From: cliff@pdh.com (Cliff Tuel) Subject: New Anne Dudley album Date: 02 Jan 1996 14:32:44 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# cliff@pdh.com (Cliff Tuel) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I don't remember this getting mentioned -- new Anne Dudley solo album, "Ancient and Modern", (The Echo Label ECHCD3 (England), FAX 011-44-171-792-1299). It was featured just before Christmas on Music From the Hearts of Space. Can someone who's heard it comment on it? - -- Cliff Tuel -- cliff@pdh.com (business ) -- cliff@ablecom.net (pleasure) PDH, Inc. / 2635 N First St, Suite 224 / San Jose, CA 95134-2049 (408) 428-9596 Fax: (408) 428-9599 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JBondy808@aol.com Subject: Looking for... Date: 02 Jan 1996 23:12:19 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# JBondy808@aol.com <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hello all. My name is Jason Bondy. I'm new to this list and a big fan of all things ZTT. Especially 808 State, Propaganda, and Art of Noise. Some other favorites outside ZTT are Lush, Shamen, Moby, Orbital, and Gary Numan. Too many others to list here! Here are a couple things I'm looking for: * 808 State Optical 90 VHS (Must be U.S. NTSC compatible), or laserdisc * Propaganda "Machinery" or "Sorry for Laughing" 12" mixes on CD Thanks to anyone who can help, Jason e-mail: jbondy808@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Cowen Subject: Re: New Anne Dudley album Date: 02 Jan 1996 20:07:53 -0600 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Dave Cowen <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. At 02:32 PM 1/2/96 -0800, you wrote: ><# Replies to this message will go to: ><# cliff@pdh.com (Cliff Tuel) ><# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. ><# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > >I don't remember this getting mentioned -- new Anne Dudley solo album, >"Ancient and Modern", (The Echo Label ECHCD3 (England), FAX >011-44-171-792-1299). It was featured just before Christmas on Music >>From the Hearts of Space. Can someone who's heard it comment on it? I've heard it... it was merely pleasant. Lots of strings, choirs and classical arrangements, very little keyboard or synth. It sounded terribly uninspired to me (and I typically love Dudley's string arrangements), so I chose not to pick it up -- the best I could say for it was that I wouldn't mind studying to it. If you really, really get into Dudley's film score work you'll probably like it, but it's certainly not anything close to her groundbreaking, passionate work for the Art of Noise (or any of the other projects she's done for Trevor Horn or the Pet Shop Boys) -- it's much more dry and restrained. esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) --------------------------------- http://www.fische.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon K Snavely Subject: new subscriber Date: 05 Jan 1996 21:50:15 -0500 (EST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Brandon K Snavely <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hello, I've just subscribed to this list. I've run across Trevor Horn's name many places in my CD collection, and I absolutely love his unique production style. I have heard his influence on Yes, Pet Shop Boys, and Seal albums.....I don't have any other albums that he's produced or been a musician on, but I plan to in the future. Some of you may know me from other mailing lists such as Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, King Crimson, and XTC. Trevor's production work on the PSB's "Left to my Own Devices" and "The Sound of the Atom Splitting", as well as Seal's entire first album, are what got me interested in his sound. Is Trevor a member of this list? Does he have an email address? Thanks for reading this far..... freeze (Brandon Snavely, bksst6+@pitt.edu) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We're flying high, we're watching the world pass us by; Never want to come down, never want to put my feet back down on the ground" -Martin Gore, Depeche Mode ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Administrivia (comix-biz, exotica, klf, orb, ztt) Date: 05 Jan 1996 13:56:35 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Sorry if anyone sees this more than once, but you know the drill... I've recently sorted out the way majordomo handles addresses not actually subscribed to these lists, so you won't be seeing any more "FORWARDED MESSAGE" nonsense. As part of this I've uncovered a cache of older messages that were bounced to me because they were posted from addresses not obviously subscribed to the list; those messages will follow this posting as appropriate. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz) Subject: MC Tunes Date: 06 Jan 1996 19:53:05 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hello everyone. I am looking for the MC Tunes " The Only Rhyme That Bites " cd5. If anyone has this and wants to sell it, please let me know! Thanks for all your help in the past! If anyone needs help finding stuff, maby I can help you. Thanks! Cheers, Josh :) ====================================================================== J. Bortz (bortz@ptd.net) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz) Subject: Seal Snowboards! Date: 06 Jan 1996 21:11:10 -0500 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# bortz@postoffice.ptd.net (J Bortz) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. If you are a fan of Seal, buy the January 96' issue of SKI magazine. They do a four page article on Seal snowboarding, how he got with ZTT, a little about some new songs on the way and how he loves spending time at the hospital for his snowboard accidents! Its a FANTASTIC article!!! Cheers, Josh ====================================================================== J. Bortz (bortz@ptd.net) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: markus@euronet.nl (Markus_Arnold) Subject: 808 State Live Date: 07 Jan 1996 03:12:12 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# markus@euronet.nl (Markus_Arnold) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I have heard a rumour that 808 State will be playing live in Munich, Germany on 2 March! I don't know if this is part of a tour (to promote the new album maybe?) or just a one-off... Any German fans out there who know more details? Cheers Markus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Discography Updated! Date: 06 Jan 1996 20:31:39 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. The latest version of the discog is now up at: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Discographies.html ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/lazlo/discographies/ Email discogs@swcp.com (with command GET ZTT) There have been some minor format tweaks to accommodate automatic HTML conversion in the future. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Browne Subject: Another new subscriber Date: 08 Jan 1996 09:00:00 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Steve Browne <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi all, I've just joined the list. My main interest is FGTH, but other ZTT stuff like AON etc. is still interesting for me. Steve Browne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jez Hall Subject: Peter York's "The Eighties" Date: 09 Jan 1996 09:26:00 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jez Hall <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi Did anyone see Peter Yorks "The Eighties" on BBC2 on Saturday ?? Loads of interviews with popstars of the day, and all the way through was Frankies Pleasuredome soundtrack. I wonder if there will be an interview with Holly later in the series ???? Jez. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sorenl <31sl@but.auc.dk> Subject: 808 remix of Wendell Williams Date: 09 Jan 1996 10:54:40 +0100 (MET) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# sorenl <31sl@but.auc.dk> <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi 808 State fans. Can anybody varify the 808 State remix of Wendell Williams "Everybody" ? I have a 3 track UK promo on DeConstruction without mix-details. Running time? Different releases? Phanks Phellows ._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._. .Elevative Music Appetence Is Lovely._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. .____ ____ _ __ ____ _ ___ __ ___ _ __ ____ ____ _ ___ . .(___ | / | |/ |___| |/ | | ____) |/ (___ |___| |/ |. .____/ |_/_| | |___ | | _|_ |___| | ____/ |___ | |. ._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. ._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._sorenl - Denmark - 31sl@but.auc.dk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jez Hall Subject: FW: Peter York's "The Eighties" Date: 09 Jan 1996 09:57:00 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jez Hall <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jez Hall Subject: Peter York's "The Eighties" Date: 09 Jan 1996 09:26 Hi Did anyone see Peter Yorks "The Eighties" on BBC2 on Saturday ?? Loads of interviews with popstars of the day, and all the way through was Frankies Pleasuredome soundtrack. I wonder if there will be an interview with Holly later in the series ???? Jez. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jez Hall Subject: Peter York's "The Eighties" Date: 09 Jan 1996 11:10:00 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jez Hall <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Did anyone see Peter Yorks "The Eighties" on BBC2 on Saturday ?? Loads of interviews with popstars of the day, and all the way through was Frankies Pleasuredome soundtrack. I wonder if there will be an interview with Holly later in the series ???? Jez. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" Subject: Holly reviewed Date: 09 Jan 1996 14:13:23 +100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hello and happy New Year to everyone! I've seen to Holly appearences on german TV in december: 1. "Angels" on ZDF was a recoding from 1994. Hellen Terry (backround vocals on "legendary children") interviewed several Popstars as Boy George, Holly and others about the image of Angels in Rockmusic. "TPOL" was introduced. Holly said that he does believe in a way in Angels. He imagines himself rising up to heaven and his dog Funky expects him with two little wings upon his bach and his tail wacking. 2. "JAM Special on Aids" on VIVA from 1995. Interview of Jean-Paul Gaultier, Marc Almond, George Michal, Holly Johnson (with close-ups of Funky), etc. Holly appeared just 4 minutes, also he was the only interviewed person who actually aquired HIV. He made some good points ont the topics Aids and Homosexuality. He said for instans that as beeing gay as a popstar you all of a sudden become fodder to tabloid journalism. And that he had to answer questions about his sexuality since the past 10 years, whereas for example Sting or Phil Collins never have to aswer questions about there sexuality. That's it so far. Take care everyone! Till ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jez Hall Subject: Peter York's "The Eighties" Date: 09 Jan 1996 13:46:00 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jez Hall <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. One last try - sorry about this........... Did anyone see Peter Yorks "The Eighties" on BBC2 on Saturday ?? Loads of interviews with popstars of the day, and all the way through was Frankies Pleasuredome soundtrack. I wonder if there will be an interview with Holly later in the series ???? Jez. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" Subject: Re: Holly reviewed II Date: 10 Jan 1996 12:01:09 +100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Sorry, but I was in a big hurry yesterday, so I made a lot of spelling mistakes. Here is an edited Version: Hello and happy New Year to everyone! I've seen two Holly appearences on german TV in december. Here's a brief summery: 1. "Angels" on ZDF was a recording from 1994. Hellen Terry (backround vocals on "legendary children") interviewed several Popstars such as Boy George, Holly and others about the image of Angels in Rockmusic. "TPOL" was introduced. Holly said that he does believe in Angels in a certain way. He imagines himself rising up to heaven and his dog Funky expects him with two little wings upon his back and his tail wacking (cute, isn't it?). 2. "JAM Special on Aids" on VIVA from 1995. Interviews of Jean-Paul Gaultier, Marc Almond, Red Hot Chilly Peppers, Die Doofen, George Michal, Holly > Johnson (with close-ups of Funky), etc. Holly (the only HIV pos. Person on that Interview show) appeared for about 4 minutes. He made some good points about the topics Aids and Homosexuality. He said for instance that beeing gay as a popstar you all of a sudden become fodder for tabloid journalism. He had to answer questions about his sexuality since the past 10 years, whereas for example Sting or Phil Collins never have to answer questions about there sexuality. That's all I heard from Holly so far. Take care everyone! Till ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sy Subject: Trainspotting Date: 11 Jan 1996 14:01:12 +0000 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Sy <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I haven't heard it mentioned, but there are some new TCH pieces on Cher's new album. Didn't get the titles but there are about three or four. (Un)interestingly enough there are some Lipson tracks on there too. Might pick it up soon. What's the availability of Andrew Jap material and Nasty Rox's album? P.S. Don't die. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Trainspotting Date: 11 Jan 1996 15:59:11 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > What's the availability of Andrew Jap material and Nasty Rox's album? I don't know who "Andrew Jap" is; if you mean Andrew Poppy both albums got reissued for the Year Ten anniversary in 1994. Unfortunately NRI's didn't; I've been looking since it came out and I *still* have never found a copy. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Administrivia: Advertising Policy Date: 12 Jan 1996 19:53:55 -0700 (MST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Lazlo Nibble <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. In response to some questions people have posed about my feelings towards advertising on these lists, I've added a short blurb on this issue to the list information file, as follows: * The list is not meant to be used as an advertising forum, though short notices of the form "I have for sale; please email me for a full list" are acceptable as long as the items for sale are directly relevant to the topic of the mailing list. We haven't really had any abuse of any of these lists for advertising purposes, it just seemed appropriate to let everyone know where I stand ahead of time. And of course I reserve the right to call a halt to any behavior I consider inapproriate, whether or not it seems "acceptable" by a letter-for-letter reading of the list info file. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark wasiel Subject: Re: Trainspotting Date: 14 Jan 1996 21:43:44 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# mark wasiel <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Thu, 11 Jan 1996, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# Lazlo Nibble > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > > > What's the availability of Andrew Jap material and Nasty Rox's album? > > I don't know who "Andrew Jap" is; if you mean Andrew Poppy both albums got > reissued for the Year Ten anniversary in 1994. Unfortunately NRI's didn't; > I've been looking since it came out and I *still* have never found a copy. I think he means Philip Jap who Trevor Horn produced a couple tracks for A&M records. It's in Jorge's TCH discography. mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian Ferrell (Exchange)" Subject: RE: Another dumb question Date: 15 Jan 1996 10:29:45 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Ian Ferrell (Exchange)" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. A *long* time ago, I read that Trevor Horn picked the name because it sounded like a drum beat; I believe this "quote" was from an adoring FGTH fan-book ca. 1985. (I've got the book at home, wonderful picture of Holly in Western "Ride Me" gear on the cover, so I'll take a peek tonight for an actual reference.) Given the label's "Everything Manufactured For Your Pleasure" approach to history and how many consistency problems there are with the name in some early AON and FGTH singles (I've seen Zang Tumb Tumb and Zang Tuum Tumb) it's probably made up and not some Morley-derived cultural reference. - - Ian (ianf@microsoft.com) > ---------- > From: anders.hultman@unisource.se[SMTP:anders.hultman@unisource.se] > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 1996 11:48 PM > To: ztt@xmission.com > Subject: Another dumb question > > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# anders.hultman@unisource.se (Anders Hultman) > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to > ztt@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to > majordomo@xmission.com. > > I have since a long time wondered what Zang Tuum Tumb actually means. > Could > anyone answer me or direct me to a FAQ, please? > > anders > ------------------------------ > http://www.algonet.se/~anders/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Romlov" Subject: RE: Another dumb question Date: 15 Jan 1996 22:51:42 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Thomas Romlov" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On 15 Jan 96 A.D. at 10:29, Ian Ferrell (Exchange) conveyed: > A *long* time ago, I read that Trevor Horn picked the name because > it sounded like a drum beat; I believe this "quote" was from an "Quote; FGTH Express2; Zang Tuum Tumb were the words an Italian futurist of the 1800s used to describe the sound of machine gun fire or, depending on the many literary moods of Paul Morley, the sound of pennies dropping on a double bass" Somewhere there is even a reference to who actually said it, but I can't seem to find it now. I'll protect you from the hooded claw, keep the vampires from your door.... Thomas. @-------------------------------------------------@ Thomas Romlov thomas@pi.se Ph/Fax: +46-40-122004 @-------------------------------------------------@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian Ferrell (Exchange)" Subject: RE: Another dumb question Date: 15 Jan 1996 14:44:42 -0800 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Ian Ferrell (Exchange)" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Would this be the same Italian futurist AON attribute their name to? (AON claims Mr. Futurist wrote a book entitled "The Art of Noises". I believe this claim is on an "In Visible Silence"-era single. His purported picture in on the liner notes to "In Visible Silence" and he is also quoted on the sleeve for "Legs" and "Paranoimia" (sans Headroom)? Evidently, he was a real person, though I've never run across any other references to him or his work. (Then again, Seattle is not a hotbed of 19th century Italian futurism...) I've never run across any reference to Mr. Future (can't remember the name, believe it starts with "R") from the ZTT days; all I've seen of him is from the early albums when AON fled to China/Chrysalis and John Pasche started doing their album art direction in faux-Morley style. I'll definitely dig up the FGTH love-fest book tonight and look for refs to Mr. Future. I've asked this before and might as well tag this along: does anyone know what Paul Morley is up to these days? Is he still involved with music/art direction or has he retired to enjoy the profits from recent ZTT reissues/remixes/retreads? Regards, - - ian (ianf@microsoft.com) > ---------- > From: Thomas Romlov[SMTP:thomas@pi.se] > Sent: Monday, January 15, 1996 1:51 PM > To: Ian Ferrell (Exchange) > Cc: ztt@xmission.com; anders.hultman@unisource.se > Subject: RE: Another dumb question > > <# Replies to this message will go to: > <# "Thomas Romlov" > <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to > ztt@xmission.com. > <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to > majordomo@xmission.com. > > On 15 Jan 96 A.D. at 10:29, Ian Ferrell (Exchange) conveyed: > > > A *long* time ago, I read that Trevor Horn picked the name because > > it sounded like a drum beat; I believe this "quote" was from an > > "Quote; FGTH Express2; > > Zang Tuum Tumb were the words an Italian futurist of the 1800s used > to describe the sound of machine gun fire or, depending on the many > literary moods of Paul Morley, the sound of pennies dropping on a > double bass" > > Somewhere there is even a reference to who actually said it, but I > can't seem to find it now. > > I'll protect you from the hooded claw, > keep the vampires from your door.... > > Thomas. > > > > @-------------------------------------------------@ > > Thomas Romlov > thomas@pi.se > Ph/Fax: +46-40-122004 > > @-------------------------------------------------@ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dean Engelhardt Subject: Re: Another dumb question Date: 16 Jan 1996 10:37:39 +1030 (CST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Dean Engelhardt <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. [regarding the name Zang Tuum Tuum]: > > Would this be the same Italian futurist AON attribute their name to? (AON > claims Mr. Futurist wrote a book entitled "The Art of Noises". Yes ... those would be the same futurists, the movement of Italian artists active around the beginning of this century. Although I'm certainly no expert on this sort of thing (heaven forbid!), I do know that these guys attempted to apply their artistic ideas to many many areas of living. Thus there were futurist manifestos published about things ranging from literature to cooking, social mores to styles of clothing. There was one published by a guy called Luigi Russolo concerning the futurist stance on music; it was called "The Art of Noises." Basically, this slim volume (I found a copy in the University library here, it's only a few pages) describes the futurists dissatisfaction with the state that the performance of music (classical music, of course) had reached -- they thought it was tired and stale. As a radical alternative they proposed using noises from everyday life to make "music." The manifesto categorises noises into five (I think) classes which would make up sections of their futurist orchestra. I believe BTW that there was at least one performance by this orchestra sometime around 1920. Anyway ... getting back to the question about "Zang Tuum Tuum" .. the name as far as I know derives from the work of another one of the futurists, a poet whose name I can't recall (I think it began with 'A'). This man was one of the principals of the movement and like many of its members volunteered to fight for Italy in WW1. During his service he wrote a novel about the siege of a city (based on something he experienced). It was called "Zang Tumb Tuuum;" the words were supposed to resemble the sound of some of the large guns that were constantly pounding the city. Yes, I know this all sounds highly improbable. But these people were like that. Which is presumably why Morley picked on them to base the early ZTT image around. Dean ====================================================================== Dean Engelhardt |"Next to being witty yourself, the best thing dean@cs.adelaide.edu.au | is to quote another's wit" - C.N.Bovee PS: The web page http://pharmdec.wustl.edu/juju/surr/futurism/FUTCAST3.html talks about some theatre group's interpretation of Zang Tumb Tuuum. Just goes to show you can find all the weirdest stuff on WWW. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dean Engelhardt Subject: Re: Another dumb question Date: 16 Jan 1996 11:01:28 +1030 (CST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Dean Engelhardt <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. I wrote: > > Anyway ... getting back to the question about "Zang Tuum Tuum" .. the > name as far as I know derives from the work of another one of the futurists, > a poet whose name I can't recall (I think it began with 'A'). Oops ... checking my facts, it looks like the name of the author was Filippo Marinetti. Goes to show how good *my* memory is :-) D. ====================================================================== Dean Engelhardt |"Next to being witty yourself, the best thing dean@cs.adelaide.edu.au | is to quote another's wit" - C.N.Bovee ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Herman Subject: Re: Another dumb question Date: 15 Jan 1996 16:41:16 -0800 (PST) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Paul Herman <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > [regarding the name Zang Tuum Tuum]: > > > > Would this be the same Italian futurist AON attribute their name to? (AON > > claims Mr. Futurist wrote a book entitled "The Art of Noises". > [snip!] Hi! (my first post to this group) A while back, I took a music appreciation class and we had to buy a supplemental book for the class... So then the class ended and a few years later I was thumbing through it and to my astonishment I found a paper called.... "The Art of Noises"!!! Imagine my astonishment when I started reading the very paper that AON had talked about in their liner notes. (Guess what, the author's name escapes me, too!) Anyway, I'm away at school now, but next week I'll go home to pick up that book and transcribe the article for you. If you can't wait, the book is called "Music in the western world" or something (It is maroon paperback with a big hand with writing on it, on the cover) and it is by (I think) Weiss. It's a great book if you're into reading about music. I'll be back in a couple weeks! - -Paul. P.S. Although he talks about the orchestra of the future, I don't recall him mentioning "Zang Tuum Tuum", although I could be wrong. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Henrik Lundstroem" <94K068@chestud.chalmers.se> Subject: RE: Another dumb question Date: 16 Jan 1996 12:59:17 GMT +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Henrik Lundstroem" <94K068@chestud.chalmers.se> <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. > Would this be the same Italian futurist AON attribute their name to? (AON > claims Mr. Futurist wrote a book entitled "The Art of Noises". I believe > this claim is on an "In Visible Silence"-era single. His purported picture > in on the liner notes to "In Visible Silence" and he is also quoted on the > sleeve for "Legs" and "Paranoimia" (sans Headroom)? Evidently, he was a real > person, though I've never run across any other references to him or his > work. (Then again, Seattle is not a hotbed of 19th century Italian > futurism...) > > I've never run across any reference to Mr. Future (can't remember the name, > believe it starts with "R") from the ZTT days; all I've seen of him is from > the early albums when AON fled to China/Chrysalis and John Pasche started > doing their album art direction in faux-Morley style. > > I'll definitely dig up the FGTH love-fest book tonight and look for refs to > Mr. Future. > > I've asked this before and might as well tag this along: does anyone know > what Paul Morley is up to these days? Is he still involved with music/art > direction or has he retired to enjoy the profits from recent ZTT > reissues/remixes/retreads? I've got a small essay at home regarding the Futurist movement (if you're interested... I'm very interested in modernism - this is in fact how I got interested in ZTT (the record label), I thought "Wow, a record label inspired by Italian Futurismo!". Unfortunately, mr Morley doesn't always seem to know what he is talking about - sometimes it's more like "Wow! This is cool - I'll use this for the next ZTT record sleeve". Henrik. Henrik Lundstroem Chemistry student at Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, Sweden Stalivari shout "HEUREKA!!" as the signal for invention par excellence "Mrs Peel, we're needed!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jez Hall Subject: FW: Another dumb question Date: 17 Jan 1996 12:42:00 PST <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Jez Hall <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Mr Morley was on "Peter York's Eighties" last week rabbiting on about style and, in particular, Spandau Ballet. No mention about what he's up to at the mo, though. Jez. >I've asked this before and might as well tag this along: does anyone know >what Paul Morley is up to these days? Is he still involved with music/art >direction or has he retired to enjoy the profits from recent ZTT >reissues/remixes/retreads? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Fitzner" Subject: Re: Another dumb question Date: 17 Jan 1996 16:35:49 +0100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Joerg Fitzner" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. On Jan 15, 2:44pm, Ian Ferrell (Exchange) wrote: > Subject: RE: Another dumb question > [...] > I've asked this before and might as well tag this along: does anyone > know what Paul Morley is up to these days? Is he still involved with > music/art direction or has he retired to enjoy the profits from recent > ZTT reissues/remixes/retreads? I don't know about his latest whereabouts, but I've heard that he was conducting his own record-label called "Sense" a few years ago. I also don't know if this label still exists, but I know they have released some wonderous stuff by "The Wonderstuff" (even including a UK#1 featuring Vic Reeves). The record's artwork is supposed to by typically Morley-esque, I've been told... Zang Tuum Tumb Joerg P.S.: I had the luck to travel to New York for a week, about 6 (hell, it's really that long already!) years ago. Guess what my eyes were to find in the Museum of Modern Art there: A PICTURE by original futurist (one of the "Mr Futurists" referred to as in the recent postings here) Filippo Tommaso A. Marinetti [this A's for you, Dean!]!!! It was just a big page of paper on which the words ZANG TUUM TUMB (or variations of it) were written hundred's of times in different size and shape... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" Subject: Q 4 F Date: 19 Jan 1996 12:56:45 +100 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# "Till Teuber (E-Mail)" <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. QUEST FOR FRANKIE: Since almost 9 years I've been on the quest for a videorecoding of the legendary FgtH-Tour '87. I tried to find it literally everywhere. Now, I finally recieved a Tape including Kiel '87 (good quality) and Brussels '87 (poor quality). It's good to refresh old memorys of one of the most exciting concerts of pop-history (no exaggeration). Bye, Till ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sorenl <31sl@but.auc.dk> Subject: 808 State to State Date: 19 Jan 1996 15:42:55 +0100 (MET) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# sorenl <31sl@but.auc.dk> <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hello Z-people. I'm glad to present a christmas present for all 808 State fans (better late than never). Last week I saw the 808 State Partyzone special for the first time in 4 mounths. And I guess I realized how great an interview it is. So I went on and typed the whole thing down! I must be crazy or something like that. But it was the first big amount of 808 State information I had. It was the first time I got their names confirmed as well!!?! After 3 years as a fan (another story, quite sad actually)! The second information boost was this of course - the internet. I've done this because the interview is superb, and because I would like to see more of that here on the mail-group. Start to spread 808 information fellows. Not necessary rip offs like this. But post questions, answers, facts, small stories etc. Happy New Year! Now make yourself a good cup of tea and enjoy. PS. At anytime the interview is available ziped and UUE encoded by e-mailing me. Also as WP 6.0 doc. .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. .Elevative Music Appetence Is Lovely.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. .____ ____ _ __ ____ _ ___ __ ___ _ __ ____ ____ _ ___ . .(___ | / | |/ |___| |/ | | ____) |/ (___ |___| |/ |. .____/ |_/_| | |___ | | _|_ |___| | ____/ |___ | |. .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._sorenl - Denmark - 31sl@but.auc.dk. ====================================================================== The 808 State Interview ----------------------- Featured in the special 808 State edition of The Partyzone. Broadcasted on August 4, 1994 on MTV Europe. Written down on January 8, 1996 by Soren Larsen (Denmark). Current e-mail account: 31sl@but.auc.dk Thanks to Markus Arnold. E-mail account: markus@euronet.nl Copyright 1996 Soren Larsen. Credited Reproduction Allowed. - -------- A brief introduction: 808 State is a Manchester (England) based techno band. They started out in 1988 with the acidhouse album "Newbuild". What they built was an ability to make the electronic instruments sound alive. Through out the years they've increased the use of live instruments and vocalists in their productions. The result is unique and versatile music. I usually say: "They're Never the Same Twice". This is such a great interview! It tells a lot about 808 State. It's for 808 State fans all over the world. State to State. Communicate with 808 State: State to State - PO Box 808, Hook, RG29 1UF, United Kingdom E-mail account: 808state@feedback.com World Wide Web URL: http://www.feedback.com/808 - -------- The interview. Persons involved: S: Simone - the host. A: Andrew Barker. G: Graham Massey. D: Darren Partington. Other explanations: The Partyzone - A two hour dance music show broadcasted once a week on MTV Europe. The Hacienda - A famous Manchester club. The first place where house music started in England. The catwalk - Bombadin received a world premiere as the finale music to the Todd Oldham Winter 1994 fashion show in New York. The 808 State radio show - It started in the late 80's on Manchester radio stations. Now broadcasted on Kiss 102 Manchester. For more information check MC Tunes: "The North At It's Heights" (sleeve information) and URL: http://www.u-net.com/kiss102/808.html - -------- 1. Part - "next" trailer. (Music: Plan 9) S: "Right. Whatever you've got planned tonight, do not leave the house, because a very special Partyzone is gonna come your way with very special co-host - 808 State." - -------- 2. Part - intro. (Music: One In Ten) D: "Hey we're 808 State -" G: "- and you're watching -" A: "- The Partyzone on MTV." - -------- 3. Part (Music: Reaper Repo) S: "Right this is it. The Partyzone and a very special one because for the first time ever we've got co-host. Yes. Dance music will no longer be faceless. 808 State - getting pretty hot here in these lights." D: "Yeah. On the couch. Sat down - chillin' out." S: "Real couch potatoes. Listen. A lot of people probably don't know you guys. But you've had eight albums out, 15 singles. I never realised it was that much. Well - been pretty busy?" D: "Very busy." A: "We've been busy for 5 years." S: "So what about since the last album, since Gorgeous. By the way who's gorgeous? I mean, why Gorgeous?" A: "It was named after him." [pointing at Graham] D: "We've been busy. We hide a lot in the studio. We do a lot of production for other people and at the moment we're working on our own album. So. We're hidden away in little rooms. In Manchester - in Sheffield." S: "Excuse me. You're hidden away in little rooms, and you've got a suntan like that." D: "I fell asleep in the sun. Yeah - we do get days off. We should have sunbeds in the studio." [Laughing] S: "Well. How flash. Anyway there's a lot to talk about with these guys. And we will, so stay tuned for that. But first up to get in the mood and to have some 808 State videos. Here is Pacific State." Video showed: "Pacific" - -------- 4. Part (Music: Plan 9) S: "Still here on the sofa with 808 State. Collaborations! You guys have collaborated with so many people right. Here goes a list, if I can remember the whole list. David Bowie, Quincy Jones, New Order, UB40, Bjork ehh..." D: "Yeah. We do a lot of remixes. A lot of them were collaborations on our own albums. We have been commissioned to do a lot of remixes in our time. And we've turned quite a lot down as well." S: "So you say. You're not busy in the studio with all these people." D: "Sometimes yeah. Sometimes no. The stuff with Bjork was on our own album, so we did it with her in the studio. A lot of times we just get the tape. We do the remixes and the people say: Yeah we like it lets go with it." G: "We prefer working in the studio because there's more like an exchange going on. It shakes you out of the normal routine." S: "It was brilliant you guys did that Bjork-thing because I was like such a big Sugarcubes fan and all the sudden she just jumped into the dance scene. Like 'yes - brilliant'. Loved that." G: "She just did it so instantly as well. We did about two tunes in one day." D: "She came into the studio. We gave her a walkman. She puts the walkman on. She walks out of the studio in the rain, and walked around this place near Manchester and came back with the lyrics. She took the stairs and said: I got the lyrics. She walks into the booth, and went bang." G: "It's often one of the elements that's missing in techno. Spontaneity. It's nice to put people like that in amongst it." D: "It was the same with Bernard from New Order. It was just like, walked into the studio. Let me here the tune. Right. What do you think? You throw ideas across, and he goes into the vocal booth and put the lyrics down. Bang - bang." "That's how we like to work. It's not like working with samples. When we borrow peoples samples and we play around with them. It's like borrowing a piece of that person, giving it a new environment and put it in a dance club." G: "And we pay." A,D: "YEAH. WE PAY!" A: "Heavily. Heavily. Big. Lots