From: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com (ztt-digest) To: ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ztt-digest V2 #19 Reply-To: ztt-digest Sender: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes ztt-digest Sunday, February 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 019 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:21:28 -0800 From: "Mark Wasiel" Subject: Re: (ztt) All Saints >There is a 1/2-lengthy article about this group in the current issue of >Billboard. There is mention of Shaznay Lewis and Melanie Blatt recording >for ZTT in 1994 and 1995 (all singles and no albums, according to the >article). Were these two any good (for those of you who may have heard?)? I'd say they were very average British-flavored R&B. The lead single was very disappointing, Silver Shadow I believe. This is definitely WEA-influenced ZTT, imho. Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:00:10 +0100 (MET) From: Soeren Larsen Subject: (ztt) Switzerland Sampled Hej Zs > >If anyone like it I could easily make some MP3 samples of the disc and you > >could decide for yourself. > > That sounds like a good idea to me! OK. Try www.kom.auc.dk/~sorenl/s-ep.zip Archive of all four tracks as MP3 samples only. 2 Mb of size. Use it to expand your ZTT knowledge. enjoy ... || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| || | | || sorenl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 08:54:04 -0800 From: Geoff Davies Subject: Re: (ztt) All Saints >I'd say they were very average British-flavored R&B. The lead single was >very disappointing, Silver Shadow I believe. This is definitely >WEA-influenced ZTT, imho. They are also featured in Q magazine under the section "their time has come" (or something similar). In the article they say that they faced every problem a band could hit including "a bad record label". I found that quite amusing. Geoff. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:05:49 +0100 (MET) From: Joerg Fitzner Subject: Re: (ztt) All Saints > >I'd say they were very average British-flavored R&B. The lead single was > >very disappointing, Silver Shadow I believe. This is definitely > >WEA-influenced ZTT, imho. > > They are also featured in Q magazine under the section "their time has > come" (or something similar). In the article they say that they faced > every problem a band could hit including "a bad record label". I found > that quite amusing. I've seen that "Let's Get Started" (a ZTT-era track of them) allegedly has just been released in Japan. Strange, isn't it? - -Joerg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:28:42 -0500 From: rsystem2@juno.com (Jeff A Hamilton) Subject: Re: (ztt) All Saints On Thu, 05 Feb 1998 08:54:04 -0800 Geoff Davies writes: >>> They are also featured in Q magazine under the section "their time has come" (or something similar). In the article they say that they faced every problem a band could hit including "a bad record label". I found that quite amusing. <<< It seems that they didn't necessarily have a "bad record label", but rather "no talent", judging by the descriptions and opinions I've heard. BTW in Warner Bros. Grammy nominations ad in the current issue of Billboard, ZTT is listed with a dozen other Warner Bros. imprints. Exactly when did the two split up? Jeff Hamilton, the Capitalist P.O.Box 550501, Northside Finance Unit, Atlanta, Georgia 30355-3001 United Bloody States of America 770-621-5777 or 202-466-1631 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:34:12 +0100 (MET) From: Joerg Fitzner Subject: Re: (ztt) Gary Langan [was: ...] > >What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about > > There's not much I've been able to find. > [...] > If you look up Art Of Noise on Lycos or Yahoo you will find a Trevor > Horn worship page. On that page is a link to (I think) ASCAP's website. > He is listed as a member with a short bio. > Sorry I can't be more specific. > > James Scott Coward > artisan2@tulsa.oklahoma.net To the names mentioned on Gary Langan's APRS page (which is actually quite a lot), I only have to add: Belouis Some and as engineer with Trevor Horn also Philip Jap, Yes and Dollar. Cheers Joerg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:19:51 -0600 From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan > >What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about Gary produced ABC's (bad) second LP Beauty Stab, the P.I.L. album with "Seattle" and "We Want Your Body" on it and, I think, one of the Mick Jagger solo LPs. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:48:03 +0100 (MET) From: Joerg Fitzner Subject: (ztt) Who's Recognizing The Voice? (Of Gary Langan!) Andy Robinson wrote (was subject 'Stuff ZTT should release...'): > > >> [...] the opening dialog to AON's "Love Beat" between Anne and > > >> (I think) Trevor is left intact. [...] > > > > > >Isn't it Anne and JJ ?? > > > > I don't think it was J.J. but it could have been. Maybe it was Gary or > > Paul.?.. [...] > > Sounds like Paul Morley and Anne Dudley to me - compare Paul's voice on > the Value of Entertainment video... I'm pretty sure it's Gary Langan! (And absolutely sure that it's neither Paul nor Trevor.) However, I'd agree the other person is probably Anne... ;-) Greetings Joerg P.S.: Note that there's a different intro talking on the cassette single ('singlette' to not get shot) version. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:26:24 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan >> What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about > > Gary produced ABC's (bad) second LP Beauty Stab By the sort of weird coincidence that always happens to me, I'm listening to Beauty Stab at this very moment, and had been thinking that it really doesn't deserve the horrible reputation it has. Granted it's not their best, but... - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 1998 15:34:50 -0500 From: guerue@erols.com Subject: Re: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan/Beauty Stab >By the sort of weird coincidence that always happens to me, I'm listening to >Beauty Stab at this very moment, and had been thinking that it really doesn't >deserve the horrible reputation it has. Granted it's not their best, but... > >-- >::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) Not to go too far afield but I have to add my whole hearted agreement to Lazlo's assesment. Although "Stab" is no "Lexicon of Love" it does have its moments, most notably "S.O.S." and "If I ever Thought You'd Be Lonely". Polygram did a great job remastering it this year and, news, this year we will see "How To BE A Millionaire" and "Alphabet City" from Polygram UK as well. - -Dave Richards Editor Lexicon Magazine:New Wave and Beyond PO Box 1734 Wheaton, MD 20915 This message sent courtesy of: PLANET DIRECT http://my.planetdirect.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:56:31 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Daly Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, John Goelzer wrote: > > > >What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about > > Gary produced ABC's (bad) second LP Beauty Stab, the P.I.L. album with > "Seattle" and "We Want Your Body" on it and, I think, one of the Mick > Jagger solo LPs. > That P.I.L. album was called "Happy?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:57:07 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Daly Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > >> What do you know about Gary Langan - he's the one I know least about > > > > Gary produced ABC's (bad) second LP Beauty Stab > > By the sort of weird coincidence that always happens to me, I'm listening to > Beauty Stab at this very moment, and had been thinking that it really doesn't > deserve the horrible reputation it has. Granted it's not their best, but... > It ain't no Lexicon of Love. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:54:39 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan > It ain't no Lexicon of Love. Yeah, but neither is just about anything else by any other band on the face of the planet . . . - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:42:31 +0000 From: Ian Peel Subject: Re: (ztt) All Saints IMHO... All Saints could have been massive on any label apart from ZTT. The people there at the time just had now idea how to handle such an act and I actually felt soprry for them. They had drive and ambition (especially the non-ztt production crew behind them) but were just not understood. The only parallel the folks at ZTT could draw were Eternal, so much for a label building a unique image for a band... I have to say that I dont mind Silver Shadow. It's no more WEA- influenced ZTT pop than Mantra were WEA-influenced ZTT rave and Lorenza was WEA-influenced ZTT soul... Ian Peel - --- ---- > read.me in: 4D - THE TIMES' WEB MAGAZINE (www.4-d.co.uk)... ON MAGAZINE (www.state51.co.uk/on/ianpeel.html)... ROUGH GUIDES (www.roughguides.com/rock/index.html)... and MY BOOK - FUTURE VISIONS (www.compbook.co.uk/promo/netguides/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:55:43 -0800 (PST) From: jmascian@UCSD.Edu (jon masciana) Subject: RE: (ztt) Gary Langan >> It ain't no Lexicon of Love. > >Yeah, but neither is just about anything else by any other band on the face of >the planet . . . > >-- >::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) Understandable but I think the Best of The Art Of Noise and Leftfield's "Leftism" come pretty damn close. Jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 03:20:12 EST From: JohnJrDPD@aol.com Subject: (ztt) 12 ZACT 28 I need a MINT copy of the Absolutely Immune 12" gatefold - does anyone know where I could get one in MINT condition? Thanks... Be seeing you... - - John, Jr. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:59:58 -0500 From: rsystem2@juno.com (Jeff A Hamilton) Subject: (ztt) The WaxTrax collection On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 03:20:25 EST JohnJrDPD@aol.com writes: >>> The Wax Trax box set sold OK, but the label didn't really put a lot of "collector" material on it except for the one track - I don't remember which - that the Ministry guy did vocals on... <<< Yeah - that wasn't a totally good example. It was really a "greatest hits" set for the label. I didn't really like it too much, but still have it anyway for the "collector's value" of it, whatever that may be. I'm currently remixing "Close To the Edit" to suit my own tastes - I'll keep everyone updated. Jeff Hamilton, the Capitalist P.O.Box 550501, Northside Finance Unit, Atlanta, Georgia 30355-3001 United Bloody States of America 770-621-5777 or 