From: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com (ztt-digest) To: ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ztt-digest V2 #130 Reply-To: ztt-digest Sender: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes ztt-digest Thursday, August 19 1999 Volume 02 : Number 130 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:28:12 +0100 From: "John McCormick" Subject: (ztt) Zang essays Dear ztters, If you're new to the ZTT label and would like to learn more, or perhaps you just would like to read my views on the label then please visit http://www.johnmccormick.cwc.net and follow the links from the 'Home' page. All is explained on these pages (3 pages of text). The text is an adaptation of a series of essays I did at Uni in the early half of last year. Happy reading, John M. - -- // Northamptonshire, ENGLAND. * \\ \\ Please visit my web pages at: (from 15/8/99) // // http://www.johnmccormick.cwc.net * \\ \\ and also still available at: (now) // // http://members.tripod.com/~jmccormick * \\ \\ - * - * // # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:05:52 +0200 From: Coen van der Geest Subject: (ztt) Custom CD question Hi there, as the rest of this list, I also got the Custom CD ("An extra pulse of beauty"). I must say it looks perfect and the sound is great (Beatbox rulez). I noticed on my CD and back the same number, number 544. Do others have the same or an other number? Grtz Coen PS: the ZTT logo at the spine of the CD of The Seduction Of... is not right, the last T is split and there's half a Z in the place of the other half. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:38:34 +0200 From: Coen van der Geest Subject: (ztt) Where is Trev located nowadays? Hi there, considering the release of the last Art Of Noise, I was wondering where ZTT and Trevor are located nowadays. ZTT seems very much pointed to the USA market (US radio interviews, concerts, promotion) while us European people (I don't speak for all of us, though) have to order it in the USA. Of course it has much to do with the contract they have with Universal, but will there be a change in favour of us? Grtz Coen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:35:47 -0500 From: artisan2 Subject: Re: (ztt) AoN vs. Lucas vs. Kubrick vs. Groening My apologies for responding to everything so late in the discussions lately. I haven't had occasion to check my e-mail in around a week. I haven't checked e-mail regularly in even longer. Plus, each time I have managed to tear time away for this it's very late at night and my coherency begins to drift, greatly. > The skill is not in doubt. The production values are still > high. The aim, > the goal, the purpose....... why is this seduction > considered an Art of > Noise? > Because they say it is. After all, a toaster is a toaster. And, it's their party; so they'll cry if they want to. Besides, this has been an intended project for AON (really Trevor) since ZTT's overall masterwork "The Raiding of the Twentieth Century" was planned. Too bad they never pulled that one off. I felt this way about "Below the Waste". I used to say they needed to rename themselves the Art of Music. I can only assume that they actually got TSoCD to sound the way they wanted it to. If not, they only have themselves to blame. Nothing sucks worse than to work your ass of on a song, or what have you, only to have it never sound the way you want it to. I'm not surprised by how light weight TSoCD sounds. Drum 'n Bass aside, this is more of how the remaining members of the band tend to think of music. Look at some of the most recent works involving Trevor or Anne at the helm. "Tubular Bells 2"[1992; Trevor Horn & Mike Oldfield producing]: nice and airy; my favorite of the three incarnations of that concept. But, incredibly homogeneous. Not a truly rousing bone in the whole album. "Seal"(the second) [1994; Trevor producing]: Trevor's new production style is really taking form by now. It is the logical progression from "TB2". Very pretty, but again, nothing to pound you into rubble. And an afterthought contribution for that Batman flick a year or two later. "Buster" movie soundtrack [199?; musical score composed and arranged by Anne Dudley]: the first major film she landed. I'm proud of her for that. She finally put her classical training to a more predictable work. Not a hint of AON for miles around. It was as if she were deliberately hiding that fact. Then there was "Groovy Kind of Love" she did for Phil Collins. But, he got the Grammy for it. At least he credited and thanked her as part of his acceptance speech. Incidentally, that was the last time I ever saw JJ and Anne together. "Songs From the Victorious City" [1990 produced/composed/arranged by Anne and Jaz Coleman]: nice idea, but, I'm afraid Led Zeppelin (among others) kind of beat them to the basic idea. Somewhat lively in spots, however, it ultimately comes off as the soundtrack to a James Bond film. Actually, come to think of it, I would really like to hear her handle a Bond movie. With or without a little help from Trevor, I think it would be great. "The Crying Game" [film score composed & produced by Anne Dudley]: Roughly, the same situation as the previous soundtrack. Nice work, but... It was just like if John Lennon, overnight, became a Fundamentalist Conservative and demanded that Yoko stay in the kitchen or something. "The Full Monty" [same thing. composed/produced by Anne]: Really hitting the big time now. She nailed an Academy Award for the soundtrack. I forgot if it was for "Best musical score for a foreign film" or just plain "best musical score". It was one of them; and she looked great. Sorry for the rant. But, considering this, the subject matter for TSoCD and what some of those unearthed AON tracks sounded like prior to being stripped down to the versions we know and love, is it really any surprise that the new work sounds the way it does? - -- James S. Coward artisan2@oklahoma.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Due to the internal organisation of the musical work, the act of listening to it immobilizes passing time: it catches and unfolds it as one catches and enfolds a cloth flapping in the wind. It follows that by listening to music, and while we are listening to it, we enter a kind of immortality" - The Art Of Noise # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ End of ztt-digest V2 #130 *************************