of money like..." S: "Is it difficult because it seems like people who make dance music - as soon as a singer comes in they're really lost, cause you can't just press a button and go: I produced this little note here. Is it sometimes difficult? Well you of course you..." A: "I think we're quite good at songs cause we don't have a vocalist. So when you put someone in to do a song it's like a really experience." D: "The vocalists we've used have been really good. We're talking Bjork and Bernard. We only work with people that we can work with. We have been asked to work with other people and we've said: Well maybe not. And we work on some of our own stuff. It's having the choice that have been the good thing. That's why we've been around so long. We've been able to choose the right thing. And hopefully we know what works in dance clubs." S: "Is it true that you had some troubles with David Bowie over a sample? That you had to pay an enormous amount of money. Is that a bit true or not?" G: "It's never been a problem with David Bowie, but a problem with David Bowies lawyer. We ended up after that with sort of remixing "Sound and Vision" for him and everyone was quite happy." S: "So what about your views on sampling?" D: "It's open, you know what I mean. There's a lot of people making money out of sampling now a days. And sampling are, when done properly very creative. You can really mess around with it and come up with something really good." G: "I think. It's still our main instrument. But there's like 1001 different ways of using it. It's not like that obvious corny way like "Pump Up the Volume" used it. It's gone way beyond that now." D: "And I think dance music now has gone global anyway. You can hear a tune and you don't know where it's coming from. You can hear a great sample. It could be a David Bowie sample or a Rolling Stones sample and you can use it in any shape or form. That's what makes dance music so creative." S: "And we're gonna have a look at it right now. I think it's the UB40 track you did that's gonna come up - first up though "The Only Rhyme That Bites"." Videos showed: "The Only Rhyme That Bites" "One In Ten" - -------- 5. Part (Music: One In Ten (UB40 Instrumental)) S: "Right. My favourite part of the show where I can just completely shut up and sit back and relax and..." D: [Bugging Simone] G: "VJ. VJ." D: "VJ in the house. I chose a video for one reason. It's guy that runs our record label - owns our record label. And in this video - is one of our synthesizers." [sounding excited] G: "Three!" D: "It's this beautiful - lovely synthesizer with lots and lots of knobs on it. Check this video out, it's blinding! Buggles: "Video Killed the Radio Star"." [Graham and Darren are bugging each other] G: "I've chosen Beastie Boys ["Sabotage"] because it's the best album of the year, and it's a bit creative and it's very loose." D: "And they look like you in the video!" [bugging Graham] A: "I chose Sonic Youth: "100%". Only reason why is cause I like the video and it's got some top dudes and they are skateboarding. Here they are." - -------- 6. Part (Music: One In Ten (UB40 Vocal)) S: "You are all really busy right now because you are doing something very special. You are starting a fan club. Now sorry, but isn't that a "Take That" kind of thing to do." G: "Well. We haven't got pillow cases yet." [smiling] S: "It's like. You have these little magazines with you as a two year old smiling next to your mum and dad." G: "No. It's more like a techno version of it." D: "We've been together for 6 years. And being signed to a major label like we are. And worldwide. We do tour a lot. You do get a lot of people asking you: Is there anywhere I can get information about the band. We took our time because we've been offered a lot of fan clubs along the way and we've turned it down because of just what you said. We're not an image band. We're about music. And we was approached with this really good idea that combined a lot of things. Not just a fan club with a magazine and a couple of pictures. It's a lot wider than that. And I'll pass it on to Andrew." S: "So." A: "The fan club will have a CD once a year, which is a second album. So as long as we go there's another album which goes with it. Cause we have lots of stuff in a big bin we've not put out yet." G: "There are always too many mixes and too many sort of things that don't get released. You can only release maybe about 12 tracks a year and we're doing about 40 tracks a year." S: "Workaholics?" G: "Well. It's just experimenting. We do a lot of experimenting and a lot of it only works in certain contexts. Plus a lot of people are interested. Whether the record company wants to sell the stuff we make is another matter." S: "Right. That's gonna happen when you become member of this State..." G,D: "State to State." S: "They get a special album. Yeah. As soon as you're full member..." G: "Yeah. It's got all kinds on it. It's got unreleased material, some live stuff on it and collaborations." D: "It's a lot more than a fan club. It's not the basic ones you know fan club. It's based on the Internet with the e-mail stuff and people can ask us direct questions. Because we're not an image conscious band and we don't do that many interviews in magazines and such." "People who are really into the music can ask us questions of how we make the music and why we make the music and what instruments we use. And you can do that by the e-mail stuff. All the information is in the package when you join. And you get to talk to the band direct. You don't get to hear what the band has to say through all the dance publications and all the sorts of music magazines. You get to talk to us direct. Through this fan club direct. There's a lot of time and effort we've put into it." S: "So you are full front again. That's good." D: "Hope so." S: "Hmm. I think so." G: "There's a few people with it now. I think it's a trend for the future. There's a lot of people working their fan bases that way. You know. You can't really rely on the casual buyer that much." "It's taking the responsibility into your own hands of the music you are doing, and be able to be more spontaneous with it. Cause you got more contacts with people who are actually generally interested rather than the sort of casual..." D: "Yeah. We got involved because of that reason. Because we can talk to people in San Francisco in the dance scene. We can talk to people in Japan, we can talk to people in the States very easy, just by sitting against a computer and throwing out messages and information. Lets say we go on tour, we know what raves and parties there're happening at that time and we know what music's happening. It's a communication center. Really." G: "Yeah, we're involved in a scene which is to do with a lot of discommunication. A lot of the times when there was like big raves going off, we were apparently playing all over the place. And people were misusing the name..." S: "Yeah. The same what happens Partyzone. We're supposed to be everywhere. Well listen, 808 State are here. Stay tuned for more with them later on. First up, some more music." Video showed: Plan 9 - -------- 7. Part (Music: Nbambi) S: "Now. One more thing about this Internet, computer network thing you guys work on right. Because it's so new there's no kind of censorship on it at all. Are you gonna make any use of that?" G: "Yeah. That's one of the appealing things about it. It's not actually run by advertisers yet. It's one of the pure forms of communications left." S: "You know, in Britain you get censored like mad. You can't even have stuff like naked bodies on television and