From: 808boy <808boy@cracl.demon.co.uk> Subject: (ztt) oceanhead feat. claudia brucken single.. Date: 03 Jul 1997 15:20:31 GMT afternoon ztt-ers! i picked up the following today, that i thought may be of interest to some of you.. Oceanhead featuring Claudia Brucken 'Eyemotion' 1. 1997 UK promo 12" (Land Speed Records/EMI, 12 EMDJ 479) 'dj promo one' a. full length original 8.17 b1.radio edit 3.53 b2.nathan's eternal vibe dub 5.04 2. 1997 UK promo 12" (Land Speed records/EMI, 12 EMDJX 479) 'dj promo two' a. blakkats striptease mix 7.20 b. medic live dub 6.36 they had a few extra copies of promo 2, but i got the only copy of #1. ttfn. -- 808boy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE_REARDON@HP-Andover-om3.om.hp.com Subject: (ztt) oceanhead feat. claudia brucken single.. Date: 03 Jul 1997 11:52:14 -0600 Item Subject: 1.txt "unix headers" Could not convert BINARY FILE item to text. Will attempt to 'shar' item as file '0656vkb' at end of msg. ....................................................................... 808boy wrote: >afternoon ztt-ers! >i picked up the following today, that i thought may be of interest to some of >you.. >Oceanhead featuring Claudia Brucken 'Eyemotion' >1. 1997 UK promo 12" (Land Speed Records/EMI, 12 EMDJ 479) >'dj promo one' >a. full length original 8.17 >b1.radio edit 3.53 >b2.nathan's eternal vibe dub 5.04 >2. 1997 UK promo 12" (Land Speed records/EMI, 12 EMDJX 479) >'dj promo two' >a. blakkats striptease mix 7.20 >b. medic live dub 6.36 >they had a few extra copies of promo 2, but i got the only copy of #1. >ttfn. >-- >808boy How does this new release sound? I've got it on pre-order with one of my import dealers, but I may not see it for a few months here in America. Is it similar in style to previous Claudia releases, or is she going in new directions? Any info is appreciated. Thanks; Mike # This is a shell archive. 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Date: 04 Jul 1997 10:55:34 GMT evidence of ztt's ever desperate roster of acts.... the lastest promos going around are from new signing ADAMSKI. i kid you not. jeez. -- 808boy (aka Smiley) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Bortz Subject: (ztt) 808 US release... Date: 04 Jul 1997 15:55:05 -0400 Hello all. Thought I should let everyone know that the US release of the 808 State album "Don Solaris" will be officially released on August 19 here in the states under the Cleopatra label. I haven't heard anything about promo's or singles yet, but if I here anything, I'll definately post! I did hear that Cleopatra doesn't do much promoting, so I will just hope for the best! Cheers to all, Josh "808 State is O'so GREAT!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Heinzeroth Subject: (ztt) Seal Remix Date: 05 Jul 1997 18:35:53 -0500 Picked up a radio promo today that included the track: 4:11 Don't Cry (Soulpower Remix) Anyone know if this mix appears anywhere else? Just curious as I'm not as "up" on Seal releases as I would like to be. Thanks. -------- -------- Visit my SYNTHPOP page with over 1,200 examples synthpop cover art! http://www.swcp.com/blakeh/synthpop.htm Email: blakeh@ix.netcom.com -------- -------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE_REARDON@HP-Andover-om3.om.hp.com Subject: (ztt) AoN Picture Disc Date: 07 Jul 1997 04:53:11 -0600 Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Hello everyone; I was checking the auction listings today, and found the following listing: Art of Noise "Yebo" Pic Disc. If you're interested, check it out at: www2.ebay.com/aw/itemfast.cgi?item=aww6322 Good luck; Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gareth Edwards Subject: Re: (ztt) Seal Remix Date: 07 Jul 1997 21:18:44 GMT Blake Heinzeroth wrote: > Picked up a radio promo today that included the track: > > 4:11 Don't Cry (Soulpower Remix) > > Anyone know if this mix appears anywhere else? Just curious as I'm not as > "up" on Seal releases as I would like to be. Thanks. Never heard of it on any other single releases. Sounds like it could be a one-off. Could you send me the catalog number for the discography. Love & Life, G. -- Gareth Edwards Home (rarely) : <*> Work (likely) : FUTURE LOVE PARADISE: http://www.ultim.demon.co.uk/seal # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KGB Subject: Re: (ztt) Seal Remix Date: 08 Jul 1997 07:50:40 -0700 > > 4:11 Don't Cry (Soulpower Remix) This is an edit from the US release of Don't Cry (43667-2) from 1996. 