From: 808boy <808boy@cracl.demon.co.uk> Subject: (ztt) new 'art of silence' single...? Date: 01 Aug 1997 15:14:21 GMT picked up a single today that i haven't seen before, or even mentioned on the list. details below: Art of Silence 'Teach Me' 1997 UK 12" (axiomatic records, ax 004, purple die-cut sleeve) a1. vocal mix a2. e.f.h. mix b1. the clean and serene remix by mantra b2. instrumental anyone else know about this? if not, i'll give it a play over the weekend, and get back to you.. c-ya. -- 808boy (aka Smiley) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Brown Subject: (ztt) artofsilence web Date: 01 Aug 1997 08:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Speaking of Art of Silence, looks like they lost their domain name. Any idea if they moved that (awful) web site to a new location? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (ztt) Discography Updated Date: 08 Aug 1997 21:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Long-overdue update now available: -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark wasiel Subject: (ztt) No Sh**! NEW AON ALBUM COMING!! Date: 11 Aug 1997 22:07:55 -0700 Sorry for my harsh language but read this news I just picked off of Lol Creme's web site http://www.lolster.com/ ************** Currently, Lol is working on a new musical project with record producer Trevor Horn. Trevor has brought Anne Dudley and Paul Morley together again and the four of them are producing a new Art Of Noise album. As well as doing the music, Lol is responsible for the visuals. There will be long and short form videos and adaptations for the web and all the multimedia formats that are worth playing with. Recordings have been going on for the past 18 months both at Trevor's studios in Oxfordshire and in London and the first single will be completed here in Los Angeles over the summer months. The album will hopefully be released this Christmas. The musical idea behind the album is to fuse the modern "drum and bass" rhythms coming out of London with adaptations of songs written by classical composer Claude Debussy at the turn of this century. One of the visual ideas is to bring to life the Black Lady, a character who regularly appears in Lol's artwork, as the virtual lead vocalist, Miss Euphoria Bliss! She is currently being built in three dimensions in the computer and will be animated by a new motion capture system, which is today's state-of-the-art technology and is still very much in development. On the website front, serious R&D (research and development) is underway. We would like the medium to broadcast moving pictures and a variety of sounds and music but the technology is still in it's infancy and it will take time before full motion, high-quality pictures + good quality music can be made easily and cheaply available. However, we will update the site in any interesting way we can within the limitations of the medium. ************ Needless to say, I'm really excited. I'm especially glad to hear they are in L.A. finishing the album. Maybe I'll run into them! Trevor finally got around to that Debussy project he's been talking about since...geez, wasn't it that interview with Newsweek back in 83 or 84? I guess J.J.'s not involved. But I think that's OK because he's more into the progressive-house thing with his Art Of Silence. Now, where's Gary Langan at?! -Mark P.S. I did hear that Seal was seen at the Virgin Megastore in Hollywood last week. BTW, he has a new album that is supposed to be out by the end of this year as well but I haven't heard many details. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: (ztt) 808 State FINALLY released in USA? Date: 12 Aug 1997 00:15:07 -0700 According to CDNOW.com, "Don Solaris" will be released under the Hypnotic Label on 19 August. We'll see... Thanks, CRZ -- Christopher Robin Zimmerman The new Number Two (Aimnet Employee Longevity List, and "The Prisoner" TV show) -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCM/CS/M d--(+) s+: a- C+$ US++++$ P-(--+) L- E(+++) W++(-) N+++$ o? K++ !w !O M++$ V(--) PS+++ PE Y PGP+ t++ !5 !X R--* tv+ b+ DI+++ !D---- G>++++ e++* h+()* r--* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark wasiel Subject: (ztt) Seal & Back To The Future? Date: 15 Aug 1997 21:19:35 -0700 I don't think this has been discussed before, but haven't you always wondered what those samples were playing in the background of Violet on Seal's first album? Well, I certainly have, but up until today I've never really been able to make any of them out. For some reason, while listening to the CD with headphones at work, I heard the first passage at around 2:45. Needless to say I was stunned when I realized that it was from Back To The Future. I think it's the first one, but I'm not positive. Maybe it's the 3rd. I dunno. It's just weird to hear Doc and Marty talking. They say something like: "I shouldn't have come! I was supposed to die back there, but I didn't. It would have affected time. Don't worry.......that I'm not like anyone else." Well, if someone knows this scene or has the movie, I'd like to hear it all. It's hard to make