on these computer networks you can just send anything you want around." A: "We could have pictures of Graham naked." [laughing] S: "Not that I'm suggesting that's what you should do..." A: "What it's about. It's about that our fans will get it straight from us rather than going through a magazine. You can ask us questions, personal or whatever. Anything about the kit. And you'll get the answers straight away. Straight to you..." G: "We can talk to other people doin' music and exchange information." D: "Because dance music is a global thing! It's nice to pop up on a computer and see what's happening in Japan. And you can incorporate that into your music. It's gonna be a very big boost for 808 State, knowing what's going on globally." S: "So look. Err. Look what have you got there on your lap?" [looking at Andrew] D: "Don't give it away. Nooo." [shoutin'] S: "Now. What's gonna happen. The first person who's gonna write to your State to State fan club - is gonna get this. Just like that. You don't have to answer any difficult questions. What is it exactly?" A: "It's a Roland R8 human rhythm composer. A drum machine in a word." D: "As used by us." S: "And you get a t-shirt with it as well?" A: "Yeah. You get some of these." [pointing at Grahams football t-shirt with the butterfly logo] "And you might get some of these." [Graham is showing Bombadin US12", Newbuild LP, Gorgeous (Disco Disc edition) LP and Ex:El LP] D: "Freebies." S: "So easy one. You don't have to answer any questions. All you gotta do is just write to this address. 808 Sta... no 808. State to State. PO Box 808, Hook, Basingstoke, RG25 1UF, in England." "I bet there was something else I wanted to ask you, but I've just completely forgot. I know a video we're gonna watch. Great video. And you know this video: "Stakker Humanoid". Something must have happened in my past that's gone into my subconscious. Cause as soon as this tune comes on I just get the biggest grin." A,G,D: [laughing] S: "I love it. It's coming your way, right now." [smiling] - -------- 8. Part (Music: Femme Deluxe) S: "Like The Grid, The Future Sound of London and The Orb. You guys are really in with this whole visual computer graphic thing, aren't ..." [Andrew looking suspicious] "Or am I completely wrong here?" G: "Yeah. To an extent." S: "To an extent. Where do you see all this going? Have you done certain projects? Like special video projects, that's what I was told anyway... Well my fabulous producer, you better be right about this one!" [shoutin' out of the set] D: "Not at all! A lot of other bands are. We're a dance band - what's about music. I mean, there's a lot of dance bands that put out these chill-out videos and ambient videos. We've never done that. We've never ever done that. That's one field we never really got into. Our videos have always been diverse and very weird. That's why no-one could ever follow 808 State - as a band, as a production team." S: "So is that through your own input that your videos have always been weird?" A: "Yeah. Cause a lot of the computer graphics there're around at the moment... It cost a lot of money to get the really good ones. So we've tried to avoid getting the bad ones." D: "Sometimes it can work in a very cold way. In our videos we like to use us and show people who are making the music. Cause a lot of these computer videos - a bloke walking down the road, turning and drinking a cup of tea [Darren is showing how :-)] is a bit limited to a degree. Unless you got a lot of money. Unless you're Peter Gabriel and people like that." G: "I think it's getting better now. It's getting more affordable. It's getting into the hand of people who can start messing it around. I mean initially, I think a lot of that early computer-generated stuff is gonna look like those sort of posters - like Jimmy Hendrix." D: "Yeah and the tennis game. [Darren is showing with the hands] You know what I mean." S: "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah." G: "And it's certainly developing now, cause it's in the hands of people who can twist it a bit." S: "Anyway we're gonna have a look at one band who like to use all these technologies. It's The Grid and "Flotation"." - -------- 9. Part (Music: Lemon) S: "Now 808 State of course. In the beginning, played a lot at the Hacienda. I mean did you play there a lot or ...?" A: "Once." S: "Only once!" [surprised] D: "As a band. - We were there a lot. Dancing and prancing." S: "Is it true by the way that it's really getting better again, cause I heard that a lot of people are going back there now." A: "We might be playing there." S: "You might be playing there?" A: "Or we might have played there." [sounding suspicious] S: "So mysterious, ehh." D: "The Hacienda has always ... I mean if you look at places like Blackpool you've got Blackpool Tower. Manchester has got The Hacienda. You know what I mean. It's always been a focus point especially on the dance culture. It's nice to go there, they do get a lot of good guest DJs. But there are other clubs in Manchester that deserve a mention." S: "Like here you go." D: "Yeah. There's like Home and The Paradise Factory. There's new clubs coming up all the time. There's a lot of clubs there're pretty young when you look at Manchester. All doing different styles of dance music." S: "So what about globally, cause you toured US, Japan - Europe of course. What do you think about the dance scene in all these different places?" G: "We did Singapore which was really brilliant, cause it had such an innocence about it that we tend to miss now. Everyone is such an expert on clubbing, and you forget that there shouldn't be any experts on clubbing cause it's just about having a good time. And the good thing about playing Singapore was that it was really innocent and they were really up for it in a different kind of way. They saw it for what it was." S: "Yeah. It all gets a bit too serious." G,D: "Yeah it does." D: "Everybody is an expert." S: "What about Europe? What do you think about the differences between the countries?" D: "It's mutated a lot. If you look at the harthouse stuff. I mean when you look at England a lot of people at going for the garage and the disco stuff on a global scale. I think there's some great music in all terms of dance music. But you have to look at the Europeans for the hard strong Euro stuff. That's what they are very good at." G: "I think the English is a little more experimenting and wigged-out." S: "Well. A little bit more 808 coming you way. Here is "Timebomb"." Video showed: "Time Bomb" - -------- 10. Part (Music: Purple Dust) S: "Right. We're at the end of the show now are you lost or OK there." [laughing] "Ohh God. The show is so long. Now. Your music has even hit the cat walks right?" A: "Yeah." S: "Would you ever produce them? Any sexy ladies in the studio is that your idea of fun?" A: "If they can sing, yeah." S: "If they can sing. Really. You're really interested in that." A: "If they can sing." S: "Oh well. So they better stay on the catwalks?" A: "Yeah." [laughing] S: "Anyway. Thanks for being on the show. Is there anything really special lined up that people should watch out for?" D: "The brand new album. We're really exited about it. And that is not a corny phrase. We are. We spend a lot of time on this new album. That's why we've come up today to do this. It's just to say like: We're still around, we're very busy. Hopefully towards the end of this year and the start of next year, the new album will be there and 808 State will storm in a big way." G: "New single out this week "Bombadin"." A: "And the new radio show starring..." D: "Domination of 808 State. Is on." S: "Radio show on what ...?" A: "In Manchester. It's a new station." S: "You guys are always in Manchester! What about us?" [upset] G: "How many listeners?" [pointing at Andrew] A: "Listeners. 65000." G: "We've been going on for five years now with the 808 State radio show and the radio station has just been overtaken by a new company." S: "OK now. As promised right, we're out of here. But you promised me a bit of your dance routine. And I know the new album is out [???] so I'm sure you guys have a brand new dance routine that you want to show the rest of the world. So - so." [The 808 guys are taking off their mics and getting up. Simone pretends not to notice.] A,G,D: "So. So. ON YOUR MARKS. GET SET. GO!" [They're running out of the set while laughing.] S: [crying] "Ohh. What are you doing. I was waiting for my routine. It will be all over. Oh well, I'll dance my own little bit then and if you like I'll see you back next week. I don't like this." [Simone is dancing and laughing in her chair as Purple Dust fades out] Video showed: The Partyzone Massive vs. 808 State "State to State" 0:00 Intro: Pacific & 10 x 10 0:35 In Yer Face 1:10 10 x 10 1:20 Sexy Synthesizer 1:40 Lift 2:10 Bombadin 2:40 Marathon 3:15 One In Ten 3:50 Marathon 4:25 Colony 4:35 Olympic '93 5:30 The Fat Shadow 6:00 [The End] ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juicy@gnn.com (Tom McClintock) Subject: ZTT book Date: 19 Jan 1996 10:26:21 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# Juicy@gnn.com (Tom McClintock) <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get a copy of the 10th aniversarry ZTT book put out last year or the year before? Thanks for any help. tom mcclintock ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DELILLIE@nacdh4.nac.ac.za Subject: Spinmasters / 808 State Date: 22 Jan 1996 01:00:12 +0200 <# Replies to this message will go to: <# DELILLIE@nacdh4.nac.ac.za <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hi there 808 State fans. Their last commercial release was 'Bombadin' way back in 1994, and with 'Pump' and it's parent album threatening to become a saga of Beatlesque 'Get Back/ Let It Be' proportions, i thought you might like (re)reading this NME article from late 1990. I've included it as originally printed, with (minor) corrections or elucidations in [ ]. If anybody is interested in purchasing mint 808 State, MC Tunes or FGTH collectibles, i can recommend a very reliable UK-based mail order company. And they're on the Net !! Drop me a line for more info. Here goes ... JOCK'S RAP - Mandi James New Musical Express, 15 December 1990 You may need no introduction to THE SPINMASTERS, but Darren [Daz] Partington and Andrew [Andy] Barker have a reputation which precedes their current status as popstars. They have been the names behind the wildest nights in the Northern hemisphere and are currently reviving flagging enthusiasm, stirring the atmosphere to fever pitch and drawing people back into the clubs. Andy and Darren began DJing when they hit double figures, cutting vinyl [as part of The Hitsquad M/Cr] at the local Salvation Army Youth Club when most of their peer group were in bed before sundown. Before Manchester's Thunderdome disappeared in a fiery inferno and became a target of gun-toting villains, The Spinmasters were drawing crowds of over 1,000 [1 000 not 1.000] to their Saturday night/Sunday morning communion. Enter the Soundgarden, it's low ceilings, high atmosphere, beer slopped floor and (hyper) ventilation taking the politics of dancing right back to basics. Good solid tunes, good soggy clothing and good, packed dancefloor. "A lot of people have said they hadn't bothered going out since the Thunder- dome, they've migrated straight to the Soundgarden. We're playing probably the hardest music in town which caters to a real specific crowd." Scaring the pants off the uninitiated and sending old faithfuls potty, The Spinmasters' night at the Soundgarden is a welcome change to one dimensional dance floors and dot to dot DJing. And if weekend binges aren't enough to sate your appetite, Spinmasters host a Tuesday night radio show on Manchester's Sunset Radio. [When i last heard, it was weekend evenings on Manchester's KISS FM]. Although confined to limited airwaves, the show has hit cult status and is gradually seeping all over the country [via digital quality CD bootlegs] - playing the hottest selection of "them tunes what are bangin'" and stitching the tracks together with chaotic humour, surreal adverts and the legendary problem page. PARADISE 10 [Spinmasters' Fave Rave spins] 1. IN YOUR [YER] FACE, 808 State, Tommy Boy [ZTT] 2. MAGNIFY MANIFESTATION, DI, Tam Tam 3. ULTIMO, Imperio Atahualapa, DFC 4. FATHER FORGIVE THEM (TRENT'S MIX), Holy Noise, Hithouse Records 5. THE CALLING, Fade II Black, Network 6. Q, Mental Cube, Debut 7. SPLIFFHEAD, The Ragga Twins, Shut Up And Dance 8. FERRARI, Project 1, Tam Tam 9. KEEP IT UP (CHILLING REMAKE), YBU [featuring Anneli Mrian Drecker], SSR 10. WHITE LIGHT, Secret Desire, Vinyl Solution * Spinmasters play at Trance, Man Alive Club (Wednesday) & The Soundgarden, Back Picadilly (Saturday) Lionel D de Lillie \/\/\/ tel : +27 (0)21 9592324/2327/3430 Physics Department |||||| fax : +27 (0)21 959 3474 University of the \\\/// Western Cape <|-oo-|> e-mail : lionel@physics.uwc.ac.za Private Bag X17 0( () )0 e-mail : delillie@nacdh4.nac.ac.za Bellville \<>/ 7530 South Africa \/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sorenl <31sl@but.auc.dk> Subject: Just a small story Date: 30 Jan 1996 14:05:31 +0100 (MET) <# Replies to this message will go to: <# sorenl <31sl@but.auc.dk> <# To respond to the list, please mail your message to ztt@xmission.com. <# For help unsubscribing, say "HELP" in a message to majordomo@xmission.com. Hej Zs Yesterday - Was P-day. I've been on this maillist for some time now. All the talk about the different ZTT acts have made me curious. I want to know what music they've made. Especially whose I didn't know before I made it to the internet. Like - Propaganda. And then it happend yesterday. I went to a second hand shop in my hometown and guess what. I found "A Secret Wish" and "Wishful Thinking" on LPs and both were mint condition. I was very surprised. In Denmark!? The country in which there's almost only pop-music and lame compilations. Anyway I bought the records, and now I've heard both a couple of times. And you know. That's actually some damn good music. Wonderful stereo perspective. Great produced. 80s synth when it's best. And of course I've heard some of it before. Actually "Jewel" has been the intro-music to the radio program "Det Elektriske Barometer" for a very long time. Broadcasted once a week on national Danish radio!!? And they've been sampled! I love it, when I hear some old records and I can spot original samples. The first thing I played was "Dream Within a Dream" and I recognised it at once from some recent techno record. The computer- static at the start of "P-Machinery" has been used on some 1991 German vacuum-cleaner-techno with the title "It's the New Style". (Help me here Marcus). The "1-2-3-4" from "Jewel" is multi-sampled on 1990 Euro dance records. So I guess they've inspired a lot of people. Anyway. You have inspired my to buy Propaganda records. Thanks. PS. Going though the archives I've found out that "Lopez" the radio1 track by 808 State has been available in a longer MPEG-version than the 22 sek. AU-version from WebState. Could anyone PLEASE mail my that encoded in some way OR could anyone PLEASE tell me where it's available on the net. 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