1 DON'T CRY SOULPOWER REMIX 4.24 2 DON'T CRY MO' KUTZ R&B REMIX EXTENDED 6.19 3 DON'T CRY ALBUM VERSION 6.20 4 DON'T CRY SOULPOWER REMIX INSTRUMENTAL 4.24 5 DON'T CRY RADIO EDIT 4.33 6 FAST CHANGES ALBUM VERSION 5.41 KGB. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Coffey Subject: (ztt) live at 8 Date: 08 Jul 1997 16:03:10 +0100 (BST) I`m thinking of going to see 808 state live in england this summer (i think that fluke are also playing...... Has anybody seen them play live ........????? timc ______________________________________________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I can't believe i shook the guy's friggin' hand" ______________________________________________________________________________ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KGB Subject: Re: (ztt) Seal Remix ... p.s. Date: 08 Jul 1997 08:30:16 -0700 > This is an edit from the US release of Don't Cry (43667-2) from 1996. > > 1 DON'T CRY SOULPOWER REMIX 4.24 > 2 DON'T CRY MO' KUTZ R&B REMIX EXTENDED 6.19 > 3 DON'T CRY ALBUM VERSION 6.20 > 4 DON'T CRY SOULPOWER REMIX INSTRUMENTAL 4.24 > 5 DON'T CRY RADIO EDIT 4.33 > 6 FAST CHANGES ALBUM VERSION 5.41 p.s. I was not impressed by either of the remixes on this single. They were a confused attempt at applying the American Soul sound (that is all over the place today). There have been discussions about the value of a remix when it moves the music so far away from the source. This is yet another example of what not to do. KGB. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry MacGregor Subject: Re: (ztt) live at 8 Date: 08 Jul 1997 01:20:10 -0700 Tim Coffey wrote: > I`m thinking of going to see 808 state live in england this summer (i > think that fluke are also playing...... > Has anybody seen them play live ........????? > > timc I saw them in New Haven, CT, USA for the Gorgeous tour. It was in a fairly small nightclub and VERY loud. My ears were ringing for at least a day and a half after. Other than that, it was quite enjoyable. Did you have any specific questions . . .? Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Fitzner" Subject: Re: (ztt) [...] Remix Date: 09 Jul 1997 18:21:34 +0000 On Jul 5, 6:35pm, Blake Heinzeroth wrote: > Subject: (ztt) Seal Remix > > Picked up a radio promo today that included the track: > > 4:11 Don't Cry (Soulpower Remix) > > Anyone know if this mix appears anywhere else? Just curious as I'm not as > "up" on Seal releases as I would like to be. Thanks. Hi! This is not really an answer to the question, but for everybody who tries to keep a survey over all the different versions of a song, I have made a complete list of all versions of all songs on ZTT, I know of: Yours Joerg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 808boy <808boy@cracl.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: (ztt) ztt's latest signing... Date: 10 Jul 1997 14:45:57 GMT 808boy writes: > the lastest promos going around are from new signing ADAMSKI. i kid you not. if any of you are interested in the details of these, then here they are.. Adamski's Thing 'Existential Boredom' * promo 1, sam 2081, picture cover, 'honk if you love things' left side: the voiced road rage 'existential boredom' as if you didn't know right side: the voiceless road rage 'existential boredom' as if you didn't know mixing on the road to everywhere: the jetslags! * promo2, sam 2082, picture cover, 'honk if you love the dj' warm side: a lewd fondue 'existential boredom' do you hum cool side: lewd beats 'existential boredom' or do you whistle warming up the mix: a man called adam according to the press sheet, the 'thing' is his new band. he writes and produces everything, and the vocals on this track are his too...hmmmm. laters. -- 808boy (aka Smiley) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 808boy <808boy@cracl.