202-466-1631 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 98 13:17:46 -0500 From: artisan2 Subject: Re: (ztt) Who's Recognizing The Voice? (Of Gary Langan!) The other day, Joerg noted: > Note that there's a different intro talking on the cassette > single ('singlette' to not get shot) version. What are they discussing on that one? ... how about this one to risk assassination by?:..."cassingle." James Scott Coward artisan2@tulsa.oklahoma.net If you don't like it, don't klick on it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 02:06:28 -0500 From: rsystem2@juno.com (Jeff A Hamilton) Subject: Re: (ztt) Gary Langan >>> It ain't no Lexicon of Love. <<< I guess it's about time that I own up to the fact that I had never even heard of Lexicon of Love until I joined this list. Can it (they) really be that good? (Even though no artist on ZTT or any other label will ever match the sheer uniqueness of AoN) Jeff, expecting a million positive responses... _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:11:41 -0800 From: "Mark Wasiel" Subject: (ztt) Top Ten Signs You Are Obsessed With ZTT/TCH Well, I thought I wasn't going to post this, but I changed my mind. I hope no one takes any offence to this. If anyone should it probably should be me since most of them are about me. I hope you find this as entertaining as it was to write it. *Top 10 Signs That You Are Obsessed With ZTT/Trevor Horn* 10. You have dreams about finding that rare ZTT release you've been looking for since 1985. 9. You have dreams in which you find new ZTT releases that don't exist and then get pissed when you wake up and realize your mind has been playing tricks on you. 8. You love the Buggles so much, you've made your own T-Shirt and proudly were in it public places. 7. You listen to the 2nd Buggles album for the 200th time in the hopes that once you become more familiar with the songs on it you will realize how great it really is. 6. You take pride in the fact that instead of memorizing all of the 10 commandments in religious studies you can recite all of the songs and artists that make up ZTT's Action Series. 5. You considered buying Cher's last album just to get the two Trevor Horn produced tracks. 4. You bought Cher's last album just for that reason. 3. You actually tried to track down and read all of the books that Paul Morley listed in the liner notes of FGTH's WTTP LP. 2. After hearing that Trevor & Seal got into fist-a-cuffs and stopped working together, you start thinking that Seal's second album really isn't as good as you used to think it was. And, the number one sign you are obsessed with ZTT and/or Trevor Horn... 1. You actually spend time out of your busy life to make a top ten list of why you are obsessed with ZTT and Trevor Horn instead of studying for an exam. Thanks folks! Trevor, if you're out there, gimme a call. I want to make a documentary about you! Before I get any hate mail, I just want to say for the record that I do like the Buggles and no, I haven't made a Buggles T-shirt. But most of the others are true. Post other signs... I know there must be more! Mark Wasiel http://www.pcmagic.net/markw markw@pcmagic.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:42:11 -0800 (PST) From: mike@hyperreal.org Subject: (ztt) Lexicon of Love (was Re: Gary Langan) Jeff A Hamilton wrote: > I guess it's about time that I own up to the fact that I had never even > heard of Lexicon of Love until I joined this list. > > Can it (they) really be that good? Lexicon of Love is an old album by ABC, produced by Trevor Horn, with Anne Dudley arranging strings and apparently Gary Langan being involved, too. If you watched MTV back in the day, you probably saw the video for "Poison Arrow" from this album at least a dozen times. IMHO it's a good pop album, but really Euro sounding, lightweight and discoey. It ain't no Welcome to the Pleasuredome. ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 16:14:30 -0800 From: "Raymond A. Koh" Subject: Re: (ztt) Lexicon of Love (was Re: Gary Langan) mike@hyperreal.org wrote: > > Jeff A Hamilton wrote: > > I guess it's about time that I own up to the fact that I had never even > > heard of Lexicon of Love until I joined this list. > > > > Can it (they) really be that good? > > Lexicon of Love is an old album by ABC, produced by Trevor Horn, with > Anne Dudley arranging strings and apparently Gary Langan being involved, Not forgetting Master fairlight operator, JJ Jeczalik!! Carrying on the "Where are they now" feature on Gary Langan, I believe he also mixed Propaganda's "1234" album. I've also seen a few other minor credits for the elusive Gary on other British pop groups (can't remember their names but they would be 80's sounding). Raymondus BTW There is a remix of Copacabana coming out in the UK on Monday. Is this the Trevor Horn remix as mentioned on Joerg discog? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 03:21:10 EST From: JohnJrDPD@aol.com Subject: (ztt) 12 ZACT 28/Two Tribes (Intermission) GER CD5 12 ZACT 28 - 12" gatefold - Ok so it's Absolutely Immune but the catalog number was right - I take it that no one knows where you might be able to get one? Can anyone still supply the German CD5 of Two Tribes (Intermission Mixes)? Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ End of ztt-digest V2 #19 ************************