From: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com (ztt-digest) To: ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ztt-digest V2 #99 Reply-To: ztt-digest Sender: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes ztt-digest Wednesday, April 14 1999 Volume 02 : Number 099 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:45:36 -0400 From: David Crouch Subject: (ztt) re: The Delivery of Claude Debussy Patient fans, The U.S. promo release has 12 tracks in a slightly different order: The Seduction Of Claude Debussy (U3P-1445) 1. il pleure [at the turn of the century] 2. born on a sunday 3. dreaming in colour 4. on being blue 5. rapt: in the evening air 6. metaforce 7. the holy egoism of genius 8. la flute de pan 9. out of this world [version 138] 10. metaphor on the floor 11. approximate mood swing no:2 12. pause The sleeved is stickered with a "new style" mask with a 3 dot mouth. It like there are THREE promo releases out there! They're at it again... Dave "Seduced on a Saturday" http://www.erols.com/dcrouch/aon.htm P.S. see some updates at http://www.theartofnoise.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:23:13 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (ztt) Re: The Delivery of Claude Debussy > The U.S. promo release has 12 tracks in a slightly different order: > > The Seduction Of Claude Debussy (U3P-1445) [...] > It like there are THREE promo releases out there! Are the differences in the promos simply track titles and running order? Or are there different mixes involved? I recall someone mentioning AoN releasing a series of remixes of the album and wonder if these are samples of such, or just worth picking up instead of paying twice for the album. - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:12:35 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (ztt) Rage Hard Box Question On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:37:31PM -0700, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > After thirteen years of looking, I've finally been lucky enough to score a > copy of the Rage Hard box set -- not 12 ZTAX B22 with room for other 12"s but > the real deal, "The Total". I got asked what the difference was between "The Total" and 12 ZTAX B22, so: "The Total" is a 12"x12" presentation box, with a separate cover (with the artwork) and tray (with space for the singles) -- like the "Kiss Like Ether" or "Only One Word" boxes, or a 12" version of the "Power Of Love" Christmas box if that helps. I know the discog lists it as ZTAB 22 but my copy doesn't have a catalog number printed on it anywhere -- maybe there was a sticker? Looks like someone peeled one off in the space between "The Total" and the band picture on the right-hand side, but it might have just been a price sticker. If the box was really sold empty or with only some of the singles it would almost have to have had a sticker on the front explaining that fact because it lists six catalog numbers on the front, kind of implying that they're inside. I'll try to scan this thing soon. My knowledge of 12 ZTAX B22 is mostly speculation. I remember that when Rage Hard first came out one local shop had a version that was basically the 12" (I *think* 12 ZTAX 22 but I might be mistaken) in a slightly thicker "collectors" sleeve that left room to insert a few more 12"s. Not a gatefold or a box per se, more like, ummm, maybe the third Erasure "Circus" 12". When someone submitted the info on 12 ZTAX B22 I just assumed (booo! :-) that was it. But it's been well over ten years now... Does that jibe with what everyone else knows about these releases? Boy, this really makes it easy to understand them changing the UK chart rules... - -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:18:57 PDT From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (ztt) Art of Noise promos Anyone have a copy of "Seduction" that they want to sell ? Did anyone participate in the AON chat a few weeks ago ? What was discussed ? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:55:14 +0100 From: Simon Daw Subject: Re: (ztt) Rage Hard Box Question My box still has the sticker intact. It says: 12 ZTAX 22 peel-off sticker in purple/brown letters on a white background. If I cast my mind back to 1986 when all this stuff came out, the box only contained 12 ZTAX 22. The idea was to fill it up with all the other releases listed on the box to make "the total". This of course omits the ZTAX 22 "Stamped" version 7" which came out after. I expect most people stored all the releases in the box and they were later sold as "complete". The only reference that I have seen to a complete set with a catalogue number is ZTAB 22 in the Record Collector discography. I don't ever remember seeing this for sale when it was originally released. This wouldn't be the first time that there's been an error in a RC discography! Hope this helps... Simon In message <19990411191235.A10160@swcp.com>, Lazlo Nibble writes > >On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:37:31PM -0700, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > >> After thirteen years of looking, I've finally been lucky enough to score a >> copy of the Rage Hard box set -- not 12 ZTAX B22 with room for other 12"s but >> the real deal, "The Total". > >I got asked what the difference was between "The Total" and 12 ZTAX B22, so: > >"The Total" is a 12"x12" presentation box, with a separate cover (with the >artwork) and tray (with space for the singles) -- like the "Kiss Like Ether" >or "Only One Word" boxes, or a 12" version of the "Power Of Love" Christmas >box if that helps. I know the discog lists it as ZTAB 22 but my copy doesn't >have a catalog number printed on it anywhere -- maybe there was a sticker? >Looks like someone peeled one off in the space between "The Total" and the >band picture on the right-hand side, but it might have just been a price >sticker. If the box was really sold empty or with only some of the singles it >would almost have to have had a sticker on the front explaining that fact >because it lists six catalog numbers on the front, kind of implying that >they're inside. I'll try to scan this thing soon. > >My knowledge of 12 ZTAX B22 is mostly speculation. I remember that when Rage >Hard first came out one local shop had a version that was basically the 12" (I >*think* 12 ZTAX 22 but I might be mistaken) in a slightly thicker "collectors" >sleeve that left room to insert a few more 12"s. Not a gatefold or a box per >se, more like, ummm, maybe the third Erasure "Circus" 12". When someone >submitted the info on 12 ZTAX B22 I just assumed (booo! :-) that was it. >But it's been well over ten years now... > >Does that jibe with what everyone else knows about these releases? Boy, this >really makes it easy to understand them changing the UK chart rules... > - -- Simon Daw simon_ztt@esteem.demon.co.uk http://www.esteem.demon.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:32:42 +0200 From: FGTHFC@t-online.de (FGTH Fan Base) Subject: Re: (ztt) Rage Hard Box Question I do not have that sticker on my box-set but I also remember that I bought the box with the 12 ZTAX22 inside. So I think it was originally sold only with that 12 ZTAX22 remix. Peter...xx http://eurogay.net/mitglieder/holly Lazlo Nibble schrieb: > > On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:37:31PM -0700, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > > After thirteen years of looking, I've finally been lucky enough to score a > > copy of the Rage Hard box set -- not 12 ZTAX B22 with room for other 12"s > but > > the real deal, "The Total". > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:43:55 +0000 From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (ztt) Rage Hard Box Question Simon Daw wrote: > > My box still has the sticker intact. It says: > > 12 ZTAX 22 > peel-off sticker > > in purple/brown letters on a white background. > > If I cast my mind back to 1986 when all this stuff came out, the box > only contained 12 ZTAX 22. The idea was to fill it up with all the > other releases listed on the box to make "the total". This of course > omits the ZTAX 22 "Stamped" version 7" which came out after. exactly the same here. I have no recollection of a ZTAB ever existing, so unless proved otherwise, I'd put this one down to Record Collector's over enthusiasm. - - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:40:15 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (ztt) Re: AoN Sampled In a message dated 4/14/99 11:17:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, croc@wolflink.net writes: > I know there are a lot more. I *think* Art of Noise are the third most > sampled artist of all time after James Brown and Kraftwerk.. On the usenet there used to be a huge guide of all the samples used in songs and where they came from. Thing was in, like, 13 parts. I've just searched everywhere and can't find it any more. It was pretty exhaustive, listed the exact sample, what track it appeared in, where the sample originated, etc. i don't know if it would list something like a sample from another song, tho. - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ End of ztt-digest V2 #99 ************************