out in the song. Anyone recognize any of the other clips in the track? AON excited, Mark Wasiel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark wasiel Subject: (ztt) Hans Zimmer?? Date: 15 Aug 1997 21:35:12 -0700 OK. Where is the evidence that Hans Zimmer had anything to do with Bruce Wooley & The Camera Club and/or the Buggles? I have both Buggles albums and the Bruce Wooley one and there is no mention of Hans Zimmer. Does anyone have any info on where this came about? Thanks, Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Heinzeroth Subject: (ztt) AON Box Set Date: 15 Aug 1997 23:43:47 -0500 While browsing a table at a record show last weekend, I came upon the 3-CD Art Of Noise Box set (includes FON Mixes, Ambient Collection, & Drum/Bass Collection). It came in a silver tri-fold package and cost $32. I am utterly amazed at the depths China will sink to in order to make money from AON's back catalogue. Talk about silly. Not only were the three discs unremarkable when they were first released (IMHO), Drum & Bass was just released a little bit ago. A bit too soon to include it in a box set I should think. Needless to say, I didn't pick it up. Oh well, let's keep our fingers crossed for NEW Art Of Noise material. COMING SOON FROM CHINA: The Drum & Bass Anniversary CD release! That's right - celebrate the 6 month release of Art Of Noise's Drum & Bass Collection with this brand new release! Completely different catalog number! Don't pass this up! -- Visit my SYNTHPOP page with over 1,200 examples synthpop cover art! http://www.swcp.com/blakeh/synthpop.htm Email: blakeh@ix.netcom.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian Peel" Subject: (ztt) AON Box Set Date: 18 Aug 1997 04:46:27 EDT *** Resending note of 16/08/97 05:41 Hi Folks... I couldn't resist coming back on the ZTT list to check out what's going down... >I am utterly amazed at the depths China will sink to in order to make >money >from AON's back catalogue. Talk about silly. Not only were the three >discs unremarkable when they were first released (IMHO), Drum & Bass was >just released a little bit ago. A bit too soon to include it in a box >I should think. I was also surprised when I saw this one come through... It's only saving grace is that (in the UK at least) it will retail at the same price as a standard CD, so anyone that hasn;t investigated the mixes series can listen to them all for minimal cost. Those that have bought the originals shouldn't be disheartened as now that State Of The Art (the box set) is now out all the original remix LPs will be deleted... Ian Peel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (ztt) Hans Zimmer?? Date: 18 Aug 1997 11:54:25 -0600 (MDT) > OK. Where is the evidence that Hans Zimmer had anything to do with > Bruce Wooley & The Camera Club and/or the Buggles? I have both Buggles > albums and the Bruce Wooley one and there is no mention of Hans Zimmer. I don't know what you're referring to in the specific, but Zimmer *was* involved with the soundtracks to Toys and Insignificance, the former of which was a TCH production and latter of which was issued on ZTT . . . To be fair, none of the Woolley/Buggles releases I have give *any* useful production information. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Bortz Subject: (ztt) 808 State US album Date: 19 Aug 1997 13:40:56 -0400 Hello everyone. Well, I must tell everyone about the US 808 State album. I received 2 copies in the mail today from the Cleopatra promotion company. The first cd is in a hard jewel case. The cover is the same as the UK, but it is a much darker red. The UK sleeve is more reddish brown. It has a big 808 butterfly logo at the bottom of the front cover and 808 State Don Solaris below that. The words and logo are white. Thats the only difference between the US and UK sleeves. The back cover is the same picture as one of the pictures in the UK sleeve. Fig. 4: Repair. The booklet is not as big, but it has a few pictures and the track listing. The cd is the same except it has ZTT logo and the Hypnotic logo on it. No bonus tracks! Sorry. I wish too. The second cd is a paperboard album! Same cover, but it says at the top :Featuring vocal performances by members of Soul Coughing & Manic Street Preachers. The back cover is all brown. No pic. sleeve on the back. This one may be a promo copy because it says at the bottom of the back cover: 808 State Don Solaris "The forthcoming Hypnotic Recordings Release". However, it has the same catalog numbers as the other cd which is CLP 0094-2. Its a really cool album and everyone should pick it up! Cheers, Josh "808 State is O'so GREAT!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian Peel" Subject: (ztt) Hans Zimmer?? Date: 20 Aug 1997 04:33:05 EDT *** Resending note of 18/08/97 18:56 >I don't know what you're referring to in the specific, but Zimmer *was* >involved with the soundtracks to Toys and Insignificance, the former of >which was a TCH production and latter of which was issued on ZTT . . . Toys was of course issued on ZTT in the UK, but something that's always intrigued me are discography entries for the album which have a very different track listing to that issue (more orchestral score?)