From: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com (ztt-digest) To: ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ztt-digest V2 #131 Reply-To: ztt-digest Sender: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ztt-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes ztt-digest Tuesday, August 24 1999 Volume 02 : Number 131 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 02:31:07 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Subject: (ztt) ANNE PIGALLE - SOUVENIR D'UN PARIS 12" Hi ! My name is Benoît, I live in Paris & I'm new 2 the list. I'm a big fan of Eurythmics, Rita Mitsouko (http://perso.cybercable.fr/systemed/), Prince, Dead Or Alive, Dead Can Dance, Craig Armstrong, Cocteau Twins, Sparks, EBTG, Yazoo, db, Associates, Underworld (ZTT quality !!!), and lots of other bands. On ZTT, I really love ACT, Propaganda, Anne Pigalle. ACT I've got the CHANCE 12". I heard there might exist a CD single ? so ...Truth or myth ??? ANNE PIGALLE I've got the SOUVENIR D'UN PARIS 12". It's a french pressing from 1985. ZTT / Island 884 315-1 I once saw a 7", but don't own it. Face A SOUVENIR D'UN PARIS (extended version ?) (mix aguicheur) 7'20 Face B SOUVENIR D'UN PARIS (7" version ?) (mix songeur) 3'55 LIKE WE DO 3'26 I think this single is mega rare, Bcause it's not even mentioned in the official ZTT discography !!! It seems it was only issued in France (perhaps also in Japan ?). I heard it first at the DOK nightclub in Amsterdam, back in 1986. Then I search for the 12" for... 10 years !!! YES ! I found it in 1995 !!! So I think it's even more obscure than the ACT Chance's 12', which I bought through Adrian's years ago for £ 45. But it's not really sought after, the main reason being few people know it exist, and ANNE PIGALLE is not as much collected as artists like FGTH or PROPAGANDA. If it was, it would easily reach the £ 100 - £ 150 level, I think, Bcause, one just can't find it !!! It was a total flop in France, so there was very few copies issued. U can imagine, I spent 10 years going to EVERY record convention in France, went 2 "marché aux puces", the french "camden market" every week-end, put ads in Record Collector and so on, and found nothing in 10 years time !!! so, I do think it's absolutely mega-rare ! Have U got an opinion on that ? I just send a scan 2 Guy B Phipps, so he can add it in his fabulous ZTT discography Hope 2 hear your feelings about the rarity of this record Benoît # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:52:30 PDT From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (ztt) (AON) Art of Silence MP3's Hello everyone !!!! Due to the fact that J.J. Jeczalik has retired from the music business and "artofsilence.co.uk" has been out-of-print for a while, I will be making MP3's tonight of the whole album plus the Mantra mix of "Teach Me (this is the short mix from Sasha and Digweed's "Northern Exposure Westcoast Edition" CD)". PLEASE BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT I IN NO WAY AM TRYING TO DO HARM TO J.J. JECZALIK OR HIS COPYRIGHTS BY MAKING THESE SONGS AVAILABLE FOR FREE. I HAVE NOTHING BUT THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR J.J. AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT HE HAS MADE TO THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. However, this album is EXTREMELY HARD TO FIND, if you can even find it at all. It took two years of searching to find my copy ! But there is one catch : I DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT SETTING UP AN FTP SITE ! If anyone would like to give me a tutorial I would really appreciate it. Otherwise, I will have to send the tracks through ICQ (for those of you on the list that have it). I am also considering making MP3's of the Custom CD tracks, but I will only do that for MP3's of rare mixes and singles that I don't have (ex: Close to The Edit (Shep Pettibone's Radio Re-Edit) ; etc.) Please contact me if interested, AND KEEP THIS TO YOURSELF ! The last thing I need is for the people at ZTT and J.J. himself to bludgeon me to death becuase I ripped all of these songs. LOL ;-) Hormonally Yours (LOL), NoiseWerker _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:30:06 PDT From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (ztt) (AON) Art of Silence MP3's Update Okay, now I have finished ripping all of the "artofslience.co.uk" CD as well as the "Teach Me" remix from Sasha and Digweed's "Nothern Exposure 2 (Westcoast Edition)" CD. Still for those of you who are interested, please mail or ICQ me (#42651237). If anyone has MP3 trades or offers for the AON Custom CD tracks, please send those as well; for I will make MP3's of those songs if the demand is high enough. Yours truly, NoiseWerker _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:26:39 -0500 From: Roy DeRousse Subject: Re: (ztt) Rare Propaganda MP3's Thank you, Shane!! A Secret Wish is one of my favorite albums from the '80s. Yes is one of my favorite bands. Steve Howe is listed as playing on the album. I sure ccouldn't hear him! ... until tonight. He is quite prominent on the Polish mix of P-Machinery! What a treat! I like both versions equally, but it sure is nice to hear him playing with Propaganda at last. The other tracks on your site are great too. Thanks again! FlatCracker Software wrote: > I decided to place some rare Propaganda MP3 files on a web page for you to > download. > > Back in 1988 I bought two 3 Inch Propaganda CD singles from Japan at my > local CD Shop for $8.00 a piece. I noticed over the years that people > subscribing to this newsletter have been looking for these discs. (Dr. > Mabuse and P-Machinery) - -- Have fun! Roy DeRousse (relayer@iname.com) St. Louis, Missouri, USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:06:01 -0400 From: Dave Subject: (ztt) Give Us your top ten albums of the '80s! Hi, > Well, Lexicon Magazine is succumbing to that pre-Millennium tension (to coin a > phrase) and will have a "Top Ten Albums" of the '80s in the next issue, > but with a twist. Instead of a boring top ten chosen by committee, we > will feature reader's top tens. > So--- > Send