that I haven't heard yet. > >Here's my top ten ... THIS week: > >::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) Oh boy... if _Lazlo's_ going this off-topic, I'm joining the fray. All-time: 1. Music in Fifths/Music in Similar Motion LP / Philip Glass 2. These Things Happen / David Van Tiegham 3. Who's Afraid? / Art of Noise 4. ISDN / The Future Sound of London 5. Music for 18 Musicians / Steve Reich 6. Remain in Light / Talking Heads 7. 777 / System 7 ("The Green Album") 8. Zoolook / Jean-Michel Jarre 9. Chill Out / The KLF 10. Pet Sounds / The Beach Boys This week: 1. Bellissima! / Pizzicato Five 2. Jacob's Optical Stairway / Self-titled 3. The Future Sound of Jazz / Compilation 4. Sushi 3003 / Compilation 5. Constructive Destruction / The Flying Luttenbachers 6. Pop Muzik: The Very Best of / M (Robin Scott) 7. 3 a.m. Eternal Pure Trance Remixes KLF005R / The KLF 8. Shimmering, Warm and Bright / Bel Canto 9. Girl/Boy EP / Aphex Twin 10. Arbitary Music / David Eschatfische & Myke Weiskopf signed: ESCHATFISCHE, david h t t p : / /w w w . f i s c h e . c o m (esch@fische.com) - ------------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Lucas dos Santos" Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:03:44 -0000 Subject: Re: (ztt) Who do you listen to?? > I am hoping to get people's input regarding their favorites, so that > can find some bands that I haven't heard yet. More to add to the fire ZTT all time favourites 1. Propaganda - P-Machinery (beta wrap-around) 2. FGTH - Welcome to the pleasure dome (really alterered) 3. Art Of Noise - Moments in Love (beaten) 4. Propaganda - Dr. Mabuse (9th life DJ) 5. Propaganda - Jewel (cut rough) 6. FGTH - Warriors (return+end) 7. FGTH - Watching the wild life (bit 3 bit 4) 8. Art Of Noise - Peter Gunn 9. FGTH - Lunar bay : WHY THE HELL DID THEY NOT MAKE A 12" FOR THIS ONE ? 10. ...and the rest for the best to come ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of ztt Digest V2 #8 *********************** To subscribe to ztt Digest, send the command: subscribe ztt-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-ztt": subscribe ztt-digest local-ztt@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "ztt-digest" in the commands above with "ztt". 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