? Spotted something about it on hans zimmer's www site some time ago I think. Does anyone have the definitive word on this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (ztt) Hans Zimmer?? Date: 21 Aug 1997 13:03:27 -0600 (MDT) >> I don't know what you're referring to in the specific, but Zimmer *was* >> involved with the soundtracks to Toys and Insignificance, the former of >> which was a TCH production and latter of which was issued on ZTT . . . > > Toys was of course issued on ZTT in the UK, but something that's always > intrigued me are discography entries for the album which have a very > different track listing to that issue (more orchestral score?)? > Spotted something about it on hans zimmer's www site some time ago I > think. Does anyone have the definitive word on this? I suspect that Zimmer's site is listing all the songs that were used in the movie, not just the ones on the soundtrack album. The catalog number listed on the site is the stock US CD release, which as far as I know is identical to the UK one. As part of looking for the site I ran across a number of sites that credit Zimmer as producer of "The Age Of Plastic" and one interview in which he claims flat out to have been a member of the band. All news to me, but like I said, none of my Buggles releases have any meaningful credits on them. He also mentions being an assistant to Stanley Myers of "Insignificance" relevance, of course. Zimmer Site: Interview: Bio: -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Cowen Subject: Re: (ztt) Hans Zimmer?? Date: 21 Aug 1997 18:37:17 -0500 At 01:03 PM 8/21/97 -0600, you wrote: Boy was -that- stupid. I just sent this to the KLF list (whose alias is right next to the ZTT list). >As part of looking for the site I ran across a number of sites that credit >Zimmer as producer of "The Age Of Plastic" and one interview in which he >claims flat out to have been a member of the band. All news to me, but like >I said, none of my Buggles releases have any meaningful credits on them. For what it's worth, my copy of "Adventures in Modern Recording" on vinyl has rather complete credits. Hans Zimmer doesn't appear to have been part of the band back in 1981: TCH and John Sinclair/Geoff Downes have the production credits, and such common Zang players as Anne Dudley, Gary Langan, Louis Jardim, Bruce Wooley and Simon Darlow also show up in the credits. My guess, if Zimmer claimed to be a member of "the band", he was greatly overstating his presence. signed: ESCHATFISCHE, david h t t p : / /w w w . f i s c h e . c o m (esch@fische.com) -------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Boaz Halachmi" Subject: (ztt) Discography Staff Date: 25 Aug 1997 22:37:51 +0300 Hello everyone. After going over Lazlo`s new discography and over my stuff, i have some things to add to you all: 1. Art Of Noise: Who`s Afraid... LP I got this one. It`s not on the list: CD: 1994 US (Island; 422-842 473-2) [masks on marble ps] 2. FGTH: WTTP LP I got this one ( "?" as on the list): CD: 198? DE (ZTT/Island; 610 195-231) ["Island-framed" back cover] The full year is 1984. 3. FGTH: WTTP 7" On the list you have... 7": 1985 UK (ZTT; ZTAS 7 {A-1U}{B-2U}) 7": 1985 UK (ZTT; ZTAS 7 {A-2U}{B-2U}) 4:20 Welcome To The Pleasuredome (altered real) 3:28 Get It On (longer version) 3:47 Happy Hi! (fade) ...and i have 7": 1985 UK (ZTT;ZTAS 7 {A-1U} {B-1U}) 4. FGTH: WTTP 12" I have this one... 12": 1985 UK (ZTT/Island; 12 ZTAS 7 {A-5U} {B-1U}) 9:15 Welcome To The Pleasuredome (real altered) 3:28 Get It On (longer version) 4:04 Happy Hi! 4:51 Relax (international) ...which is different from the ones on the list. 5. FGTH: The computer game Well, I have it. It`s the SINCLAIR ZX SPECTRUM 48K version. (There was also the Commodore 64 version). It have the Relax (International) cassette. The name of the game is : "Welcome To The Plesuregame". There is no Cat. No., but the barcode is 5 013156 010019 This is a great game and i can still play it (the ZXSpectrum still works!) By the way - there was a free FGTH poster offer in the game - anyone got it? Hope this is some help to you all. Regards and Shalom, Boaz halachmi Israel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian Peel" Subject: (ztt) Discography Staff Date: 26 Aug 1997 05:11:09 EDT Nice to see the Promo Items section at the bottom of the discography, I thought I'd add some info on some interesting bits and pieces I have accumulated over the years... ZTT Ten (promo long sleeve t-shirt) - this was given away free to partygoers at ZTT's Tenth Anniversary party in 1993. Round Z logo on the front, ZTT TEN on the back. Very stylish. I still wear it! ZTT Ten (promo paper bag) if memory serves correctly, the t-sirts weregiven away in the paper bag, which also included a copy of Zance. The A-Z of ZTT (a four page biography I wrote in '92) was to be used on the sides of the bag or as an insert, but this was shelved due to funding problems... Promo Posters - I also came away with a few 'extra' items from the ZTT Ten party... The