in your top ten albums of the '80s! No real rules, try to keep it > for albums between 1978 and 1990 if you can. If you want to include best > of's that's okay (but I am sure you can come up with better than that!) > And feel free to explain, in a sentence for each album, why you think > each album deserves top ten status. You can rank them or just do them in > no particular order. > Please send me your lists by Sept 30 at the very latest. We will publish > as many as we can, so get crackin! > > Thanks > -Dave Richards > Managing Editor > Lexicon Magazine > PO Box 1734 > Wheaton, MD 20915 http://users.erols.com/guerue/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:56:07 -0500 From: artisan2 Subject: Re: (ztt) Where is Trev located nowadays? Coen van der Geest wrote: > Hi there, > > considering the release of the last Art Of Noise, I was wondering where > ZTT and Trevor are located nowadays. ZTT seems very much pointed to the > USA market (US radio interviews, concerts, promotion) while us European > people (I don't speak for all of us, though) have to order it in the > USA. Of course it has much to do with the contract they have with > Universal, but will there be a change in favour of us? > > Grtz > Coen I would imagine that this US bias that has been occurring lately is partly due to Trev's fascination with rap and various pop culture. I include pop culture as nearly all of his major work seems to be/or is commenting on it. All the way back to the Buggles he's had an objective, 3rd person interest. Living in the Plastic Age is a phrase coined from an old '20s Clara Bow "trash pop" movie. The liner notes to one of the original ZTT AON album variations commented when they try to create something mainstream, it always becomes something unique. If I could find the actual remark I would quote it. Its on a vinyl copy in storage. Sadly, pop culture, an American invention, is what governs most people's concept of social structure. Blah blah blah. Nyah nyah nyah. Etc etc etc. To my knowledge, ZTT and AON still reside in London. I don't even think they have their second office in New York city. However, Sarm West studio is in Los Angeles. I have no idea why Trevor thinks this is a good idea. Oh well. - -- James S. Coward artisan2@oklahoma.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Due to the internal organisation of the musical work, the act of listening to it immobilizes passing time; it catches and unfolds it as one catches and enfolds a cloth flapping in the wind. It follows that by listening to music, and while we are listening to it, we enter a kind of immortality." -The Art Of Noise # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:03:47 +0100 From: "Henrik Lundstrom" Subject: Re: (ztt) Where is Trev located nowadays? t even think > they have their second office in New York city. However, Sarm West studio > is in Los Angeles. I have no idea why Trevor thinks this is a good idea. Oh > well. Sarm West is, and has always been, located in London. Sarm West Coast is the name of the LA studio (or at least it was a year ago). henrik henrik l. - --- henrik@billieraymartin.com http://www.billieraymartin.com - --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:18:25 -0700 From: jon Subject: (ztt) FS: 808 State remix, Art of noise stuff Hi! I have the following items for sale on Ebay, please email me with any questions--thanks for looking! Check out my other synthpop/electronic auctions on EBay, userid: mazbass http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150388435 ZANCE-ZTT UK LP (ART OF NOISE/FGTH/PROPAGANDA/WILLIAM ORBIT) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=152005255 ICEHOUSE/808 STATE/Bill Laswell-2CD REMIXES! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=148481620 ART OF NOISE: Debussy LITHOGRAM (SIGNED) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:57:36 -0500 From: artisan2 Subject: Re: (ztt) Where is Trev located nowadays? Joerg Fitzner wrote: > I guess if I was a multi millionaire I'd like to live in sunny California > as well. > Apart from that, I'd dare to say the center of pop-MUSIC is London, and not > Los Angeles. > Earlier, I wrote (in error to the world): > > [...] However, Sarm West studio is in Los Angeles. > Joerg was quick to the rescue: > No, it's in London (West11). Sarm West Coast might well be in LA. > BTW, I'd say wherever Sarm West is located, that's by definition the > center of pop-music! ;-) All this time, I never noticed the addition of "Coast" to the name. That is the one I was thinking of. And it is in L.A., though, I can't figure why. I would have put it in New York. It's a guaranteed change of scenery, their way. Really, I would be very reluctant to say that Sarm West is the center of pop music. Pop music -like pop culture- is, actually, behind the pace of innovation, fashion, style, and originality. Of course, I have limited respect for pop anything. Consider it this way: nothing can become pop until it is pioneered by someone else. Then, it's badly mimicked and, consequently, run into the ground. Various examples could be brought up apart from ZTT recordings; but, that is an easy way to trip off a flame war. In regards to the discussion, I would say wherever Sarm is located, that's the center of pioneering music. Or the center of the universe. If I were a multi-millionaire, I would live in either Portland, Oregon; New York, NY; or London, England. I, generally, don't like L.A.; as if you couldn't guess that one. - -- James S. Coward artisan2@oklahoma.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Due to the internal organisation of the musical work, the act of listening to it immobilizes passing time; it catches and unfolds it as one catches and enfolds a cloth flapping in the wind. It follows that by listening to music, and while we are listening to it, we enter a kind of immortality." - -The Art Of Noise # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info ztt" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email ztt@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------ End of ztt-digest V2 #131 *************************