From: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com (ztt-digest) To: ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ztt-digest V2 #128 Reply-To: ztt-digest Sender: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes ztt-digest Monday, August 9 1999 Volume 02 : Number 128 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:08:14 -0700 From: jon Subject: (ztt) Art of noise/seal for sale Hi, I have the following ZTT/Art of noise related items for sale up on ebay, email me with any questions. I also have a few of the latest Seal promos (lost my faith remix, human beeinngs), which aren't on on Ebay, but if you're interested, let me know i have several copies for trade/sale (preferred trade.) thanks for looking, jon http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=137874778 Art of noise: Moments in Love UK cd single http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=137890787 Art of Noise/orb/youth: Art of Love UK 12" http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=138810192 Propaganda: P:Machinery (polish) UK 12" http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=138811075 Art of Noise: Metaforce US promo 2x12" http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=139246262 ART OF NOISE: Debussy LITHOGRAM (SIGNED) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140719329 art of silence.co.uk (JJ from the art of noise) UK OOP CD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:14:55 +0100 (BST) From: Martin L Poulter Subject: Re: (ztt) Art of noise TSoCD promo Esprit (www.eil.com) have the 12-track promo of TSoCD at sixteen pounds (1 pound= 1.6USD). - -- MARTIN L: Postgrad. researching philosophy of belief and Bayesian inductive M POULTER : logic at Bristol Uni., UK. * Avoid b/width-wasting blank space! * c Cult Concern FAQ + Soppy Compliments Page + Celibate FAQ + Gifts from "Bob" Q Helena Kobrin Page + Scientology Criticism: http://mail.bris.ac.uk/~plmlp/ ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 23:29:43 -0500 From: artisan2 Subject: Re: (ztt) WTB: artofsilence.co.uk mike@hyperreal.org wrote: > Can someone point me to someplace where I can buy the artofsilence.co.uk > CD? Thanks > > - Mike I'm afraid that there is no place currently stocking the album "artofsilence.co.uk" anymore. I contacted JJ a few months ago and he stated that he has exited the music biz entirely. He claims he is now "happy selling futures". But he was quick to point out the, then pending, AON album "The Seduction of Claude Debussey". So much for me getting my hands on that last artofsilence single "Teach Me". I find it interesting that so many people on here and abroad claimed to dislike artofsilence.co.uk's sound, yet, appreciate Seduction. The two sound very much alike considering that they both employ various current club music styles. House music is very prevalent in both of them. In my opinion, the core music of both albums are very similar. The major differences are more piano work and more of those little added background/accent noises from Anne and Trevor. Personally, I love both albums. But, JJ got there first... - -- James S. Coward artisan2@oklahoma.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Due to the internal organisation of the musical work, the act of listening to it immobilizes passing time: it catches and unfolds it as one catches and enfolds a cloth flapping in the wind. It follows that by listening to music, and while we are listening to it, we enter a kind of immortality" - The Art Of Noise # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 00:12:34 -0500 From: artisan2 Subject: Re: (ztt) Two questions about AoN's TSoCB "Hendrickx, Margaretha" wrote: > Why John Hurt? > > "1984?" "Love and Death on Long Island"? > > Why "metaphor on the floor" (10)? Why "the floor"? > > Is it the "Disco floor (to dance and act out AoN as a metaphor)?" Or, is > the floor in a literal meaning? to be trampled and walked over? Or, is > there still another explanation? > > Cheers * Maggie So far only one answer has gotten close to the original meaning. However, nobody has nailed it on the head. "Metaphor on the floor" is a pun on the American term 4 on the floor. This is an automotive reference. It got it's start in the 50's and was popularized in the 60's by ads for such cars as the Oldsmobile Cutlass 442. It is referencing a 4 speed manual transmission shifter located on the floorboard of the car as opposed to a column shifter. A floor shifter is preferable since there are fewer connective mechanics to the transmission, this way. And shifting gears this way is a much more natural, fluid motion. I don't even like automatic transmissions that shift on the column. All the more reason why I miss my Cutlass. Any way, as cars through the 60's grew faster and more powerful "4 on the floor" became synonymous with the performance rather than the feature. Rock and roll musicians adopted the phrase to indicate songs where the kick drum is struck on all four beats of 4/4 time signature. It creates a greater punch to the sound of any song. Disco, new wave and techno music are the most notorious of the genres for relying, heavily, on the 4 on the floor beat. The irony is that the beat of "Metaphor on the Floor" isn't quite your stock 4 on the floor beat. One of the upsides to drum & bass. I can only assume that exposure to Californian logic and culture, at Sarm West Studio Los Angeles, has infected and corrupted Trevor and company to be aware of street racing terms. I, now, have an odd image of their next album alluding to centerline wheels, 4 wheel anti-lock disc brakes and smog pumps. God I hope not. As for the person answering with getting down on all fours, it would seem you have some personal issues to be addressed. Seek help or seek out a lover who experiments a bit... your choice. ;-> Just kidding. - -- James S. Coward artisan2@oklahoma.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Due to the internal organisation of the musical work, the act of listening to it immobilizes passing time: it catches and unfolds it as one catches and enfolds a cloth flapping in the wind. It follows that by listening to music, and while we are listening to it, we enter a kind of immortality" - The Art Of Noise # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 13:47:43 PDT From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (ztt) AON videos Lately, I said that I won't be able to make copies of my AON footage anymore. Well, I don't want to leave anyone hanging, so I will give you the e-mail address of the original trader who I bought the tapes from. Last time I checked, his address was : ronkane@eathlink.net I would PLEASE ask that you DON'T flood him becuase I'm not sure if he would want me to give out his address to everyone or not, but I feel that it would be unfair to leave you guys out on some lost AON treasure. NOTE : He charges roughly $20 for each tape. His prices are higher than mine becuase his dubbing machine is of superb quality. He might charge more for shipping; I'm not sure. Also, be sure to ask him about foreign conversions because I'm not sure if he performs these either. He has everything that I have EXCEPT for the "Art of Love" video. I personally received that tape from the guys at China and Sire. He just doesn't deal in Art of Noise either; if you're interested in any other artists, just ask. I think he has something like 60,000 videos in his collection. He also buys a lot of Japanese imports. He is a great guy; a true God send. So, there you have it. I probably should have told you guys earlier, but I wasn't really thinking about it until now. Love you all, NoiseWerker _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. 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