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: (ztt) oceanhead feat. claudia Date: 11 Jul 1997 10:00:24 GMT 808boy writes: > Oceanhead featuring Claudia Brucken 'Eyemotion' > 'dj promo one' > a. full length original 8.17 > b1.radio edit 3.53 > b2.nathan's eternal vibe dub 5.04 > 'dj promo two' > a. blakkats striptease mix 7.20 > b. medic live dub 6.36 this is actually a pretty good track. i was pleasantly surprised... it's a fairly mellow, laid-back track - quite ambient in feel. it reminds me a little of the Angelo Badalamenti/Julie Cruise stuff from Twin Peaks. claudia speaks most of the vocals (except a sung chorus), a la dream within a dream. the song is fairly 'fruity', but one of the suggestive lyrics just makes me laugh out loud! 'come and catch me, like a fish' 'taste me on your salty lips' ooh err! another track this reminds me of is that gillian anderson track that came out recently, although a lot better (obviously). the 'vibe dub' is the compulsory drum 'n bass workout, and although it's pretty obvious in places, it actually works quite well. the remixer is 'nathan e' (?). the 'blakket..' mix, is a much more uptempo, thumping bass remix, but there are NO VOCALS, which renders it pretty pointless. mixed by Mark Bell (LFO?). the 'medic' mix is much better, with a lighter bassline, and some of the spoken vocals. however, they have been slightly treated to make them sound vaguely computerised - although not in a 'speak and spell' way... anyway, pretty good really. laters. -- 808boy (aka Smiley) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: transmat@teleport.com (Richard B) Subject: (ztt) FS: AoN - 808 State vinyl Date: 13 Jul 1997 13:10:51 -0700 (PDT) I have the following items for sale - Vinyl Art of Noise - Legacy 12" Legacy (extended version/Legs/Opus III/Legacy edit (China Records - WOK XII) Cover has sticker residue (about 1 inch by 1 half inch) on front and back slight ring wear on back - other wise VG plus -Vinyl is Near mint -still shiny - $5 808 State -ex:el - (ZTT6D) TWO 12" Pack (I heard that this was a Limited Edition for DJs but am not positive) - Cover and Vinyl are near mint - $18 808 State -808:90 - (ZTT2) Cover has a bend on the top right side - other wise in VG plus condition. Vinyl is near mint - $15 Shipping is extra. $3 shipped via First Class US priority Mail in Vinyl record shippers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Richards Subject: (ztt) Off Topic - Lexicon #4 back from printers - news about Propaganda and 808 State Date: 16 Jul 1997 21:51:23 -0400 Hi, this is off topic, but I know that just a FEW people on this list like music from the '80s. Lexicon #4 is back from the printers - It features interviews with Curt Smith (Ex Tears For Fears Singer), Real Life (Remember "Send Me An Angel"?), Information Society and The Ocean Blue. The Discography is for Human League and Heaven 17 Reviews for stuff from Kate Bush, ABC ('natch), Heaven 17, XTC, Lighting Seeds, Ultravox, Voice of the Beehive, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, and more News about 808 State, Art of Noise and Propaganda (although for you ZTTHeads it may be a bit stale!) If you want a copy of the mag just email me and I will give you details! Thanks for your time and server space! -David Richards Lexicon PO Box 1734 Wheaton, MD 20915 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick S. Daly" Subject: (ztt) Propaganda Date: 20 Jul 1997 10:34:34 -0700 Ok, I have a really involved question about Propaganda's "A Secret Wish." I live in the U.S., and to my knowledge, there have been two releases of A Secret Wish here (one by WEA and the other by PGD). Both, unfortunately, do not have the correct tracks on them. (Frozen Faces is completely omitted, among other differences.) A friend of mine had a version of A Secret Wish that had "Jewel" with the lyrics to "Duel" plus "Frozen Faces." Is there a version of this cd currently in print anywhere? I've seen UK, Japanese, and German imports of A Secret Wish here in the U.S., but I don't want to buy the cd unless I know what I'm getting. Any help would be greatly appreciated . . . psd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Heinzeroth Subject: Re: (ztt) Propaganda Date: 20 Jul 1997 10:50:53 -0500 At 10:34 AM 7/20/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Ok, I have a really involved question about Propaganda's "A Secret >Wish." I live in the U.S., and to my knowledge, there have been two >releases of A Secret Wish here (one by WEA and the other by PGD). Both, >unfortunately, do not have the correct tracks on them. (Frozen Faces is >completely omitted, among other differences.) >Any help would be greatly appreciated . . . That's a good question. Here are some details on the various releases: --- Propaganda A Secret Wish Full Release United States Island 422-842 496-2 8:03 Dream Within A Dream 5:17 The Murder Of Love 3:09 Jewel 4:41 Duel 3:50 P:Machinery [album mix] 3:27 Sorry For Laughing 4:57 Dr. Mabuse [the first life] 4:05 The Chase 2:59 The Last Word/Strength To Dream Tracks are mislabeled on this issue of the CD. Track listing indiacates "Frozen Faces" is on the CD, when in actuality, it is left out. Other timing differences. --- Propaganda A Secret Wish Full Release United Kingdom ZTT CID 126 9:08 Dream Within A Dream [extended remix] 5:13 The Murder Of Love 6:23 Jewel [cut rough with edited into] 4:43 Duel [slightly remixed] 4:25 Frozen Faces 3:50 P:Machinery [single mix] 3:27 Sorry For Laughing 4:05 The Chase 10:42 Das Testament Des Mabuse/Strength To Dream --- Propaganda A Secret Wish Full Release Japan ZTT/Warner WPCR-20 8:04 Dream Within A Dream 5:16 The Murder Of Love 3:09 Jewel 4:47 Duel 4:22 Frozen Faces 3:50 P:Machinery 3:27 Sorry For Laughing 3:00 Dr. Mabuse 5:03 The Chase 4:05 Strength To Dream 3:21 Femme Fatale (The Woman With The Orchid) 6:33 Das Testaments Des Mabuse 7:39 Duel (Bittersweet) 10:49 P:Machinery (Beta) --- These three releases are the only releases of 'A Secret Wish' on CD that I know of (except for the German version, and I believe that track listing is the same as the US version. If someone out there knows, please post). The US CD is still in print, and very easy to find, but unfortunately does not contain Frozen Faces. If you can score the Japanese release (WPCR-20) you can not only have Frozen faces, but 4 excellent bonus tracks. I bought mine from CD Banzai (www.cdbanzai.com). Be warned however, it can take up to three months to get your CD, and there's no guarantee you'll get it all (they'll refund your money whenever you ask). You may still be able to find the UK release (CID 126) in a used CD store (got mine for $2!!). But, if you can find it, go with the Japanese release. -------- -------- Visit my SYNTHPOP page with over 1,200 examples synthpop cover art! http://www.swcp.com/blakeh/synthpop.htm Email: blakeh@ix.netcom.com -------- -------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (ztt) Propaganda Date: 20 Jul 1997 13:17:18 -0600 (MDT) > Ok, I have a really involved question about Propaganda's "A Secret > Wish." I live in the U.S., and to my knowledge, there have been two > releases of A Secret Wish here (one by WEA and the other by PGD). Both, > unfortunately, do not have the correct tracks on them. This depends very heavily on your definition of "correct tracks". The US CD(s) of A Secret Wish all track exactly as the LP version did, though they do have the wrong tracklist printed on the back. > A friend of mine had a version of A Secret Wish that had "Jewel" with the > lyrics to "Duel" plus "Frozen Faces." Is there a version of this cd > currently in print anywhere? I assume your friend has the original import (UK/GE) version of the CD. The album isn't in print in that exact configuration, but the most recent UK pressing I know of -- the 1994 ZTT Tenth Anniversary issue -- is pretty close and has both of the tracks you ask after. You can get full details on all known pressings from the Discography Machine at , search for "A Secret Wish" and leave in the quotes. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "K. Farley" Subject: (ztt) Re: ztt Digest V2 #17 Date: 20 Jul 1997 20:26:11 -0500 (CDT) Hello. I am looking for a copy of "Snobbery and Decay", the ep, by Act (propaganda) or anything else that act did. I also like fgth and 808 state. thanks, KEvin Farley _________________________________________________________________________ " The breakers rolled in, their edges transparent as green glass. The spray beaded on her tan. " - William Gibson, Count Zero _________________________________________________________________________ |DJ Mage sez "Disco is King!"| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "K. Farley" Subject: (ztt) Re: ztt Digest V2 #17 Date: 20 Jul 1997 20:26:11 -0500 (CDT) Hello. I am looking for a copy of "Snobbery and Decay", the ep, by Act (propaganda) or anything else that act did. I also like fgth and 808 state. thanks, KEvin Farley _________________________________________________________________________ " The breakers rolled in, their edges transparent as green glass. The spray beaded on her tan. " - William Gibson, Count Zero _________________________________________________________________________ |DJ Mage sez "Disco is King!"| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: artisan001@webtv.net (james coward) Subject: (ztt) Re: AON live (In Visible Silence) Date: 21 Jul 1997 00:47:52 -0500 Andy Robinson stated that "Peter Gunn" was not live on the AON concert video. I have a copy, from PolyGram Video. "Peter Gunn" most certainly *was* live on mine. It did not sound too terribly live, though, due to technological constraints. Duane Eddy's guitar is set up with a low bridge and his custom tuning (I believe down to "A"), thusly, making it unique and *hard* to duplicate. The piece opens w/ a direct studio sample of Duane's galloping start-up and the drum roll. All else was done by Dave Bronze on a Roland GR-7 MIDI guitar; hence the non-live sound. The GR-7, as I remember, has no formal pickups on it and it was never engineered to put out an accoustic/electric sound. Only MIDI signal goes out. In this case, it was piped to J.J's Fairlight CMI series IIx (it might have been a series III) where they tweaked the closest sounding sample to sound even closer (to the edit? Tee Hee) to Duane. Unfortunately, it didn't work very well. But, they gave it their best. As for Andy's copys: you may have been ripped off, man. Or it may have been a manufacturing flaw (but, twice?). My copy is in stereo, only displaying the Dolby Sound logo. It's not very noticable unless you wear headphones for the event. The most ammount of stereo play is during the montage sequence of "Hammersmith To Odeon and Back" ("Backbeat") and Dave's solo on their slightly reprogrammed "Beat Box" rendition. Hope I cleared things up, at least, a little. dance or else... : + AON "daft" compiation artisan001 If you don't like it, don't klick on it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: artisan001@webtv.net (james coward) Subject: (ztt) Re: Propaganda Date: 21 Jul 1997 02:04:15 -0500 There has been some confusion about the playlist for A Secret Wish. I have had this problem with other ZTT cuts, as well. At that time, their UK and US releases were usually the same. What I have found -not that I'm making an investigation out of the issiue- is that the playlists are correct for the original releases, but not for reissiues. I, personally feel that this is deliberate. The original issues would, then, have another way of being identified and have more monetary worth this way. FGTH's Welcome to the Pleasuredome (CD) is like this: "the last voice" and "the ballad of 32" (my GOD, what a sultry piece!) are indepenent tracks, but, not listed as such on the playlist. Plus, the original release had the 7" radio edit of "Two Tribes", here, in the US. The re-release has a very long mix, but not quite the 12" extended cut. It also lacks the segue commentary following "Born To Run". "Into Battle With The Art Of Noise" re-issiues lack a *very* short, but, sweet, remix of "Moments In Love" (I contend that this is where Enigma got their idea for "Sadeness". They have the same drum line. It was beautiful!). **As a side note, the 12" single of P-Machinery has "Frozen Faces" on it as a B-side cut. Adding to the confusion, I notice that cassettes do not have this playlist continuity problem. If