foyer to the club was covered in ZTT promo posters and - in my drunken state at the end of the night - I decided to take them home with me (not too difficult as being one of the last to leave, there were few people about, and most thought I was tidying up!) I came away with various posters including hugh 5ftx3ft ones for Prayer For The Dying, Crazy, Relax, Welcome TTP, Gorgeous and smaller ones for Honky, Tara, MC Tunes, Seal Live at the Point etc.. The Crazy poster is especially interesting as it has an address label stuck to the back - having been sent from WEA to Seal himself, C/O SARM! Bang! (small red promo stickers used to promote the Relax re-issue) ZTT also had these platestered around London and few a few weeks they were highly visible. FGTH logo badges (replicas of the front of the Greatest Hits cover) before these appeared in the Power Of Love box set, several thousand were made up for general promo use. Ian Peel - Media Relations Consultant IBM PC Company UK Internal telephone: 7-314173 Telephone: +44 1256 344173 Facs: +44 1256 364607 Internet Email: ian_peel@uk.ibm.com *** Forwarding note from I9665237--IBMMAIL 25/08/97 23:35 *** Hello everyone. After going over Lazlo`s new discography and over my stuff, i have some things to add to you all: 1. Art Of Noise: Who`s Afraid... LP I got this one. It`s not on the list: CD: 1994 US (Island; 422-842 473-2) Ymasks on marble ps? 2. FGTH: WTTP LP I got this one ( "?" as on the list): CD: 198? DE (ZTT/Island; 610 195-231) Y"Island-framed" back cover? The full year is 1984. 3. FGTH: WTTP 7" On the list you have... 7": 1985 UK (ZTT; ZTAS 7 {A-1U}{B-2U}) 7": 1985 UK (ZTT; ZTAS 7 {A-2U}{B-2U}) 4:20 Welcome To The Pleasuredome (altered real) 3:28 Get It On (longer version) 3:47 Happy Hi! (fade) ...and i have 7": 1985 UK (ZTT;ZTAS 7 {A-1U} {B-1U}) 4. FGTH: WTTP 12" I have this one... 12": 1985 UK (ZTT/Island; 12 ZTAS 7 {A-5U} {B-1U}) 9:15 Welcome To The Pleasuredome (real altered) 3:28 Get It On (longer version) 4:04 Happy Hi! 4:51 Relax (international) ...which is different from the ones on the list. 5. FGTH: The computer game Well, I have it. It`s the SINCLAIR ZX SPECTRUM 48K version. (There was also the Commodore 64 version). It have the Relax (International) cassette. The name of the game is : "Welcome To The Plesuregame". There is no Cat. No., but the barcode is 5 013156 010019 This is a great game and i can still play it (the ZXSpectrum still works!) By the way - there was a free FGTH poster offer in the game - anyone got it? Hope this is some help to you all. Regards and Shalom, Boaz halachmi Israel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ---- End of mail text Additional SMTP headers from original mail item follow: Received: from mail.xmission.com by E-MAIL.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 25 Aug 97 18:36:31 EDT Received: from domo by mail.xmission.com with local (Exim 1.62 #4) id 0x37gl-0002g3-00; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 16:32:47 -0600 Received: from mail.iol.co.il Y192.116.192.30? (root) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #4) id 0x37gZ-0002dy-00; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 16:32:42 -0600 Received: from euronet.euronet (rish-b31.access.net.il Y192.116.203.154?) by mail.iol.co.il (8.8.6/8.8.6/PA) with ESMTP id BAA17988 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 01:27:50 +0300 Message-Id: <199708252227.BAA17988@mail.iol.co.il> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ztt@xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: av578@lafn.org (James Dawson) Subject: (ztt) Anne Pigalle, Where Are You? Date: 26 Aug 1997 14:21:22 -0700 After too many months away from the ZTT list, I'm back with a request. Every six months or so I throw the following question out like a desperate message in a bottle, hoping someone new will see it and be able to provide me with some information: Whatever happened to Anne Pigalle? I loved her ZTT album "Everything Could Be So Perfect" and the two 12" singles ("Why Does It Have To Be This Way" and "He Stranger"). But what has she done since then? Anything? Did she change careers? Join a group? Retire to a French villa? And is there a direct e-mail address for ZTT itself, where I might be able to ask someone at the label? I would love to find out if there are any other albums or singles by her, but she seems to have dropped off the face of the earth after 1985. Also: Were CD versions of her 12" singles ever released? I have both of them on vinyl (although I do have her album on CD). Thanks! --James Dawson av578@lafn.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: av578@lafn.org (James Dawson) Subject: Re: (ztt) Anne Pigalle, Where Are You? Date: 26 Aug 1997 22:42:56 -0700 At 09:44 PM 8/26/97 -0500, duelist wrote: >I understand that she is performing in Los Angeles at some nightclub rather >regularly now. I will forward anymore info I can find. Uh...why do I have the feeling that my leg is being pulled? (File under "this news sounds way too good to be anywhere near true.") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt