From: Coen van de Geest Subject: RE: (ztt) Supreme Records Date: 02 Mar 1998 12:33:43 +0100 >Hi everyone, Hi there. >Does anyone out there know the Label 'Supreme Records'? Never heard of, sorry :) >I've just bought second-hand for a few pounds the Mel & Kim >album F.L.M. from the mid/late eighties. >Incidentally I say mid/late eighties as this was issued without any date >on the sleeve or cassette! It was around 1987, I think. Somewhere after the Liverpool release, I think. The album might be released in the summer of '87. God, why do I know this?? :-) >What I'm wondering (as I don't have too much background knowledge) is >whether this label has (or has had) anything to do with ZTT? >I ask this because this (cassette) issue is 'ZCSU2', and I know that the >Propaganda 'A Secret Wish' cassette is 'ZCIQ3'... It might have had some relation to "U2" too :) I think it's just co-incidence. >Thanks, >John. Greetz Coen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soeren Larsen Subject: Re: (ztt) Soren's fantastic mp3! Date: 02 Mar 1998 09:02:13 +0100 (MET) OK. Here's a translation: It may sound like Trevor Horn used a massive selection of different effects on this track. But most of them is en fact sampled from an old jazz funk record called Kool Is Back made by a band called Funk Inc. For sure one of the World Famous Supream Teams favorite breaks from their radio show. Originally it sounds like this.... It's this break that has delivered the incredibly shape trumpet sound as we heard as the intro [???] of Owner of a Lonely Heart. And it the same loop that used on the incredibly effective break down in the middle of the track. It's this I'm talking about.... Then Trevor was ready to make this almost genius engineering musical piece he faced a single problem. As you remember his very primitive sampler was only able to sample one second at a time [he told earlier]. So forget everything about looping drum beats as you would have done at this time here in the 90'es. Instead he took three small pieces of the Funk Inc. beat. The trumpet as you heard before.... A one second piece of the drums which sounds like this.... And another piece of the drums which sounds like this.... And when he connected these three pieces together it sounded like this.... Errr perhaps not that impressive. But if you own good creative skills of using different effects, reverb and compressors. Then you can make the beat sound like a lot more. I gave our technician Peter an hour to play with the sounds. And I'm sure that Trevor Horn spend several days on the thing. But in just an hour it's possible to make it sound like this.... PS. Kool Is Back is from an LP titled Funk Inc. released in 1971 on Prestige. Who wouldn't love to have a copy. || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| || | | || sorenl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (ztt) Supreme Records Date: 02 Mar 1998 11:29:24 -0700 (MST) > What I'm wondering (as I don't have too much background knowledge) is > whether this label has (or has had) anything to do with ZTT? > I ask this because this (cassette) issue is 'ZCSU2', and I know that the > Propaganda 'A Secret Wish' cassette is 'ZCIQ3'...Is there any > relationship between the two as I know that usually no two different > labels have the same numbering system. Is there any indiction as to whether the Mel & Kim album was distributed by Island? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (ztt) Supreme Records Date: 02 Mar 1998 16:30:36 +0100 graphicdesignstudent'98 wrote: > > Hi everyone, > Does anyone out there know the Label 'Supreme Records'? It was the in-house label of 80s production team Stock Aitken & Waterman - famed for churning out hit records at an alarming rate for a vast number of artists of dubious talent... they wrote No.1 hits for Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, their studio tea boy Rick Astley, etc. > I've just bought second-hand for a few pounds the Mel & Kim > album F.L.M. ...This album has great characteritic sounds from the > Fairlight sequencer Actually, the sounds shared with ZTT are mostly PPG Waveterm samples (if my ears don't decieve me) - another 8-bit sampler of extreme age & cost. Also, the Roland 727 drum machine which was heavily used on "Watching the Wildlife" was also a favourite of S.A.W. > What I'm wondering (as I don't have too much background knowledge) > is whether this label has (or has had) anything to do with ZTT? Well, apart from them both essentially being outlets for a production team rather than a roster of artistes, the strongest connection that I know of is that the first ever Stock, Aitken Waterman track was "The Upstroke" by Agents Aren't Aeroplanes - which had a cover mimicking the Relax "Two Bodies" picture, but featuring the 2 girls in the band. > I ask this because this (cassette) issue is 'ZCSU2', and I know that > the Propaganda 'A Secret Wish' cassette is 'ZCIQ3'...Is there any > relationship between the two? This is probably just a coincidence. - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Henrik Lundstrom" Subject: Re: (ztt) Supreme Records Date: 03 Mar 1998 12:22:33 +0100 > > I've just bought second-hand for a few pounds the Mel & Kim > > album F.L.M. ...This album has great characteritic sounds from the > > Fairlight sequencer > > Actually, the sounds shared with ZTT are mostly PPG Waveterm samples (if > my ears don't decieve me) - another 8-bit sampler of extreme age & cost. > Also, the Roland 727 drum machine which was heavily used on "Watching > the Wildlife" was also a favourite of S.A.W. You can hear the PPG on a lot of ZTT stuff, often superbly programmed by Andy Richards (I've got a PPG Waveterm B, and I recognise many of the factyory sounds). SAW used the PPG in their pre-fairlight (ie pre-1987) days. A lot of Fairlight CMI Series III samples can also be heard on both ZTT and SAW productions (I will soon get a new HD to the CMI, end then I can check the whole sound library). Another common machine is the Linndrum - haevily used on both SAW and ZTT recordings. h. Henrik Lundstroem (k94068@chestud.chalmers.se) Chemistry student at Chalmers University of Technology. Stalivari shout "HEUREKA!!" as the signal for invention par excellence http://berzelius.chestud.chalmers.se/~k94068/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Till Teuber" Subject: (ztt) Holly live at G.A.Y Date: 04 Mar 1998 11:20:11 +100 Holly has been singing live in London's Astoria G.A.Y Nightclub on Febuary 14th '98 (Valentines Night). It was hillarious atmosphere, over 2000 people where chereing Holly on: "HOLLY, HOLLY!", when he left the stage after 6 songs. He startetd of with "Love Train", folowed by "Americanos" and "The Power of Love". Encores: "RELAX!", "Two Tribes" and finaly "Legendary Children (all of them queer)"! Don`t miss his next P.A. will be in the german nightclub KOENIGSBERG in KREFELD (near Cologne/Duesseldorf; Germany). Till # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE_REARDON@HP-Andover-om3.om.hp.com Subject: (ztt) More Claudia info Date: 05 Mar 1998 07:58:38 -0500 Hello everyone; I was exploring the web today, and came across the following URL: http://www.kgb.co.uk/~skuds/spizz/ssinbala.html Apparently Claudia did vocals on a song called "In Balance" with a group called Lifestyle back in 1994. I don't recall seeing anything about this in the discography. Does anyone know anything about this?? As if there weren't already enough obscure Claudia recordings to chase, now it appears there's another one. Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "simon.wade" Subject: (ztt) welcome to me! Date: 09 Mar 1998 10:28:24 +0000 (GMT) I don't know how many other ztt fans there are out there, but 'hello' none-the-less! I'm a mature student at The University of Sunderland, my hometown in north-east England. Back in '84, I was crazy for FGTH, and that lead me on to Propaganda and all things ZTT. I still play all their stuff at home! Currently, I'm doing an essay on the ausio-visual experience that is the video for Two tribes - one of the most powerful and compelling clips ever produced. Godley and Creme at their best! If any of you guys n gals have any interesting facts / theories or just plain trivia about the video, would you get back to me so I can bolster my assignment? At the moment, it just reads like a crazy fan writing an appreciation of FGTH!! regards and respect simon w # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Coen van de Geest Subject: RE: (ztt) welcome to me! Date: 09 Mar 1998 16:17:38 +0100 >I don't know how many other ztt fans there are out there, but 'hello' >none-the-less! Hi there :) >If any of you guys n gals have any interesting facts / theories or just >plain trivia about the video, would you get back to me so I can bolster >my assignment? At the moment, it just reads like a crazy fan writing an >appreciation of FGTH!! Well, not really intersting, but there was a newsitem about violence in video clips back then, and they showed parts of the Two Tribes video (it was on Dutch TV). But I think you already know that :-) >simon w Greetz Coen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (ztt) Release, Do It! Date: 10 Mar 1998 01:22:36 +0100 Joerg Fitzner wrote: > > > x.xx Andrew Poppy: Inside The Wolf > > what's this? > > A friend of mine's got an acetate 12" of it. I've never heard it, > but he said it's from his ZTT era, made for some TV show. This would probably be classic 80s pop show "the Tube", which credited Poppy for theme music (at least for 1 of the tunes it used over the years)... ZTT said at the time it would never be released, and I have never heard of any acetates escaping from ZTT until now. - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Subject: (ztt) Holly Johnson Date: 09 Mar 1998 21:44:20 -0500 Thanks to all who sent in questions. I think I covered all of them, all apologies if I did not. I am editing the interview, which is great thanks to the charming (and verbose!) Mr. Johnson. As just a peak- about working again with Trevor Horn- He says he would for sure, but doubts (for obvious reasons ) that the opportunity would arise. It will be printed in full in the next issue of Lexicon. thanks -Dave ps- those who did send me questions, please dorp me your snail mail address so I can send you a copy of the mag -Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Wasiel" Subject: (ztt) ZTT sampled (for real!) Date: 10 Mar 1998 18:57:58 -0800 There is a new Warp single out that has a sample of Andrew Poppy's "The Object is a Hungry Wolf". The sample is from near the beginning of the second index marking off of the original issue (did the reissue retain the index marking for the first track?). The sample is lightly in the background near the end. TUNDRA, Max: Children At Play (Warp 12": WAP 101 [4.33]. CD: WAP 101CD [4.33]) Vital ZTT, start your lawyers! Sorry Warp :(. Mark Wasiel http://www.pcmagic.net/markw Home of A New Stereophonic Sound Spectacular: The Pizzicato Five Discography # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david richards Subject: (ztt) Holly Johnson Date: 11 Mar 1998 09:22:22 -0500 Hi again, I have gotten a couple of inqueries as to Holly Johnson's health. He said that he is feeling much better. ANd also, judging from the recnt photo that he sent I would say he looks very healthy indeed. Thanks -David Richards Lexicon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joerg Fitzner Subject: (ztt) Daz on MTV Date: 11 Mar 1998 17:21:37 +0100 (MET) I don't know about you people, but I was thinking it got a bit quiet about 808 State in the last few month. So I was happy to see Darren Partington sitting on the sofa when turning on MTV's Partyzone on Friday (well, Saturday actually). Unfortunately I had already missed nearly the complete show, but it gave a good reason to surf to WWW.808STATE.COM just now... ...to find out it wasn't that quite all the time and that none other label than zet tee tea is planning to release a new (remix) single and a Best-Of album of them! (And I thought they had split!) Hey, you should have given us a hint, GlobalState...! ;-) At least before the Partyzone show. What news did Daz tell on the show? However, I've been told they didn't show a video for Pacific 98. Cheers Joerg P.S.: Is it really true? ZTT don't even mention 808 State on their website! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soeren Larsen Subject: Re: (ztt) Daz on MTV Date: 13 Mar 1998 14:27:36 +0100 (MET) > Hey, you should have given us a hint, GlobalState...! ;-) At least > before the Partyzone show. What news did Daz tell on the show? > However, I've been told they didn't show a video for Pacific 98. They didn't show anything by 808 :-< Try tonight. DAZ didn't tell anything about the release other than that they do it to close a chapter of 808 State to start a new one. The CD will have some remixes on. He said that they will release some new singles over the summer and maybe an album at the end of 1998. We'll see..... || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| || | | || sorenl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matheas Subject: (ztt) hello / new member .. Date: 14 Mar 1998 04:24:50 -0500 Hello, I am a new member to the ztt mail-newsgroup. My name is matheas . Pronounced muh-THAY-us. This is both my stage name, and the name I am actually called.. I am an "aspiring" recording artist. I found my way to this mailing list because I had always admired "whoever" produced Seal's first 2 albums. I had heard a bit of the story (not much-- I'd like to know who discovered whom etc.,.. feel free to email me or post it) of Seal's start with his producer, and I have gotten to that same point in my lifetime. So I hopped on the internet to find out who it was and maybe track him down. Or find a good competent Producer along the way... instant hits on some guy named Trevor Horn, which struck a bell. I was surprised to see whole websites dedicated to him and his work! These sites refreshed my memory that he had worked on some of my favorite music (pet shop boys for one) and worked on other music for which I'd always admired the production more than the song itself.. even before I knew what a producer 'was'. He seems to be a busy guy and I don't even know if I'd trust him (after reading some stuff about him here in the archives).. but I am looking for a major-label producer.. I'll work on it, and to stray in to offtopicville you are all welcome to notify me of contacts of competent producers. I like Seal, am a solo male artist who has strong melody in acoustic post-alternative style and then some.. It does seem 'awfully quiet' in here. Lucky I didn't subscribe to the Digest! :) Well, I'll be off. Let me know .. and thanx. cheers, matheas . york, pennsylvania, USA. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matheas Subject: (ztt) does Trev read this mailer?? Date: 14 Mar 1998 04:27:04 -0500 Does Trevor Horn even read this newsgroup? I would if I had an email newsgroup in my honor.. maybe he's too 'busy'.. I hope he does, it seems the human thing to do. I Read he doesn't use a computer, though... so much for being a tech-head.. matheas . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soeren Larsen Subject: (ztt) Retro Active Date: 15 Mar 1998 16:39:34 +0100 (MET) Unfortunetly I couldn't watch it, So did MTV show some 808 State this Friday 13., or not? || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| |# #|@| # |@#||@ || | | || |@ || | || || #| || | | || sorenl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Mgnt Subject: (ztt) Finally. Date: 17 Mar 1998 11:07:20 EST So, after, what, three years I finally managed to get a copy of Holly's Bone In My Flute. http://www.bibliofind.com/ is where I found it for those still looking. The place I found it at still has it listed here. I don't know if they have more than one copy or they just dont update regularly, but I felt I should share the resource with others. -paul "The White Zone is for loading and unloading only. If you need to load or unload go to the White Zone." LAX prerecorded voice # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Markus Arnold Subject: (ztt) Pacific'98 Date: 17 Mar 1998 23:01:20 +0100 Soren wrote: >Unfortunetly I couldn't watch it, >So did MTV show some 808 State this Friday 13., or not? Yes, it was shown right at the beginning of the show. The video was made by the MTV Partyzone Massive and was a sort of medley of loads of different 808 video clips - very fast moving. I'm not sure if this will also be the official video when Pacific'98 gets the commercial release. Markus www.808state.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDn?= Subject: (ztt) Frankie Fan Date: 13 Mar 1998 22:38:55 +0100 Hi, My name is Tony and I'm a Frankie fan. someone told me I could be informed here about Frankie and especially Holly. Is he going to release anything soon? Thnaks for the info # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew B Subject: (ztt) ZTT: the tue... Date: 15 Mar 1998 01:03:28 -0800 (PST) Here (Canada's MTV), we had a weekly best-of, recently, entitled "Best of 'The Tube'", hosted by (I'm assuming) two of the original hosts (a guy and girl). I have a few on tape. Is there anyone out there who has any original ones or any of the 'Best-Of's? An aside: my favourite is one featuring an 'up and coming band, FGTH', complete in leather bar attire (still with dancing girls) at some obscure club. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Guy B Phipps" Subject: (ztt) New ZTT Site..... Date: 17 Mar 1998 19:28:52 -0800 The initial pages are now going up for my new ZTT site - ZTT 'remembered' http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3223/ follow the link.. It will cover the early years 1983-1988 (the best period in my opinion) Please give me feedback as the site progresses. df118@email.msn.com If you have any scans for rare items, or rare items to trade (especially an original or copy of Ambassador's live video/LD and any videos for these early groups except FGTH) that are not on the pages, please e-mail me so we can work out a deal. Thankyou, Guy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Henrik Lundstrom" Subject: Re: (ztt) New ZTT Site..... Date: 18 Mar 1998 09:00:39 +0100 > The initial pages are now going up for my new ZTT site - ZTT 'remembered' > > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3223/ > > follow the link.. > > It will cover the early years 1983-1988 (the best period in my opinion) > > Please give me feedback as the site progresses. I haven't checked the pages yet, but if they are as good as your Discographica pages I would say that they are brilliant! BTW, I've got loads of ZTT ads from melody Maker/NME/Record Mirror/The Face (mostly photocopies, I'm afraid). We've finally got a public scanner here at school, so I can scan them (or at least some of them...) if you want me to. henrik Henrik Lundstroem (k94068@chestud.chalmers.se) Chemistry student at Chalmers University of Technology. Stalivari shout "HEUREKA!!" as the signal for invention par excellence http://berzelius.chestud.chalmers.se/~k94068/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Hamilton Subject: (ztt) Billboard article on Trevor Date: 18 Mar 1998 22:35:25 -0500 There is a really nice article in the current (21 March 1998) issue of Billboard magazine ("Pop Maven Horn Shows Staying Power As One Of The Industry's Top Producers" by Ben Cromer). Hit the newsstand and grab yourself a copy ($5.95 in the USA / =A34.95 in the UK). I'll type it up if anyone asks politely. Jeff Hamilton - the capitalist Prepare yourself for Jetlag http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftBank/5028/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joerg Fitzner Subject: Re: (ztt) Pacific'98 Date: 19 Mar 1998 15:31:59 +0100 (MET) Markus wrote: > Soren wrote: > >Unfortunetly I couldn't watch it, > >So did MTV show some 808 State this Friday 13., or not? > > Yes, it was shown right at the beginning of the show. The video was made by > the MTV Partyzone Massive and was a sort of medley of loads of different > 808 video clips - very fast moving. I'm not sure if this will also be the > official video when Pacific'98 gets the commercial release. I interpreted Simone's comments as if ZTT wouldn't want to spend money on a new video themselves. BTW, I liked the audio mix. Is this gonna be released as well? Greetings Joerg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joerg Fitzner Subject: (ztt) AoN Sign Date: 19 Mar 1998 15:38:29 +0100 (MET) Finally, here's a first sign of the new Art Of Noise! A friend told me, that he saw Nick Warren (of Way Out West) stating "Art Of Noise: Dream In Colour [DAT]" in his DJ-playlist. Remember?! Almost one year ago he said in an interview that they would be remixing the new AoN single in summer - last year's that is... Wonder if he's related to James Warren (of the Korgis), whom Trevor Horn produced a single for, ages ago. Yours Joerg P.S.: Also wonder if he's referring to the AoN original or already their WoW remix. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joerg Fitzner Subject: (ztt) New Shane MacGowan Single (?) Date: 19 Mar 1998 15:40:29 +0100 (MET) Hi! I've been told ZTT released another single from Shane MacGowan & The Popes' latest album the other week: "Paddy Rolling Stone". Greetings Joerg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joerg Fitzner Subject: (ztt) New Hoodlum Priest CD Date: 19 Mar 1998 15:41:42 +0100 (MET) A few weeks ago a new Hoodlum Priest CD has come out in the UK. It features songs from the last two singles plus four more tracks. Here goes, discog-style: * Hoodlum Priest: Hoodlum Priest CD: 1998 UK (Iris Light: i-LIGHT007CD) 3:58 Can You Feel This 6:09 Naked Time 10:54 You Know Who I Am 4:31 No Fear 4:05 Slow And Low [Late Fade] 5:12 Cas 6:18 Addicts 12:16 Slow & Low (Technietzsche Remix) ["We Walk The Earth"] If you liked the songs from the last singles (which were released about two years ago already), you'll also like this whole album. Regards Joerg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Guy B Phipps" Subject: Re: (ztt) New ZTT Site..... Date: 19 Mar 1998 19:38:42 -0800 Thanks to Soeren's suggestion, the new URL for ZTT 'remembered' is http://listen.to/ztt -----Original Message----- Hi Great page. I hope it'll develope in the future. Maybe the Warner years should be included too some time. I'm a huge 808 head myself. The URL is a bit heavy BTW. You can get: listen.to/ztt very easily. Check out: v3.come.to enjoy ...... +AHwAfA- +ACMAfA- +AHwAIw- +ACMAfABAAHw- +ACM- +AHwAQAAjAHwAfABA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHw- +AHwAfA- +AHwAQA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHwAfA- +AHwAfA- +ACMAfA- +AHwAIw- +ACMAfABAAHw- +ACM- +AHwAQAAjAHwAfABA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHw- +AHwAfA- +AHwAQA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHwAfA- +AHwAfA- +ACMAfA- +AHwAIw- +ACMAfABAAHw- +ACM- +AHwAQAAjAHwAfABA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHw- +AHwAfA- +AHwAQA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHwAfA- +AHwAfA- +ACMAfA- +AHwAIw- +ACMAfABAAHw- +ACM- +AHwAQAAjAHwAfABA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHw- +AHwAfA- +AHwAQA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHwAfA- +AHwAfA- +ACMAfA- +AHwAIw- +ACMAfABAAHw- +ACM- +AHwAQAAjAHwAfABA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHw- +AHwAfA- +AHwAQA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHwAfA- +AHwAfA- +ACMAfA- +AHwAfA- +AHw- +AHw- +AHwAfA- sorenl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Peel Subject: Re: (ztt) New ZTT Site..... Date: 20 Mar 1998 08:24:13 +0000 >> The initial pages are now going up for my new ZTT site - ZTT 'remembered' > >BTW, I've got loads of ZTT ads from melody Maker/NME/Record >Mirror/The Face (mostly photocopies, I'm afraid). We've finally got a >public scanner here at school, so I can scan them (or at least some >of them...) if you want me to. Wasn't there someone else on the list that had already started compiling a site of ZTT ads? If so it might be good to send your scans there too.. If anyone can remind me where this site is, I have dug out some ore recent ZTT ads - Sexus, Frames etc. but also some special one-offs for 808's Don Solaris album and singles... Ian Peel --- ---- > read.me in: 4D - THE TIMES' WEB MAGAZINE (www.4-d.co.uk)... ON MAGAZINE (www.state51.co.uk/on/ianpeel.html)... ROUGH GUIDES (www.roughguides.com/rock/index.html)... and MY BOOK - FUTURE VISIONS (www.compbook.co.uk/promo/netguides/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Coen van de Geest Subject: (ztt) Anne Dudley Date: 24 Mar 1998 11:57:21 +0100 Hurray hurray!!! Anne Dudley has won an Oscar !!! Greetz Coen ------------------------------------------------- () () () () () - | Coen v/d Geest JE/\N /\/\IC|-|EL J/\RRE { }{ }{ }{ }{ } | | E-mail: gees3324@exact.nl collector UU UU UU UU UU | ------------------------------------------------- II II II II II - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dveith@jmct.com (Doug Veith) Subject: (ztt) Re: ztt-digest V2 #27 Date: 24 Mar 1998 10:34:40 -0500 Man, that ZTT "remembered" site is great......does anybody know if they ever did poster size prints of the ads? I would pay BIG (well you know) bucks for a large color print of one of those ads. They rock me like a hurricaine. d. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 808boy <808boy@cracl.demon.co.uk> Subject: (ztt) anne goes to hollywood... Date: 24 Mar 1998 10:34:03 GMT am i the only one who noticed that Anne Dudley won an Oscar for best music (The Full Monty) yesterday...? l8r. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (ztt) anne goes to hollywood... Date: 24 Mar 1998 09:20:41 -0700 (MST) > am i the only one who noticed that Anne Dudley won an Oscar for best music > (The Full Monty) yesterday...? You are not. She looked swell! -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david richards Subject: (ztt) The '80s Rule! (Oscars, that is) Date: 24 Mar 1998 11:53:37 -0500 Nice to see that people from the '80s. a supposedely talent -free decade, are finally being recognized for their work! Not only was Anne Dudley a winner, but Danny Elfman (Ongio Boingo) was up for two oscars! One for "Good WIll Hunting" and one for "Men In Black." -Dave Richards Editor Lexicon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (ztt) Off-Topic: AON, ZTT Date: 24 Mar 1998 12:36:09 -0600 Forgive me if I'm sketchy on details, but Trevor Horn and some version of the Art of Noise are in the studio now (I think in Los Angeles?) working on *new material*. I'm fairly certain that JJ and Anne are on board; not sure about Gary. If I'm not mistaken, ZTT's web site (I'm not sure whether it's just www.ztt.com or not) has more information. JJ has also released a couple of albums I think under the name Art of Silence. Don't know about the sound or quality. I'm sure I'm not the only one on this list also on the ZTT list. If anyone else can fill in the blanks I've left, jump right in! JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cloud.cuckooland@virgin.net Subject: (ztt) and the winner is! Date: 24 Mar 1998 19:03:52 +0000 yay anne dudley!!!!! oscar winner and new album out soon:) this is her year! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (ztt) Off-Topic: AON, ZTT Date: 24 Mar 1998 13:57:24 -0600 Oops. I meant to post this to the Orb list, where people were wondering out loud in the wake of Anne's Oscar win what AON were up to... Sorry all. JG -----Original Message----- From: John Goelzer [SMTP:johng@engberganderson.com] Subject: (ztt) Off-Topic: AON, ZTT Forgive me if I'm sketchy on details, but Trevor Horn and some version of the Art of Noise are in the studio now (I think in Los Angeles?) working on *new material*. I'm fairly certain that JJ and Anne are on board; not sure about Gary. If I'm not mistaken, ZTT's web site (I'm not sure whether it's just www.ztt.com or not) has more information. JJ has also released a couple of albums I think under the name Art of Silence. Don't know about the sound or quality. I'm sure I'm not the only one on this list also on the ZTT list. If anyone else can fill in the blanks I've left, jump right in! JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joerg Fitzner Subject: (ztt) New Shane MacGowan Single (!) Date: 26 Mar 1998 14:37:46 +0100 (MET) Hello! My previous posting regarding a new Shane single wasn't exactly right. It's actually "Rock 'n' Roll Paddy" (not "Paddy Rolling Stone") which has been released: * Shane MacGowan and The Popes: Rock 'n' Roll Paddy CD: 1998 UK (ZTT: MACG003CD) 3:28 Rock 'n' Roll Paddy 3:36 She Moves Through The Fair This might look like a very 'lean' single (R&R Paddy even being the album version). But IMHO it's really worth buying, since the b-side is nearly exactly the opposite of what you'd excpect from this traditional song and from Shane MacGowan. Having an ultimately cool distorted guitar an a truly bombastic snare arrangement, this even reminds me a bit of Simple Minds' "Belfast Child". More news: The cover-inlay doesn't only point to "www.ztt.com" but also to a Shane website: "http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~laurence/macgowan.html"! (Something for your listing, Lazlo.) Last not least, there's a freepost feedback card supplied with the CD, which promises info on the following ZTT artists: "Adamski, Art Of Noise, Heights Of Abraham, Lee Griffiths, The Frames, Shane MacGowan and 808 State" Joerg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 808boy@cracl.demon.co.uk (808boy) Subject: (ztt) 808:98 Date: 26 Mar 1998 10:42:54 GMT morning all - i should have posted this a couple of days ago, but my ISP has been messing me around... :-< anyway...i picked up a white-label test press of the 'new' 808state single, namely Cubik '98/Pacific '98 a few days ago. no info AT ALL, so i'm basing my guesses on info from Markus' official 808 site at www.808state.com - go and visit! ;-) here's my thoughts on first hearings of the new mixes. side a, track 1: this sounds like the 'live mix' to me, as it has a flavour of the old 808state versus... stuff. more like 808 vs 808. quite a bit of scratching and lots of long vocal samples, including the main one which goes; 'How are all you paratroopers out there? And the marines?' and sounds like James Brown to me... anyway, the track doesn't have a great deal of the original left in it (at least for the first half), but it sounds pretty good. the new bass line reminds me of a track called 'Jingo' from the late 1980s, if any of you remember it. good stuff, and sounds pretty good on my new surround sound system! ;-) side a, track 2: i'm assuming that this is an 808remix. this bears more resemblance to the original, but with a pretty uptempo snare drum rhythm through it. lots of wacky notes chucked in here and there, and i suppose you could call this an acid-ish mix. nice one. side 2, track 1: cubik, original mix. nuff said, as i think you MAY have heard it before. ;-) side 2, track 2: a 'pacific' remix. the original track starts off as you would expect, and then adds a housey 120-125 bpm drum pattern over the top. eventually an acid-style keyboard riff kicks in, followed by some jazzy clarinet (GM, i assume). i'm sure that this isn't the Grooverider mix, as there isn't a trace of a jungle rhythm. maybe it's on another promo... more info, as and when i get it... l8r. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 808boy <808boy@cracl.demon.co.uk> Subject: (ztt) Re: 808:98 Date: 27 Mar 1998 16:15:58 GMT Smiley writes: > i picked up a white-label test press of the 'new' 808state single, namely > Cubik '98/Pacific '98 a few days ago. no info AT ALL, so i'm basing my > guesses on info from Markus' official 808 site at www.808state.com - go and > visit! ;-) > side a, track 1: > this sounds like the 'live mix' to me, as it has a flavour of the old 808state > versus... stuff. more like 808 vs 808. it's actually the 'Monkey Mafia' remix, i have found out. > side a, track 2: > i'm assuming that this is an 808remix. yep - it's the 808state 1998 remix. > side 2, track 1: > cubik, original mix. > side 2, track 2: > a 'pacific' remix. actually an edit of Pacific 808:98, and pretty disappointing, too. btw, Laz, the cat no is ZTT 98 TPX. l8rs. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richie Hopson Subject: Re: (ztt) Re: 808:98 Date: 27 Mar 1998 17:47:54 +0100 I've heard the groover mix (grooverider) of 808 and it certainly has plenty of drums and lots of bass in it! I also noticed today that ztt have now got some info on the new 808 material on their web site. roger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joerg Fitzner Subject: (ztt) click@ztt Date: 27 Mar 1998 19:46:53 +0100 (MET) Hey, all go an visit www.ztt.com! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Guy B Phipps" Subject: (ztt) ZTT adverts @ ZTT 'remembered' Date: 28 Mar 1998 21:54:05 -0800 My ZTT adverts pages are now up at ZTT 'remembered' http://listen.to/ztt If anybody has an ads that are not shown and wish to send me a .jpg of them, I will attempt to get them up within 24 hrs. Your name will appear as a credit on the 'mystery page' , which is through the mystery door ! (move your cursor around on the menu bar !!!!!) Enjoy, Guy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tearsforfears@juno.com (Gabe M LeBlanc) Subject: (ztt) FGTH Music Videos... Date: 29 Mar 1998 20:36:00 -0600 -Hey everyone, I have a favor to ask anyone who'd be willing to help... I've NEVER seen a FGTH video other than the concert version of "Relax" that they played on VH-1 during 8 days of 80's. I was wondering if there was someone out there that would be willing to make me a tape with some FGTH music videos. I've asked this before, but the thing is I got responses from people in other countries and the video format is much different than the one here in the U.S. We use NTSC. I do very much appreciate all those who did respond to my last request... Thank you! I'd also love to see the original "Relax" video. I hope this isn't too much to ask. I've got something to trade ya if you'd be willing to make a video collection for me. Thanks so much in advance and don't forget to relax... -Gabe :) Check Me Out On-Line: http://members.tripod.com/~TearsForFears/index.htm Send ALL File Attachments To: Tears4Fears@usa.net "And Fear Is Such A Vicious Thing, It Wraps Me Up In Chains..." -R.O. 1985 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Ryan Taylor) Subject: (ztt) Video Mix Date: 29 Mar 1998 21:50:22 -0500 Sorry about the crossposting..but I figured a few(maybe more) people from each list would be interested in what I've done: I've taken all the interviews and/or videos I've recorded over the years and put what I wanted to save on one tape...Here's what's on it(in order): Orbital: Halcyon, The Saint(2nd version I believe..the one w/ the 9 different screens), The Box Meat Beat Manifesto: Helter Skelter '97, Interview on 120 Minutes("120 Minutes of Nothing), Asbestos Lead Asbestos Orb: Perpetual Dawn Electronic: Interview of Marr and Sumner on 120 Minutes, Forbidden City, Disapointed Pet Shop Boys: West End Girls New Order: World Electronic: Feel Every Beat New Order: Regret Electronic: Getting Away With It Pet Shop Boys: Opportunities FSOL: We Have Explosive Orb: Asylum Coldcut: More Beats & Pieces Moby: James Bond Theme, Interview on 120 Minutes(1st time), That's When I Reach For My Revolver Pop Will Eat Itself: Interview of Clint on 120 Minutes("120 Minutes of Nothing"), Ich Bin Ein Auslander Public Enemy: Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos, Bring The Noise(w/ Anthrax) A few words..I don't exactly have the best editing tools..so there are mistakes here and there..but every video is there(in all their entirety, almost)..Since I did get some videos from Amp..some of the videos of their weird mix/spin on it. Anyways..if anyone wants a dub of this..I'll be glad to make them(sorry though..you'll get the whole thing..I don't have time to take out bits and pieces for people)..I'm just asking for a few dollars(to cover getting blank tapes and s/h)...Also..if anyone sees videos not here but have them in their possesion(for example, Moby's "Go" or the first version of "The Saint")..I'd be glad if I could get them :)..No copyrighted material though..I'm still debating whether I want to put the MBM videos from the Black Box Video Comp on a tape...Anyways..email me privately..and we'll get this thing going...Thanks. BTW, another tape is in the process..the EBN video remix of Coldcut's "Timber" was on Amp recently..I want to save that. Lastly, if anyone has questions..don't be afraid to ask :). Ryan np: 1st cd of Wasted(The Best of Volume, part 1) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor ICQ#: 1607223 rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "Duhhh, don't do that! And stop with the wispery hissing, you sound like a Brian Eno record." -Pearl Forester to Observer =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info ztt" in the message. # Postings must go to ztt@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # ZTT discography available at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?ztt