anyone has a company answer, it would be *greatly* appreciated. artisan001 If you don't like it, don't klick on it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (ztt) Re: AON live (In Visible Silence) Date: 21 Jul 1997 16:55:18 +0100 james coward wrote: > Andy Robinson stated that "Peter Gunn" was not live on the AON concert > video. I have a copy, from PolyGram Video. "Peter Gunn" most certainly > *was* live on mine. It did not sound too terribly live, though... (snip) >The piece opens w/ a direct studio sample of Duane's >galloping start-up and the drum roll. All else was done by Dave Bronze >on a Roland GR-7 MIDI guitar; hence the non-live sound. A good explanation, however it's not what actually happened on that night in Hammersmith (I was there!) Four guitarists were introduced individually by name, and all simultaneously ad-libbed on the theme of Peter Gunn with backing by AoN (heavily featuring Dave Bronze as you described). This made an excellent, very different version of Peter Gunn, (which I later found on a very shoddy bootleg audio tape of that night's show, and was followed with an encore of Glen Miller's "In the Mood", which to the best of my knowledge never surfaced on a commercial release at all.) This bears no relation to the version on my videos (and by the decription, yours too!), which was why I stated that it was not live... it could very well be from the Tokyo performances though but it struck me at the time as a 'fake live version' made by stripping away some tracks from the studio track - what AoN would have mimed to if the fairlight had crashed perhaps? I would also hazard a guess that for the real live version to appear on the video would have required paying these 4 guitarists extra money - hence the version that ended up on the tape? Also of note are the discrepancies in track length on "Hammersmith To Odeon and Back" (aka "Backbeat"/"Beatback") between the bootleg, the "live" video and the even less live LP version - all minutes different in length! When played live at hammersmith, there was lots of heavily separated stereo, notably in the intro to "close to the edit" which had each alternate "vroom" panned hard left then right - very different to my video at least. - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 808boy <808boy@cracl.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: (ztt) oceanhead feat. claudia brucken single.. Date: 24 Jul 1997 15:27:14 GMT 808boy writes: > Oceanhead featuring Claudia Brucken 'Eyemotion' > 1997 UK promo 12" (Land Speed records/EMI, 12 EMDJX 479) > > 'dj promo two' > a. blakkats striptease mix 7.20 > b. medic live dub 6.36 if anyone's interested, i have a spare of this. it cost 5 UKP. if anyone wants to give me that, plus postage and packing to wherever they are, drop me a line. btw, 'esprit' are selling this for 8 UKP, plus they make a profit on the postage charges too, which i won't... i can take payment in USD, as well as UKP, as i'm off to the states in september... ttfn. -- 808boy (aka Smiley) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (ztt) Aon Remixes -- AGAIN? Date: 24 Jul 1997 11:24:20 -0600 (MDT) What's this I hear about a 3CD AoN remix disc out soon? Old stuff, new stuff, anything licensed from ZTT, what? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KGB Subject: Re: (ztt) Aon Remixes -- AGAIN? Date: 24 Jul 1997 11:18:49 -0700 Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > What's this I hear about a 3CD AoN remix disc out soon? > > Old stuff, new stuff, anything licensed from ZTT, what? Old stuff. Here's the listing from http://www.sirencd.com/future.htm: Art Of Noise State Of The Art (3 CD) CD $26.99 CHINA label 3-disc set includes the band's 3 remix albums, "The Ambient Collection", "The Fon Mixes" & "The Drum 'n' Bass Collection" packaged in a limited edition triple digipack. Release Date: 4-Aug-97 Yawn.... KGB. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick S. Daly" Subject: Re: (ztt) Aon Remixes -- AGAIN? Date: 24 Jul 1997 17:21:29 -0700 KGB wrote: > > Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > > > What's this I hear about a 3CD AoN remix disc out soon? > > > > Old stuff, new stuff, anything licensed from ZTT, what? > > Old stuff. > > Here's the listing from http://www.sirencd.com/future.htm: > > Art Of Noise > State Of The Art (3 CD) CD $26.99 CHINA label 3-disc set > includes the band's 3 remix albums, "The Ambient Collection", > "The Fon Mixes" & "The Drum 'n' Bass Collection" packaged in > a limited edition triple digipack. Release Date: 4-Aug-97 > > Yawn.... > > KGB. Triple yawn. ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Pinkerton Subject: (ztt) Slave to the Rhythm Date: 24 Jul 1997 17:08:38 -0700 I enjoy the US CD of Grace Jones' Slave to the Rhythm very much -- and I understand the Europe version of the CD is different with some alternate mixes. Are the differences interesting? Is this other version still in print? Anybody know where I can pick it up? I miss Trevor Horn's BIG PRODUCTION SOUND -- I'm forced to go back to his earlier releases 'cause his new stuff is so conventional and dull. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark.Farrington@reedbooks.co.uk Subject: (ztt) (ZTT) New guy, and ACT Date: 25 Jul 1997 14:49:34 +0100 Hi, I'm new to this list, my name is Mark and I'm a cartographer from England. I've been into ZTT stuff (ACT Propaganda especially) for some years and have a few albums and singles and would now like some more rare CD's for my collection. A few couple of questions please: Does anyone know where I can get a copy of ACT's Laughter,Tears and Rage (ZQCD1) ? If not - How rare is this disc and is it difficult to obtain ? Thanks for your time..... Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark wasiel Subject: Re: (ztt) Propaganda Date: 26 Jul 1997 11:58:20 -0700 Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > Ok, I have a really involved question about Propaganda's "A Secret > > Wish." I live in the U.S., and to my knowledge, there have been two > > > releases of A Secret Wish here (one by WEA and the other by PGD). > Both, > > unfortunately, do not have the correct tracks on them. > > This depends very heavily on your definition of "correct tracks". The > US > CD(s) of A Secret Wish all track exactly as the LP version did, though > they > do have the wrong tracklist printed on the back. Technically, this is true. However, during the early releases of A Secret Wish in the States, the track listing did match the CD. The reason? CD production wasn't really up to par in the States once CD's first came out so many early CD releases were overseas versions released with a US longbox (remember those?). Apparently, once the production changed over to the US, they kept the same album artwork not knowing (or caring?) that the track listing had changed. Mark, CD historian. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joerg Fitzner" Subject: Re: (ztt) Slave to the Rhythm Date: 30 Jul 1997 15:24:00 +0000 On Jul 24, 5:08pm, Brian Pinkerton wrote: > I enjoy the US CD of Grace Jones' Slave to the Rhythm very much -- and I > understand the Europe version of the CD is different with some alternate > mixes. Are the differences interesting? Is this other version still in > print? Anybody know where I can pick it up? IHMO, the US version is *much* better than the European one. The latter lacks all those atmospheric interview fragments and mostly contaions only shorter versions of the actual songs. The only rational reason to get it, is the longer version of 'The Frog and The Princess'. But rationality isn't exactly at the right place when dealing with ZTT, or with music in general. Personally I would really miss this version! In fact, it's only 30 seconds prolonged - but what should I say: it's good old ZTT/TCH! However, I think it's still in print in Europe. Within the 'Island Masters' series. I know of the following issues: - United Kingdom, Island: IMCD 65 - Germany, Island(/Ariola-BMG): 258 505-217 / CID 4011 > I miss Trevor Horn's BIG PRODUCTION SOUND -- I'm forced to go back to his > earlier releases 'cause his new stuff is so conventional and dull. I guess you should order it... ;-) Best Regards Joerg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender.